I agree with Julia the census serves many purposes and the more clues left for future generations who begin their family research the better. I care more about that and full birth date is important. Kaye Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 01:01:43 To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 5, Issue 26 Today's Topics: 1. Re: 1890,1930 & 2010 Census (Donna Hanlon) 2. Re: two cents from a former census taker (Bob McAlister) 3. Re: two cents from a former census taker (Grace Ashley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:27:18 -0600 From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census To: LCT list <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <SNT139-w45287A6C3748FA35B8F291C73B0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You can see the sample census form on line. It even asks for your phone number. Wants to know if you own, mortgage or rent. Most of the questions are in line with what was on previous older census. I fail to see what the exact phone number has to do with anything. Just ask whether or not a phone is in the home, like they did a radio in 1930. They want full birthdate for head of household. Not sure how all the questions have to do with redistricting. > From: anneokle@sptc.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:02:34 -0600 > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census > > Then they should only ask one question and that being how many occupants in > the home. > Grace > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Julia Molitz" <jmolitz@cox.net> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 12:59 PM > To: "TNLINCOL" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [TNLINCOL] 1890,1930 & 2010 Census > > > List members, > > > > Let us not forget what the census is for. It is not for genealogy or > > knowing how many TV's or bathrooms one has. It is to determine the > > district lines for Congressmen to represent that district or how many > > Congressmen a state must have. There are districts that change in 10 > > years. There may be more or less people living in an individual district > > therefore lines may be redrawn. Or there may be more or less people in a > > state, so the state may lose or gain a Congressman. By not answering the > > 2010 census could throw off the count and one may not wish for their > > district to be incorporated with another or lose a Congressman. > > > > This is the reason I believe that the 2010 census should be kept on micro > > film. It would be a paper trail that would show if fraud was used to over > > count or under count. Using the census for genealogy is like icing on a > > cake. A wonderful side benefit for us. > > > > Census records are released to the public ever 12 years. The 1930 census > > is complete & on line at several genealogy sites for a cost. The 1890 > > census is the one that is incomplete. The 1900 & 1910 census are damaged > > on some pages. > > > > The way to try to get the 2010 census on microfilm is to contact your > > Senator and Congressman using genealogy only as a side talking point. If > > you do not fill out the form & mail it in a census worker will come to > > your house. I am going to make a copy of my filled out & signed census > > form for a paper trail. I may be the only one :-( > > > > One thing may happen. The Mormon Church may step in to microfilm the > > census, if they can. If they pay to do so I am sure there will be more > > than one Congressman who will be happy to get in on that deal. > > > > Julia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:17:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bob McAlister <bob_mcalister@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] two cents from a former census taker To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CC8864D83E6BB2-17F8-5CD@angweb-usm003.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" what law requires participation? -----Original Message----- From: richerson52@comcast.net To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 4:41 pm Subject: [TNLINCOL] two cents from a former census taker As a 1980 door-to-door census taker,* let me urge everyone to fill in your own ensus and mail it in! That will save our government (us) the money that would therwise have to be paid to census takers, who will go to an address up to hree times! Participation is required by law. lder censuses did not have forms to mail in; information was collected by oor-to-door enumerators. On the very old forms I think we are seeing the actual ollected info. If the list is alphabetical, then of course no. magine: . miles between houses out in the country. The enumerator arrives and only a 2-yr-old boy is at home. Ask him or come back? That's why I question ANY old erson's age if it ends in a zero or 5---sounds like estimating. .. given dental care in the old days (many people toothless from middle age on), iteracy, and accents, the enumerator spelled names as best as he could. Our arrons became Barnes..... .. same for birthplaces. I doubt that my children could correctly give the irthplaces of their grandparents. ensuses are essential for accurate representation in Congress and local overnment. As genealogy tools, they are a wonderful.......clue!!! Not a uaranteed fact. (As a census-taker, I faced menacing dogs, strange entryways with snakeskins n the floor, and a "hypnotist" who wanted me as his "assistant"! Mail in your ensus!!!) hyllis ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:14:43 -0600 From: "Grace Ashley" <anneokle@sptc.net> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] two cents from a former census taker To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5CE0914E7AC84CA4A82D7C6139FCF429@Grace> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original write me direct and I will send a youtube video that is very informative. Grace -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob McAlister" <bob_mcalister@compuserve.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:17 PM To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] two cents from a former census taker > what law requires participation? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: richerson52@comcast.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 4:41 pm > Subject: [TNLINCOL] two cents from a former census taker > > > As a 1980 door-to-door census taker,* let me urge everyone to fill in your > own > ensus and mail it in! That will save our government (us) the money that > would > therwise have to be paid to census takers, who will go to an address up to > hree times! Participation is required by law. > > lder censuses did not have forms to mail in; information was collected by > oor-to-door enumerators. On the very old forms I think we are seeing the > actual > ollected info. If the list is alphabetical, then of course no. > > magine: > . miles between houses out in the country. The enumerator arrives and only > a > 2-yr-old boy is at home. Ask him or come back? That's why I question ANY > old > erson's age if it ends in a zero or 5---sounds like estimating. > > . given dental care in the old days (many people toothless from middle age > on), > iteracy, and accents, the enumerator spelled names as best as he could. > Our > arrons became Barnes..... > > . same for birthplaces. I doubt that my children could correctly give the > irthplaces of their grandparents. > > ensuses are essential for accurate representation in Congress and local > overnment. As genealogy tools, they are a wonderful.......clue!!! Not a > uaranteed fact. > > (As a census-taker, I faced menacing dogs, strange entryways with > snakeskins > n the floor, and a "hypnotist" who wanted me as his "assistant"! Mail in > your > ensus!!!) > > hyllis > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to TNLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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