Today's Topics: 1. Using Goats to clear a Cemetery (pattee@charter.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 8:15:48 -0500 From: <pattee@charter.net> Subject: [TNSEVIER] Using Goats to clear a Cemetery To: TNSEVIER-L@rootsweb.com, tnsevier@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20091220081548.FPQYM.931453.root@mp08> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We all know what back breaking work it is to clean an old cemetery, this is a wonderful idea. The goats can even be put on a chain [like a dog] in case there is no fence. Boy I wish I would of thought of this when our old family cemetery was in desperate need of cleaning. Patti Using Goats to clear a Cemetery Four sturdy goats are doing their part to uncover up to 30 grave sites at the Ballard Family Cemetery in Henderson County, North Carolina. The brambles and underbrush were so thick it was hard to see anything, much less walk around. The free labor is supplied by goats on loan from Henderson County Magistrate Sandra Laughter. It's hard to tell what's here until we clean it out," says Toby Linville, the county staff member for the Henderson County Cemetery Advisory Committee.... At 09:56 PM 10/3/2009, you wrote: >Today's Topics: > > 1. DNA question (Donna Hanlon) > 2. Re: DNA question (Bob McAlister) > 3. Re: DNA question (randy stewart) > 4. Re: DNA question (Sam Jobe) > 5. Re: DNA question (Marleen Van Horne) > 6. Re: DNA question (Donnie F. Porter) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 18:00:31 -0500 >From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> >Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: Lincoln ct TN List <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <BLU109-W11A18A83144CC00F96417C7D10@phx.gbl> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of >males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first >known Swaner born 1790's. > > > >I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is >also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > >Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back >to 1840 AL. > > > >All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain >(no females break the line). > > > >My question is, since there are so many companies offering this >research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is >most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for >the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. > > > >Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:57:18 -0400 >From: Bob McAlister <bob_mcalister@compuserve.com> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <8CC129C5F94CF4C-1194-23@angweb-usm013.sysops.aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >I have joined the McAlister Project on Family Tree DNA website. I >checked their website and there is a Swaner >project.(https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Swaner?) > You may have to log onto: http://www.familytreedna.com and >navigate to the correct page. If you work through the >"administrator" from the project, you can get a break on the price. > > > >Bob Mc > > > >In God We Trust > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> >To: Lincoln ct TN List <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:00 pm >Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > > > >I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of >males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first >known Swaner >born 1790's. > > > >I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a >direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > >Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back >to 1840 AL. > > > >All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain >(no females >break the line). > > > >My question is, since there are so many companies offering this >research, who is >the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and >easy to read? >I am also interested in checking for the Native American strain in >both Beavers >and Swaner lines. > > > >Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/ > 177141665/direct/01/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:38:17 -0700 (PDT) >From: randy stewart <hiplainsdrifter4229@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <381008.63604.qm@web52702.mail.re2.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > >--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> >Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:00 PM > > > >I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of >males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first >known Swaner born 1790's. > > > >I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is >also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > >Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back >to 1840 AL. > > > >All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain >(no females break the line). > > > >My question is, since there are so many companies offering this >research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is >most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for >the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. > > > >Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon >??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? >???? I agree with the other reader about FamilyTreeDNA. They are >probably the oldest and most used program of this type. You might do >well to check out their website. I am going to use them in the next >few months myself to do a YDNA37 mtDNAplus?level check with male and >female lines. I think it is $299 to do it.? A12 chromosomal test >isn't enough really to help you, and statistically I there?very >little?more that you can find with a 67 chromosome test that you can >with a 37. The 67 costs $399.There are 5,600 family?surname >projects?listed with FamilyTreeDNA. >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 19:52:19 -0500 >From: "Sam Jobe" <SamsRoots@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <004a01ca448c$ed5807c0$c8081740$@Net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >You might want to compare the Ancestry.com/DNA program. It is cheaper and >has joined the group >To standardize the results. >Good Luck, >Sam > > >-----Original Message----- >From: tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of randy stewart >Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:38 PM >To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > > >--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> >Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:00 PM > > > >I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of >males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known >Swaner born 1790's. > > > >I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a >direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > >Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to 1840 >AL. > > > >All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no >females break the line). > > > >My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, >who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and >easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American >strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. > > > >Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon >??? ???????? ?????? ??? ? >???? I agree with the other reader about FamilyTreeDNA. They are probably >the oldest and most used program of this type. You might do well to check >out their website. I am going to use them in the next few months myself to >do a YDNA37 mtDNAplus?level check with male and female lines. I think it is >$299 to do it.? A12 chromosomal test isn't enough really to help you, and >statistically I there?very little?more that you can find with a 67 >chromosome test that you can with a 37. The 67 costs $399.There are 5,600 >family?surname projects?listed with FamilyTreeDNA. >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. >http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:50:46 -0700 >From: Marleen Van Horne <msvnhrn@jps.net> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4AC7FF76.4030704@jps.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >Don't get too excited about Ancestry.com joining the standardization >group, Family Tree DNA has been working with the NIST for some time, it >is not just a matter of standardizing the marker names and values, there >are all the SNPs that need to be standardized to. > >Ancestry is definately cheaper, but there is alot more to genetic >testing for genealogical purposes, than the price, and Ancestry looses >in all other categories in my opinion. > >Marleen Van Horne > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 21:56:20 -0500 >From: "Donnie F. Porter" <scotsman@cafes.net> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question >To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <C77BF7C792674EDA88B01E60312CA17E@PorterPC> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Donna, > > > >My money (literally) is on FamilyTreeDNA..... > > > >In three years of yDNA comparison, even with Oxford University - the home of >Bryan Sykes, the "father" of this stuff - FamilyTreeDNA wins hands down in >my book. It's a bit more expensive but, in the quality and the utility of >the product, they stand head and shoulders above other genetic test >facilities. In my comparisons and explorations with people who have used >other facilities, (just ME now) their process and product seems >"rinky-dink." I'm not saying it isn't legitimate, I'm just saying there are >sometimes "issues" because each company is trying to establish something >that is unique about their testing which might, at some point, give them an >advantage in garnering more of the market share. Good for them - maybe not >so good for the consumer. > > > >PLUS - if you go on FTDNA's website and join a surname project BEFORE you >buy the test, you get an appreciable discount on the prices by purchasing >your test from the project website. AND - don't forget - around the >holidays, etc, they do run special sale prices on testing. > > > >I started out with a 37 marker yDNA test with FamilyTree, that was about >three years ago this last month. The thing about a 37 marker test is that if >there is a match and the person matching you has done a 67 marker test, you >IMMEDIATELY start to wonder just how close the match would be if YOU had the >67 marker test too! > > > >That's what happened to me exactly. I had a genetic distance of 2 with my >match and I couldn't rest until I got the upgrade to 67 markers. What I >learned from that upgrade was that, out of the additional 30 markers, we >only had 1 more marker that had mutated - at 67 markers we had a genetic >distance of 3......that's important when you start trying to connect common >ancestors generationally. > > > >Please listen to everyone who gives you input on who does the best job. I'm >sure you can see that I am well won over by FTDNA, but don't let that be >your sole guiding light - some folks like Fords, some Chevrolets, but some >folks like Buicks and Cadillacs. So listen to it all, weigh what you hear, >and make your best selection. It's a lot of money for most of us and you >don't want to regret your choice after that kind of outlay. > > > >Good luck! > >Donnie > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Donna Hanlon" <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> >To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 PM >Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > > > > > I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of > > males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known > > Swaner born 1790's. > > > > > > > > I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also > > a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > > > > > > Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to > > 1840 AL. > > > > > > > > All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no > > females break the line). > > > > > > > > My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, > > who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and > > easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American > > strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. > > > > > > > > Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. 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Sherry, What a great idea. Goats are used here in California to eat down the vegetation on steep hillsides. Fire hazards you know. Julia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry Finchum" <finchums@usinternet.com> To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: [TNLINCOL] Goats clear cemetery > Today's Topics: > > 1. Using Goats to clear a Cemetery (pattee@charter.net) > >