I think they are beginning to do DNA testing.....and many feel it includes besides what you mentioned - Spanish, Turk, etc. Until more testing is done, I guess it could include just about anything..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Durrett" <jmdurrett@charter.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > The term Melegun is referred to for the following Native Americans who > married African Americans and Native Americans that married White people or > Native American who married African American. > > Walter Plecker of Virginia used this term to describe the people above. He > was the first vital records clerk of Virginia. > > Walter Plecker made a list of surnames he considered to be Melugeons. > If you want to know about Melugeon's here are a few links. > > http://www.multiracial.com/letters/plecker2.html > > http://www.multiracial.com/letters/moore.html This link he mentions TN and > letter Mr. Plecker wrote to the Secretary of State of TN > > Read and judge for yourself. > > My RAMSEY and WARE surnames are on his list. Which means they married either > an African American or a Native American not sure which. My WARE and RAMSEY > are from VA. > > Joy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michaele Swiderski" <msbs05@comcast.net> > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:41 PM > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > Joy, > > > > I think our Warrens may have had a little Cherokee. According to research > > being done on the illness, it has been found to be passed through lines of > > Cherokee families. The researcher has a theory they may have interbred > > with > > the Spanish when they first came over and the illness was passed through > > them. Many Spanish explorers were Sephardic converts to Christianity and > > came over to this country. The study looked at Applachia families because > > there is a higher rate of the illness there than elsewhere in the country. > > They researched the genealogy and found no Jews, but did find every family > > had Cherokee. Daniel Warren came from NC where there were still plenty of > > Cherokees in his day. I have seen it stated several places that he may > > have > > just worn the Warren name. I keep wondering if perhaps he had Cherokee in > > his line somewhere and that is the source. My Grandmother on the other > > side > > of my family was Cherokee, so there is no mystery on that side. Her mother > > was 3/4 and my aunts and uncles have Indian cards. The illness has to be > > on > > both sides and I can find no link on my LCT side. The Warrens are my best > > guess since you also have the illness. I think genetic illness can provide > > interesting genealogical clues to our past and are as valid as DNA to be > > discussed on the site. > > > > Michaele > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <joy0420@charter.net> > > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:28 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > > >> According to research I've done into Familial Mediterranean Fever, it is > > carried thru Armenians, Turks, and non-Ashkenazi Jews (Sephardic). The > > Sephardic Jews were driven out of their region centuries ago, many > > migrating > > thru Germany, etc. Allegedly, the "Black Dutch", as many families called > > themselves, derived this name from the German Black Forest...could these > > people have given up their religion b/c of persecution. It wouldn't be the > > first time. > >> I have 1 Warren cousin who was genetically tested for this - so could it > > be? > >> George, this is a bit "off subject" in a sense, but family history is not > > just about dates and names. > >> Any input out there? Joy > >> > > >> > From: Jmolitz@aol.com > >> > Date: 2005/01/17 Mon PM 11:10:26 GMT > >> > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > >> > Subject: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > >> > > >> > As I recall reading the book "Blood & Whiskey" The Life and Times of > > Jack > >> > Daniel by Peter Krass, I believe Mr. Krass wrote about a Jewish family > > that > >> > either lived in what became Moore CO or did business in the area. I > > will have to > >> > look it up and get back with you but you will not like what he wrote. > > It seems > >> > this "business person" had a house of ill repute. > >> > > >> > Julia > >> > > >> > > >> > In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:46:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > >> > joy0420@charter.net writes: > >> > > >> > << > >> > > Historically speaking, like over a hundred years ago and more...were > > there > >> > > any Jewish families in Lincoln/Moore/Coffee/Giles county? Both sides > > of my > >> > > father's family were from this area. At whatever time in history was > > there > >> > > was some Jewish heritage in Lincoln Co.? According to the DNA with > >> > > Geneology.com. (that my 89 year old father participated in) there > >> > was > > some > >> > > Jewish heritage in our family. I hope this does not open the can of > >> > "worms" > >> > > that my inquiry about Native American history in Lincoln County > > caused a > >> > > few years ago. > >> > > Sincerely, > >> > > Carmen McDaniel Forbes > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > >> > Register your first lines in LCT: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > >> Register your first lines in LCT: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > >> > >> ============================== > >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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