Well John, I have spoken several times to state archeologist, Nick Fielder,and he believes that we simply need stricter laws. When I have spoken to those in the legislation, they are supportive, but there is just no one to be much of an advocate. I believe that our local historical and genealogical societies should petition their state affiliates to take some action, but just haven't found exactly the right ear to bend on this matter! As long as the current bill has been there, I'm just not sure how many folks really do care. -Sherry At 09:04 PM 10/26/2006 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cemetery Laws (john v. burns) > 2. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > 3. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:59:47 -0400 >From: "john v. burns" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Cemetery Laws >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I am sure that is true, Sherry. But can you offer an easier solution? How >many times you suppose a person will be denied access to a family burial >ground? On the other hand, the land-owner will have legal fees he will have >to pay. Actions such as this gets public attention as well. Once the word >gets around I am sure gaining access to great-grand-mas grave will get >easier. > >John >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Charles O. Schull" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:55 AM >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Cemetery Laws > > >>> I certainly understand about rude people who are trespassing. >>> Genealogist >>> from my experience are very cautious about entering property that belongs >>> to another. >>> >>> I have had the fortunate experience when I have visited my ancestors >>> gravesites in Lincoln, Moore, and Marshall. I have been able to do so. >>> >>> I do have ancestors who are buried in Marshall County in a family >>> graveyard >>> that has had all of the field stones bull-dozed to one end of the field, >>> then corn planted on the same area. Another cousin and myself have >>> requested to go on the land and to re-erect the fieldstones and return it >>> to it's rightful cemetery, but have been denied that request by the >>> current >>> landowner. This is a documented cemetery which appears in all of the >>> cemetery books. There is no law because we cannot find a document from >>> land transactions that set this aside as a family cemetery that will >>> allow >>> us to do so. >>> >>> Below is a current bill that will help to strengthen the cemetery law >>> that >>> is now on the books. Please write to your legislative representatives >>> and >>> ask them to support it when it comes back to the floor. >>> >>> http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB2454.pdf >>> >>> Information on this page is generally current to within an hour. >>> >>> *HB2454 by *Jones S, *Shepard. (SB2551 by *Henry.) >>> >>> Cemeteries - Grants access to private cemeteries to certain persons for >>> the >>> purpose of tending to graves or genealogical research. - Amends TCA Title >>> 46. >>> >>> Fiscal Summary for *HB2454 / SB2551 >>> >>> Increase Local Govt. Expenditures - Not Significant >>> >>> Bill Summary for *HB2454 / SB2551 >>> >>> This bill would prohibit persons from going to cemeteries or graves that >>> are located on private property unless the person has first notified the >>> property owner, occupant, or both, and unless the person is coming onto >>> the >>> property to visit a grave site, maintain the grave site or cemetery, bury >>> human remains, or conduct genealogical research. >>> >>> The landowner would be allowed to designate a particular access route to >>> the graves or cemetery if no obvious route is visible. Those persons >>> accessing the property would be liable to the landowner for any damage >>> occurring from their access and would be expected to refrain from causing >>> damage to the property. >>> >>> Any eligible person denied reasonable access to graves or a cemetery >>> located on private property could seek injunctive relief from the >>> chancery >>> court of the county in which the cemetery or graves are located. >>> >>> >>> >>> Herein lies the problem still, if the denial is made, it becomes the >>> responsibility of the person who wants access to file a petition to the >>> courts to allow this. I'm sure that the court costs are not going to be >>> paid by the landowner! >>> >>> -Sherry >>> Jesus is my rock! >>> >>> If you would like to know him also, visit: >>> http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps.html >>> >>> Visit my webpage! >>> http://www.sorrellsgenealogy.com >>> >>> Middle TN Cousins visit: >>> http://www.chestnutridgecousins.org >>> >>> Our hobby: >>> http://www.indiancreekproductions.com >>> >>> Searching East TN families: >>> ALEXANDER,ANDERSON,BRADBURN,BROOKS,BUIE,CLARK,CLAIBORNE, >>> COLEMAN,CRONDAS,DICKSON,ELLEDGE,EVANS,FARMER,HODGE/S, >>> INGLE,JAMES,LINN,LORD,McGHOILL,McINTIRE,McLEAN,MORECROFT, >>> PAINE/PAYNE,RANDLES,RHODES,SANDRIDGE,TEAGUE,and THURMAN >>> >>> Searching Middle TN families: >>> ALEXANDER,ALLEN,ANDERSON,BLALOCK,BOURLAND,BRENTS,BROWNE, >>> BURNES,CLAYTON,CONNALY,CONWELL,CORDING,COX,CREIGHTON, >>> CRITTENDEN,DAVIDSON,DAWSON,DEAL,FREEMAN,GALLAGHER, >>> GILBERT,GLIDEWELL,GRAHAM,HARRELL,HAWKINS,HAYES,HILL, >>> HOLLAND,KING,LAMBERT,LANDIN,LISTON,MARSH,MAXWELL, >>> McADAMS,McCANDLESS,McKNITT,McWHORTER,MEALER,MILLINGTON, >>> NASH,REDD,REESE,ROBERTS,RUSSELL,RYALLS,SCOTT,SIMPSON, >>> SMITH,SORRELL/S,TOLLY,TRENT,WAGSTER,WALLACE, >>> WHITE,WHITLOW,WHITSETT,and WILSON >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> HI MARK & SHERRY, >> >> You give good advice to be considerate to the land owner. Some land >> owners can get a tad cranky just over accusations. My Lincoln Co SHULL >> Family Cemetery is a good example. I live so far away that it is like >> trying >> to communicate with the Mars explorer so I have to rely on a few local >> folks >> in LCT. As I was informed, the land owner bulldozed the wrought iron >> fence, >> monuments and what ever markers were there and built a barn over it. The >> Lincoln Co Sheriff came out and stopped the contractor doing the work but >> proceeded to have a heart attack later and died. I called the sheriff >> detective and she said she didn't know if all the work had been stopped >> because they heard no more complaints and did not revisit the sight. >> >> I asked some other folks to take a look from the road and the landowner >> called me long distance and accused me of harassing him. I assured him I >> was >> not and only wanted to know the condition of my family cemetery. He sent >> photos of the SHULL monument and some other stones in a plot with some >> small >> trees. The monument had a gouge in that the cat driver hit with his blade >> but things look normal to me except the iron fence is gone. So you see it >> can be a touchy situation even from afar so it's best inquire friendly >> like >> from the landowner to visit your cemetery. Hope the House Bills clear up >> some things. >> >> Sherry, >> You research TEAGUE and TOLLY, can you send me some of what you have? >> Send >> to me personally. >> >> Regards, >> Charlie >> >> -- >> Charles & Beverly Schull >> 1953 Yolanda St. >> Springfield, OR 97477 >> >> Phone: 541-746-4097 >> E-mail: [email protected] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.8/489 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 >> >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:42:10 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Cindy & Ginny, > >The correct Robert L. Bedwell is the one b. 19 Jan 1884 TN, d. 29 March 1974 > in Garden Grove, Orange Co, CA. I have been unable to locate him in the >1900 census. Mary Ruth Bedwell & Marjorie Bedwell are the children of Ora >Mildred Harris. The other three belong to Annie Lee Parker. Robert Lee Bedwell is >the son of Marion Jacob Bedwell b. 6 August 1848 in LCT; d. 29 April 1887; m. >Sarah (Sally) P. Duncan on 12 November 1872 in LCT. Marion Jacob Bedwell is >the son of John Burton Bedwell and Pheraby Ann Ray. > >Sally Maud Bedwell daughter of Marion Jacob and Sarah P. Duncan b. on 30 May >1880 in Houston County, Tennessee, not Houston, Texas; d. 1934 in Katie >Garvin County, Oklahoma; m. Willis G. Cottrell in Limestone County, Alabama on 4 >July 1895. Willis was the son of Elias Lawrence "Lucky" Cottrell and Matilda >Moody. Willis Cottrell, Elias Lawrence Cottrell, and Sally Maud Bedwell >Cottrell are all buried in the Katie Cemetery in Katie, Garvin County, Oklahoma. > >Unfortunately, much of the information on Ancestry.com is in error. Major M. >Bedwell was born about 1802 in North Carolina not LCT. There is no evidence >that he was ever married to Mary K. Long. The correct wife is Mary (Polly) K. >White, identified in her mother Lucinda White's will as the wife of Major >Bedwell. Mary White Bedwell d. 12 January 1880 in Moore County, Tennessee at the > home of her daughter Elizabeth Bedwell Crane. According to one obituary, >she was 86 when she died, but another one states that she was 80. She had seven >known children. Per her obituary, she outlived all but four of them. The >Bedwells in LCT appear to all descend from Major M. Bedwell and Mary K. White >through their son John Burton Bedwell and Pheraby Ann Ray. The following are >Major & Polly's children: > > 1. Rebecca Bedwell married Jesse Warren on 3 April 1843 in LCT. Rebecca >died before 1880. > > 2. John Burton Bedwell, b. 26 June 1826 in LCT; d. 29 April 1889 in >Cumberland City, Stewart County, Tennessee; m. 1st Pheraby Ann Ray (Rhea) on 19 >March 1845 in LCT; m. 2nd Sarah Ann Wells on 15 September 1859 in LCT. > 3. Eliza Bedwell b. abt. 1829 in LCT; died before 1880. Eliza is >probably a nickname, and she is likely the Louisa Jane Bedwell who married William >M. Thompson on 18 September 1851 in LCT > 4. Asbury Bedwell b. abt. 1830 in LCT; d. before 1870; m. Louisa J. >Davis on 4 July 1854 in LCT. His wife & daughter were living with John Burton >Bedwell and Sarah Wells Bedwell in Montgomery County, Tennessee in 1870. > 5. Willis L. Bedwell b. 25 December 1832 in LCT; d. 9 July 1891 in >Montgomery County, Tennessee; m. Sisley Ann Davis on 14 February 1853 in LCT. > 6. Elizabeth Bedwell b. 27 February 1840; d. 12 January 1880 in Moore >County, Tennessee; m. Timothy W. (T.W.) Crane on 18 October 1863 in LCT. She >died one day after her mother. (Tim Crane later married Martha Ellen Warren on >15 May 1881 in Moore County, Tennessee). > 7. Levan Andrew Jackson (LAJ) Bedwell b. 20 July 1841 in LCT; d. 4 >February 1920 in Friendship, Crockett County, Tennessee; m. 1st Mary Emaline >Stewart on 24 May 1861 in LCT; m. 2nd Mary Francis Spearman on 25 January 1872 in >LCT. LAJ Bedwell was a Methodist Circuit Rider. He did not raise his fifteen >children in LCT. >Sometime between 1841 and 1850, Major, Polly, their unmarried children and >mother Rebecca moved to Henderson County, Tennessee. They returned to LCT >before 1860. No doubt the move to Henderson County was precipitated by a dust up >over baptism involving immersion. Major was defrocked as a Methodist minister >in 1841. Among his accusers were William Springer, Francis Wells, Thomas >Wells and J.W. Spearman, families of two of his future daughters-in-law. > >Regarding Caleb Bedwell, since he was 20 years older than Rebecca McNatt, it >is probable that he was married twice. Rebecca was born in Delaware, not LCT. > I have never found a name for the possible first wife, however. Caleb and >Rebecca had two known sons. In addition to Major, there was a son John >Bedwell b. abt. 1805 in North Carolina not LCT. He also moved to Henderson County, >Tennessee between 1840 and 1850. John remained in Henderson County and died >sometime before 1870. Mother Rebecca stayed in Henderson County with John. > >Land records indicate that Caleb Bedwell was in LCT by 1809. His exact death >date is unknown, but land transactions indicate that he most likely died >between 24 June 1824 and 4 January 1827. > >Sonja > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:31:10 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Sonja, > I am especially interested in finding Robert Lee Bedwell in 1900....I >found his mother in Indian Territory with occ. of "farming in Tx", her g-dau >Annie was living with her, (she dau of Willie who died giving or right after >Annie's birth)...I cant find Willis Cottrell in 1900 either. I wish I could find >them in 1900. I found most all of Elias Cotrells family in Tx, then most went >to OK, which in 1900 was still Indian Territory. I have learned that Jesse >Warren had married a second time to a Nancy Sanders and they had 4 kids, the >youngest b. 1891, when Nancy died (giving birth) and Jesse m. a third time to >Sallie Duncan Bedwell. Sallie by 1900 had given the Warren kids up, and I have >found 3 of them in 1900 Tx, cant find one of them tho, and cant help but wonder >if the Warren kid (Jesse) and Robert Lee Bedwell are both living in the >household of Willis Cottrell. I have found some deeds in Limestone Co Al where Jesse >Warren had bought his lands from Elias Cotrell. Some descendants say that >Jesse Warren (Daniels son) died in Tx just right before 1900, anyone know if >that's correct? > >Cindy > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:04:10 EDT >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Cindy, > >Can't find Willis G. Cottrell or Robert Lee Bedwell in 1900. Supposedly >Elias Lawrence Cottrell was also in Hunt County, Texas in 1900, but haven't found >him yet. My guess would be that Willis & Sally Maud might be with him. >Also, it appears that Daniel Warren and Lucy Rose were also in Hunt County, TX in >1900. Hunting for Robert lee Bedwell in Hunt County, Texas is complicated by >the presence of the Mississippi branch of the Bedwells in the same county. > >Sonja > >HUNT COUNTY > >____________________________________ >Justice Precinct 1 SD 2 ED 120 >Page 20/57a # 338/339 >D.J. Cottrell May 1880 20 M AL F:AL M:AL >Callie Cottrell Sep 1882 17 F TN Wife F:TN M:GA >Will Frank Mar 1869 31 M TN Brother-in-Law F:TN M:TN >Nannie Frank May 1871 29 F TN Sister-in-Law F:TN M:GA >Hattie Frank Feb 1894 6 F TX Niece >Justice Precinct 2 SD 2 ED 125 >Page 3/61b # 48/48 >E.L. Cottrell May 1845 55 M TN F:TN M:TN >Tilda J. Cottrell Apr 1846 TX Wife F:AL M:TN >Stephen E. Cottrell Feb 1880 20 M TX Son >Myrtle Cottrell Feb 1885 15 F TX Dau >Page 3/61b # 50/50 >R.C. Cottrell Feb 1871 29 M AL F:TN M:TN >Adaline Cottrell Apr 1870 30 F AL Wife F:AL M:AL >Oscar Cottrell Nov 1893 6 M AL Son >Tillman Cottrell Mar 1895 5 M AL Son >Josie Cottrell Jan 1897 3 F TX Dau >Ludie Cottrell Feb 1898 2 M TX Son >Vera Cottrell Mar 1900 2/12m F TX Dau >Part of Justice Precinct No. 2 ED 126 >Page 10/200a # 329/344 >Robert Cottrell Nov 1868 31 M AL F:AL M:AL >Victoria Cottrell Nov 1869 30 F TN Wife F:TN M:GA >Ottie Cottrell Dec 1889 10 M TN Son >Attie Cottrell Sep 1891 8 M AL Son >Odus A. Cottrell Sep 1893 6 M AL Son >Liflie Cottrell Aug 1898 1 F TX Dau >John Warren Jun 1883 16 M TN Bro-in-Law F:TN M:GA > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 45 >*************************************** > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.14/502 - Release Date: 10/27/06 > > Jesus is my rock! 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