Maybe is they started bulldozing there ancestors to make room for a shopping mall, it mught strike home. Take a sharp pointy stick to get a politician's attention. >From: Mark & Sherry Finchum <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 45 >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 11:07:41 -0400 > >Well John, > >I have spoken several times to state archeologist, Nick Fielder,and he >believes that we simply need stricter laws. > >When I have spoken to those in the legislation, they are supportive, but >there is just no one to be much of an advocate. I believe that our local >historical and genealogical societies should petition their state >affiliates to take some action, but just haven't found exactly the right >ear to bend on this matter! > >As long as the current bill has been there, I'm just not sure how many >folks really do care. > >-Sherry > >At 09:04 PM 10/26/2006 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Cemetery Laws (john v. burns) > > 2. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > > 3. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > > 4. Re: Robert Lee Bedwell ([email protected]) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:59:47 -0400 > >From: "john v. burns" <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Cemetery Laws > >To: <[email protected]> > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > >I am sure that is true, Sherry. But can you offer an easier solution? How > >many times you suppose a person will be denied access to a family burial > >ground? On the other hand, the land-owner will have legal fees he will >have > >to pay. Actions such as this gets public attention as well. Once the word > >gets around I am sure gaining access to great-grand-mas grave will get > >easier. > > > >John > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Charles O. Schull" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:55 AM > >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Cemetery Laws > > > > > >>> I certainly understand about rude people who are trespassing. > >>> Genealogist > >>> from my experience are very cautious about entering property that >belongs > >>> to another. > >>> > >>> I have had the fortunate experience when I have visited my ancestors > >>> gravesites in Lincoln, Moore, and Marshall. I have been able to do >so. > >>> > >>> I do have ancestors who are buried in Marshall County in a family > >>> graveyard > >>> that has had all of the field stones bull-dozed to one end of the >field, > >>> then corn planted on the same area. Another cousin and myself have > >>> requested to go on the land and to re-erect the fieldstones and return >it > >>> to it's rightful cemetery, but have been denied that request by the > >>> current > >>> landowner. This is a documented cemetery which appears in all of the > >>> cemetery books. There is no law because we cannot find a document >from > >>> land transactions that set this aside as a family cemetery that will > >>> allow > >>> us to do so. > >>> > >>> Below is a current bill that will help to strengthen the cemetery law > >>> that > >>> is now on the books. Please write to your legislative representatives > >>> and > >>> ask them to support it when it comes back to the floor. > >>> > >>> http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills/currentga/BILL/HB2454.pdf > >>> > >>> Information on this page is generally current to within an hour. > >>> > >>> *HB2454 by *Jones S, *Shepard. (SB2551 by *Henry.) > >>> > >>> Cemeteries - Grants access to private cemeteries to certain persons >for > >>> the > >>> purpose of tending to graves or genealogical research. - Amends TCA >Title > >>> 46. > >>> > >>> Fiscal Summary for *HB2454 / SB2551 > >>> > >>> Increase Local Govt. Expenditures - Not Significant > >>> > >>> Bill Summary for *HB2454 / SB2551 > >>> > >>> This bill would prohibit persons from going to cemeteries or graves >that > >>> are located on private property unless the person has first notified >the > >>> property owner, occupant, or both, and unless the person is coming >onto > >>> the > >>> property to visit a grave site, maintain the grave site or cemetery, >bury > >>> human remains, or conduct genealogical research. > >>> > >>> The landowner would be allowed to designate a particular access route >to > >>> the graves or cemetery if no obvious route is visible. Those persons > >>> accessing the property would be liable to the landowner for any damage > >>> occurring from their access and would be expected to refrain from >causing > >>> damage to the property. > >>> > >>> Any eligible person denied reasonable access to graves or a cemetery > >>> located on private property could seek injunctive relief from the > >>> chancery > >>> court of the county in which the cemetery or graves are located. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Herein lies the problem still, if the denial is made, it becomes the > >>> responsibility of the person who wants access to file a petition to >the > >>> courts to allow this. I'm sure that the court costs are not going to >be > >>> paid by the landowner! > >>> > >>> -Sherry > >>> Jesus is my rock! > >>> > >>> If you would like to know him also, visit: > >>> http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps.html > >>> > >>> Visit my webpage! > >>> http://www.sorrellsgenealogy.com > >>> > >>> Middle TN Cousins visit: > >>> http://www.chestnutridgecousins.org > >>> > >>> Our hobby: > >>> http://www.indiancreekproductions.com > >>> > >>> Searching East TN families: > >>> ALEXANDER,ANDERSON,BRADBURN,BROOKS,BUIE,CLARK,CLAIBORNE, > >>> COLEMAN,CRONDAS,DICKSON,ELLEDGE,EVANS,FARMER,HODGE/S, > >>> INGLE,JAMES,LINN,LORD,McGHOILL,McINTIRE,McLEAN,MORECROFT, > >>> PAINE/PAYNE,RANDLES,RHODES,SANDRIDGE,TEAGUE,and THURMAN > >>> > >>> Searching Middle TN families: > >>> ALEXANDER,ALLEN,ANDERSON,BLALOCK,BOURLAND,BRENTS,BROWNE, > >>> BURNES,CLAYTON,CONNALY,CONWELL,CORDING,COX,CREIGHTON, > >>> CRITTENDEN,DAVIDSON,DAWSON,DEAL,FREEMAN,GALLAGHER, > >>> GILBERT,GLIDEWELL,GRAHAM,HARRELL,HAWKINS,HAYES,HILL, > >>> HOLLAND,KING,LAMBERT,LANDIN,LISTON,MARSH,MAXWELL, > >>> McADAMS,McCANDLESS,McKNITT,McWHORTER,MEALER,MILLINGTON, > >>> NASH,REDD,REESE,ROBERTS,RUSSELL,RYALLS,SCOTT,SIMPSON, > >>> SMITH,SORRELL/S,TOLLY,TRENT,WAGSTER,WALLACE, > >>> WHITE,WHITLOW,WHITSETT,and WILSON > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes > >>> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> HI MARK & SHERRY, > >> > >> You give good advice to be considerate to the land owner. Some land > >> owners can get a tad cranky just over accusations. My Lincoln Co SHULL > >> Family Cemetery is a good example. I live so far away that it is like > >> trying > >> to communicate with the Mars explorer so I have to rely on a few local > >> folks > >> in LCT. As I was informed, the land owner bulldozed the wrought iron > >> fence, > >> monuments and what ever markers were there and built a barn over it. >The > >> Lincoln Co Sheriff came out and stopped the contractor doing the work >but > >> proceeded to have a heart attack later and died. I called the sheriff > >> detective and she said she didn't know if all the work had been stopped > >> because they heard no more complaints and did not revisit the sight. > >> > >> I asked some other folks to take a look from the road and the >landowner > >> called me long distance and accused me of harassing him. I assured him >I > >> was > >> not and only wanted to know the condition of my family cemetery. He >sent > >> photos of the SHULL monument and some other stones in a plot with some > >> small > >> trees. The monument had a gouge in that the cat driver hit with his >blade > >> but things look normal to me except the iron fence is gone. So you see >it > >> can be a touchy situation even from afar so it's best inquire friendly > >> like > >> from the landowner to visit your cemetery. Hope the House Bills clear >up > >> some things. > >> > >> Sherry, > >> You research TEAGUE and TOLLY, can you send me some of what you have? > >> Send > >> to me personally. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Charlie > >> > >> -- > >> Charles & Beverly Schull > >> 1953 Yolanda St. > >> Springfield, OR 97477 > >> > >> Phone: 541-746-4097 > >> E-mail: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.8/489 - Release Date: >10/20/2006 > >> > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 2 > >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:42:10 EDT > >From: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Cindy & Ginny, > > > >The correct Robert L. Bedwell is the one b. 19 Jan 1884 TN, d. 29 March >1974 > > in Garden Grove, Orange Co, CA. I have been unable to locate him in the > >1900 census. Mary Ruth Bedwell & Marjorie Bedwell are the children of >Ora > >Mildred Harris. The other three belong to Annie Lee Parker. Robert Lee >Bedwell is > >the son of Marion Jacob Bedwell b. 6 August 1848 in LCT; d. 29 April >1887; m. > >Sarah (Sally) P. Duncan on 12 November 1872 in LCT. Marion Jacob Bedwell >is > >the son of John Burton Bedwell and Pheraby Ann Ray. > > > >Sally Maud Bedwell daughter of Marion Jacob and Sarah P. Duncan b. on 30 >May > >1880 in Houston County, Tennessee, not Houston, Texas; d. 1934 in Katie > >Garvin County, Oklahoma; m. Willis G. Cottrell in Limestone County, >Alabama on 4 > >July 1895. Willis was the son of Elias Lawrence "Lucky" Cottrell and >Matilda > >Moody. Willis Cottrell, Elias Lawrence Cottrell, and Sally Maud Bedwell > >Cottrell are all buried in the Katie Cemetery in Katie, Garvin County, >Oklahoma. > > > >Unfortunately, much of the information on Ancestry.com is in error. Major >M. > >Bedwell was born about 1802 in North Carolina not LCT. There is no >evidence > >that he was ever married to Mary K. Long. The correct wife is Mary >(Polly) >K. > >White, identified in her mother Lucinda White's will as the wife of Major > >Bedwell. Mary White Bedwell d. 12 January 1880 in Moore County, Tennessee >at the > > home of her daughter Elizabeth Bedwell Crane. According to one obituary, > >she was 86 when she died, but another one states that she was 80. She >had >seven > >known children. Per her obituary, she outlived all but four of them. The > >Bedwells in LCT appear to all descend from Major M. Bedwell and Mary K. >White > >through their son John Burton Bedwell and Pheraby Ann Ray. The following >are > >Major & Polly's children: > > > > 1. Rebecca Bedwell married Jesse Warren on 3 April 1843 in LCT. >Rebecca > >died before 1880. > > > > 2. John Burton Bedwell, b. 26 June 1826 in LCT; d. 29 April 1889 in > >Cumberland City, Stewart County, Tennessee; m. 1st Pheraby Ann Ray >(Rhea) >on 19 > >March 1845 in LCT; m. 2nd Sarah Ann Wells on 15 September 1859 in LCT. > > 3. Eliza Bedwell b. abt. 1829 in LCT; died before 1880. Eliza is > >probably a nickname, and she is likely the Louisa Jane Bedwell who >married William > >M. Thompson on 18 September 1851 in LCT > > 4. Asbury Bedwell b. abt. 1830 in LCT; d. before 1870; m. Louisa J. > >Davis on 4 July 1854 in LCT. His wife & daughter were living with John >Burton > >Bedwell and Sarah Wells Bedwell in Montgomery County, Tennessee in 1870. > > 5. Willis L. Bedwell b. 25 December 1832 in LCT; d. 9 July 1891 in > >Montgomery County, Tennessee; m. Sisley Ann Davis on 14 February 1853 in >LCT. > > 6. Elizabeth Bedwell b. 27 February 1840; d. 12 January 1880 in >Moore > >County, Tennessee; m. Timothy W. (T.W.) Crane on 18 October 1863 in LCT. >She > >died one day after her mother. (Tim Crane later married Martha Ellen >Warren on > >15 May 1881 in Moore County, Tennessee). > > 7. Levan Andrew Jackson (LAJ) Bedwell b. 20 July 1841 in LCT; d. 4 > >February 1920 in Friendship, Crockett County, Tennessee; m. 1st Mary >Emaline > >Stewart on 24 May 1861 in LCT; m. 2nd Mary Francis Spearman on 25 January >1872 in > >LCT. LAJ Bedwell was a Methodist Circuit Rider. He did not raise his >fifteen > >children in LCT. > >Sometime between 1841 and 1850, Major, Polly, their unmarried children >and > >mother Rebecca moved to Henderson County, Tennessee. They returned to LCT > >before 1860. No doubt the move to Henderson County was precipitated by a >dust up > >over baptism involving immersion. Major was defrocked as a Methodist >minister > >in 1841. Among his accusers were William Springer, Francis Wells, Thomas > >Wells and J.W. Spearman, families of two of his future daughters-in-law. > > > >Regarding Caleb Bedwell, since he was 20 years older than Rebecca McNatt, >it > >is probable that he was married twice. Rebecca was born in Delaware, not >LCT. > > I have never found a name for the possible first wife, however. Caleb >and > >Rebecca had two known sons. In addition to Major, there was a son John > >Bedwell b. abt. 1805 in North Carolina not LCT. He also moved to >Henderson > County, > >Tennessee between 1840 and 1850. John remained in Henderson County and >died > >sometime before 1870. Mother Rebecca stayed in Henderson County with >John. > > > >Land records indicate that Caleb Bedwell was in LCT by 1809. His exact >death > >date is unknown, but land transactions indicate that he most likely died > >between 24 June 1824 and 4 January 1827. > > > >Sonja > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 3 > >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:31:10 EDT > >From: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Sonja, > > I am especially interested in finding Robert Lee Bedwell in >1900....I > >found his mother in Indian Territory with occ. of "farming in Tx", her >g-dau > >Annie was living with her, (she dau of Willie who died giving or right >after > >Annie's birth)...I cant find Willis Cottrell in 1900 either. I wish I >could find > >them in 1900. I found most all of Elias Cotrells family in Tx, then most >went > >to OK, which in 1900 was still Indian Territory. I have learned that >Jesse > >Warren had married a second time to a Nancy Sanders and they had 4 kids, >the > >youngest b. 1891, when Nancy died (giving birth) and Jesse m. a third >time >to > >Sallie Duncan Bedwell. Sallie by 1900 had given the Warren kids up, and I >have > >found 3 of them in 1900 Tx, cant find one of them tho, and cant help but >wonder > >if the Warren kid (Jesse) and Robert Lee Bedwell are both living in the > >household of Willis Cottrell. I have found some deeds in Limestone Co Al >where Jesse > >Warren had bought his lands from Elias Cotrell. Some descendants say that > >Jesse Warren (Daniels son) died in Tx just right before 1900, anyone know >if > >that's correct? > > > >Cindy > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >Message: 4 > >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:04:10 EDT > >From: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Robert Lee Bedwell > >To: [email protected] > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Cindy, > > > >Can't find Willis G. Cottrell or Robert Lee Bedwell in 1900. Supposedly > >Elias Lawrence Cottrell was also in Hunt County, Texas in 1900, but >haven't found > >him yet. My guess would be that Willis & Sally Maud might be with him. > >Also, it appears that Daniel Warren and Lucy Rose were also in Hunt >County, TX in > >1900. Hunting for Robert lee Bedwell in Hunt County, Texas is >complicated >by > >the presence of the Mississippi branch of the Bedwells in the same >county. > > > >Sonja > > > >HUNT COUNTY > > > >____________________________________ > >Justice Precinct 1 SD 2 ED 120 > >Page 20/57a # 338/339 > >D.J. Cottrell May 1880 20 M AL F:AL M:AL > >Callie Cottrell Sep 1882 17 F TN Wife F:TN M:GA > >Will Frank Mar 1869 31 M TN Brother-in-Law F:TN M:TN > >Nannie Frank May 1871 29 F TN Sister-in-Law F:TN M:GA > >Hattie Frank Feb 1894 6 F TX Niece > >Justice Precinct 2 SD 2 ED 125 > >Page 3/61b # 48/48 > >E.L. Cottrell May 1845 55 M TN F:TN M:TN > >Tilda J. Cottrell Apr 1846 TX Wife F:AL M:TN > >Stephen E. Cottrell Feb 1880 20 M TX Son > >Myrtle Cottrell Feb 1885 15 F TX Dau > >Page 3/61b # 50/50 > >R.C. Cottrell Feb 1871 29 M AL F:TN M:TN > >Adaline Cottrell Apr 1870 30 F AL Wife F:AL M:AL > >Oscar Cottrell Nov 1893 6 M AL Son > >Tillman Cottrell Mar 1895 5 M AL Son > >Josie Cottrell Jan 1897 3 F TX Dau > >Ludie Cottrell Feb 1898 2 M TX Son > >Vera Cottrell Mar 1900 2/12m F TX Dau > >Part of Justice Precinct No. 2 ED 126 > >Page 10/200a # 329/344 > >Robert Cottrell Nov 1868 31 M AL F:AL M:AL > >Victoria Cottrell Nov 1869 30 F TN Wife F:TN M:GA > >Ottie Cottrell Dec 1889 10 M TN Son > >Attie Cottrell Sep 1891 8 M AL Son > >Odus A. Cottrell Sep 1893 6 M AL Son > >Liflie Cottrell Aug 1898 1 F TX Dau > >John Warren Jun 1883 16 M TN Bro-in-Law F:TN M:GA > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to > >[email protected] > > > >To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to >[email protected] > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] > >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >body >of the > >email with no additional text. > > > > > >End of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 45 > >*************************************** > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.14/502 - Release Date: 10/27/06 > > > > >Jesus is my rock! > >If you would like to know him also, visit: >http://www.godssimpleplan.org/gsps.html > >Visit my webpage! >http://www.sorrellsgenealogy.com > >Middle TN Cousins visit: >http://www.chestnutridgecousins.org > >Our hobby: >http://www.indiancreekproductions.com > >Searching East TN families: >ALEXANDER,ANDERSON,BRADBURN,BROOKS,BUIE,CLARK,CLAIBORNE, >COLEMAN,CRONDAS,DICKSON,ELLEDGE,EVANS,FARMER,HODGE/S, >INGLE,JAMES,LINN,LORD,McGHOILL,McINTIRE,McLEAN,MORECROFT, >PAINE/PAYNE,RANDLES,RHODES,SANDRIDGE,TEAGUE,and THURMAN > >Searching Middle TN families: >ALEXANDER,ALLEN,ANDERSON,BLALOCK,BOURLAND,BRENTS,BROWNE, >BURNES,CLAYTON,CONNALY,CONWELL,CORDING,COX,CREIGHTON, >CRITTENDEN,DAVIDSON,DAWSON,DEAL,FREEMAN,GALLAGHER, >GILBERT,GLIDEWELL,GRAHAM,HARRELL,HAWKINS,HAYES,HILL, >HOLLAND,KING,LAMBERT,LANDIN,LISTON,MARSH,MAXWELL, >McADAMS,McCANDLESS,McKNITT,McWHORTER,MEALER,MILLINGTON, >NASH,REDD,REESE,ROBERTS,RUSSELL,RYALLS,SCOTT,SIMPSON, >SMITH,SORRELL/S,TOLLY,TRENT,WAGSTER,WALLACE, >WHITE,WHITLOW,WHITSETT,and WILSON > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us