Thanks Randy. This pretty much echoes Nita's that there is little advantage of going to the next level. I knew you all would know the best routes to take. > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 06:41:43 -0700 > From: hiplainsdrifter4229@yahoo.com > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA testing > > > > --- On Sun, 10/4/09, n5bry@aol.com <n5bry@aol.com> wrote: > > > From: n5bry@aol.com <n5bry@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA testing > To: tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:51 AM > > > For those who are considering surname DNA testing. > > I would suggest that you use FTDNA for your testing.? There are quite a few testing companies but they don't test on the same markers.? FTDNA has the largest data base to check against. > > Testing with another company may cause you to miss a match or seem to be so mis-matched that you discard a true connection. > > Case in point.? My cousin tested for our Taylor surname project.? We were contacted by a person whose cousin tested with another company.? Based on court house records she was certain we were closely related but the marker comparison was so far off, there were serious doubts.? I suggested her cousin retest with FTDNA and he matched very well with only 1 marker off as opposed to he original 7 markers off, confirming the close relationship even though our common ancestor was about 250 years back. > > We have been contacted by some who tested with other companies who were certain we were a match.? When comparing apples with apples, they would never match us.? Other companies don't check the same markers, making it very difficult to confirm a lineage. > > Test with FTDNA.? You will have lots of interesting DNA freebie information included plus an opportunity to convert your markers to Y-search where people from other testing companies can also post their markers for comparisons and? you may find an unknown connection there. > > FTDNA usually sponsors really good sale prices on the testing around Christmas.? Also, at least for a start, testing to 37 markers is sufficient to get you the information you need.? We have upgraded several of our different surname donors and testing to 67 markers did not improve our matches. > > My best advice - test to 37 markers with FTDNA.? That will give you the most important information. > > Good luck. > > Nita > > DNA chatters, > I appreciate to hear everyone's input. On FTDNA at one time there was a sort of informational bell curve of the information derived from 12, 25? 37, and 67 marker tests, and there is a large informational advantage for the consumer going up to 37, but the difference in likelihood of a match was only about 5 percent more from 37 to 67, meaning that at 37, if you were identical it was a 90 percent probability of you being related at 5 generations and at 67 it only went up to 95% probability of a match. The informational gain from 37 to 67 nearly flatlines. I have seen this mentioned in the past. This is why I am not so sold on the purchase of a 67 marker test. Just my two cents. I am opened minded for corrections from anyone though. Have a good Sunday!! > Randy > --------------------------- > ---- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/

For those who are considering surname DNA testing. I would suggest that you use FTDNA for your testing.? There are quite a few testing companies but they don't test on the same markers.? FTDNA has the largest data base to check against. Testing with another company may cause you to miss a match or seem to be so mis-matched that you discard a true connection. Case in point.? My cousin tested for our Taylor surname project.? We were contacted by a person whose cousin tested with another company.? Based on court house records she was certain we were closely related but the marker comparison was so far off, there were serious doubts.? I suggested her cousin retest with FTDNA and he matched very well with only 1 marker off as opposed to he original 7 markers off, confirming the close relationship even though our common ancestor was about 250 years back. We have been contacted by some who tested with other companies who were certain we were a match.? When comparing apples with apples, they would never match us.? Other companies don't check the same markers, making it very difficult to confirm a lineage. Test with FTDNA.? You will have lots of interesting DNA freebie information included plus an opportunity to convert your markers to Y-search where people from other testing companies can also post their markers for comparisons and? you may find an unknown connection there. FTDNA usually sponsors really good sale prices on the testing around Christmas.? Also, at least for a start, testing to 37 markers is sufficient to get you the information you need.? We have upgraded several of our different surname donors and testing to 67 markers did not improve our matches. My best advice - test to 37 markers with FTDNA.? That will give you the most important information. Good luck. Nita

Thank you so much. There are so many companies out there, it is very confusing. Now, FTDNA is Family Tree DNA? I had herad there were many levels of markers on up to over a hundred and that Native American was a whole different test. Thank you for your help. Donna > To: tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 08:51:59 -0400 > From: n5bry@aol.com > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA testing > > For those who are considering surname DNA testing. > > I would suggest that you use FTDNA for your testing.? There are quite a few testing companies but they don't test on the same markers.? FTDNA has the largest data base to check against. > > Testing with another company may cause you to miss a match or seem to be so mis-matched that you discard a true connection. > > Case in point.? My cousin tested for our Taylor surname project.? We were contacted by a person whose cousin tested with another company.? Based on court house records she was certain we were closely related but the marker comparison was so far off, there were serious doubts.? I suggested her cousin retest with FTDNA and he matched very well with only 1 marker off as opposed to he original 7 markers off, confirming the close relationship even though our common ancestor was about 250 years back. > > We have been contacted by some who tested with other companies who were certain we were a match.? When comparing apples with apples, they would never match us.? Other companies don't check the same markers, making it very difficult to confirm a lineage. > > Test with FTDNA.? You will have lots of interesting DNA freebie information included plus an opportunity to convert your markers to Y-search where people from other testing companies can also post their markers for comparisons and? you may find an unknown connection there. > > FTDNA usually sponsors really good sale prices on the testing around Christmas.? Also, at least for a start, testing to 37 markers is sufficient to get you the information you need.? We have upgraded several of our different surname donors and testing to 67 markers did not improve our matches. > > My best advice - test to 37 markers with FTDNA.? That will give you the most important information. > > Good luck. > > Nita > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/

--- On Sun, 10/4/09, n5bry@aol.com <n5bry@aol.com> wrote: From: n5bry@aol.com <n5bry@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA testing To: tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:51 AM For those who are considering surname DNA testing. I would suggest that you use FTDNA for your testing.? There are quite a few testing companies but they don't test on the same markers.? FTDNA has the largest data base to check against. Testing with another company may cause you to miss a match or seem to be so mis-matched that you discard a true connection. Case in point.? My cousin tested for our Taylor surname project.? We were contacted by a person whose cousin tested with another company.? Based on court house records she was certain we were closely related but the marker comparison was so far off, there were serious doubts.? I suggested her cousin retest with FTDNA and he matched very well with only 1 marker off as opposed to he original 7 markers off, confirming the close relationship even though our common ancestor was about 250 years back. We have been contacted by some who tested with other companies who were certain we were a match.? When comparing apples with apples, they would never match us.? Other companies don't check the same markers, making it very difficult to confirm a lineage. Test with FTDNA.? You will have lots of interesting DNA freebie information included plus an opportunity to convert your markers to Y-search where people from other testing companies can also post their markers for comparisons and? you may find an unknown connection there. FTDNA usually sponsors really good sale prices on the testing around Christmas.? Also, at least for a start, testing to 37 markers is sufficient to get you the information you need.? We have upgraded several of our different surname donors and testing to 67 markers did not improve our matches. My best advice - test to 37 markers with FTDNA.? That will give you the most important information. Good luck. Nita DNA chatters,     I  appreciate to hear everyone's input. On FTDNA at one time there was a sort of informational bell curve of the information derived from 12, 25? 37, and 67 marker tests, and there is a large informational advantage for the consumer going up to 37, but the difference in likelihood of a match was only about 5 percent more from 37 to 67, meaning that at 37, if you were identical it was a 90 percent probability of you being related at 5 generations and at  67 it only went up to 95% probability of a match. The informational gain from 37 to 67 nearly flatlines. I have seen this mentioned in the past. This is why I am not so sold on the purchase of a 67 marker test. Just my two cents. I am opened minded for corrections from anyone though. Have a good Sunday!!                                                                                   Randy  --------------------------- ---- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna, My money (literally) is on FamilyTreeDNA..... In three years of yDNA comparison, even with Oxford University - the home of Bryan Sykes, the "father" of this stuff - FamilyTreeDNA wins hands down in my book. It's a bit more expensive but, in the quality and the utility of the product, they stand head and shoulders above other genetic test facilities. In my comparisons and explorations with people who have used other facilities, (just ME now) their process and product seems "rinky-dink." I'm not saying it isn't legitimate, I'm just saying there are sometimes "issues" because each company is trying to establish something that is unique about their testing which might, at some point, give them an advantage in garnering more of the market share. Good for them - maybe not so good for the consumer. PLUS - if you go on FTDNA's website and join a surname project BEFORE you buy the test, you get an appreciable discount on the prices by purchasing your test from the project website. AND - don't forget - around the holidays, etc, they do run special sale prices on testing. I started out with a 37 marker yDNA test with FamilyTree, that was about three years ago this last month. The thing about a 37 marker test is that if there is a match and the person matching you has done a 67 marker test, you IMMEDIATELY start to wonder just how close the match would be if YOU had the 67 marker test too! That's what happened to me exactly. I had a genetic distance of 2 with my match and I couldn't rest until I got the upgrade to 67 markers. What I learned from that upgrade was that, out of the additional 30 markers, we only had 1 more marker that had mutated - at 67 markers we had a genetic distance of 3......that's important when you start trying to connect common ancestors generationally. Please listen to everyone who gives you input on who does the best job. I'm sure you can see that I am well won over by FTDNA, but don't let that be your sole guiding light - some folks like Fords, some Chevrolets, but some folks like Buicks and Cadillacs. So listen to it all, weigh what you hear, and make your best selection. It's a lot of money for most of us and you don't want to regret your choice after that kind of outlay. Good luck! Donnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hanlon" <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 PM Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of > males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known > Swaner born 1790's. > > > > I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also > a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. > > > > Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to > 1840 AL. > > > > All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no > females break the line). > > > > My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, > who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and > easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American > strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. > > > > Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have joined the McAlister Project on Family Tree DNA website. I checked their website and there is a Swaner project.(https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Swaner?) You may have to log onto: http://www.familytreedna.com and navigate to the correct page. If you work through the "administrator" from the project, you can get a break on the price. Bob Mc In God We Trust -----Original Message----- From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> To: Lincoln ct TN List <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 7:00 pm Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known Swaner born 1790's. I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to 1840 AL. All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no females break the line). My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/ 177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might want to compare the Ancestry.com/DNA program. It is cheaper and has joined the group To standardize the results. Good Luck, Sam -----Original Message----- From: tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of randy stewart Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:38 PM To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:00 PM I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known Swaner born 1790's. I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to 1840 AL. All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no females break the line). My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon                                I agree with the other reader about FamilyTreeDNA. They are probably the oldest and most used program of this type. You might do well to check out their website. I am going to use them in the next few months myself to do a YDNA37 mtDNAplus level check with male and female lines. I think it is $299 to do it.  A12 chromosomal test isn't enough really to help you, and statistically I there very little more that you can find with a 67 chromosome test that you can with a 37. The 67 costs $399.There are 5,600 family surname projects listed with FamilyTreeDNA. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't get too excited about Ancestry.com joining the standardization group, Family Tree DNA has been working with the NIST for some time, it is not just a matter of standardizing the marker names and values, there are all the SNPs that need to be standardized to. Ancestry is definately cheaper, but there is alot more to genetic testing for genealogical purposes, than the price, and Ancestry looses in all other categories in my opinion. Marleen Van Horne

I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known Swaner born 1790's. I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to 1840 AL. All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no females break the line). My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/

--- On Sat, 10/3/09, Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> Subject: [TNLINCOL] DNA question To: "Lincoln ct TN List" <tnlincol-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:00 PM I would like to check my Swaner DNA. I have located a direct line of males(father to son) from my generation directly back to our first known Swaner born 1790's. I have also found a Swanner line supposedly linked with ours that is also a direct male line back to its first known ancestor born 1850 LCT. Also have found the direct Y line for my Beavers family dating back to 1840 AL. All these would be a straight back male link or Y chromosome strain (no females break the line). My question is, since there are so many companies offering this research, who is the best and most affordably priced? AND who is most reliable and easy to read? I am also interested in checking for the Native American strain in both Beavers and Swaner lines. Your opinion matters very much to me. Thank you. Donna Hanlon                                I agree with the other reader about FamilyTreeDNA. They are probably the oldest and most used program of this type. You might do well to check out their website. I am going to use them in the next few months myself to do a YDNA37 mtDNAplus level check with male and female lines. I think it is $299 to do it.  A12 chromosomal test isn't enough really to help you, and statistically I there very little more that you can find with a 67 chromosome test that you can with a 37. The 67 costs $399.There are 5,600 family surname projects listed with FamilyTreeDNA. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One thing to consider is to have a couple of pictures scanned and put what information you know on www.Deadfred.com.  It's free, and it's a site that is truly just for abandoned photos.  Perhaps someone will find it and get back in touch with you. --- On Thu, 10/1/09, tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com <tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com <tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 140 To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:02 AM Today's Topics:    1. Re: picture album (Brenda Campos) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:29:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Brenda Campos <nanacampos5@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] picture album To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <927764.98943.qm@web46004.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think its wonderful that your trying to find some one who can claim these pictures I love pictures also and have found several in thrift stores. Its so hard to even think that any one would give up a photo of any one Good luck Brenda C --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Jim and Ruby <jmrbythms@united.net> wrote: From: Jim and Ruby <jmrbythms@united.net> Subject: [TNLINCOL] picture album To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 9:31 PM Family Picture Albums mean so much to me, old ones and new ones.? At the Goodwill Store in Lewisburg, I found and bought a Family Album that I just can not imagine that was donated unless by mistake.? The only identifications are the following:? One the inside cover is written:? ''REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN WE.....? TO CHRISTA? HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM COREY".? It appears to be pictures of a mother and three young children, beautiful furniture, white baby grand piano, marble top tables, dalmation dog, vacation pictures and Christmas pictures.? The only dates are: One vacation looking picture is dated 7-30-94 and another is dated from the photo processor? Jan 4-93.? The house number is 8103.? The house seems to be in a sub-division.? One is of the back yard during a big snow. If you have any idea who this album belongs to please email me at jmrbythms@united.net Thank you. Ruby Thomas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to TNLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 140 ****************************************

I think its wonderful that your trying to find some one who can claim these pictures I love pictures also and have found several in thrift stores. Its so hard to even think that any one would give up a photo of any one Good luck Brenda C --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Jim and Ruby <jmrbythms@united.net> wrote: From: Jim and Ruby <jmrbythms@united.net> Subject: [TNLINCOL] picture album To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 9:31 PM Family Picture Albums mean so much to me, old ones and new ones.  At the Goodwill Store in Lewisburg, I found and bought a Family Album that I just can not imagine that was donated unless by mistake.  The only identifications are the following:  One the inside cover is written:  ''REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN WE.....  TO CHRISTA  HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM COREY".  It appears to be pictures of a mother and three young children, beautiful furniture, white baby grand piano, marble top tables, dalmation dog, vacation pictures and Christmas pictures.  The only dates are: One vacation looking picture is dated 7-30-94 and another is dated from the photo processor  Jan 4-93.  The house number is 8103.  The house seems to be in a sub-division.  One is of the back yard during a big snow. If you have any idea who this album belongs to please email me at jmrbythms@united.net Thank you. Ruby Thomas ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Sorry to say there probably was no mistake. My step sister sold all the family pictures of her family when she had her Dad put in a nursing facilty (he really needed to go). But she cleaned out the house and had a auction company come in and liquidate everything which included 5 boxes (large) of family pictures. She ended up with lots of money because of the antiques in the house but all memories were gone. To look at it from her side she had some really unhappy times that she was trying to put behind her but I really wished that she had given me the opportunity to salvage the personal pictures. To each his own I guess is how the saying goes. Some of us wish to keep the past alive and some of us ( not on the list) wish to see it go away. Ernest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim and Ruby" <jmrbythms@united.net> To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: [TNLINCOL] picture album > Family Picture Albums mean so much to me, old ones and new ones. At the > Goodwill Store in Lewisburg, I found and bought a Family Album that I just > can not imagine that was donated unless by mistake. The only > identifications are the following: One the inside cover is written: > ''REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN WE..... TO CHRISTA HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM COREY". > It appears to be pictures of a mother and three young children, beautiful > furniture, white baby grand piano, marble top tables, dalmation dog, > vacation pictures and Christmas pictures. The only dates are: One > vacation looking picture is dated 7-30-94 and another is dated from the > photo processor Jan 4-93. The house number is 8103. The house seems to > be in a sub-division. One is of the back yard during a big snow. > If you have any idea who this album belongs to please email me at > jmrbythms@united.net > Thank you. > Ruby Thomas > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Family Picture Albums mean so much to me, old ones and new ones. At the Goodwill Store in Lewisburg, I found and bought a Family Album that I just can not imagine that was donated unless by mistake. The only identifications are the following: One the inside cover is written: ''REMEMBER THE TIMES WHEN WE..... TO CHRISTA HAPPY BIRTHDAY FROM COREY". It appears to be pictures of a mother and three young children, beautiful furniture, white baby grand piano, marble top tables, dalmation dog, vacation pictures and Christmas pictures. The only dates are: One vacation looking picture is dated 7-30-94 and another is dated from the photo processor Jan 4-93. The house number is 8103. The house seems to be in a sub-division. One is of the back yard during a big snow. If you have any idea who this album belongs to please email me at jmrbythms@united.net Thank you. Ruby Thomas

List Members, In the 1850 census of Bedford County,Tennessee, Joseph HASTINGS is living in the household of his (assumed) sister (Elizabeth) and brother in law John CONDER. They are in District 21, household numer 91. He is age 35 at the time. He is there with his children Robert, John, James and George by his first wife then deceased Cynthia NEELEY, prior to his marriage to Mary Ann BLACKWELL In the 1870 census of Bedford County, Tennessee, Sarah/Sally (HUDLOW) HASTINGS is living in the household of her (assumed) daughter Elizabeth (Bettie) J. CONDER and her husband John CONDER. Sarah was a widow at this time as her husband Henry F. HASTINGS had passed on. She is listed as being of the age 78 years. The census was taken in District 23, household number 31. Does anyone have anything that is more definitive of their relationships than what is displayed in these census? Thank you! Bobby Prosser prossergenealogy@comcast.net

List Members, I have always thought of the BLEDSOE family as an allied family of my many Middle Tennessee surnames  that I am descended from, but I am now thinking that I am a BLEDSOE family descendant. A few years ago Joanna Bledsoe came to our annual Chsetnut Ridge Cousin reunion and she shared with us about her BLEDSOE family. Joanna is now deceased. In looking at her research I focused on Jacob BLEDSOE (1762/64) born in Wake County North Carolina. Jacob is buried in the Moore's Chapel Cemetery in Southern Bedford County near the Lincoln County line. Jacob was a Revolutionary War Soldier. Joanna named four children of Jacob in her writings but she speculated there could have been as many as twelve. The four that she listed are Aaron born 1781 or 1787 in North Carolina, David born in 1799 in North Carolina, married a sister of his brother's wife. Henry born circa 1804 married Tempe ROBARDS. Lewis born in 1770-1780 married Fanny_______? My interest in research of this family is in Henry BLEDSOE that married Tempe ROBARDS. Prior to starting this post I researched back through the BLEDSOE Family GenForum post. There I found a post submitted by William H. Clifford, post 717 on the date of July 23, 2000. In this post he had Henry BLEDSOE born 1804 (same as Joanna) marrying Temperance ROBARDS 19 May 1825 in Orange County, North Carolina. He has Temperance born in the year 1799. On Ancestry.com I did an 1850 census search of BLEDSOE family in Bedford County. Tennessee In this search I found Temperance BLEDSAW (BLEDSOE) age 50, female born in North Carolina living in District 18, Bedford County, Tennessee. She is listed as the head of the household with others listed as as William P. BLEDSAW age 20, Annis BLEDSAW age 19, Jacob D. BLEDSAW age 18, John O. BLEDSAW age 15 and Louisa F. BLEDSAW age 13. My interest is in Louisa F. BLEDSAW (BLEDSOE). John Foster prior to his passing away had mentioned that he thought that Henry BLEDSOE and Tempe ROBARDS probably had a daughter Louisa F. born around 1837. This matches with the 1850 census. My question is, could this Louisa F. possibly be Frances BLEDSOE with the F. initial for Frances? My great grandmother was Tempy/Tempie/Tempe/ T. A. (Ann) MOORE that married John R. FOSTER. These are Foster Hollow - Foster Family of Northern Lincoln County. Tempy and John R. died while my grandmother was of a young age and a BURNS family took her in and raised her. From the 1860 census of Lincoln County, Tennessee the household of James MOORE is enumerated with James MOORE 39, Frances MOORE age 24 (making her birth year 1836/37) and Tempe MOORE age 3.  Among other things that I have found in research of this family is that J. H. MOORE and Frances MOORE are buried in Moore's Chapel Cemetery in graves that adjoin the rest of the Bledsoe family. Their tombstones read J. H. Moore Mar. 21, 1828 - May 22, 1893 & Frances Moore  Died Oct. 20, 1893 age 60 years ( a little variance from above) Certainly Tempy/Tempie/Tempe could be derived from Temperance. I f anyone is able to help clarify that Louisa F. BLEDSAW (BLEDSOE) is Frances BLEDSOE and  Frances MOORE are the same it would be appreciated. Another question, Is Temperance BLEDSAW (BLEDSOE) the widow of Henry  BLEDSOE that does not appear in the 1850 census? Thank you! Bobby Prosser prossergenealogy@comcast.net www.chestnutridgecousins.org

I am trying to find the location and any other information about two 19th century schools in Lincoln County: Hickory Hill School, near Chestnut Ridge, and Linwood School, on Norris Creek. (1) The March 8, 1894, issue of the Fayetteville Observer carried a news items from Chestnut Ridge that Miss Ezella Prosser would open school at Hickory Hill "near this place" (Chestnut Ridge). This position would apparently be Ezella's first time to teach. The school may possibly have been located on land given in March 1885 by M.A. and Louisa Jane Leftwich Prosser (my great-grandparents) to an unnamed school district. The Prosser farm was on Stoneboro Road, near Chestnut Ridge. Later that year the Prossers sold the farm to their daughter and son-in-law, May Etta Prosser Whitaker and John Jay Whitaker, with the school land specifically excluded from the sale. (2) An article in the December 3, 1885, Observer refers to speakers at Linwood School on Norris Creek. If anyone has information about either of these early schools, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks! Carolyn Whitaker Crowley

List Members, Does any list member know if there is anyone that is a descendant of John and Elizabeth (Hastings)  Conder and if they have researched this family? Children of John H. Conder and Nancy Elizabeth Hastings were (from a Hastings researcher) are: (a.) Joseph Ross Conder, b. 25 August 1884, d. 26 Dec. 1949, md. Gettie Davis, buried Old Orchard Cemetery. (b.) Alvie Thomas Conder, b. 15 May 1886, d. 15, July 1956, md. Lizzie Marsh, buried Old Orchard Cemetery (c.) George Conder, b. 1896, d. 1974, md. Minnie Lee Whitsett, buried Old Orchard Cemetery (d.) Emma Lana Conder, b. 11 Feb. 1898, md. Uliver Jefferson Tate, living in Albuquerque, New Mexico. (e.) James Edward Conder, b. 21 Aug. 1901, d. 13 April 1913, buried Old Orchard Cemetery I am also interested in knowing if the research of Mr. Haskell was preserved?

I have also been under the impression that David and Sarah only had one child. I have the following notes. Recollections of Pearl Leona Ervin Hobbs, wife of Oliver Jackson Hobbs, as told to her grandson James Harold Hobbs, son of Lacy Lafayette Hobb, "He was a farmer and a merchant and was a slave overseer for a Dr.Bonner for a number of years on a very large farm. After Dr. Bonner's death David purchased his farm and slaves and accumulated much wealth upon his death. David has only one son, Pless. Beverly Hobbs in Fayetteville should know about David, etc. I know that he was a tall man." I also have the following note in my file. David F. Hobbs, a prominent citizen and farmer, is one of eleven children born to Nathaniel and Sarah Hobbs. The father was of English descent, and was born in North Carolina in 1789. He was married in 1812, and came to Lincoln County in 1832, locating in the Sixteenth District. He was a cabinet-maker by occupation, and died in 1861. The mother of our subject was also of English origin, was born in the same State as her husband and about the same year. She died in 1875. Our subject was born in North Carolina July 25, 1820, and received his education in the schools near home. In 1841 he married Sarah Shipp, a native of Lincoln County, born 1823, and the daughter of Louis and Mary (Cole) Shipp. To our subject and wife was born one boy Pleasant, now a merchant in the Thirteenth District. After marriage Mr. Hobbs engaged with Dr. Bonner and remained with him nineteen years, overseeing and looking after the interest of the plantation. In 1865 he purchased 155 acres of land in the Thirteenth District, where he located, and since remained. He has since bought more land, and now he and his son own about 800 acres. He is a Democrat in politics, and cast his first presidential vote for James K. Polk. Pleasant Hobbs, son of our subject was born April 4, 1844, and received his education in Lincoln County. In 1870 he wedded, Laura Halbert a native of Lincoln County, born in 1854; and by this union became the father of five children: Tula H., Sarah E., David F., Jr., B. and B.M. Pleasant Hobbs, since he has grown to manhood, has been a partner with his father on the farm. December, 1880 he began the mercantile business in the Thirteenth District, where he still continues. September, 1885, J.D. Sugg entered into partnership with them, and the firm is now known as Hobbs & Sugg. They are doing a good business in the sale of dry goods and groceries, and carry about $4,000 worth of stock. Pleasant is a Democrat in politics, and a member of the Masonic fraternity. He and wife are also members of the Methodist Episcopal Church -----Original Message----- From: tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnlincol-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James L. Danley Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:16 AM To: TNLINCOL Subject: [TNLINCOL] HOBBS Family Dear List, First of all, there is a marriage record for a B. H. Hobbs to Sarah Jane Farrar on 5 Nov 1865 in LCT. Would anyone know who B. H. Hobbs is and who his parents are? In the 1870 LCT census Sarah Jane (Farrar) Hobbs is in her brother's (Lewis Shipp Farrar's) household with three children: N. E. Hobbs (4 years old ); Lu Hobbs (2 years old ) and B. D. Hobbs (3 mo. old). Now then, every source that I have seen indicates that David Franklin Hobbs & Sarah Ann Shipp had only the ONE child--Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs, who married Laura Graham Halbert. Furthermore, every source indicates that Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs was born in LCT--the 1850 and 1870 census records have him born in Tennessee. Yet the 1860, 1880 & 1900 LCT census records have him born in ARKANSAS. As if that weren't curious enough, in the 1900 LCT census, Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs' mother is living with him. According to THAT census record his mother had TWO children and BOTH are still living!!! Who is this second child? He or she is not living with his or her parents and brother, Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs, in 1850 or 1860 (nor the 1870-1900 census records). Any information on B. H. Hobbs and/or the other child of David Franklin Hobbs & Sarah Ann Shipp would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! James L. Danley Vista, CA jldanley@sbcglobal.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, First of all, there is a marriage record for a B. H. Hobbs to Sarah Jane Farrar on 5 Nov 1865 in LCT. Would anyone know who B. H. Hobbs is and who his parents are? In the 1870 LCT census Sarah Jane (Farrar) Hobbs is in her brother's (Lewis Shipp Farrar's) household with three children: N. E. Hobbs (4 years old ); Lu Hobbs (2 years old ) and B. D. Hobbs (3 mo. old). Now then, every source that I have seen indicates that David Franklin Hobbs & Sarah Ann Shipp had only the ONE child--Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs, who married Laura Graham Halbert. Furthermore, every source indicates that Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs was born in LCT--the 1850 and 1870 census records have him born in Tennessee. Yet the 1860, 1880 & 1900 LCT census records have him born in ARKANSAS. As if that weren't curious enough, in the 1900 LCT census, Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs' mother is living with him. According to THAT census record his mother had TWO children and BOTH are still living!!! Who is this second child? He or she is not living with his or her parents and brother, Pleasant "Pleas" Hobbs, in 1850 or 1860 (nor the 1870-1900 census records). Any information on B. H. Hobbs and/or the other child of David Franklin Hobbs & Sarah Ann Shipp would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! James L. Danley Vista, CA jldanley@sbcglobal.net