The best way to get their attention is to cancel your subscription, as I did.   Bob Tallman --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Family Tracker <familytracker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Family Tracker <familytracker@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1820 LCT census To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 4:01 PM I have pointed out this problem to Ancestry.com 3 times over a 6 month period without any success. They refuse to accept that their program link points to an incorrect database. I've even given them 3 other sources to use to verify that the data they are linking to is incorrect. They simply ignore me each time. I try to explain to them how damaging it is to their credibility, but they just don't get it. Maybe if everyone on this list hits them, they will wake up. You are right. All LCT data is shown under links to Jackson County TN. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also find all my names in Jackson County and they were in Lincoln. So don't know what has happened here. Gay Nix --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Donna Hanlon <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] Help needed from Ancestry member To: "LCT list" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 2:12 PM Found the same problem when looking at 1820 Joel Swanner. On the census original at the top of the page in the left margin is clearly written Lincoln, but the Ancestry index reads Jackson ct.  it may jsut be me, but I HATE the new Ancestry format. > From: jmolitz@cox.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:31 -0700 > Subject: [TNLINCOL] Help needed from Ancestry member > > Ancestry.com members.  Are you having problems finding people on the 1820 Lincoln CO., TN census?  Some months back Ancestry redesigned their web site .  After that when I put a name in the 1820 LCT index at Ancestry nothing comes up but if I put in Jackson CO., TN then I can get to the LCT census page for that person.  I saw someplace a long time ago & may now be mistaken but I do not believe there is a 1820 census for Jackson CO., TN that survived if there was one.  I am having a disagreement with Ancestry for I am not able to get them to understand me.  Would a Ancestry member on this list try to find someone they know to be in the 1820 LCT census & see what happens? > > Also when I try to find someone I know to be on the 1800 Cumberland CO., NC list, when I click onto the thumbnail to go to that person on the census after putting in all the info in the index, I get nothing plus the state window that I put NC in comes back as if I put "All State" in. > > > > Julia >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                           _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted more reliable, now it's more reliable. Wow! http://microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default-ga.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:102009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julia, I see what you mean.  I tried to find the Jones's in 1820 in LCT census . Luckly we have 1820 on Lincoln's site. Cindy --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Julia Molitz <jmolitz@cox.net> wrote: From: Julia Molitz <jmolitz@cox.net> Subject: [TNLINCOL] Help needed from Ancestry member To: "TNLINCOL" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 12:18 PM Ancestry.com members.  Are you having problems finding people on the 1820 Lincoln CO., TN census?  Some months back Ancestry redesigned their web site .  After that when I put a name in the 1820 LCT index at Ancestry nothing comes up but if I put in Jackson CO., TN then I can get to the LCT census page for that person.  I saw someplace a long time ago & may now be mistaken but I do not believe there is a 1820 census for Jackson CO., TN that survived if there was one.  I am having a disagreement with Ancestry for I am not able to get them to understand me.  Would a Ancestry member on this list try to find someone they know to be in the 1820 LCT census & see what happens? Also when I try to find someone I know to be on the 1800 Cumberland CO., NC list, when I click onto the thumbnail to go to that person on the census after putting in all the info in the index, I get nothing plus the state window that I put NC in comes back as if I put "All State" in. Julia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry.com members. Are you having problems finding people on the 1820 Lincoln CO., TN census? Some months back Ancestry redesigned their web site . After that when I put a name in the 1820 LCT index at Ancestry nothing comes up but if I put in Jackson CO., TN then I can get to the LCT census page for that person. I saw someplace a long time ago & may now be mistaken but I do not believe there is a 1820 census for Jackson CO., TN that survived if there was one. I am having a disagreement with Ancestry for I am not able to get them to understand me. Would a Ancestry member on this list try to find someone they know to be in the 1820 LCT census & see what happens? Also when I try to find someone I know to be on the 1800 Cumberland CO., NC list, when I click onto the thumbnail to go to that person on the census after putting in all the info in the index, I get nothing plus the state window that I put NC in comes back as if I put "All State" in. Julia

This was sent to me and thought it might be of use to those who are researching some Texas roots. > From: popsjackson@charter.net > To: txmontag@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:52 -0400 > Subject: [TXMONTAG] FW: Portal to Texas History - New Features Released > > As admin I have been asked to share the below information with you. Since > it is not commercial in nature and holds promise for helping you in your > research I am happy to do so. > Best wishes, > Jim "Pops" Jackson - TXMONTAG list admin > From: mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:mailman-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Murray, Kathleen > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Portal to Texas History - New Features Released > > Hello: > > Would you please help the Portal to Texas History by posting the message > below to your county mailing list? > > Thanks very much, > Kathleen Murray - University of North Texas Libraries > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _____ > The Portal to Texas History contains digitized collections from over 100 > Texas libraries, archives, genealogical and historical societies. Educators, > family history researchers, and historians will be particularly interested > in the exciting new features recently released! > Please explore the Portal and take a few minutes to complete a brief survey! > > Just select Brief Survey on Portal pages! > Portal to Texas History: http://texashistory.unt.edu/ > Thanks very much for your help! > Kathleen Murray - University of North Texas Libraries > kathleen.murray@unt.edu > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TXMONTAG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/

Paul, I have looked in my records and do have surname Moore, not the ones you are seeking.  I have been trying to get in touch with a family member in Tullahoma who has Moore relations by marriage, we will see if she has information.                                                                   Don ----- Original Message ----- From: whitepaul@aol.com To: TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:21:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [TNLINCOL] Fwd: My Samuel Moore       -----Original Message----- From: whitepaul@aol.com To: MooreSouth@yahoogroups.com; ZaneGeier1@wmconnect.com Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2009 8:16 pm Subject: Re: My Samuel Moore Eunice, Tina and others, I haven't run across any Carrolls being connected to my Moores, sorry. The Samuel Moore? that I have suspected might possibly be mine was a Minister who was living on the East Fork of Cain Creek in Lincoln Co., TN, around 1830. This Creek is situated between the towns of Fayetteville (Lincoln County seat) and Pulaski (Giles County seat). and as you know, Lincoln and Giles Counties join.This time would be compatible with the death of Eliab B. Moore, Sr. (d. 1826) in Pendleton/Greenville, SC, and before Samuel seem to have arrived in Benton Co., AL, and as a Baptist Minister.?? Eliab B. Moore, Sr. and wife Rebecca had two sons, Eliab B. Jr.. and a Samuel. Samuel appears to have vanished from the Greenville/Pendleton, SC,? area after his fathers death, or before 1830. Paul WhitePaul@aol.com     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, Thank you so very much to all who answered my query on when the Marshall Co TN Census was taken in District 5 (old Civil District 2) ... This is what I found due to your help and the help of someone who told me about the Tennessee Death Index on-line: Charles H. Partin/Pardon died one day after the 1920 census was taken for his section of Marshall Co TN !!!!! Tennessee Death Index 1920 Part 12 : Oakes - Pyotte Last Name First Name County DOD Vol. PG. Pardon Chas. Marshall 1/30 40 18 - - "Enumerated by me on the 29 day of January 1920. Lillie A. Shaw, Enumerator". I was also informed that the census for 1920 was to cover anyone who was living as of January 1, 1920. Thanks again for all your help. I appreciate it very much. Joy - - - - -----Original Message----- From: tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Oct 18, 2009 3:02 am Subject: TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 153 Today's Topics: 1. Re: TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams (Jim and Ruby) 2. Re-Peter Marshall (Larry Ruff) 3. LINCOLN COUNTY BIBLE RECORDS (prossergenealogy@comcast.net) 4. Re: 1920 Census enumeration date (Diane Casey) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:21:12 -0500 rom: "Jim and Ruby" <jmrbythms@united.net> ubject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams o: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <1FD359F7461C4D5CA8DB9A922DCA04DC@JimThomasPC> ontent-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The 1920 census for Marshall County Tennessee, Old Civil District 2, was numerated 29 January 1920. It shows household 75-76 as you have it with Pardon, Charlie, Lodger, 84". The Heritage of Marshall County Tennessee" contains articles 561 and 562 on harles H. Partin. There is a picture of General Forrest Partin and another f John Partin. Also article 271 is entitled 'Peter Elisha Adams & Lodger'' hich names Lodger Charlie Partin (aka Charles H. Partin..."). his book is still available in limited qantity. Contact Ruby Thomas, mrbythms@united.net for price and ordering instructions. im Thomas. ---- Original Message ----- rom: <jpddigest1@aol.com> o: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> ent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:38 PM ubject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams Hello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry below was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame that Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p 4A #75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN TN TN , Julia Dau 18 S All Kids TN TN TN , John Son 16 S , Robert Son 14 S , James G. Son 10 S , Tishia M. Dau 7 S , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2441 - Release Date: 10/16/09 8:39:00 ------------------------------ Message: 2 ate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 8:21:10 -0700 rom: Larry Ruff <lruff@charter.net> ubject: [TNLINCOL] Re-Peter Marshall o: tnlincol@rootsweb.com c: tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <20091017112110.N0COK.7108130.root@mp20> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 -- arry Ruff ww.greenwaynetwork.org ww.racefortherivers.org ---- tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ============= oday's Topics: 1. Re: TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams (jpddigest1@aol.com) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:20 -0400 rom: jpddigest1@aol.com ubject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams o: tnlincol@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <8CC1CC87F432EEF-56DC-A91D@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry elow was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame hat Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, eneral Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln ounties, TN most of their lives. 920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p 4A 75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN TN TN Julia Dau 18 S All Kids TN TN TN John Son 16 S Robert Son 14 S James G. Son 10 S Tishia M. Dau 7 S Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S ardon, Charlie Lodger 84 anuary 29, 1920 ------------------------------ To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to NLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to NLINCOL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com ith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of he mail with no additional text. nd of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 152 *************************************** ----------------------------- Message: 3 ate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:19:11 +0000 (UTC) rom: prossergenealogy@comcast.net ubject: [TNLINCOL] LINCOLN COUNTY BIBLE RECORDS o: TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com, TN-CHESTNUTRIDGECOUSINS@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <405540530.7167711255796351141.JavaMail.root@sz0122a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List Members, Is the Lincoln County Bible Records Vol. 1 compiled by Ms. Mabel Tucker and Ms. ane Waller still available? If not I guess my best resource would be the incoln County Genealogical Society? obby Prosser prossergenealogy@comcast.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 ate: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:03:33 -0700 rom: "Diane Casey" <iluvaz@cox.net> ubject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1920 Census enumeration date o: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> essage-ID: <000601ca4f8e$d07ca360$7175ea20$@net> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" According to the web, the census date was 01/01/1920 See the web page below. ttp://www.rootdig.com/adn/censuswanted.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:20 -0400 rom: jpddigest1@aol.com ubject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams o: tnlincol@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <8CC1CC87F432EEF-56DC-A91D@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census ntry below was taken? as it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time rame that Charlie died in 1920. harles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, eneral Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln ounties, TN most of their lives. 920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p A 75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN N TN , Julia Dau 18 S ll Kids TN TN TN , John Son 16 S , Robert Son 14 S , James G. Son 10 S , Tishia M. Dau 7 S , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84 ------------------------------ To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to NLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. 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The date at the top of any census page is the date the census was actually taken, but the information on the sheet is supposed to be accurate according to the CENSUS DATE, which in this case is 1 JANUARY 1920. So, if the census taker came on 28 January and a child had been born on 15 January, technically that child should not appear in the census. By the same token, if someone died on the 15th, they should appear in the census even though they were dead when the census taker visited the house. For 1920, the time to finish the census was one month. As most of us know, the CENSUS DATE varies from census year to census year, also, the length of time to complete the census varies. From 1830 to 1900 the CENSUS DATE was 1 June, but the length of time allowed to complete the enumeration ranged from 18 months, 1830, to 1 month, 1900. A good book for information about the censuses, census year by census year, is The Census Book by William Dollarhide, if you can find a copy. Marleen Van Horne

At the top of the census page it says this was done 29 January ________________________________ From: Diane Casey <iluvaz@cox.net> To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 8:03:33 PM Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] 1920 Census enumeration date According to the web, the census date was 01/01/1920 See the web page below. http://www.rootdig.com/adn/censuswanted.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:20 -0400 From: jpddigest1@aol.com Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CC1CC87F432EEF-56DC-A91D@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry below was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame that Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road,  ED 106,  p 4A #75-76 ADAMS, Peter    Head    M  W    43  M            TN AL TN                         , Lizzie  Wife      F  W    43  M              TN TN TN                         , Julia    Dau                    18 S All Kids TN TN TN                         , John    Son                    16 S                         , Robert  Son                    14 S                         , James G. Son                10 S                         , Tishia M.  Dau                7 S                         , Gladys      Dau              3 5/12 S              Pardon, Charlie      Lodger          84 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

According to the web, the census date was 01/01/1920 See the web page below. http://www.rootdig.com/adn/censuswanted.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:20 -0400 From: jpddigest1@aol.com Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CC1CC87F432EEF-56DC-A91D@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry below was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame that Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p 4A #75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN TN TN , Julia Dau 18 S All Kids TN TN TN , John Son 16 S , Robert Son 14 S , James G. Son 10 S , Tishia M. Dau 7 S , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84

List Members, Is the Lincoln County Bible Records Vol. 1 compiled by Ms. Mabel Tucker and Ms. Jane Waller still available? If not I guess my best resource would be the Lincoln County Genealogical Society? Bobby Prosser prossergenealogy@comcast.net

-- Larry Ruff www.greenwaynetwork.org www.racefortherivers.org ---- tnlincol-request@rootsweb.com wrote: ============= Today's Topics: 1. Re: TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams (jpddigest1@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:38:20 -0400 From: jpddigest1@aol.com Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CC1CC87F432EEF-56DC-A91D@webmail-d064.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry below was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame that Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p 4A #75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN TN TN , Julia Dau 18 S All Kids TN TN TN , John Son 16 S , Robert Son 14 S , James G. Son 10 S , Tishia M. Dau 7 S , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84 January 29, 1920 ------------------------------ To contact the TNLINCOL list administrator, send an email to TNLINCOL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNLINCOL mailing list, send an email to TNLINCOL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TNLINCOL Digest, Vol 4, Issue 152 ****************************************

The 1920 census for Marshall County Tennessee, Old Civil District 2, was enumerated 29 January 1920. It shows household 75-76 as you have it with "Pardon, Charlie, Lodger, 84". "The Heritage of Marshall County Tennessee" contains articles 561 and 562 on Charles H. Partin. There is a picture of General Forrest Partin and another of John Partin. Also article 271 is entitled 'Peter Elisha Adams & Lodger'' which names Lodger Charlie Partin (aka Charles H. Partin..."). This book is still available in limited qantity. Contact Ruby Thomas, jmrbythms@united.net for price and ordering instructions. Jim Thomas. ----- Original Message ----- From: <jpddigest1@aol.com> To: <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] TNLINCOL Digest, Partin/Pardon, Adams > > Hello List, > > > > Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census > entry below was taken? > > Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time > frame that Charlie died in 1920. > > > > Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct > ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and > Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. > > > > > 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, > p 4A > #75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN > , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN > TN TN > , Julia Dau 18 S > All Kids TN TN TN > , John Son 16 S > , Robert Son 14 S > , James G. Son 10 S > , Tishia M. Dau 7 S > , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S > Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2441 - Release Date: 10/16/09 18:39:00

Hello List, Could someone with access to the 1920 census tell me the date the census entry below was taken? Was it early in the year or midyear? I am trying to narrow down the time frame that Charlie died in 1920. Charles H. "Charlie" Partin/Pardon was a half brother of my direct ancestor, General Forrest Partin. As far as I know they lived in Giles and Lincoln Counties, TN most of their lives. 1920 Marshall Co TN Census (Old Civil District 2) Larwod? Road, ED 106, p 4A #75-76 ADAMS, Peter Head M W 43 M TN AL TN , Lizzie Wife F W 43 M TN TN TN , Julia Dau 18 S All Kids TN TN TN , John Son 16 S , Robert Son 14 S , James G. Son 10 S , Tishia M. Dau 7 S , Gladys Dau 3 5/12 S Pardon, Charlie Lodger 84

-----Original Message----- From: whitepaul@aol.com To: MooreSouth@yahoogroups.com; ZaneGeier1@wmconnect.com Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2009 8:16 pm Subject: Re: My Samuel Moore Eunice, Tina and others, I haven't run across any Carrolls being connected to my Moores, sorry. The Samuel Moore? that I have suspected might possibly be mine was a Minister who was living on the East Fork of Cain Creek in Lincoln Co., TN, around 1830. This Creek is situated between the towns of Fayetteville (Lincoln County seat) and Pulaski (Giles County seat). and as you know, Lincoln and Giles Counties join.This time would be compatible with the death of Eliab B. Moore, Sr. (d. 1826) in Pendleton/Greenville, SC, and before Samuel seem to have arrived in Benton Co., AL, and as a Baptist Minister.?? Eliab B. Moore, Sr. and wife Rebecca had two sons, Eliab B. Jr.. and a Samuel. Samuel appears to have vanished from the Greenville/Pendleton, SC,? area after his fathers death, or before 1830. Paul WhitePaul@aol.com

Correction Pauper Cemetery is in Frankin CO not Moore CO., TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Molitz" <jmolitz@cox.net> To: "TNLINCOL" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: [TNLINCOL] Fw: Susan F. Dollins 1849-1850 > For those researching Dollins > > > Susan was the dau of John Allen and Elizabeth Jones Dollins. She was born > 1 Aug 1849 in Franklin Co., TN and died 23 Oct 1850 in Franklin CO., TN. > She must have been buried in the Dollins family cemetery there. Her > parents moved to Coffee CO., TN then to IL then onto Orlando FL. The Tims > Ford Reservoir made it necessary for those buried in the cemeteries in the > way of the Reservoir to be moved. Below is taken from a book on those > cemeteries that a genealogy Angel sent to me from the Tennessee mailing > list. Susan is now interned in the Paupers Cemetery in Moore CO., TN. > > > > > NO 13. DOLLINS CEMETERY > Located on Land Map 6, Tract TMFR-603, on right bank of Lost Creek, 2.0 > miles, +/-, northwest of Marble Plains Church and 1400 feet, plus or > minus, > west of Lost Creek Road. This lone grave and monument were moved by court > resolution, since no relatives were located, to re-internment cemetery, > R-14 > (Pauper #17). > Name > 1- Susan F. DOLLINS age-1 DOD-1850 Cause of death - unknown > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For those researching Dollins Susan was the dau of John Allen and Elizabeth Jones Dollins. She was born 1 Aug 1849 in Franklin Co., TN and died 23 Oct 1850 in Franklin CO., TN. She must have been buried in the Dollins family cemetery there. Her parents moved to Coffee CO., TN then to IL then onto Orlando FL. The Tims Ford Reservoir made it necessary for those buried in the cemeteries in the way of the Reservoir to be moved. Below is taken from a book on those cemeteries that a genealogy Angel sent to me from the Tennessee mailing list. Susan is now interned in the Paupers Cemetery in Moore CO., TN. NO 13. DOLLINS CEMETERY Located on Land Map 6, Tract TMFR-603, on right bank of Lost Creek, 2.0 miles, +/-, northwest of Marble Plains Church and 1400 feet, plus or minus, west of Lost Creek Road. This lone grave and monument were moved by court resolution, since no relatives were located, to re-internment cemetery, R-14 (Pauper #17). Name 1- Susan F. DOLLINS age-1 DOD-1850 Cause of death - unknown

Julia, thanks for the response -- this is what I have found -- From my computer mapping program, which might be wrong (some of the river is shown as a straight line) ---- Heads up NE of Lexington in Henderson Co. --sweeps Sough and then loops back North -- Crosses US70 South West of Cedar Grove -- turns South West into Madison County -- turns back North of Jackson -- crosses into Crockett County South West of Humboldt and then joins the North Fork of the Forked Deer River South East of Dyersburg in Dyer County. I don't mean this to be exactly accurate but the best my program can do. This from http://www.tngenweb.org/stewart/gshis5.htm <<At the time of organization, Stewart County extended west to the Tennessee River, and south to the Alabama line, and upon extinguishment of the title of the Chickasaws to the lands in the Western Purchase, as it was then called, in 1819, the county had jurisdiction over all that country reaching to the Mississippi River. The major portion of that vast domain, however, was taken from Stewart County and erected into new counties by an act of the legislature in 1821. The last time her territory was reduced was in 1871, when Houston County was created.>> As to plotting the grant I will need a map showing ranges. More Later Bill Trott Pasadena, TX Julia Molitz wrote: > Bill, > > The Forked Deer River could have extended into Stewart CO., TN. Stewart CO > was established in 1803 however Rev War Vets where taking up land grants as > early as 1780. I have not been able, so far, to find a map of Stewart CO., > TN in1803 to see just how the lines have changed over the many years. Here > are some more sites that may be of help. > > http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=M107 > > http://www.mytennesseegenealogy.com/tn-county-stewart.html > > > > > >

Thanks, Marleen. It sounds like the Y 37 would be the best for starters. As far as the Native American, that is iffy at best as I have very little information to go on. Even if it tested to be present, I still would not know where to go from there. It is probably better to stick with the lines I have researched for years and have greater knowledge of those individuals. I just need some confirmation on the lines I am sure of and the one varient Swaner/ Swanner line, I would love to know if that line is indeed related to the one I am sure of. I'd have to go into greater detail explaining the Swanner line for it to make sense. This particular line, I can trace from a living member to father to grandfather. It is the great grandfather that is in question. All the children carry the Swaner/Swanner name, however no father was ever captured on census and children were born between the censuses, AND one was claimed by another prominent LCT family and named the father. So I know at least one child out of the group belonged to another father. It is possible that each child had a different father. This is what I want to try to discover by DNA on the youngest son of the family. Still this will only designate a possible father for that one child. I believe that the Swaner mother was at one time married to a Swaner, and is possibly the widow of same. If so, her husband died in 1834, leaving her with 3 children born about 1827, 1829, and 1930. The mother's next family began in 1836, 1838, 1841, 1844, and 1850. Problem is, the first 3 children were married before the 1850 census, so the 2 families were never listed by name together. I have read all the responses you posted on the site and have a better understanding of the process, yet still at a novice level. A lot more reading necessary, I feel, to get a real grasp of it. Thank you so much for your detailed description. It really helped. Donna > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 17:49:01 -0700 > From: msvnhrn@jps.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA testing > > Donna, > > The four basic tests are 12, 25, 37 and 67 markers. In addition to that > there are a bunch of other tests you can do, but whether you should do > them depends on what happens with your initial results. > > If you want, do the 67 or the 37 marker test, then write to me and I > will give you an analysis of your results, and point you to where you > can go for more information. > > Marleen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/

Yeah, the Princess term will get a hearty he-he from most circles, as hierarchy in tribal society wasn't termed like Euorpean aristocracy. But that doesn't mean she did not hold a position of honor and respect within the society. Women, especially Cherokee women were held in high respect and their word was often gospel when making tribal decisions. To understand this, all children belonged to the mother and her clan, making her a head of household. There were actually women, regardless of age who were highly revered and on occasion considered sacred. Now, I'll be quiet. HA! > Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 14:11:43 -0700 > From: rjtallman@verizon.net > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > Hi All, > > I have been following the discussions on DNA with interest. I agree with Donnie Porter's comments and would like to share my personal DNA experience with the group. > > I am the moderator for the Rootsweb Tallman List and we had subscribed to DNA testing > with FTDNA, both Y and mtDNA. I can't fault FTDNA for their work, but I do have reservations of how people apply the information to their genealogical data. If you read the fine print, identical matches are not a 100% guarentee that the individuals are related, but rather a high probability. If that's OK with you, fine. I consider it a guide for further research. I prefer the dusty and moldy old records. > > > I also did mtDNA search for my native American line. My Dad told me that his Grandmother was a Cherokee Princess. I used that comment at Cherokee Web site and was laughed at. Seems an Indian Princess is not a complimentory term. Regarding the mtDNA, one needs an uninterupted female line, which I had. I was advised that all I could expect was a NO or a MAYBE. So, I'm still at "MAYBE" and stonewalled. > > I'll join Donnie and keep my mouth shut. > > Bob Tallman > > > Sun, 10/4/09, Donnie F. Porter <scotsman@cafes.net> wrote: > > > From: Donnie F. Porter <scotsman@cafes.net> > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > To: tnlincol@rootsweb.com > Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 3:56 PM > > > Donna, > > > > The Y DNA is strictly passed along from father to son, MOSTLY unchanged > (except for the occasional single-marker mutation), generation after > generation. The mother plays no part at all in the yDNA and none of her > genes are represented in any Y comparison - that's why the person having the > test must be a male direct descendant for this to work. Any male having the > yDNA test will be testing only the Y chromosome. > > > > Children, both male and female, inherit all of their mitochondrial DNA (or > mtDNA) from their mother. All of a mother's sons will bear only her mtDNA > and, because they are biologically incapable of passing that along to their > offspring, male OR female, it dies with them. Biologically, the male can > pass on nothing but yDNA. > > > > The genetic test for Indian ancestry is indeed a separate test. > > > > Now I'll leave the Indian ancestry question to others on the list, BUT - I > would THINK that any positive test for Indian ancestry in the yDNA would > mean that the progenitor of that particular male line was a full blood > Indian. Again I would THINK that any other Indian genetic influence in any > direct male European, Asian, or African line would be the result of mtDNA of > the maternal ancestry a particular generation. > > > > I'd like to hear more from someone on the LCT list who's actually had a > genetic test for Indian ancestry, or who's explored it and knows more about > it. I have some Indian ancestry myself but it is in my grandfather's > maternal line and I wouldn't THINK it would show up in me at all. > > > > ?????????????? > > > Now I promise to be quiet this time! > > Donnie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Hanlon" <dehanlon47@hotmail.com> > To: "LCT list" <tnlincol@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: [TNLINCOL] DNA question > > > > When different markers appear in the Y comparisons, is that maybe a dominant > gene from possibly a mother? When you are testing Y DNA, most of the markers > will appear the same for each generation, right? Bascially this proves that > the person you tested will display the same markers as the generations > preceding him. any variations from that would be possibly a dominent or > recessive gene picked up along the way or possibly doubled or negated at > some point? Clear as mud, huh? > > > > Since my tree does not branch much, I may have some interesting results. My > great grandparents had in common the same ancestor, about 2 generations > apart. But, thankfully, I don't have 6 webbed toes per foot. > > > > I really appreciate you all taking the time to answer my questions. Many > thanks. Donna > > > > Will be getting back to you more in the future, as it seems I am related to > half of Lincoln ct. by blood or marriage. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNLINCOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/