I was interested in your connections to the McCLURE family and the SHERROD family but for different reasons. Martha J. LESLIE/LESLEY/LASLEY married a McClure in Lincoln or Franklin County. His name was Nathan or he was a son of a Nathan. My line is through Martha's younger brother, Alexander LESLIE/LESLEY, b. 1849, the s/o John and Catherine LESLEY/LESLIE/ LASLEY. Catherine died about 1868 and I have been looking for Alexander (Alex/Alec) in the 1870 Census. Where is your McClure in 1870? My SHERROD family was in Tennessee but migrated to NW Arkansas through Illinois. Both brothers, Arthur and William SHERROD, were veterans of the War of 1812 and received land in Bond County, Illinois. They both were Methodist ministers. They finally settled in Washington County, Arkansas. Any information on any of these family would be appreciated.

No, Robert Campbell is listed as a laborer. He had more than three daughters (sorry, I'm at work and don't have my notes). There are some grandchildren in the household too. Looks like they were all illegitimate. I can't find marriage records on any of them except one and of course, it's not the 'right' one. Thanks for asking about Rufus! Tammie Original Message: ----------------- From: Baker groovekrickets@comcast.net Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:10:42 -0600 To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc Tammie, yes she lives in Crossville, Bertha Sue (Cambell) Malone. I think I have asked her before about all this. Someone, and I can't remember who, said that Jane CAMPBELL was likely the daughter of a doctor who lived in that area. The doctor had 3 daughters I think who all had children out of wedlock. Eventually they all married , not sure if it was to the fathers of their children or not. Was the Robert CAMPBELL you mentioned a doctor by any chance? I will look through what I have and ask grandma again. Thanks, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc > Hi Dave, > > I think we have corresponded before. I can't think of her name (Bertha?) > but does your wife's grandmother live in Crossville? > > I would like to know who Jane Campbell is. I think she might be LJ > Campbell, daughter of Robert and Mary Campbell of Lincoln County but I have > no proof. Or she might be the Lou Campbell in the 1880 LCT census along > with Rufus, another son William and a woman named Lizzie who is listed as > being Lou's mother. Of course this doesn't work with the parents being > Robert and Mary but I just haven't found anything else. Rufus' father is > listed as "unknown" on his death certificate. My grandfather is Rufus' > grandson but he knows very little about him because he was born the year > Rufus died. I have a picture of the man, his death certificate, his will, > his obituary, land records etc but cannot find anything else. Anything your > wife's grandmother knows would be very much appreciated! > > Thanks, > Tammie > > > Tammie, I live in Nashville. My wife's grandmother,who is still living, is > > your Rufus M Campbells grandaughter. What do you want to know? Dave Baker > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> > > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM > > Subject: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc > > > > > >> Hi Joy, > >> > >> I was born in Knoxville, grew up in Knoxville, Newark Delaware, Marcellus > > NY > >> and finally back to Mt. Juliet TN. I currently live in Nashville and > > teach > >> school in Wilson County. My grandparents grew up in Lincoln County and > > have > >> lived in Tullahoma since the 50's. > >> > >> I am searching (to no avail so far) for more info on Rufus McDonald > >> Campbell, born 1870 in TN and died in Lincoln County in 1921. He is my gg > >> grandfather. His mother was Jane Campbell, per his death certificate and > >> father unknown. He was married first to Nancy Shelton and later to Fannie > >> Good. > >> > >> My grandmother was an Edwards, daughter of William Buford Edwards and I > > have > >> lots of info on that line. > >> > >> Rufus' sister married a Luttrell from Lincoln County and they moved to TX. > >> I'm interested in her in hope of finding out more about Rufus. > >> > >> I also have Ropers, Wests, Knox, Thompson, Gatlin, Taylor, > > Crabtree,McCree, > >> Whitt, Haygood, Hopwood, McClure, Mcintosh, Fowler. 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Fascinating reading. Thanks. > > From: "Mary Miller" <hlm@qtm.net> > Date: 2005/01/20 Thu AM 03:55:44 GMT > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > did you know that some now say the Melungeons have Turk blood......seems Sir > Frances Drake left about 200 Ottoman sailors here when he went back to > England, and Ottoman included Turks, Croats, etc. > > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joy0420@charter.net> > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > According to research I've done into Familial Mediterranean Fever, it is > carried thru Armenians, Turks, and non-Ashkenazi Jews (Sephardic). The > Sephardic Jews were driven out of their region centuries ago, many migrating > thru Germany, etc. Allegedly, the "Black Dutch", as many families called > themselves, derived this name from the German Black Forest...could these > people have given up their religion b/c of persecution. It wouldn't be the > first time. > > I have 1 Warren cousin who was genetically tested for this - so could it > be? > > George, this is a bit "off subject" in a sense, but family history is not > just about dates and names. > > Any input out there? Joy > > > > > > From: Jmolitz@aol.com > > > Date: 2005/01/17 Mon PM 11:10:26 GMT > > > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > > > As I recall reading the book "Blood & Whiskey" The Life and Times of > Jack > > > Daniel by Peter Krass, I believe Mr. Krass wrote about a Jewish family > that > > > either lived in what became Moore CO or did business in the area. I > will have to > > > look it up and get back with you but you will not like what he wrote. > It seems > > > this "business person" had a house of ill repute. > > > > > > Julia > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:46:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > > joy0420@charter.net writes: > > > > > > << > > > > Historically speaking, like over a hundred years ago and more...were > there > > > > any Jewish families in Lincoln/Moore/Coffee/Giles county? Both sides > of my > > > > father's family were from this area. At whatever time in history was > there > > > > was some Jewish heritage in Lincoln Co.? According to the DNA with > > > > Geneology.com. (that my 89 year old father participated in) there was > some > > > > Jewish heritage in our family. I hope this does not open the can of > > > "worms" > > > > that my inquiry about Native American history in Lincoln County > caused a > > > > few years ago. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Carmen McDaniel Forbes > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Please support the LCT Genealogical Society :-) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Yes I found them in Hardin County, Tn. then in Lauderdale county Al. then back in Hardin county. The dates I'm not sure with out checking but Sherrod rode with Forrest in the CSA and was discharged at the end of the war. There a story there at that time he livred in Tn so he rode a horse and carried his gun to sign up so they put him in the calvery since he had a horse to ride. Take care, Bill

One of Sherrods son left Hardin County, Tn. and went to Mo. and Married a McClure out there and I believe it was relatives of his mothers. I believe I have something on that I will look it up its on paper so I'll get back to you if I can find it either way I'll let you know. Bill

A few years ago at the National Archives in WDC, I had the opportunity to review lists of military under Tennessee's Col Pipken who was the subject of much controversy during 1814. I did not see a Solomon Stewart/Stuart. This is what I believe I did see on the 1812 index and I don't know if my Lincoln County Solomon Stewart is among them: 1. Solomon Stewart / Extra Batt., MD Mil 2. Solomon Stewart / 8 Regt (Magnien's) Vir. Mil 3. Solomon Steward /7R (Magnien's) Vir. Mil 4. Solomon Stewart / 7 Regt (Magnien's) Vir. Mil 5. Solomon Stewart / Det 3 R (Renick's) Ohio Mil 6. Solomon Stewart / 2 R (Burbank's) Mass Mil 7. Solomon Stewart / Foxcroft's Regt Mass Mil 8. Solomon Stewart / Capt Murray's Co, Ohio 9. Solomon Stewart /11 Regt (Pitts) MD Mil c. I guess he could have been part of the 39th or 49th from Lincoln County, but I do not know how to verify that. Or, he could have gotten around the service by either paying someone to take his place, or by being charged with food production on his land / plantation near the Flynt River. Any ideas / pointers / helps would be greatly appreciated. Cheers from 6600 ft Dick Stewart

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There is a family legend that Elizabeth was cast out for some reason and Sherrod married her and later her family became kinda well off and tried to contact her but she had died at that time. Where that come from I don't know. In tracing the family there were three Sherrods one B. 1776, one 1802 and one 1833. The one that married Elizabeth was 1802 and to my knowledge she was his only wife. There are many marriagesof McClures in the 1838-1880 do you have that book? Bill

No, Robert Campbell is listed as a laborer. He had more than three daughters (sorry, I'm at work and don't have my notes). There are some grandchildren in the household too. Looks like they were all illegitimate. I can't find marriage records on any of them except one and of course, it's not the 'right' one. Thanks for asking about Rufus! Tammie Original Message: ----------------- From: Baker groovekrickets@comcast.net Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:10:42 -0600 To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc Tammie, yes she lives in Crossville, Bertha Sue (Cambell) Malone. I think I have asked her before about all this. Someone, and I can't remember who, said that Jane CAMPBELL was likely the daughter of a doctor who lived in that area. The doctor had 3 daughters I think who all had children out of wedlock. Eventually they all married , not sure if it was to the fathers of their children or not. Was the Robert CAMPBELL you mentioned a doctor by any chance? I will look through what I have and ask grandma again. Thanks, Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc > Hi Dave, > > I think we have corresponded before. I can't think of her name (Bertha?) > but does your wife's grandmother live in Crossville? > > I would like to know who Jane Campbell is. I think she might be LJ > Campbell, daughter of Robert and Mary Campbell of Lincoln County but I have > no proof. Or she might be the Lou Campbell in the 1880 LCT census along > with Rufus, another son William and a woman named Lizzie who is listed as > being Lou's mother. Of course this doesn't work with the parents being > Robert and Mary but I just haven't found anything else. Rufus' father is > listed as "unknown" on his death certificate. My grandfather is Rufus' > grandson but he knows very little about him because he was born the year > Rufus died. I have a picture of the man, his death certificate, his will, > his obituary, land records etc but cannot find anything else. Anything your > wife's grandmother knows would be very much appreciated! > > Thanks, > Tammie > > > Tammie, I live in Nashville. My wife's grandmother,who is still living, is > > your Rufus M Campbells grandaughter. What do you want to know? Dave Baker > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> > > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:50 PM > > Subject: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc > > > > > >> Hi Joy, > >> > >> I was born in Knoxville, grew up in Knoxville, Newark Delaware, Marcellus > > NY > >> and finally back to Mt. Juliet TN. I currently live in Nashville and > > teach > >> school in Wilson County. My grandparents grew up in Lincoln County and > > have > >> lived in Tullahoma since the 50's. > >> > >> I am searching (to no avail so far) for more info on Rufus McDonald > >> Campbell, born 1870 in TN and died in Lincoln County in 1921. He is my gg > >> grandfather. His mother was Jane Campbell, per his death certificate and > >> father unknown. He was married first to Nancy Shelton and later to Fannie > >> Good. > >> > >> My grandmother was an Edwards, daughter of William Buford Edwards and I > > have > >> lots of info on that line. > >> > >> Rufus' sister married a Luttrell from Lincoln County and they moved to TX. > >> I'm interested in her in hope of finding out more about Rufus. > >> > >> I also have Ropers, Wests, Knox, Thompson, Gatlin, Taylor, > > Crabtree,McCree, > >> Whitt, Haygood, Hopwood, McClure, Mcintosh, Fowler. Some of these are from > >> Limstone County Alabama. > >> > >> Wish I had more time to work on this!! > >> > >> Tammie > >> > >>> Tammie, > >>> Where are you from and who are your LCT ancestors?? > >>> Joy > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> > >>> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:03 PM > >>> Subject: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > >>> > >>> > >>>> I think you are totally correct! In fact, this is the sort of thing > > that > >>>> really fascinates me..I want to know what my ancestors' lives were like > >>> and > >>>> not just when and where they lived. 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Thanks for that look-up if they are the same was Alexander listed and what was his age. Thanks again, Bill

Hi, I just have to throw in that I have seen alot of info on Melungon, that you were this is your ancestor came from the Black Forest of Germany. If you were mixed, ei: black & white or indian & white, as you were not excepted if you were black or indian, so, if mixed call yourself "Black Dutch" or Black Irish" and you would be safe. Also that the term was used for way back when the Spaniards came over and mixed with the whites, blacks or indians...so, seems people used the term for many various reasons, which ever fit theirs needs. I have also seen many descriptions of this, dark hair and skin with fair eyes seems to be the most common. My grandfather used the term Black Dutch, and the Warrens are dark skin, haired with mostly all have blue eyes...I have not found any Indian or black in our line, again, hard to trace those when you couldn't be indian or black... Cindy

Bill, Thank you for sharing the story on your Elizabeth MCCLURE, I really enjoyed reading it. I have a copy of several McClure marriages from the book "Early Middle Tennessee Marriages " the time frame it covers is 1838-1871 for Lincoln Co and 1838-1874 for Franklin County. So have you found your Elizabeth on census? And if so where were they living.? I have been trying to connect my line of McClures with the others in Lincoln and Franklin County. You can find my John MCCLURE age 63, on the 1850 census living in Lincoln County TN with his wife Artelissa age 49, also with the following children. John S. age 15, Frances G.age 16, Semantha J. age 14, George W. age 8. Census has that both John and his wife born in NC. John's son Frances G . is my line. He married Nancy ETHRIDGE. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <RufusDolly@aol.com> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [LCT] Elizabeth McClure & Parish > There is a family legend that Elizabeth was cast out for some reason and > Sherrod married her and later her family became kinda well off and tried to > contact her but she had died at that time. Where that come from I don't know. In > tracing the family there were three Sherrods one B. 1776, one 1802 and one 1833. > The one that married Elizabeth was 1802 and to my knowledge she was his only > wife. There are many marriagesof McClures in the 1838-1880 do you have that > book? Bill > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Please capitalize SURNAMES in your posts. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Joy: When seeing references to "Black" heritage, keep in mind that Native Americans of every "tribe" were referred to as Black in the 1880 Census. Native Americans were not considered "White". That is the reason so many of our ancestors denied their heritage. And the reason so many of us can not get a handle on "from whence forth" our ancestors were from. Carmen McDaniel Forbes

Joy: When seeing references to "Black" heritage, keep in mind that Native Americans of every "tribe" were referred to as Black in the 1880 Census. Native Americans ere not considered "White". That is the reason so many of our ancestors deni

Joy: There has been a FAMILY TREE DNA on the Mulegons. My husband, a Forbes, participated. It also showed the Sephardic Jew, just like my father who is of the McDaniel line. My father's line was also "said" to have Cherokee heritage. My husband's line is proven to have Chotaw blood. The DNA study for the Mulegons that my husband participated is not complete. Neither is the McDonald/McDanel/McDaniel DNA that my father participated in. The DNA testing is really fascinating. I do not know if you saw the PBS special on the origin man. There are also DNA test going on in the rest of the world to find out from whence forth we came. The more participants they have in the test, the more the origins of man can be established. Unfortunately, they are not testing women. Our DNA is passed from mother to daughter. We are too "complicated" for their test. But then too we do have our father's genes. Guess this is gross discrimination! Carmen McDaniel Forbes

I was reading your message and going to comment on the fact that my son-in-law has a full blood Cherokee grandmother from TN and her maiden name was Campbell....she said a lot of the Indians used that name..... then I read your surnames - my son-in-law is a Haygood spelled just that way. They were in TN but moved to AR near the Mississippi river. We have got to compare notes.... Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammie Williamson" <tammiesalbums@comcast.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: [LCT] Campbell, Edwards, Shelton, Luttrell etc . > > I am searching (to no avail so far) for more info on Rufus McDonald > Campbell, born 1870 in TN and died in Lincoln County in 1921. He is my gg > grandfather. His mother was Jane Campbell, per his death certificate and > father unknown. He was married first to Nancy Shelton and later to Fannie > Good. > > My grandmother was an Edwards, daughter of William Buford Edwards and I have > lots of info on that line. > > Rufus' sister married a Luttrell from Lincoln County and they moved to TX. > I'm interested in her in hope of finding out more about Rufus. > > I also have Ropers, Wests, Knox, Thompson, Gatlin, Taylor, Crabtree,McCree, > Whitt, Haygood, Hopwood, McClure, Mcintosh, Fowler. Some of these are from > Limstone County Alabama. > > Wish I had more time to work on this!! > > Tammie

did you know that some now say the Melungeons have Turk blood......seems Sir Frances Drake left about 200 Ottoman sailors here when he went back to England, and Ottoman included Turks, Croats, etc. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <joy0420@charter.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > According to research I've done into Familial Mediterranean Fever, it is carried thru Armenians, Turks, and non-Ashkenazi Jews (Sephardic). The Sephardic Jews were driven out of their region centuries ago, many migrating thru Germany, etc. Allegedly, the "Black Dutch", as many families called themselves, derived this name from the German Black Forest...could these people have given up their religion b/c of persecution. It wouldn't be the first time. > I have 1 Warren cousin who was genetically tested for this - so could it be? > George, this is a bit "off subject" in a sense, but family history is not just about dates and names. > Any input out there? Joy > > > > From: Jmolitz@aol.com > > Date: 2005/01/17 Mon PM 11:10:26 GMT > > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > As I recall reading the book "Blood & Whiskey" The Life and Times of Jack > > Daniel by Peter Krass, I believe Mr. Krass wrote about a Jewish family that > > either lived in what became Moore CO or did business in the area. I will have to > > look it up and get back with you but you will not like what he wrote. It seems > > this "business person" had a house of ill repute. > > > > Julia > > > > > > In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:46:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > joy0420@charter.net writes: > > > > << > > > Historically speaking, like over a hundred years ago and more...were there > > > any Jewish families in Lincoln/Moore/Coffee/Giles county? Both sides of my > > > father's family were from this area. At whatever time in history was there > > > was some Jewish heritage in Lincoln Co.? According to the DNA with > > > Geneology.com. (that my 89 year old father participated in) there was some > > > Jewish heritage in our family. I hope this does not open the can of > > "worms" > > > that my inquiry about Native American history in Lincoln County caused a > > > few years ago. > > > Sincerely, > > > Carmen McDaniel Forbes > > >> > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > Register your first lines in LCT: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Register your first lines in LCT: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Could you be talking about something like Melungeons? I will send you an article, the last paragraph has diseases.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michaele Swiderski" <msbs05@comcast.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > Joy, > > I think our Warrens may have had a little Cherokee. According to research > being done on the illness, it has been found to be passed through lines of > Cherokee families. The researcher has a theory they may have interbred with > the Spanish when they first came over and the illness was passed through > them. Many Spanish explorers were Sephardic converts to Christianity and > came over to this country. The study looked at Applachia families because > there is a higher rate of the illness there than elsewhere in the country. > They researched the genealogy and found no Jews, but did find every family > had Cherokee. Daniel Warren came from NC where there were still plenty of > Cherokees in his day. I have seen it stated several places that he may have > just worn the Warren name. I keep wondering if perhaps he had Cherokee in > his line somewhere and that is the source. My Grandmother on the other side > of my family was Cherokee, so there is no mystery on that side. Her mother > was 3/4 and my aunts and uncles have Indian cards. The illness has to be on > both sides and I can find no link on my LCT side. The Warrens are my best > guess since you also have the illness. I think genetic illness can provide > interesting genealogical clues to our past and are as valid as DNA to be > discussed on the site. > > Michaele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joy0420@charter.net> > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > According to research I've done into Familial Mediterranean Fever, it is > carried thru Armenians, Turks, and non-Ashkenazi Jews (Sephardic). The > Sephardic Jews were driven out of their region centuries ago, many migrating > thru Germany, etc. Allegedly, the "Black Dutch", as many families called > themselves, derived this name from the German Black Forest...could these > people have given up their religion b/c of persecution. It wouldn't be the > first time. > > I have 1 Warren cousin who was genetically tested for this - so could it > be? > > George, this is a bit "off subject" in a sense, but family history is not > just about dates and names. > > Any input out there? Joy > > > > > > From: Jmolitz@aol.com > > > Date: 2005/01/17 Mon PM 11:10:26 GMT > > > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > > > > > As I recall reading the book "Blood & Whiskey" The Life and Times of > Jack > > > Daniel by Peter Krass, I believe Mr. Krass wrote about a Jewish family > that > > > either lived in what became Moore CO or did business in the area. I > will have to > > > look it up and get back with you but you will not like what he wrote. > It seems > > > this "business person" had a house of ill repute. > > > > > > Julia > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:46:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, > > > joy0420@charter.net writes: > > > > > > << > > > > Historically speaking, like over a hundred years ago and more...were > there > > > > any Jewish families in Lincoln/Moore/Coffee/Giles county? Both sides > of my > > > > father's family were from this area. At whatever time in history was > there > > > > was some Jewish heritage in Lincoln Co.? According to the DNA with > > > > Geneology.com. (that my 89 year old father participated in) there was > some > > > > Jewish heritage in our family. I hope this does not open the can of > > > "worms" > > > > that my inquiry about Native American history in Lincoln County > caused a > > > > few years ago. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Carmen McDaniel Forbes > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > > > > > ============================== > > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. 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The term Melegun is referred to for the following Native Americans who married African Americans and Native Americans that married White people or Native American who married African American. Walter Plecker of Virginia used this term to describe the people above. He was the first vital records clerk of Virginia. Walter Plecker made a list of surnames he considered to be Melugeons. If you want to know about Melugeon's here are a few links. http://www.multiracial.com/letters/plecker2.html http://www.multiracial.com/letters/moore.html This link he mentions TN and letter Mr. Plecker wrote to the Secretary of State of TN Read and judge for yourself. My RAMSEY and WARE surnames are on his list. Which means they married either an African American or a Native American not sure which. My WARE and RAMSEY are from VA. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michaele Swiderski" <msbs05@comcast.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > Joy, > > I think our Warrens may have had a little Cherokee. According to research > being done on the illness, it has been found to be passed through lines of > Cherokee families. The researcher has a theory they may have interbred > with > the Spanish when they first came over and the illness was passed through > them. Many Spanish explorers were Sephardic converts to Christianity and > came over to this country. The study looked at Applachia families because > there is a higher rate of the illness there than elsewhere in the country. > They researched the genealogy and found no Jews, but did find every family > had Cherokee. Daniel Warren came from NC where there were still plenty of > Cherokees in his day. I have seen it stated several places that he may > have > just worn the Warren name. I keep wondering if perhaps he had Cherokee in > his line somewhere and that is the source. My Grandmother on the other > side > of my family was Cherokee, so there is no mystery on that side. Her mother > was 3/4 and my aunts and uncles have Indian cards. The illness has to be > on > both sides and I can find no link on my LCT side. The Warrens are my best > guess since you also have the illness. I think genetic illness can provide > interesting genealogical clues to our past and are as valid as DNA to be > discussed on the site. > > Michaele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <joy0420@charter.net> > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 2:28 PM > Subject: Re: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? > > >> According to research I've done into Familial Mediterranean Fever, it is > carried thru Armenians, Turks, and non-Ashkenazi Jews (Sephardic). The > Sephardic Jews were driven out of their region centuries ago, many > migrating > thru Germany, etc. Allegedly, the "Black Dutch", as many families called > themselves, derived this name from the German Black Forest...could these > people have given up their religion b/c of persecution. It wouldn't be the > first time. >> I have 1 Warren cousin who was genetically tested for this - so could it > be? >> George, this is a bit "off subject" in a sense, but family history is not > just about dates and names. >> Any input out there? Joy >> > >> > From: Jmolitz@aol.com >> > Date: 2005/01/17 Mon PM 11:10:26 GMT >> > To: TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: Re: r family. Re: [LCT] Jewish history/sources in LCT? >> > >> > As I recall reading the book "Blood & Whiskey" The Life and Times of > Jack >> > Daniel by Peter Krass, I believe Mr. Krass wrote about a Jewish family > that >> > either lived in what became Moore CO or did business in the area. I > will have to >> > look it up and get back with you but you will not like what he wrote. > It seems >> > this "business person" had a house of ill repute. >> > >> > Julia >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:46:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> > joy0420@charter.net writes: >> > >> > << >> > > Historically speaking, like over a hundred years ago and more...were > there >> > > any Jewish families in Lincoln/Moore/Coffee/Giles county? Both sides > of my >> > > father's family were from this area. At whatever time in history was > there >> > > was some Jewish heritage in Lincoln Co.? According to the DNA with >> > > Geneology.com. (that my 89 year old father participated in) there >> > was > some >> > > Jewish heritage in our family. I hope this does not open the can of >> > "worms" >> > > that my inquiry about Native American history in Lincoln County > caused a >> > > few years ago. >> > > Sincerely, >> > > Carmen McDaniel Forbes >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== >> > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== >> Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. 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Your Jones Rogers was in Lincoln Co., Tenn in the 1820 census living next to Isaac Rogers, Absolom Rogers thenBenjamin Beggarly and then Joseph Rogers. Next to Jones Rogers was living Sarah Swan. Sarah Swan and Jones Rogers wife Elizabeth were sisters. They were from Laurens Co., So. Car and Jones Rogers was there a had a power of attorney from Sarah Swan to act in her behalf in the settlement of an estate from Alexander ( I think that was his name but will have to look it up to be sure) Henry. And I am sure he would be representing his wife as well but we did not find that mentioned. Jones Rogers was still in Lincoln Co. Tenn in the 1830 census and he then went on to Illinois. I do not find Jones Rogers in the 1840 Tenn census. I am a direct descendant of the Joseph Rogers that was living next to them in the 1820 census of Lincoln Co. Joseph is my gr gr grandfather. I have just checked our census here in Greene Co and do not find him . There is a burial in the Mt. Comfort cemetery here and I think it was either the son or grandson of Matthew, My grandparents and gr grandparents are burried in the Mt. Comfort cemetery and I grew up about three to five miles from there. We will have to do more checking and get back to you. As quick as I get time I will run out to Mt. Comfort and see what I can find again. I do not know what the whether report is for Saturday--that is the first day I will be off work and if it is not too much weather maybe I can get out there then. I am almost sure the Jones Rogers that was in Phelps co is the parentage of these Rogers that are here. We have not ever been able to place them with our family here. In 1822 I think it is the right year Isaac Rogers is selling land to Jones Rogers in Lincoln Co. Tenn. In 1821 Isaac is selling land to Absalom Rogers and the total of these two sales by Isaac represents land that Isaac bought--it think it was the total of what he bought. In 1830 our Joseph as in Bedford Co., Tenn and then he and his brother-in-law Hosea Mullings came to Green Co., Mo. about 1835. The Rogers that were there together in Lincoln Co. all were born in So. Car and I have reason to believe in Laurens Co. but I am not positive of the proof that it was Laurens Co--however they were born in So. Car. Would you care to give me your telephone number and I could call you and discuss these Rogers. If the Isaac Rogers is the one in Laurens Co., So. Car in the 1790 census he had three boys and three girls. In the 1800 census he had five boys and three girls. I believe one of the boys born after 1800 was the Absalom that was next to him in Lincoln Co. Tenn. If our Joseph was a son then he is one of the boys that was born before 1790 for our Joseph was born in April 6 of 1788. He served in the war of 1812 from Lincoln Co. Tenn entering the war in Oct. 1813 and was discharged in Jan 1814. He died here in Greene Co May 3, 1851. He and his wife Nancy Mullings Rogers are burried at Union Grove cemetery in Polk Co., Mo just across the line from Greene Co. Joseph and Nancy's children were James M. born 1819\ William Carroll born 1820 Greenberry born 1821\ John Hardin born 1824 (my gr grandfater) Samuel E. born 1826 Thomas J. born about 1830 Hosea M. born about 1833 Martha Elizabeth born 1839. I think there was one that died young and he is buried at Union Grove and I think his name was Stephen Bedford--I would have to check the records to be able to give you an absolute on this. We have searched for 40 years trying to find the parents and siblings to our Joseph. This may be one of the siblings. Thank you Phoebe Rogers Lemons PS I have a sister that is doing our family and has quite a bit of the information in her data base. She lives in Tulsa, Ok. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Howe" <joanhowe@earthlink.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Jones Rogers or Rodgers > Greetings, > > I am researching Jones Rodgers (Rodgers) who lived in Tennessee, Illinois, and Phelps county, MO in early 1800's. He died around 1858 in Phelps County. His 8 children: > > Isabella > Alexander > Jonathan > Betsey (Elizabeth) > Matthew > Margaret > F. E. > Sarah > > Wife unknown. > > Thank you. > Joan Howe > > ______________________________