Sonja Do you have any thing on a Coleman Rodgers getting married in Lincoln Co. Norm Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace Ashley" <anneokle@odsy.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [LCT] Re:Marriage look-up > Sonja do you have any SAWYERS and WILSON'S there? > Thank you for sharing with all of us. > Grace Ashley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <cnfb@281.com> > To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 6:37 PM > Subject: [LCT] Re:Marriage look-up > > >> At 01:37 PM 4/8/2005, TNLINCOL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >I have a book with the WPA transcriptions of LCT marriages from 1838 - > 1860. >> >It gives the page number and who performed the marriage. Will do some > lookups >> >as time is available. >> > >> >Sonja Bedwell >> >smbedwell@aol.com >> >> >> Sonja, >> Will you please look for Mary Kilpatrick marriage about 1850-1854. >> Thanks, >> Faye Blacklock >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 >> >> >> >> ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== >> Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Please support the LCT Genealogical Society :-) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 > >

Sonja do you have any SAWYERS and WILSON'S there? Thank you for sharing with all of us. Grace Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: <cnfb@281.com> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 6:37 PM Subject: [LCT] Re:Marriage look-up > At 01:37 PM 4/8/2005, TNLINCOL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >I have a book with the WPA transcriptions of LCT marriages from 1838 - 1860. > >It gives the page number and who performed the marriage. Will do some lookups > >as time is available. > > > >Sonja Bedwell > >smbedwell@aol.com > > > Sonja, > Will you please look for Mary Kilpatrick marriage about 1850-1854. > Thanks, > Faye Blacklock > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005 > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Register your first lines in LCT: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Julia M, Susan, Moore's,. Here's another piece related to the above subject Dick Stewart ==================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Stuart" <kastuart@gmail.com> To: <STEWART-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [STEWART] STEWART and buying back personal belongings > Not all of these sales indicate a tragic situation; I have also seen > examples of sales where it was clear that there was a considerable estate > for the heirs to divide (but possibly a short-term need for cash). The sale > establishes a fair market value, and if particular items are > useful/desirable to a member of the family (or being fought over), they in > effect put the money up front to secure the things they want. > > Agreed, a VERY interesting genealogical resource, if you happen to come > across one. > > Karen Stuart > > > ==== STEWART Mailing List ==== > Interested in Genetic Genealogy? > Join the Stewart-DNA-L@rootsweb.com > > >

Mary K, - here's another related email from the Moore's. - also, does anyone have an answer to the Moore's question? - the original Julia Molitz email is pasted below. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin and Cornelia Moore" <fenenga@connpoint.net> To: <ALTUSCAL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:20 AM Subject: [ALTUSCAL] buying back personal belongings > how many states had "crying sales" and which states were they? > I have a regular intestate (husband died a few years after his wife) that > also gives this information as it lists what was sold at auction, whom to > and for how much. it doesn't make alot of sense to me in that the horses, a > certainly valuable comodity, were auctioned of for a pitance. but the stuff > they list gives me a fascinating peephole on my ancestors life. this was a > bit north, up in Missouri....in 1840. > > > ================================ > > Understand this. Even back then you could not die without paying the tax > > man will or no. Your property was sold off and your widow had to buy back > > even her own cooking utensils if there was no will. They had "crying > > sales". These sells are great for it will tell you what kind of property > > your ancestor had if there were book, stills, farm equipment or tools from > > other trades as well as to who bought this stuff and who was in charge of > > selling it and when it was sold. If there was any land, and sometimes > there > > was not, many farmers rented their land from others. > > ================================ > ==== ALTUSCAL Mailing List ==== > Tuscaloosa, Alabama AlGenWeb Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~altuscal > send comments to cgerdau@hotmail.com ============================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Molitz" <jmolitz@cox.net> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 9:58 PM Subject: [LCT] Fannin/Fanning & all Researchers > Below is some info on what will be in probate records as well as what I looked up for those researcher looking for info on Fanning > > This is not my line, just trying to help > > The will for Middleton Fanning that is in the Will book by Marsh is the son of Middleton and Daphnia so I have been told. The son's will was proven April 1861. > > However if you have access to the 1830 and 40 LCT census there is something interesting there. > > 1830 LCT census page 236 > > Fannen, Middleton > 1male 5-10, 1 male 30-40; 1 female 0-5, 1 female 5-10 and 1 female 30-40 > > Is this the father or son?????????? > > 1840 LCT census page 22 > Fannin, Middleton > 1 male under 5, 1 male 15-20; 1 female under 5, 1 female 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 30-40, 1 female 70-80 > > The 1840 census dates may be wrong but it looks like Daphnia is in LCT by 1840. It could be that Middleton SR. died someplace else before 1840 and Daphnia came to live with her son by 1840. > > However saying this if you will write to see if there are probate records at the Archives in Lincoln CO., TN there may be something there on Middleton SR. > > Understand this. Even back then you could not die without paying the tax man will or no. Your property was sold off and your widow had to buy back even her own cooking utensils if there was no will. They had "crying sales". These sells are great for it will tell you what kind of property your ancestor had if there were book, stills, farm equipment or tools from other trades as well as to who bought this stuff and who was in charge of selling it and when it was sold. If there was any land, and sometimes there was not, many farmers rented their land from others. > > If these records mentioned above survived they would be at the LCT Archives not the court house. Also they would be at the Archives in Nashville but you will pay much more for them. > > This is what I have learned from my great grandfathers will and probate records. He left his farm to his 8 named children although he had 10. This gave me proof of the story I was always told by my father that 2 sons ran off, so they were out of the will. The could sell their 1/8 part but the house belonged to his wife as well as enough stuff so she could live. Because of the will I looked up all the children for land deeds. I found out who bought some of this property and who lived north, south, east and west by deeds at the court house. Now I can place the farm exactly. > > Now what was more interesting was when his wife, REBECCA, died without a will. From her probate records I found out she had a guardian appointed for her 2 years before she died. Her youngest daughter MARY JULIA WRIGHT FOSTER & husband JAMES FOSTER lived with REBECCA WRIGHT and took care of her until her death in 1901 but they were not her guardians. The guardian had to account for every penny he spent of her money. He had to pay off her bill for a rug she bought from Paplanus store in Petersburg. Pay Julia for taken care of her mother. And get this she was on home made medication call "whiskey" for the last two years of her life. All this is in the guardian records which were part of her probate records. I also learned when things were sold off, again part of probate, that my grandfather JAMES FRANKLIN WRIGHT bought items but he was listed as DOCK WRIGHT. What a surprise to my sister and I for we had never heard that he had a nick name. > > So these are just some of the many things you can get for 25 cents a copy. A word of caution. These records can run over many years. Yes, just as today the wheels were slow. So they can consist of 10, 15 or more pages. > > Also it takes $12,000.00 to rebind the books at the LCT Archives. They are very large and heavy. The women that work at the Archives sure have their work cut out for they have to put them on the copy machine and reduce the size before they make a copy. Think about donation a couple of dollars for their time and to help defray the cost of rebinding these books. > > OK I'm done I will get off my soap box. > > Julia > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, send email to George@Waller.Org >

Dick, What does Julia M, Susan Moore's have to do with the above topic. I am confused and it doesn't take much. lol Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: "RMS" <rmstewart@myexcel.com> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 5:22 AM Subject: [LCT] Re: [STEWART] STEWART and buying back personal belongings > Julia M, Susan, Moore's,. > > Here's another piece related to the above subject > > Dick Stewart > > ==================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Stuart" <kastuart@gmail.com> > To: <STEWART-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: [STEWART] STEWART and buying back personal belongings > > >> Not all of these sales indicate a tragic situation; I have also seen >> examples of sales where it was clear that there was a considerable estate >> for the heirs to divide (but possibly a short-term need for cash). The > sale >> establishes a fair market value, and if particular items are >> useful/desirable to a member of the family (or being fought over), they >> in >> effect put the money up front to secure the things they want. >> >> Agreed, a VERY interesting genealogical resource, if you happen to come >> across one. >> >> Karen Stuart >> >> >> ==== STEWART Mailing List ==== >> Interested in Genetic Genealogy? >> Join the Stewart-DNA-L@rootsweb.com >> >> >> > > > > ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== > Register your first lines in LCT: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Sonja, If you see any Griffins before 1850, I thank you very much. Melissa Washington Co.,Tx.

http://home.earthlink/~haymarketmuseum/id4.html Click on RELIC on the first line See: Bull Run Regional Library sites in Prince William Co Virginia. Then scroll down to Volume 2, number 4, October issue, 2003. Robert Warren , owed money, December, 1776. He removed to TN about 15 years ago [ abt 1761] and was solvent at that time. Source; VG 23 P. 273 Claims of Cunn [Fauquier] I assume the numbers above are good at the Library of Virginia. Interestingly, my earliest proven White ancestor, William White Sr, died in 1797 at Haymarket, Prince William Co VA. His son, William White Jr was born Jan 10, 1755 at Prince William Co VA [He called it Fauquier Co in his Rev War pension papers S 1735 but it was still Prince William Co until 1759.] William White Jr died in May 1833 at Lincoln Co TN married to who I assume was his second wife, Elizabeth ___ born 1775 NC. They had 4 children born at Rowan/Stokes Co NC and the last child, William Clark White, born August 8, 1820 Lincoln Co TN who married 1st Polly Nixon, Dec 12, 1839, and md 2nd Elizabeth K. Wilkerson ,on May 20, 1843, both in Lincoln Co TN. Ginny Keefer " Remember me in the family tree- My name, my days, my strife: then I'll ride upon the wings of time and live an endless life". Goetsch

Hello Sonja, Could you please look up any Partain, Parden, Pardin, Pardon, Partin, Parton, Parten, Parduhn, Pardom (any spelling of this name) marriages? Thank you so much. Joy In a message dated 4/8/2005 2:38:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, TNLINCOL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I have a book with the WPA transcriptions of LCT marriages from 1838 - 1860. > It gives the page number and who performed the marriage. Will do some lookups > as time is available. > > Sonja Bedwell > smbedwell@aol.com >

Found these from Family Tree Maker Tn marriages cd: The gender of Mary M. Kilpatrick is female. Spouse: William Edmiston Marriage Date: Aug 26, 1853 County: Lincoln This record can be found at the County Court Records, Film # 0968562 - 0968564 The gender of Mary Kilpatrick is female. Spouse: J. M. Fulton Marriage Date: Jul 23, 1895 County: Lincoln This record can be found at the County Court Records, Film # 0968562 - 0968564 Cindy

At 01:37 PM 4/8/2005, TNLINCOL-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >I have a book with the WPA transcriptions of LCT marriages from 1838 - 1860. >It gives the page number and who performed the marriage. Will do some lookups >as time is available. > >Sonja Bedwell >smbedwell@aol.com Sonja, Will you please look for Mary Kilpatrick marriage about 1850-1854. Thanks, Faye Blacklock -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005

Thanks for your help. Sure do wish I could locate James and Druscilla. They had 4 children and I have them. Betty SMBEDWELL@aol.com wrote: Just the names and the date. James Geralds to Drucilla Greer, January 31, 1842. ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== To contact the list administrator, send email to George@Waller.Org ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Just the names and the date. James Geralds to Drucilla Greer, January 31, 1842.

I'm actually trying to make the connection between Martha E. Gray , dau. of Burgess and Elizabeth Gray of LCT, and the Martha E. Gray who married James Nathaniel Davis in Cape Girardeau Co. MO, 12 Jun 1861. Both were born in 1841, and the Gray in MO was born in TN, parents born in NC, which all matches. I was hoping to find a news item such as "local girls marries in Missouri" type of thing. (She is my g-g-grandmother.) Is there a way to access all the archives of the Fayetteville Observer? Martha Reed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Zielinski" <ZielinskiJ@edaw.com> To: <TNLINCOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [LCT] LCT Newspapers...and a note on Missouri Records > As I recall, there's not a lot of the VM left. Mostly the obits and > such come from the Fayetteville Observer and later papers, at any > rate...you didn't see much in the VM by comparison. I believe the FO > starts ~ 1850. It's pretty good about obits, even during those times > when they charged for them. Relative to, say, the Huntsville Times, the > FO is a wealth of obit finds...although people are often left out, I've > found many ancestors and ancillary relatives as well. > > BTW, all...many LCTers ended up in Missouri, as we've all seen. > Missouri just changed its law, and death records are going to be > available up to about 1950's. They are cataloguing and working on them > as we speak. MO was always a problem for researchers...now they'll be > at your fingertips in Jeff City or about $1 via e-mail or letter. > >>>> gypsy97@bellsouth.net 4/8/2005 12:17:09 PM >>>

As I recall, there's not a lot of the VM left. Mostly the obits and such come from the Fayetteville Observer and later papers, at any rate...you didn't see much in the VM by comparison. I believe the FO starts ~ 1850. It's pretty good about obits, even during those times when they charged for them. Relative to, say, the Huntsville Times, the FO is a wealth of obit finds...although people are often left out, I've found many ancestors and ancillary relatives as well. BTW, all...many LCTers ended up in Missouri, as we've all seen. Missouri just changed its law, and death records are going to be available up to about 1950's. They are cataloguing and working on them as we speak. MO was always a problem for researchers...now they'll be at your fingertips in Jeff City or about $1 via e-mail or letter. >>> gypsy97@bellsouth.net 4/8/2005 12:17:09 PM >>> I have been reading abstracts from The Village Messenger, Fayetteville, Tennessee, 1823-1828 on usgenweb/tn/lincoln/newspapers. Can someone tell me if additional Messenger archives exist, and how would I go about searching them? Is it possible to do so online, or is a trip to TN required? I'm searching for birth, marriage, obit and cemetery records for the CUNNINGHAM and GRAY families, LCT, for the approx. period 1835-1880. Thanks. Martha Reed Swannanoa, NC ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== Register your first lines in LCT: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/family.htm ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Elihu and Jessie were McGee's, but you saw this misspelling frequently. Elihu was my 3rd-great grandfather...you'll also see him as Elisha, Elijah, and what have you. There's great confusion, evidently between Elihu and another Elihu/Elijah/what have you who is indeed a McGeehee. >>> SMBEDWELL@aol.com 4/8/2005 11:34:34 AM >>> Page 274. John Hill to Catherine McGeehee, October 11, 1854 (License). Married October 12, 1854 by Nicholas Copeland, J.P. Page 95. Elihu McGeehee to Polly A. Leach, March 23, 1844 (License). Married on March 26, 1844 by John Woodruff. Page 361. Thomas Dickey to Elvera A. McGeehee, September 9, 1859 (License). Married on September 11, 1859 by J. H. Eslick, J. P. Page 85 . Jessie P. McGeehee to susan Waggoner, August 9, 1843. Married on August 10, 1843 by Samuel Boon, J. P. Page 325. Middlton (sic) McGeehee to Louisa Dennis, September 26, 1857. Married on September 27, 1857 by J. H. Eslick, J. P. Page 324. Thomas B.McGeehee to Mary Jane Rutledge, September 8, 1857. Married on September 10, 1857 by John Copeland. Page 54. Samuel Underwood to Louisa McGeehee, October 6, 1841. Married (illegible) 7, (illegible) by John Moorhead, J. P. Page 92. Harey (sic) Eslick to Lucinda McGeehee, January 5, 1844. Doesn't say if they actually got married. Page 75. Thomas M. Newman to Rinah McGeehee, November 13, 1842. married on December 10, 1842 by John King, J. P. Page 223. Robert McGehey to Elizabeth Shelton, November 5, 1851. Married on October 5, 1851 by Wm. H. Moores, J. P. (seal) Sonja Bedwell smbedwell@aol.com ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== Register yourself with other LCT researchers: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnlincol/volun.htm ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Sonja, Would you please look for the NOWELL and COUCH surnames? Thank you in advance for your help. Debbie NOWELL Amos debbieamos@adata.com _____

Thank you, Mr. Jim, For your clearification concerning this Elihu & Jessie and am happy to learn of your McGee kinship. Yes, on the numerous spelling variations of these surnames.........makes researching difficult for sure. I didn't see in the book information from Sonja, for My Husbands G-G-Grandparents marriage, [Richard L. McGehee to Nancy Fanning in LCT ca. 1838/9], which I thought would be a given. The Parents of Richard L. are our elusive BRICK WALL. In closing, wondering IF you have done the DNA that Dean McGee heads up? Fondly, Bobbie in TX Jim Zielinski wrote: >Elihu and Jessie were McGee's, but you saw this misspelling frequently. >Elihu was my 3rd-great grandfather...you'll also see him as Elisha, >Elijah, and what have you. There's great confusion, evidently between >Elihu and another Elihu/Elijah/what have you who is indeed a McGeehee. > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 4/7/2005

I have been reading abstracts from The Village Messenger, Fayetteville, Tennessee, 1823-1828 on usgenweb/tn/lincoln/newspapers. Can someone tell me if additional Messenger archives exist, and how would I go about searching them? Is it possible to do so online, or is a trip to TN required? I'm searching for birth, marriage, obit and cemetery records for the CUNNINGHAM and GRAY families, LCT, for the approx. period 1835-1880. Thanks. Martha Reed Swannanoa, NC

Page 23. William H. Davis to Amelia A. Turney, December 12, 1839. Does not say if they actually married. Page 332. J. R. Nelson to Jane Turney. January 7 1858. Married on January 7, 1858 by J. B. Warren, M. G. Page 223. Jno. P. Turney to Louisa Beck, October 29, 1851. Married on October 30, 1851 by Thomas Child, G. M. Page 207. C. G. Tucker married to Nancy W. Turney, January 1, 1851 by R. W. Walton, J. P. Sonja Bedwell smbedwell@aol.com

Page 274. John Hill to Catherine McGeehee, October 11, 1854 (License). Married October 12, 1854 by Nicholas Copeland, J.P. Page 95. Elihu McGeehee to Polly A. Leach, March 23, 1844 (License). Married on March 26, 1844 by John Woodruff. Page 361. Thomas Dickey to Elvera A. McGeehee, September 9, 1859 (License). Married on September 11, 1859 by J. H. Eslick, J. P. Page 85 . Jessie P. McGeehee to susan Waggoner, August 9, 1843. Married on August 10, 1843 by Samuel Boon, J. P. Page 325. Middlton (sic) McGeehee to Louisa Dennis, September 26, 1857. Married on September 27, 1857 by J. H. Eslick, J. P. Page 324. Thomas B.McGeehee to Mary Jane Rutledge, September 8, 1857. Married on September 10, 1857 by John Copeland. Page 54. Samuel Underwood to Louisa McGeehee, October 6, 1841. Married (illegible) 7, (illegible) by John Moorhead, J. P. Page 92. Harey (sic) Eslick to Lucinda McGeehee, January 5, 1844. Doesn't say if they actually got married. Page 75. Thomas M. Newman to Rinah McGeehee, November 13, 1842. married on December 10, 1842 by John King, J. P. Page 223. Robert McGehey to Elizabeth Shelton, November 5, 1851. Married on October 5, 1851 by Wm. H. Moores, J. P. (seal) Sonja Bedwell smbedwell@aol.com