Hi Tom, We have corresponded on other things before. Saw your DNA quandary and thought I would suggest you enter your DNA values on the ysearch.org site. From there you can check for close matches on other lines. My husband is adopted, knew who his father was so he entered on their surname project. We have not received his 12-37 marker results yet, but think we are about to cause a problem for that surname project as far back as 1800 on that leg of the surname. Several of the Looney family did not match and they have found a couple of close matches with other surnames that would come into play during the 1800's. Ysearch.org is sponsored by FTDNA, the company doing the DNA samples. Nita Fry, Flynn, TX In a message dated 7/16/2006 4:52:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 7/16/2006 3:52:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Bobbie (Richardson) Spiegel on the Coastal Bend of TX Hi Bobbie: Thanks for your response to my posting about my KING and CLOUD family lines in TN and in AL. Yes, I have submitted my DNA to the outfit in Houston that processes and posts DNA data. So far, there have been no matches against other posted KING lines. But, from time to time, I check to see if my status has changed. I do hope that I will have a DNA match some day. I just hope it happens soon, since at 86, my available days for waiting are going by all too fast! Best wishes. Tom, Sr. from No. VA.

In a message dated 7/16/2006 3:52:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Bobbie (Richardson) Spiegel on the Coastal Bend of TX Hi Bobbie: Thanks for your response to my posting about my KING and CLOUD family lines in TN and in AL. Yes, I have submitted my DNA to the outfit in Houston that processes and posts DNA data. So far, there have been no matches against other posted KING lines. But, from time to time, I check to see if my status has changed. I do hope that I will have a DNA match some day. I just hope it happens soon, since at 86, my available days for waiting are going by all too fast! Best wishes. Tom, Sr. from No. VA.

Awe, Mr. Tom, My Father lived to be 98 1/2 to the day, So hopefully, YOU have plenty of time left for a DNA match to come through for you. I know zero about DNA, but surely there must be other "souls" in your lineage to compare? I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for something to 'happen' to hurry up this DNA of yours. Fondly, Bobbie P.S. You are so very welcome. I forgot to say that!+ [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/16/2006 3:52:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Bob >

For Donald E King and Philip Nichols Hi Don and Phil: My earliest fully documented KING ancestor was Ephraim KING of Lincoln Co. TN. There were several lines of early (1700-1800's) KING families in the US that used Ephraim as a given name. I think I checked out about 10 different lines of KING's for a connection to my line of KING's who apparently migrated to TN by way of NC from VA. After many years of research on my early great-great grandfather Ephraim KING of Lincoln Co. TN, I have not been able to document exactly when and where my ancestors migrated to the USA. My best guess is that another Ephraim KING of long Island, NY, who was evacuated to the Boston area during the Rev. War, may have been my elusive immigrant ancestor to the USA. But, the use of Ephraim as a given name was very popular during the 1700-1800's in the USA; so who knows the answer to your questions? Oral Family history indicates that my KING ancestors migrated to TN from VA by way of Wilmington, NC and Lincolnton, NC. But I really don't know when and where they migrated in to the USA. Most of the genealogical information in my book, From Wagons To Spaceships, is about my southern ancestors. However, a few later generations migrated to northern and eastern US location. Several KING and CLOUD ancestors migrated westward, as did my parents who migrated to from AL to TX; then back to TN and AL where both died from TB. I migrated from Houston, TX to CA and several other US and international locations prior to my retirement, then back to CA; and more recently to AZ and VA because of family health problems. Don, I am sorry I can't answer you question about my early US ancestors. Tom King, Sr. of northern VA.

I have a DNA question. I have a male Caruthers who is willing to do a DNA test, but how do I go about this? Help please. Thanks. Betty McCollum

Any McDaniels in the Rolling Fork Baptist Church records? Carmen McDaniel Forbes At 10:59 PM 7/11/2006, you wrote: >Does anyone have access to the baptism records of >Joseph Stewart (one baptised in 1808 and one in 1817) >and James Stewart (baptised in 1814) in Boiling Form >Baptist Church in Lincoln County TN? > >I would like to see if the church records state the >name of the parents. > >I found the names recorded in a book in the Dallas >Public Library, but do not have access to research the >records. > >Thank you. > >[email protected] > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== >Please capitalize SURNAMES in your posts. > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

SC Petty <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone have access to the baptism records of Joseph Stewart (one baptised in 1808 and one in 1817) and James Stewart (baptised in 1814) in Boiling Form Baptist Church in Lincoln County TN? I would like to see if the church records state the name of the parents. I found the names recorded in a book in the Dallas Public Library, but do not have access to research the records. Thank you. [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== TNLINCOL Mailing List ==== Please capitalize SURNAMES in your posts. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Dear List, Since I'm researching a WILLIAM STEWARD, who came to Lincoln Co. in about 1815, where is Boiling Fork Baptist Church located within Lincoln Co.?? My William, who was born ca. 1785, lived near present day Mimosa around 1815. Thanks for your help. Randy Stewart --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Does anyone have access to the baptism records of Joseph Stewart (one baptised in 1808 and one in 1817) and James Stewart (baptised in 1814) in Boiling Form Baptist Church in Lincoln County TN? I would like to see if the church records state the name of the parents. I found the names recorded in a book in the Dallas Public Library, but do not have access to research the records. Thank you. [email protected] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Just a reminder to let you know the next meeting of the Middle Tennessee Genealogical Society will be Saturday, July 15, 2006 at 1 p.m. We will meet at the Metro Archives, 3801 Green Hills Village Drive, Nashville, TN. Metro Archives is in the Green Hills Shopping Mall area. Chuck Sherrill, MTGS Journal editor, former Tennessee State Library & Archives staffer and Director of the Brentwood Public Library, charts a genealogist's course through the complex records of Tennessee land grants, focusing on examples of original grants, entries, surveys and warrants and the variety of genealogical information contained in these records. This will be a very informative talk for both beginners and advanced researchers. Refreshments follow the meeting. Katheryne Cowan MTGS Webmaster http://www.mtgs.org <http://www.mtgs.org/> http://www.rootsweb.com/~tntgs

At 10:39 PM 7/9/2006, Carmen Forbes wrote: >Has anyone done anything about the widows/children of Revolutionary >soldiers who resided in Lincoln Co. Tenn. ? Are there any records?I >can attest to David Baggerly and William McKee. David fought for Md. >and William for N.C. >Sincerely, >Carmen McDaniel Forbes

Saw this on AOL news: Tuesday, 07/04/06 'Kings Mountain Messenger' bravery remembered by few Long trek reassured Continental Congress By KATE HOWARD Staff Writer PETERSBURG, Tenn. — Joseph Greer's grave doesn't look like that of a hero. The pile of broken monuments that mark his final resting place in this small Lincoln County town offer no hint of the role Greer played more than 225 years ago in gaining America's freedom from British rule. Any explanation of the 600 miles he trekked to tell of a patriot victory in the Carolina wilderness has been lost to time, erosion or vandals. (http://gcirm.tennessean.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/news.tennessean.com/local/inside/index.html/19103 01681/300x250_1/OasDefault/nelsonMazda-050806-island/I-NelsonMazda-050506.gif/ 63646263373434333434623161336430) Historians say that much of Tennessee was settled by Revolutionary War soldiers, like Greer, who were paid in land. Although there are probably thousands of native Tennesseans who are descended of the soldiers, the battles of the Civil War were geographically closer and more recent. With every passing generation, interest in Revolutionary War genealogy seems to wane, said Bettye Silvey, regent of the Kings Mountain chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution. "There's really not probably as much interest here in the Revolutionary War as the Civil War history," she said. "So many of us are getting older." Historians say Greer arrived in Philadelphia on Nov. 7, 1780, after a dangerous, monthlong expedition and told of an American win at the Battle of Kings Mountain. The news re-energized a downtrodden Continental Congress, and the win was considered a turning point in the quest for American independence. A marker detailing Greer's journey is now displayed at the Lincoln County Courthouse in nearby Fayetteville to protect it from vandalism. Few descendants still live in the area where Greer and his family settled after the end of the Revolutionary War. Over the years, even fewer landowners have taken up the cost to maintain the graves of Greer, his second wife and youngest son that sit in an open field off a gravel road near Greer's former home. While the man dubbed the "Kings Mountain Messenger" is one of more than 100 Revolutionary War soldiers buried in Lincoln County, a local genealogist said that most gravestones have stayed in much better condition than his. "These graves are like old houses," Silvey said. "If the family doesn't live in it and die in it, it falls apart." The DAR chapter hopes to restore the graves within the year, Silvey said. The site is owned by a local man who is not a descendant, but has given the OK for improvements to the site, Silvey said. Mark Whitaker of Petersburg is one of the few descendants left in town, a member of the fifth generation of Greer's family. He can point to the gravel road that marked the beginning of Greer's land here, the hill where it ended and all the places in between where some of his 11 children settled. Greer passed down more than 5,000 acres of what was then Williamson and Rutherford counties to his children. But the Civil War and economic troubles that followed forced Greer's descendants to sell off their land, and Greer's crypt has fallen victim to the changing hands of land ownership. "There was nobody left to maintain the gravesite," Whitaker said. "There aren't many descendants left around here." Whitaker said he takes care of another family cemetery a few miles away because it was deeded to Greer's descendants. He cleaned it up, fenced it off and made it his business to learn the stories of most everyone there. He figures that cemetery's appearance will die with him, once there's no one left who cares enough to keep it up. It's a commitment nobody has made in recent years to Greer's plot, although Whitaker visits it often. "I'm not sure anyone wants to do it," he said. "Guess it's just me." But the DAR plans to take up the cause. Silvey envisions the Greer plot with a wrought-iron fence and a small parking lot for visitors. She occasionally talks to students about Revolutionary War history, but she thinks more people would take an interest in Greer's history if they could see the grave firsthand — the way it was intended. "We want to restore it to just how it originally looked," Silvey said. Whitaker continues to share the story of his ancestor to anyone who asks, telling of Greer's physical greatness at 6-foot-7 and what he sees as his lingering historical greatness. "I think this is the most important battle because they were all ready to quit until this man reported to congress and saved the day," Whitaker said. "There might be no nation without this battle." • (javascript:NewWindow(540,775,'/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=DN&Date=20060704&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=607040352&Ref=AR');) Mark Whitaker looks at the gravesite of Joseph Greer, an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War. The gravesite is on someone else's property and has not been maintained. (KATE HOWARD / THE TENNESSEAN) (javascript:NewWindow(540,775,'/apps/pbcs.dll/misc?url=/misc/zoom.pbs&Site=DN&Date=20060704&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=607040352&Ref=V2');) A historic marker commemorating Joseph Greer's role in the Battle of Kings Mountain stands in the town square in Petersburg. (KATE HOWARD / THE TENNESSEAN) ____________________________________ JOSEPH GREER After the battle on Kings Mountain in what is now Blackburg, S.C., Joseph Greer was picked to deliver news of the victory to the Continental Congress in Philadelphia. Historians say he made most of the 600-mile, one-month trip on foot with just a compass to guide him, passing through hostile territory on the way. The war for control of America had reached a stalemate in the north in early 1780, and England's military strategy was to move into the Southern colonies and increase their troop size before returning north. Historians say the October battle halted the British advance into the Carolinas, changing the course of history and pushing the Continental Army toward its eventual victory. Nobody in the congress knew about the battle or knew of Greer until he arrived, historians said. Greer, at least 6-foot-7, had to force his way in on Nov. 7, 1780, to tell the tale of the battle, earning the nickname of the "Kings Mountain Messenger." Greer moved to what is now East Tennessee with land given to him as payment from North Carolina's military officials after the war. He later bought up to 10,000 acres of land near Petersburg in Middle Tennessee. A widower, Greer met and married Mary Ann Harmon in 1808 after moving to Petersburg. They had 11 children before his death in 1831, at the age of 77. SOURCE: Tennessee Daughters of the American Revolution research; U.S. Department of the Interior documents; writings of Mark Whitaker, a Greer descendant Kate Howard can be reached at 726-8968 or [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) .

I am forwarding this for Peggy. --George ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: "Peggy Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Joseph Greer Date sent: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 17:41:22 -0500 George, Check the address out below to see if you can access this address. If so would you sent this message to the site? Thanks Peggy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- In the Nashville Tennesseean on July 4th there was an article about Joseph Greer. After the battle of Kings Mountain he was picked to deliver the news of the victory to the Continental Congress in Philadelphia. He did this and became known as the "Kings Mountain Messenger". To access this article copy and paste the following address: http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060704/NEWS01/60704 0352 ------- End of forwarded message -------

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Would the listowner of this site please e-mail me privately? Thank you. Peggy

Hi List, I need a lookup, in Land Deeds Vol 2 on Samuel Carter.....hoping someone has these books and can help me out here. Thanks Cindy

MTGS Messenger Vol. 1, No. 2 Vance Little, Editor June, 2006 July Meeting to Feature Land Records. The next meeting of the Middle Tennessee Genealogical Society will be Saturday, July 15, 2006, at 1:00 p.m. at the Metro Archives, 3801 Green Hills Village Drive. Please note the change of venue. The Metro Archives is in the old Green Hills Library in the Green Hills Mall area. It is across the parking lot from the popular eatery, the Cheesecake Factory. Charles A. Sherrill will present a program called "On Solid Ground: Finding Ancestors in Tennessee Land Records." Chuck is Director of the Brentwood Public Library and a well known speaker in genealogical circles. He serves as editor of the MTGS quarterly Journal. He was formerly a staff member at the TSL&A. Tennessee land records are a gold mine of information, but they are complicated and convoluted. Chuck will guide us through the maze of legalese. Remember that our land laws came from the English Common Law. There was nothing more important to our Anglican ancestors that keeping land in the blood line. Tracing the devolution of property is usually a straight shot to a sanguine ancestor. It is a program that is not to be missed. November Seminar on Immigration Records. Mark your calendar for the annual MTGS all-day seminar on Saturday, November 18, 2006. It will be at the Brentwood Library. Guest lecturer with be noted genealogist John P. Colletta. The theme of this year's seminar will be "Finding Your Immigrant Ancestor." A Neat Idea. Libraries are always coming up with ideas to facilitate genealogical research. The Wayne County, Kentucky, Public Library takes the cake this time. They are having a genealogical "Lock In." On July 21, 2006, and Sept. 2, 2006, after the library closes at 4:00 p.m., genealogical researchers can work an additional four hours until 8:00 p.m. Seating is limited to 30 researchers. Call early for reservations. Telephone number is 606-348-8565. It is not necessary to wear a black striped uniform. Williamson County Has New Archives. Williamson County has a brand new Archives and Museum. Located in former Public Library building at Five Points in Franklin, it is spotlessly clean and inviting. The Williamson County Archives has a reputation for being one of the most user friendly archives around. The staff has cataloged records in sensible groupings making them easy to find. Marriage records and land records have been copied and cataloged in easy to use notebooks. Probate records have been digitized and can be easily accessed on one of the many computers available for researchers. Pay Williamson County Archivist Louise Lynch a visit. There is a lot of information in her record books, but even more information is in the head of this Williamson County native. Alford Association to Meet. The Alford American Family Association will hold its 19th annual Meeting and Family Reunion in Nashville October 6-8, 2006. For details contact Gil Alford, Jr. He is a new member of MTGS. Check out http://www.alfordassociation.org Dues are Due. Don't forget your dues. They are now due and payable. They are $25.00. If you dilly-dally until after June 30, 2006, they will go up to $30.00. The fiscal year of MTGS runs from June 1 to May 31. E-Mail. Send us your e-mail address to facilitate communication and save money! [email protected]

Would love to find the marriage records for any Webster guys especially named andrew or James from mid to late 1899`s I think mine went into Giles co. later. Thanks for help in the past. Sue

Dear List, Buried in the Wilson Cemetery, among many others, are: Robert Wilson May 29, 1778 Nov 9, 1841 Hannah B., wife of Robert Wilson Nov 19, 1795 Mar 21, 1881 Nearby are: Clinton Wilson Jul 29, 1813 Apr 12, 1885 James P. Son of J. B. & HANNA B. Conner Sep 20, 1818 Mar 7, 1838 When it comes to genealogy I am not much of a fan of coincidence. The fact that buried near Hanna B. (Paul) Wilson is James P. Conner, the son of J. B. and HANNA B. Conner, makes me wonder if Hanna B. Paul was first married to J. B. Conner. Would anyone have any information as to whether Mrs. Hannah B. Conner and Mrs. Hannah B. (Paul) Wilson are the same person? Finally, would anyone know who Clinton Wilson is? Jim Danley Vista, CA

Dear List, In the 12th Civil District in the 1870 LCT census is a Jas. W. Wilson and his wife A. J. Tate -- HH 62-66. They married 17 Mar 1856 in LCT. James W. Wilson is 37 years old. And A. J. Tate is 33 years old. In HH 64-68 is R(obert) W. Wilson who is 40 years old -- the son of Robert Wilson (1778-1841) and Hannah B. Paul (1765-1881). James W. Wilson is not a son of Robert Wilson (1778-1841). That's because in his will, dated 17 Sep 1839 (proven in Dec 1841), Robert W. Wilson is named as his youngest son. I am interested in the parents/ancestry of both James W. Wilson and his wife, A. J. Tate. Jim Danley Vista, CA

Betty, Sorry do not have any info on this line in my records. I have a Samuel K. but have no dates on him. Julia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doyle Landers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [LCT] Obituaries Bedord CO., TN > Julia I have Samuel Aaron and Martha Ann McHaffey Gambill as his parents > Betty