I posted this for the benefit of my own list researchers with Cherokee questions, however since the woman who filed the ap below lived her latter life in Houston Co. and was from Humphrey Co. it probably would be good to post for you all. Folks, It seems many do not understand the wealth of information that can be found on a Guion Miller roll ap, whether or not the claim was accepted or denied (and understand many were denied because their folks had left tribal grounds either prior to US Government census taking among them, or because they objected to white man roll-taking among them). So acceptance or denial is not the point...the point is that a wealth of genealogical information can come to us simply because people who KNEW their ancestor filled out the report. Also...if there is ONE ap...there are probably many from cousins of your ancestor with collaborating stories to tell. I have had so many questions about these Miller aps, and about tracing roots with these legends in general that I have decided to post the ap of my own grandfather's grandmother, Rebecca Victoria Hatcher Medcalf. Here tis...and may you see how valuable one of these can be if you have one to look up: Applied to Guion Miller roll 1906-1909. #19673, claimed through John Hatcher case 10798, Hatcher-Curtis group. Husband William Wallace's application 19672. They were living in Erin, TN at the time. Their claim referred to the John Hatcher case 10798, filed by James A. Curtis of Dickson, TN and called the Hatcher-Curtis group. Insert (my personal notation) Victoria was a Cherokee, claimed through John Hatcher her ancestor who left NC for TN in 1835. She along with 120 other claimants was denied. Tintype of Victoria definitely shows native heritage, as does family legends of Hatcher family. My grandmother, Icie Warfield, told me herself that as a young woman (when she first married my grandfather, James Greene, Victoria's grandson) she was told that Victoria's grandfather was a Cherokee chief, and that she had seen a tribal outfit in an old trunk. -jan Victoria's application to Miller role lists following answers to questions: Were they (parents) ever enrolled for annuities, land, or other benefits? If so, state when and where: "I think my Uncle Robert B. Hatcher enrolled me at Waggoner 87 (? date unclear). Have you ever been enrolled for annuities, land, or other benefits? "I think I was enrolled at Wagonner (unclear word) by my Uncle Robt. B. Hatcher." To expedite identification, claimants should give the full English and Indian names, if possible, of their paternal and maternal ancestors back to 1835: "My father Wm. Hatcher was a son of John Hatcher who came from N.C. in the year 1810 who was an Eastern Cherokee Indian." Remarks (under this head the applicant may give any additional information that he believes will assist in proving his claims.) "I have been informed that some of my relations in Texas have obtained certificates of citizenship and are now living on their claims in the Indian Territory." This affidavit was withnessed by C.S. Winstead and J.M. Dyer, stating that they had known V.A. Medcalf for thirty years. The application was dated March 26, 1907. John 3:16 Future Resident, artist, scribe-in-residence, general troublemaker of the Old Genealogists Home, best kept secret in America Listowner: Tnstewar-L@rootsweb.com Tnstewar-D@rootsweb.com Listowner: afternoonrocking@egroups.com