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My ggrandparents- Joseph Jefferson Hammer b.1835 d.1879 married to Margaret Trumon, their son, my ggrandfather William A Hammer b.1879 KY, married 1899 in Centerville, Hickman Cty. Mary Belle Frazier b.1884 (she had a brother named Maxie). Any info appreciated. Joyce Hammer Wilson wwckjw@centurytel.net

Per Ericka: I have a George Moore married to Nancy Grimes, from that area but moved to AK. I have: George Moore (1895-1961) s/o James W Moore and Nancy Cobb I have more info on ancestors if this is your George Moore. Shirley Scott If not reply onlist, PLEASE reply to: shirleyscott@juno.com My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Per Erika's message: ? Whitwell m Elizabeth Pace I have the following: Elizabeth Ina Pace (1844-?) m c1861 Pleasant W Whitwell Child: Felix Carrol Whitwell I have more infor on Felix and his descendants if anyone is interested. Shirley Scott If not reply onlist, PLEASE reply to: shirleyscott@juno.com My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html

Hi Shirley I have an Eva Anderson that is married to Willard Hensley, but that is Lewis County, not far from Hickman Trent Anderson married to Mary Sue Grimes, in the Lewis/Hickman Area I have a George Moore married to Nancy Grimes, from that area but moved to AK Arminta Moore M. George Cotton, moved to AK ? Whitwell m. Elizabeth Pace Hope you find what you are looking for!! Erika in MI

Hello. I'm Shirley and I'm researching the following names in the Hickman Co TN area. Would like to exchange info with others researching these same names. ANDERSON CURRY HUFSTEDLER MOORE SALMON WHITWELL Shirley Scott If not replying onlist, PLEASE reply to: shirleyscott@juno.com My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In 1808, Barton Scroggins (probably then a resident of Dickson County) received a grant of land in Hickman County, as described below. The land was apparently sold by the sheriff to Asa Schute in 1809, and Schute sold it to James Lewis in 1813. My question is, can anyone familiar with the area (1) describe this location in modern-day terms and (2) tell me if it is within the current boundaries of Hickman County, or if not, which present-day county? "50 acres in Hickman County in the First District on Indian Creek waters of Tumbling Creek of Duck River. Beginning at a white oak on the bluff of Indian Creek on Edward Stringers North West corner running East with said Stringers line twenty poles to a dogwood; thence West crossing Indian Creek at sixteen poles in all eighty five poles an done half pole to a dogwood and sourwood on the West side of a hill; thence South one hundred and two poles crossing Indian Creek at one hundred and three poles in all one hundred and five poles to a dogwood and ironwood on the north boundary of John Johnson's occupancy survey; thence East with said Johnsons line crossing Indian Creek at two poles in all forty poles to said Johnsons North East corner and Edward Stringers North West corner; thence with said Stringers line East twenty poles; thence North with said Stringers line forty four poles to the beginning. Survey July 20, 1808"

Seeking information on the ancestors and descendants of: James Salmon b 1775 Scotland d 1826 Hickman Co TN m 1800 Montgomery Co TN Nancy Story b 1785 VA d ? Newton Co AR d/o Daniel Story and Elizabeth Speed If responding offlist, please respond to shirleyscott@juno.com . Thank you. Shirley Scott Reply to: shirleyscott@juno.com My Family Tree: http://www.angelfire.com/mo/winkeler/index.html ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am looking for a lookup for Timothy Sugg/Suggs I would like to know how many children etc it lists in this census I know that it does not list names but ages would be just as helpful.I really appreciate it so I can hopeful knock down this brick wall.Thank you very much. Staci K Columbus Ohio

>Sorry, didn't realize I'd leave out the mailing list by going to another >e-mail box. Here is what I wrote: I also have the Spence's Hickman County book, so don't spend a lot of time looking up Joel C, but thanks. I have little on Hobbs/Potter, but I'll give you what I have and if you can add anything, please let me know. The only reason I place the lines together is because of copies of deeds I found in Hickman County. I have a deed dated 8 Feb 1847 between Aaron Potter and J. C. Hobbs of of Hickman Co to Elizabeth Potter of Hickman for two tracts of land on the waters of Beaver Creek Branch of Piney River containing two fifty acre tracts of land. It is witnessed by Joel H Potter and Levi C Ragsdale. Second, I have deed dated 13 Febuary 1823 from Joel Hobbs of Hickman to William Potter of Hickman for 35 acres on the East bank of Piney River up tan troughs hollow. Witnessed by J. L. White, Conelius D White (our Joel's brother in law) and Joel C Hobbs (see note below). Any other info I have is from census books (I haven't checked films since this is not our main branch) and from postings on web sites. That is how I found the Ruth Hobbs/Aaron Potter connection. Do you have any marriage record sources? Note: There are several Joel Hobbs in Hickman County and other TN areas. In 1820 there was an older Joel, and John and William Hobbs in Hickman. Our Joel C was born 1804. Ther was a Joel A who died in 1848 in Humphreys County where our line later lived (may be son of our Joel C). And there was a Joel C Hobbs who had a wife in Lincoln County in 1830's and sons who had land in Hickman County around our Joel C Hobbs. I am trying to determine if the Joel C in Lincoln came from Hickman and if our Joel C Hobbs is his son or nephew. It seems logical since Ruth later went to Lincoln County before she died. I found a Hickman County deed from Joel Hobbs to Joel C Hobbs, witnessed by Joel Hobbs, Jr., so it is confusing. It was conveyed about he time our Joel would have married. Which one is the father of Ruth?? If she was born about 1802 she could be sister of my Joel C Hobbs or cousin. Do you know where she was born--that might help. It seems I have more questions than answers. Miriam _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

>From: "Michelle Haley" <mhaley2000@mediaone.net> >Reply-To: TNHICKMA-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNHICKMA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [TNHICKMA] Hickman County Hobbs' >Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 22:11:34 -0400 > >Hi, Miriam, I am from the Aaron Potter and Ruth Hobbs line.Through their >son >Joel. I would love any info on the Hobbs/Potter clan. I also have the >Hickman Co TN 1807-1993 book and Spence History of Hickman Co. Spence's >book >mentions a Joel C. Hobbs as a captain in the Hickman Co militia in 1832 and >as a major in 1836. I'll check my other Hickman books on thurs. Take Care, >Todd Haley Todd, thanks for the reply. I don't have much on the Hobbs/Potter family, but am glad to share what I have. I'll e-mail from my AOL mamirho box so I can write off line. Miriam > >-----Original Message----- >From: Miriam Hobbs [mailto:miriamhobbs@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:41 PM >To: TNHICKMA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TNHICKMA] Hickman County Hobbs' > > >My name is Miriam and I am researching my husband's family which is Hobbs. >The earliest we can verify his family is on the 1830 Hickman County Census >where Joel C Hobbs was living with his new wife Rosannah White Hobbs and >several children, some of which may have been children of other family >members because Joel and Rosannah are too young to have had them all. This >is my husbands gggrandfather. Family legend says Joel's father was John >Hobbs from North Carolina and I am trying to verify if this is the truth, >or >if it is the Joel C Hobbs or Joel A Hobbs who were also in the area at the >time. > >Our Joel C Hobbs' children were William Washington Hobbs, Mary, Jesse, >David, James, Narcissa and Sarah. There may have been others and we are >still searching. The family eventually moved to Humphreys County where >the >next generations were born. My husband and I found the old family >graveyard >in a pasture in Humphreys County with Joel and Rosannah's markers and some >of the children. I am trying to place a Choate and Jakson (no c) who were >also in this graveyard (which has fewer than 12 markers and is presumably >only family). > >I have visited Vernon (what is left) and been to the Hickman Courthouse and >several others in TN searching and have a number of deeds involving Hobbs >and other lines, including Potter, Hunter and Dobbins. I am finding >marriages between the families and trying to establish relationship to >ours. > I feel like I have a giant jigsaw puzzle with 10,000 piece and no clue >what it is supposed to look like--but you may know that feeling. > >I look forward to sharing information. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== TNHICKMA Mailing List ==== >For problems, questions or instructions, >email list admistrator: Gordon at gmharbison@mediaone.net > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > >==== TNHICKMA Mailing List ==== >Practice random acts of genelogical kindness > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi, Miriam, I am from the Aaron Potter and Ruth Hobbs line.Through their son Joel. I would love any info on the Hobbs/Potter clan. I also have the Hickman Co TN 1807-1993 book and Spence History of Hickman Co. Spence's book mentions a Joel C. Hobbs as a captain in the Hickman Co militia in 1832 and as a major in 1836. I'll check my other Hickman books on thurs. Take Care, Todd Haley -----Original Message----- From: Miriam Hobbs [mailto:miriamhobbs@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:41 PM To: TNHICKMA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHICKMA] Hickman County Hobbs' My name is Miriam and I am researching my husband's family which is Hobbs. The earliest we can verify his family is on the 1830 Hickman County Census where Joel C Hobbs was living with his new wife Rosannah White Hobbs and several children, some of which may have been children of other family members because Joel and Rosannah are too young to have had them all. This is my husbands gggrandfather. Family legend says Joel's father was John Hobbs from North Carolina and I am trying to verify if this is the truth, or if it is the Joel C Hobbs or Joel A Hobbs who were also in the area at the time. Our Joel C Hobbs' children were William Washington Hobbs, Mary, Jesse, David, James, Narcissa and Sarah. There may have been others and we are still searching. The family eventually moved to Humphreys County where the next generations were born. My husband and I found the old family graveyard in a pasture in Humphreys County with Joel and Rosannah's markers and some of the children. I am trying to place a Choate and Jakson (no c) who were also in this graveyard (which has fewer than 12 markers and is presumably only family). I have visited Vernon (what is left) and been to the Hickman Courthouse and several others in TN searching and have a number of deeds involving Hobbs and other lines, including Potter, Hunter and Dobbins. I am finding marriages between the families and trying to establish relationship to ours. I feel like I have a giant jigsaw puzzle with 10,000 piece and no clue what it is supposed to look like--but you may know that feeling. I look forward to sharing information. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ==== TNHICKMA Mailing List ==== For problems, questions or instructions, email list admistrator: Gordon at gmharbison@mediaone.net ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

My name is Miriam and I am researching my husband's family which is Hobbs. The earliest we can verify his family is on the 1830 Hickman County Census where Joel C Hobbs was living with his new wife Rosannah White Hobbs and several children, some of which may have been children of other family members because Joel and Rosannah are too young to have had them all. This is my husbands gggrandfather. Family legend says Joel's father was John Hobbs from North Carolina and I am trying to verify if this is the truth, or if it is the Joel C Hobbs or Joel A Hobbs who were also in the area at the time. Our Joel C Hobbs' children were William Washington Hobbs, Mary, Jesse, David, James, Narcissa and Sarah. There may have been others and we are still searching. The family eventually moved to Humphreys County where the next generations were born. My husband and I found the old family graveyard in a pasture in Humphreys County with Joel and Rosannah's markers and some of the children. I am trying to place a Choate and Jakson (no c) who were also in this graveyard (which has fewer than 12 markers and is presumably only family). I have visited Vernon (what is left) and been to the Hickman Courthouse and several others in TN searching and have a number of deeds involving Hobbs and other lines, including Potter, Hunter and Dobbins. I am finding marriages between the families and trying to establish relationship to ours. I feel like I have a giant jigsaw puzzle with 10,000 piece and no clue what it is supposed to look like--but you may know that feeling. I look forward to sharing information. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I mistakenly said Robert Bates (1786-1834) and wife Elisabeth Perry (ca. 1775/94-1834) were married on what was their farm near Shady Grove Cemetery. I meant Little Rock Cemetery! Their son Bazzel B. Bates is buried in Shady Grove Cemetery. Sorry. Leonard. -- Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History genealogy@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

My Grandmother's mother was Virginia Belle Allen, born Pinewood (1867-1925). She was from the second family of Charles Moses Allen (1823-1884) and his second wife, Vivannah Anna Grimes (1842-aft 1900). Vivannah was the daughter of John W. Grimes (1801-1861) and Nancy C. -?- (1809-aft 1880). This line has been more difficult to work. Family died out early, but anxious to share what I know. Looking for other cousins. Leonard. -- Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History genealogy@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

Another of my Grandmother lines is Bates. Her grandmother was Narcissa Ann Bates (1840-1894). She was the daughter of Bazzel B. Bates (1812-1885) and Sarah Baird (1806-1881). Bazzel was the son of Robert Bates (1786-1834) and Elisabeth Perry. Robert and Elisabeth are buried on was was their farm near Shady Grove Cemetery. Bazzel had a large family. Sarah Baird (1806-1881) was the daughter of P. William Baird (1794-1837) and Nancy Pullum (1784-1859). William and Nancy had a large family. I try to take every line as far as I can. Would love to share with you if you are family. Leonard. -- Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History genealogy@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

My grandmother was born in Pinewood, Hickman Co., Tennessee in 1889 and came to Texas when she was about 14. Her name was Fannie Maude Beasley. For several generations back her lines are all in Hickman Co., or Williamson Co. Her father was Robert Franklin Beasley (1864-1935). He married Virginia Belle Allen (1867-1925). Robert's father was William Hilliard Beasley (1835-1891). He was twin and burned to death in Nashville. William married Narcissa Ann Bates (1840-1894). William's father was James Baugh Beasley (1793 NC-1865). He married Mary Mitchell, probably about 1817 in Williamson Co. James father was Barnet Beasley (abt 1766, Virginia - 1850/60, Hickman Co. I would love to hear from cousins...I do not track only my direct lines, but all of them, so probably have information to share. I do have a web page, but do not show living family, nor my notes. Because my Grandma was very dear to me, Hickman Co., is too. I wish I could say Tennessee the way she did! Leonard. -- Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History genealogy@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

Can anyone tell us anything about a Hezekiah George family reunion which is held at Shady Grove, Tnn. We don't know which Shady Grove but figure it is in Hickman County since Hezekiah George was from Hickman County. It is supposed to be held on the old home place. Several cousins would like to attend. We decend from Hezekiah, Valentine George, and James P. George. We would really appreciate your help. Thank you, Sherry Davis

Hello to Hickman County List: My name is Onafern Warren and I live in Missouri. I am searching for any information on John Warren. The only connection I have to Hickman county is that John and wife Margret were listed in the 1850 census there. It lists that they were both born in Tennessee. Margret Ivey and John A. Warren were married in Lawrence county, Tn. Sept. 19, 1849. Their son was born November 10, 1855 in Tennessee, but do not know if they were still in Hickman county. Their sons name was William Calvin Warren. He had a nickname of Cahalle or Cahelle, etc. When they were married in 1849, Margrets parents, Isaiah and Mary Ivy lived in Lawrence County. By the 1860 census these people had moved to Missouri. However, John was not with his wife and son, they were in Isaiah's household. Family history says that John went to Kansas where he became a wheat farmer. The story goes on to say that although John sent for them to come to him, they were afraid to make the trip alone, and he never came back for them. Basically, this is all I know about John. So far I have been unable to find him in a Kansas Census and Margret disappeared after the 1860 census, although we think she married a John Green. So, I would be very, very deeply grateful if someone might know something, anything, about these people. Onafern

Ron, I read your email about Laura McClaren. Do you have an Elizabeth McClaren in Hickman County, TN. born in 1820-21? There was a post on the LDS that Elijah Langford married Manerva Elizabeth McClaren. In the 1860 Census of Hickman County, he is married to Elizabeth age 39. I have pasted the information below that is on the census record. LANGFORD, ELIJAH    59    SC    411    LANGFORD, ELIZABETH    39    TN    411    LANGFORD, MARY E    11    TN    411    LANGFORD, BIRD M    8    TN    411    LANGFORD, JAMES K    5    TN    411    LANGFORD, MARGARETT    2    TN    411    LANGFORD, LUTHER    2/12    TN    411    GREEN, JOEL    14    TN    411    Thanks, Sonja Welborn