For some reason this link is not working. and I haven't a clue why. The Explorer will not open the site. I don't know if its technical difficulties or what but you can go directly to the VAGenWeb and I access this through Charlotte County. Sorry, this is a great site. I don't know why it won't work. Marsha -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Banasiewicz <bwhiz@mindspring.com> To: TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com <TNRUTHER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 12:58 PM Subject: Oops: Revoluationary War Address >Sorry guys: Try > >http://c-23.www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/pensions/vapen_b.txt > >I am going to try this myself when it bounces back. Sorry, I goofed again. > >Marsha > > >==== TNRUTHER Mailing List ==== >Rutherford County Online Genealogy Society >Email:Teresa at Cheasa@aol.com >Come join the Rutherford County Family! >

Sorry guys: Try http://c-23.www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/pensions/vapen_b.txt I am going to try this myself when it bounces back. Sorry, I goofed again. Marsha

Hello All: Thought I would share a site I found if any of you are looking for your Ancestor's Military Service Pension Information From 1835 in Virginia. The address I am giving you will need to be modified to suit you needs. At _b.text please replace the b with the initial of the surname you are searching. This will take you to that alpha index. (Unless of course your ancestors are B's then you are set) http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/va/pensions/vapen_b.txt This address will obviously take you to the B's. If this does not work, go to the usgenweb archives, search Virginia for Pensions. Also there is a book entitled "Virginia Revolutionary Pension Applications - Washington DC" It is in several volumes evidently. I only have the transcript and the web site I mentioned is an Index of the 1835 Pension Roll. I hope this information will be useful. Marsha

Hi to all, I was wondering if anyone had access to marriage record around 1918-1919? Thanks Lucille

I'd like to invite you to visit the Obituary Links Page. There are many sources for obituaries, cemetery inscriptions, mortality schedules, death notices, as well as birth, marriage, and anniversary announcements arranged by state and county. The URL is http://www.cribbs.net/ Thanks, Bill Cribbs Cribbs-Krebs-Creps-Kribbs Family History

A posting on the THENRY -L gave me a start. We have been 'stuck' for years at William Carrol Holliday. Born about December 1844( possibly 1842) in never more detail than 'TN'. I see that North Carolina issued warrants to cover land that had to be taken before December of 1820. I am grasping at straws here. Could it be that my gg grandfather was born in a part of TN that was North Carolina and maybe his parents claimed to live in one state over the other? If the borders ran quite different than they do now maybe they lived on a border? The item referred to 'West Tennessee' before it became Henry Co. TN. Depending where William Carrol Holliday was actually born ( we have assumed Paris TN for years) maybe we have been looking in the wrong place! If anyone is familiar with that point of history from 1820-1845 maybe you can help? It would appear that besides TN I should look at part of NC counties and if there were any counties that formed in either of those states and if they consolidated into another county. Thanks for trying to follow the 'ravings' of a stuck family member!! Dennis

I would have some serious doubts about a marriage in Henry Co TN in 1790...the county wasn't created until 1821. Kermit Rutledge

Glenda, A couple of other things....that will help you sort this out......and most folks aren't aware: a. North Carolina issued 'warrants' to over 23 million acres of what is know Tennessee. The 'warrant' holders had until December of 1820 to execute them. Look in the North Carolina archives for the warrants. They have a very good system. b. Even though a 'deed' is recorded in Henry County Deed Books, it doesn't "tell" you anything except who recorded it. Which is fine if that is all you want to know. However, if you want to know the actual description of the property, you have to look at the 'Surveyors Recording' of the property. Before a 'deed' could be recorded, it had to have a surveyor actually 'walk' the property and record it's physical description, 'warrant' or not. The surveyors records are held in Jackson & the TSLA for early West Tennessee (Henry County). You will find the physical description and neighbors of any 'warrant' there. Property surveyed and actually taken possesion of before Henry County existed and later, is entered in the Surveyor Records. They are entered under the early State Survey Districts and Ranges. You can find the actual Range on the TNGenWeb Map Page and on a big map in the Rhea Library in Paris. c. Research the County Court Minutes and accompanying Road Records for an idea of the actual location of any property. Early settlers were under the direction of the County Courts for construction of any roads thru out the county. The County Court specified, required and directed landowners to build and maintain the roads that 'ran' near their properties. The Court Minutes detail the names of the individuals, usually in the order that they lived on the road, who were to work on a particular road. You will find these Minutes and Road Records invaluable in determining where an early family actually lived and who their neighbors were. Hope this helps.......... Dave ============================================= At 10:23 PM 8/19/1999 -0500, you wrote: >David, thank you for your response. That is exactly what I had been able to >glean from the information I had. I am pretty sure that the land grant was >out in the area of the Sulphur Wells area. Thomas and Virginia's daughter, >Margaret (Peggy) and William Black McNutt are buried in the old part of >Sulphur Wells Cemetery. William had a school just down the road, Sulphur >Wells Academy. > >I had always believed that Thomas and Virginia were probably married in NC >or in East TN. There were at least 3 Thomas Gillespies in East TN at the >end of the 18th Century. > >Again thank you. > >Glenda Cook Melson > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David L. Snow <DLSNOW@worldnet.att.net> >To: TNHENRY-L@rootsweb.com <TNHENRY-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:04 PM >Subject: Re: [TNHENRY] Gillespie and Vance > > >>Hi Glenda, >> >>Thomas and Virginia were NOT married in Henry County in 1790. The LDS >>records are wrong <which is not uncommon>. Henry County did NOT EXIST in >>1790, or 1800 or 1810 or 1818. The lands that eventually became Henry >>County were not open to 'white' settlement until 1819, actually 1820 but >>there were a lot of illegal 'River Jumpers'. In 1790, Henry County was >>part of North Carolina, but was actually 'owned' by the Cherokee Indians >>who eventually sold it in the 'Jackson Purchase' of 1818 to become part of >>Tennessee. 'Whites' were NOT allowed <by the Federal Government> into the >>area legally until 1819. >> >>However, North Carolina issued 'Bounty Warrant' land claims to any number >>of persons who served in the Revolutionary War for land in the area even >>though the Cherokee actually held possession of the land and actual 'white' >>settlement couldn't actually happen, kinda like, it's yours...but you can't >>live there, because somebody else already does. Most soldiers actually >>sold their 'warrants' to speculators. Who in turn resold them. It was big >>business at the time. The 'Jackson Purchase' was named after Andrew >>Jackson who negotiated the sale with the Cherokee chief who sold out his >>people <he pocketed most of the money>. Look elsewhere for a Henry County >>marriage record prior to 1820. Also, folks forget, Marriage Licenses were >>issued and performed in the county of the BRIDE and not the groom or where >>they would actually reside. Gives you a hint as to where a wife's parents >>lived. >> >>Dave >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- >>-------------------------- >>At 06:26 PM 8/19/1999 -0500, Glenda Melson wrote: >>>Can anyone tell me the earliest recorded marriage records for Henry Co. >>> >>>I pulled off the LDS list that Thomas Gillespie married Virginia Gillespie >>in Henry Co. abt. 1790. Also, are there any land records showing a >>plantation that Thomas owned in Henry Co. at that time. His daughter >>Margaret (Peggy) Vance Gillespie McNutt inherited the land and she and her >>husband (William Black McNutt) moved there around 1830. >>> >>>Any help will be appreciated. >>> >>>Glenda Cook Melson >>>Lebanon, MO >>> >> >

Hi Glenda, Thomas and Virginia were NOT married in Henry County in 1790. The LDS records are wrong <which is not uncommon>. Henry County did NOT EXIST in 1790, or 1800 or 1810 or 1818. The lands that eventually became Henry County were not open to 'white' settlement until 1819, actually 1820 but there were a lot of illegal 'River Jumpers'. In 1790, Henry County was part of North Carolina, but was actually 'owned' by the Cherokee Indians who eventually sold it in the 'Jackson Purchase' of 1818 to become part of Tennessee. 'Whites' were NOT allowed <by the Federal Government> into the area legally until 1819. However, North Carolina issued 'Bounty Warrant' land claims to any number of persons who served in the Revolutionary War for land in the area even though the Cherokee actually held possession of the land and actual 'white' settlement couldn't actually happen, kinda like, it's yours...but you can't live there, because somebody else already does. Most soldiers actually sold their 'warrants' to speculators. Who in turn resold them. It was big business at the time. The 'Jackson Purchase' was named after Andrew Jackson who negotiated the sale with the Cherokee chief who sold out his people <he pocketed most of the money>. Look elsewhere for a Henry County marriage record prior to 1820. Also, folks forget, Marriage Licenses were issued and performed in the county of the BRIDE and not the groom or where they would actually reside. Gives you a hint as to where a wife's parents lived. Dave - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- At 06:26 PM 8/19/1999 -0500, Glenda Melson wrote: >Can anyone tell me the earliest recorded marriage records for Henry Co. > >I pulled off the LDS list that Thomas Gillespie married Virginia Gillespie in Henry Co. abt. 1790. Also, are there any land records showing a plantation that Thomas owned in Henry Co. at that time. His daughter Margaret (Peggy) Vance Gillespie McNutt inherited the land and she and her husband (William Black McNutt) moved there around 1830. > >Any help will be appreciated. > >Glenda Cook Melson >Lebanon, MO >

Can anyone tell me the earliest recorded marriage records for Henry Co. I pulled off the LDS list that Thomas Gillespie married Virginia Gillespie in Henry Co. abt. 1790. Also, are there any land records showing a plantation that Thomas owned in Henry Co. at that time. His daughter Margaret (Peggy) Vance Gillespie McNutt inherited the land and she and her husband (William Black McNutt) moved there around 1830. Any help will be appreciated. Glenda Cook Melson Lebanon, MO

The person that gave me the WW1 info as added this clarificationn Cher Subject: [ARK] WWI Draft Cards - > > I received about a dozen e-mails this morning all asking the same question > so I know that I was not clear in my post yesterday. If you forwarded my > message about the WWI draft cards being at the GA NARA branch will you > please also forward this message? > > The original draft card applications (registrations) for every state (the > entire US) are at East Pointe. According to the Archive Staff there are no > plans to split these cards and move any of them to any other NARA location > since East Pointe has been charged with the "custody" of these records. > > It is only the original cards that are in state / county / alpha order. > > Someone posted a message to one of the lists that NARA was planning on > re-filming the cards since they are now in state / county / alpha order. If > such a thing is underway it is unknown to the East Pointe archive staff and > they should know if such a thing was in the works. > > If you request a copy of your ancestor's draft card from any NARA branch > other than this one they will be searching the LDS microfilm and you will > have to know the state and draft board for them to make a copy. It is only > at the East Pointe location that you can request a copy by state and then > county and the copy will be made from the ORIGINAL card. >

Really helpful information.. you might want to save this! About draft registration and the info on it.. Cher Good Morning everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and spent the day > at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on some > information to everyone. > > Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male between the > age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The information > found on the card was provided by the individual himself. The registration > cards vary in information depending on the individual draft board. But by > and large the cards include: The full name of the person (this means first, > full middle name, any additional middle names and last name); the current > address of the man; his age; his birthdate (some include his place of > birth); whether he is a US citizen or a naturalized citizen (some ask if his > father was a naturalized citizen and his father's race); his race; his > occupation; where he is employed (name of employer); address or location of > employment; name and address of his next of kin; some cards ask if the man > is married or single and how many people he supports. The card is signed by > the draftee. On the back of the card his physical description is noted: > Height is broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards give the > actual height in feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although some > cards list actual weight along with the build; color of eyes and hair; any > deformities or injuries are listed (such as one arm missing, blind in one > eye, etc); the name and address of the draft board and the date. > > When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA branch > the LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are hundreds and > hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and filmed them - in > state order. However, within each state the cards were filed by draft board, > not by county or by draftee. This makes the searching of the microfilm > difficult to say the least. > > The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box > after it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and > thousands of cards into - state and then COUNTY order and then in > alphabetical order by surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends deserve > all the kudos we can give them for this monstrous task. > > So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm you > can order copies of the original cards from NARA. if you know the county > your ancestor lived in between 1917-1918. > > And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data bases, > however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname WHITE > found in McIntosh Co, OK and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so don't depend > on that site. I was told yesterday that some reps from Ancestry had visited > the archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about filming the cards, took one > look at the hundreds and hundreds of boxes and simply left. > > For copies: Send a letter requesting copy(s) to: > NARA > Southeast Region > 1557 St. Joseph Ave > East Point, GA 30344 > > In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft application > Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the state and the > county. If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a given surname, ask > them the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them to let you know the > copying cost. In your letter be sure and say you want a copy of the FRONT > and BACK of the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the return of you copies. > > The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents for > the front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the difference is > to be given to the Friends of the Archives, because after all they did all > this wonderful hard work for you <VBG> > > If you have any other questions about the cards please write to me and I'll > try to help. I've been "delving" into these cards for the past few years. > But PLEASE don't ask me to get the copies for you. It is difficult for me to > take the time off from work to visit the archive to do my own research <g>. >

Charlotte: I have lots of Perry's in TN. can you supply any other info? Spouse, children, parents, dates? Judy

Hi, I'm new to the list and I would like to request for Clarence Curtis Perry b. at Paris, Henry Co. Tn. Mar. 15, 1882. Would anyone have a connection or any information. Thank you Charlotte Perry Rhoades

Hi, I am new to the list. I am searching for information on my husband's maternal grandparents. The names are: George Dunn married Dora Carroll - all dates unknown - lived in Springville, TN Children: Ruthey Dell Champion married William Goble Champion Luther Dunn married Mary Mary Dunn married John Henry Hendon Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Debbie Champion

I have an ancestor who was killed by Morgan's Raiders near Big Sandy, Henry County, Tennessee, but I have conflicting death dates. Does anyone know when Morgan's Raiders might have come through that part of Tennessee? Stuart Armstrong mail to: stuarta@aros.net web page: http://cgi.aros.net/~stuarta

I have changed my searchable home page to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/9610/search/index.html It has 3178 names and 683 distinct surnames. I expect to update it again and have over 3400 names soon. Some of the names in Henry County and the Jackson Purchase of Ky. are; ARNOLD, FINCH, FORD, JETTON, RAY, SAMPSON, and SUGGS. Check it out! Dave Ray

Thank you very much. I appreciate your reply, and will contact her with specifics. Juliane Gale Bertagne >Tell her that Julia sent you. >Julia French Wood >

No, if someone would post to the list, I'd appreciate it. I may need this service, too. Thank you, Juliane Gale Bertagne Is there someone on the Henry Co TN mailing list who could either do some >courthouse research (or research at Rhea Public Library) or refer me to a >researcher? > >I would pay for these services.

I have a cousin, Laurel White, who lives in the area and would do good work. Her address is: lwhite@usit.net Tell her that Julia sent you. Julia French Wood In a message dated 08/08/1999 1:56:23 PM Central Daylight Time, heymom1@worldnet.att.net writes: > No, if someone would post to the list, I'd appreciate it. I may need this > service, too. Thank you, Juliane Gale Bertagne > > > > Is there someone on the Henry Co TN mailing list who could either do some > >courthouse research (or research at Rhea Public Library) or refer me to a > >researcher? > > > >I would pay for these services. >