Geeez people..you all sound like you are going into combat or something..LOL! I always just wear my flip flops and carry my camera, chalk, notebook & pen. My husband & I once discovered an old family graveyard that was in horrible shape. We did later go back with pruning shears and a hoe & cleaned it all up. There were briars & tree branches everywhere. The tree branches had fallen on and knocked down portions of the beautiful iron fence surrounding it. One tombstone was completely knocked down & embedded in the ground. We managed to break the dirt lose & set the stone upright again. Strangely enough the stone dated 1865 looked brand new on the underside. It was the grave of a baby. I don't know how long the stone had been face down, but after we got it all cleaned off, we could see the inscription & the little lamb etched in it as if it had just been put there. We went home feeling that we had made a difference hopefully for future generations. The only thing I have ever gotten at graveyards is poison oak & a few ticks. But I get that in my own back yard. Joan Broach Morris
How exactly do you do that? Hold the paper up to the stone and press really hard with the charcoal or chalk? ----- Original Message ----- From: lorelle marinello To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [TNHENRY] MY PREFERENCE IS SIDEWALK CHALK When I was in England, it was customary to make rubbings of tombs on butcher paper charcoal or chalk. Then you have something to take home. >Good idea Wayne...I always take sidewalk chalk & rub over the >stones. White really makes the pics show up really well..looks very >antiqued..really makes a nice pic..and it just washes off in the >rain..no harm done. But shaving cream would serve the same >purpose..With the chalk, you can rub over the whole outline of the >stone..and some of the very old ones have beautiful designs on >them..In the pic, it all shows up so well..My 3 yr old granddaughter >loves to help me with the art work...only problem is she does not >like to use white..blue seems to be her color of choice..but it too >looks good in a pic.and she really enjoys helping so much. She also >loves finding any kind of critter at the cemeteries (particularly >lizards)..They certainly don't hang around long with her after them. >LOL!! She chased 3 deer out the other day..She is the only weapon >that I carry with me. > >Joan Broach Morris -- >Mail To: >S. Lorelle Marinello or >Fred Marinello >P.O.BOX 231185 >Encinitas. CA 92023 > FRED'S ART WORK http://www.fmarinello.net/ ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Henry Co., TN Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List to [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
More wonderful ideas! I would never have thought to leave a contact number behind. Those all great, practical suggestions. And you are probably right about the skunk. I will have to rethink that one. How about an air horn? That way I don't have to get too close and it would scare off a multitude of critters. I'm adding that to my list right now. Thanks for the warning! Peggy
Wow, Wayne. That is a GOOD one. I would never have thought of that. I'm making a list so I don't leave anything out when I go. Thanks. What would make a good probe for finding buried tombstones? Anyone? Anyone? Peggy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------- A can of shaving foam is useful in raising inscriptions on old tombstones and doesn't do any damage to them. Just spray it on, rub it in and take your photo. Wayne McCormick
>How exactly do you do that? Hold the paper up to the stone and press >really hard with the charcoal or chalk? That's the general idea. You could use masking tape or duct tape to hold it in place. Then rub with the flat side of a piece or artist charcoal or a crayon. -- Lorelle Marinello [email protected]
Good idea Wayne...I always take sidewalk chalk & rub over the stones. White really makes the pics show up really well..looks very antiqued..really makes a nice pic..and it just washes off in the rain..no harm done. But shaving cream would serve the same purpose..With the chalk, you can rub over the whole outline of the stone..and some of the very old ones have beautiful designs on them..In the pic, it all shows up so well..My 3 yr old granddaughter loves to help me with the art work...only problem is she does not like to use white..blue seems to be her color of choice..but it too looks good in a pic.and she really enjoys helping so much. She also loves finding any kind of critter at the cemeteries (particularly lizards)..They certainly don't hang around long with her after them. LOL!! She chased 3 deer out the other day..She is the only weapon that I carry with me. Joan Broach Morris
Hi Peggy, My suggestion would be to contact the Henry County Monument Works company there in Paris. I don't think it would hurt it. Tilex has just done wonders on every old monument, and I have done many. Keith [email protected] wrote: You may live near some of my relatives and friends. I grew up in McKenzie. Three of my four cats are from McKenzie and one is named McKenzie, but I haven't lived near there in many years. Does the Tilex do anything to erode the old marble? I guess bleach and water would probably do the same thing, but I worry that it might be too caustic. Of course, I don't really know anything about stone or chemicals, but a lifetime of housework makes me wonder. Tilex doesn't hurt ceramic or porcelain, but I am not sure about marble. Have you checked back to see what happened over time? Just wondering. I wouldn't want to do anything that would harm the tombstones, but I sure do like time saving and convenience. Thanks for the suggestion. Peggy ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, politicalannouncements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.
When I was in England, it was customary to make rubbings of tombs on butcher paper charcoal or chalk. Then you have something to take home. >Good idea Wayne...I always take sidewalk chalk & rub over the >stones. White really makes the pics show up really well..looks very >antiqued..really makes a nice pic..and it just washes off in the >rain..no harm done. But shaving cream would serve the same >purpose..With the chalk, you can rub over the whole outline of the >stone..and some of the very old ones have beautiful designs on >them..In the pic, it all shows up so well..My 3 yr old granddaughter >loves to help me with the art work...only problem is she does not >like to use white..blue seems to be her color of choice..but it too >looks good in a pic.and she really enjoys helping so much. She also >loves finding any kind of critter at the cemeteries (particularly >lizards)..They certainly don't hang around long with her after them. >LOL!! She chased 3 deer out the other day..She is the only weapon >that I carry with me. > >Joan Broach Morris -- >Mail To: >S. Lorelle Marinello or >Fred Marinello >P.O.BOX 231185 >Encinitas. CA 92023 > FRED'S ART WORK http://www.fmarinello.net/
I discovered that you can spray a bottle of Tilex or generic equivalent on an old mildewed tombstone, and it will disappear quickly. I have used this method many times with great success. Sincerely, Keith Pence I am not a Henry Countian, though I love your county, Henry County line is four blocks from me here in McKenzie. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now.
A can of shaving foam is useful in raising inscriptions on old tombstones and doesn't do any damage to them. Just spray it on, rub it in and take your photo. Wayne McCormick ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [TNHENRY] NO FEAR OF CRITTERS!! > Well, Cacky, that machete may not work on SOME things that could be lurking > in a cemetery. Thanks for the laughs. > > My next plan of attack is mob action. I figure there is safety in numbers. > So far, I have four people that have agreed to go to a cemetery that is in a > bottom south of Paris and probably hasn't had a visitor in 100 years. We > are waiting for the weather to run the snakes off, but I'm thinking of mace for > any other animals. > > I have been told to bring a probe for the really old or neglected cemeteries > as the stones fall over and get covered up with debris. Does anyone have > any experience with doing this? I don't think I will be going to a few of > these cemeteries more than once, so I want to make sure I've covered all the > bases. Besides the obvious tools needed, what are some other useful items that > one might not think of? > > Peggy > > > ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, politicalannouncements, current events, items for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >
Here are a few suggestions: Boots! preferably high-top Thick work gloves, preferably leather palms Light colored clothes (for reduced bug attraction and for little critter check afterward, especially ticks) Manual weed whacker (if OK with property owner) Plastic baggies, note paper or index cards, a pen and something to attach or secure the baggie - to write a note with a contact point on it (email addie, e.g.) to leave at a grave site for future visitors who just might be long-lost relatives (put it partially under a rock or attach it to the stone, if possible) Believe it or not, binoculars and a magnifying glass sometimes come in handy Lots of tomato juice - cuz that mace will probably just make a skunk mad! <just joking> --- [email protected] wrote: > Well, Cacky, that machete may not work on SOME > things that could be lurking > in a cemetery. Thanks for the laughs. > > My next plan of attack is mob action. I figure > there is safety in numbers. > So far, I have four people that have agreed to > go to a cemetery that is in a > bottom south of Paris and probably hasn't had a > visitor in 100 years. We > are waiting for the weather to run the snakes > off, but I'm thinking of mace for > any other animals. > > I have been told to bring a probe for the > really old or neglected cemeteries > as the stones fall over and get covered up with > debris. Does anyone have > any experience with doing this? I don't think > I will be going to a few of > these cemeteries more than once, so I want to > make sure I've covered all the > bases. Besides the obvious tools needed, what > are some other useful items that > one might not think of? > > Peggy > > > ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test > messages, chain letters, > politicalannouncements, current events, items > for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for > exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Well, Cacky, that machete may not work on SOME things that could be lurking in a cemetery. Thanks for the laughs. My next plan of attack is mob action. I figure there is safety in numbers. So far, I have four people that have agreed to go to a cemetery that is in a bottom south of Paris and probably hasn't had a visitor in 100 years. We are waiting for the weather to run the snakes off, but I'm thinking of mace for any other animals. I have been told to bring a probe for the really old or neglected cemeteries as the stones fall over and get covered up with debris. Does anyone have any experience with doing this? I don't think I will be going to a few of these cemeteries more than once, so I want to make sure I've covered all the bases. Besides the obvious tools needed, what are some other useful items that one might not think of? Peggy
I have a " cemetery box" that is a plastic tote with all I need in a cemetery in it.. bug spray, tablet and pen to copy tombstone inscriptions, camera and spare film, ...all that kind of thing.... and a MACHETE. I planned on it for snakes , haven't had ot use it at all, but it might scare someone off if I needed it to! Cacky
Joan, I have been too long out of the country. But I was always afraid of snakes. The older I get, the more cautious I get. I guess I still just want to visit cemeteries, not BE visited. I would love to hear the cemetery "lady" story. That sounds like a hoot! Peggy
Peggy, I am a country girl, always have been and always will be. I am used to all kinds of scary critters. The thought of being scared never crossed my mind. I get so preoccupied when I am "discovering" new territory..I guess I don't have the good sense to be scared. I have a one track mind, and can not do 2 things at once. LOL! Last Spring when we went on search of old cemeteries and actually found some...we had to walk miles & miles into dense underbrush without any clue what would be there to greet us. Honestly, I was so excited about the hope of finding my dead ancestors' graves, my safety was the last thing on my mind. I did have a very strange encounter at an old cemetery recently. While I was down checking out a tombstone, a lady stepped out from behind a tree..It really startled me because I had no idea anyone else was in the cemetery. This lady approached me & started talking. I would go into detail about the conversation, but you all would think I was totally craz! y. That really scared me. Let's just say I have not been back to that cemetery since. Critters don't scare me Peggy...people do!! I can outguess, or hopefully outrun a critter...but no so sure about a person..LOL!! Joan Broach Morris
I'd love to hear it as well. I spent a couple of days north of Dallas tromping through graveyards. Got my first case of the chiggers! The lady sounds very interesting. > >I would love to hear the cemetery "lady" story. That sounds like a hoot! > >Peggy -- >Mail To: >S. Lorelle Marinello or >Fred Marinello >P.O.BOX 231185 >Encinitas. CA 92023 > FRED'S ART WORK http://www.fmarinello.net/
I have searched for many cemeteries in Henry County. Not all of the old family ones have any access at all. With a combination of the USGS map and other area maps you can get close, but then comes the hard part......getting over my fear of scary critters to get to them. Sometimes it's bulls in pastures, dogs in the yard and always snakes. You also have to go onto private property which means asking permission and even the folks can be scary sometimes. My biggest obstacle will be conquering the scariest critter of all.....the chicken in me. Good luck. Peggy
Peggy, I just read your account of searching for cemeteries. I love the way you describe it and the scariest critter of all. Thanks for putting some sunshine in my early morning. Your cousin John Lawrence -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNHENRY] BROACH CEMETERY I have searched for many cemeteries in Henry County. Not all of the old family ones have any access at all. With a combination of the USGS map and other area maps you can get close, but then comes the hard part......getting over my fear of scary critters to get to them. Sometimes it's bulls in pastures, dogs in the yard and always snakes. You also have to go onto private property which means asking permission and even the folks can be scary sometimes. My biggest obstacle will be conquering the scariest critter of all.....the chicken in me. Good luck. Peggy ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== If you wish to unsubscribe from the Henry Co., TN Mailing List, send only the word UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or if you are on the Digest List to [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Thanks Peggy & Genie, Earlier in the Spring you all in the group gave me that website, but even with that map..we were still not able to locate it. We drove all over the area, and even stopped & asked people of its whereabouts. No one seemed to know. I plan to go back when it cools up & search again. I just saw someone in the group taking about Mansfield, and I thought if they knew the area, they might possibly know of the old Broach Graveyard. I don't guess they did.. Thanks so much for all your help..You all are the best..By the way that website did help me find many other cemeteries on my list. Joan Broach Morris
Here's the cemetery entry from the USGS's GNIS site: Feature Name: Broach Cemetery Feature Type: cemetery State: Tennessee County: Henry USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Mansfield 361009N 0881748W It appears to be due south of Paris about 12-13 mi. --- JOAN MORRIS <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, Speaking of Mansfield...Do any of you > know where the old Broach Graveyard is in > Mansfield? There was supposed to be an old home > place that was over 100 years old there (which > I have been told burned down). Supposedly the > family graveyard was close to the old house. I > have been there looking for it, but so far > never found it. I can't find listings of the > Broaches buried there..Does anyone know > anything about the location of the graveyard or > the Broaches who are buried there? I would > appreciate any info anyone might have. > Supposedly my ggg grandparents George & Jane > Burch Broach are buried there. > > Thanks muchly, > Joan Broach Morris > > > ==== TNHENRY Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test > messages, chain letters, > politicalannouncements, current events, items > for sale, personal > messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) > is NOT ALLOWED and will be > grounds for removal. Consideration for > exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including > the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. > Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush