There was a Clem LAWSON in Miller County, MO from an early day, likely ca 1840. As far as I know no one has placed this Clem. The source is Miller County Families and gathered from census data. http://www.stormloader.com/kvernon/fam/lawson.htm >>Clem Lawson who also is believed to be related to the other lines. He could be the first Lawson to come to this area. His wife is not known. His children are: 1. Alex Lawson was born Aug. 5, 1842 and died Nov. 28, 1920. His wife was Ellen Duncan. They had 9 children: John C., William F., Linsay M., Roy H., Mrs. C. E. Shepherd, George W., Mrs. Nathan Lawson, Edward A. and Sarah. In 1880 census of Miller Co., they were: Alexander age 38, Ellen age 24, John age 13, William age 11, Lindsey age 10, Martha age 9, Mary A. age 8, Caroline age 7, Angeline age 5, and Annetta age 3. 2. Lindsay Lawson by his first marriage had a girl named Ellen who married Laughlin Sherrill. Lindsay married a second time and had a son named George Calvin Lawson. 3. Calvin Lawson was married to a woman named Evelyn. They had 3 children: William, Etta, and Mary Ellen. In 1880 Maries Co. census: Calvin age 38, Julia E. age 25, William L. age 5, Mary E. age 2. 4. Nancy Lawson married Elisha Lee. They had 4 children: Marion, Louis, Isaac, and Alice. Most of these older Lawsons are buried in the Jim Matt Lawson and the Dick Lawson cemeteries. === -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 338 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew ([email protected]) 2. Re: Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) ([email protected]) 3. different Clems and New Sweden was (Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew) ([email protected]) 4. Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) ([email protected]) 5. Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) ([email protected]) 6. Re: Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:04:34 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ambrose was in the Coomer, Collins and many other family lines. Ambrose Powell was an early explorer in TN in that area. There was someone kin named Thomas Ambrose (surname forgotten at the moment) so Ambrose could be a middle name.... The only other Ambrose of that generation I know about is likely connected: Lawson, Ambrose _ father: Lawson, Elisha (see David) _ mother: unknown, Mary _ born: 1799-1802 @ NC _ died: _ married 01: _ spouse 01: Sisk, Mary Ann "Polly" (b: 1809 @ NC) _ children total: _ child 01: Lawson Mary A b: 1830 @ NC _ child 02: Lawson Woody b: 1833 @ NC m: Lawson, Mary @ NC, Surry Co. _ child 03: Lawson Elisha (named after father ?) b: 1834 @ NC _ child 04: Lawson Richard b: 1836/1837 @ TN - sons John and Richard moved to Carroll Co Va. between 1850-1860. d: 1912 @ VA, Carroll Co. m01: Freeman, Nancy m02: Aker, Frances @ VA, Wythe Co. _ child 05: Lawson John b: 1839 @ NC - sons John and Richard moved to Carroll Co Va. between 1850-1860. d 1912 @ VA, Carroll Co. m01: Taylor, Elzina m02: Shepherd, Sarah from NC, Ashe Co. _ child 06: Lawson Thomas b: 1843 @ NC _ Tax List: not sure about this but possibly same as in 1836 Hawkins Co. tax list Civil District 4 with David Lawson - near John Monk etc. - also based on children's births he was in TN 1836/1837 period for son Richard's birth then back to NC by 1839. _ Note: If Ambrose of Stokes Co. b: 1799 his son Richard was born 1836/1837 in TN all other children before and after in NC - associated with David. An older Ambrose b: 1780 abt. appears in Hawkins Co. in 1860 and Banks named a son Ambrose _ census: 1850 NC, Stokes Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:13:21 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow! That would explain the three Clems and Banks. I never considered that! Seems like somewhere...in military records...somebody would have named their father. But I guess we were on a war break then...nothing REALLY big between 1776 and 1861. So many coincidences to be a coincidence! How's that for deep thought! Clement Burrell...! The NC info is remarkable! I think we are into the axle grease and out of the pudding! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:35:47 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] different Clems and New Sweden was (Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:38:53 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:40:02 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... One must also consider that they could have taken their names from the old settlers. Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:54:52 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Deed index (grantor) 1630186 (Rush Co IN) To - from - kind of deed, consideration, date of deed, (description) (name of town) land Sec Twn Rng (acres), recorded, bk pg Clemment Lawson - James Paxton War $75 24 Dec 1836 Und 1/2 WNE 4-15-10 5 Apr 1838 I-55 Need to review Paxon/Paxton (consider Parton/Partin etc. spellings) in areas around old Clem (NC / Hawkins Co., TN / Rush/Henry/Madison co. IN for connections). Also possible William & Joseph Garrison / Garretson / Garretsen and Ezekiel Sullivan connections beside the known Banks family connection. Remember also Hennis and Banks were just outside of Louisville Ky in 1830 - on the Indiana side. Look for signs of or reasons for Burrell and Clement to be there. 1828 Garrison, William vs Lawson, Hennis & Burrel; Willis, Larkin & James for Debt 1833 Burrell Lawson Hawkins County - selling brandy without a license Were any of these folks enterprising provisioners who stayed under the radar so to speak ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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