This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gwwhalen Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9548.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Her name is listed as Elizabeth Herd on ancestry.com source Dodd, Jordan R.. Tennessee Marriages, 1851-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Original data: See extended description for original data sources listed by county. Maybe this will help you with the searching. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sherry Which files could you open so I can send you that you could not open. I have been doing genealogy since 1988 my Aunt Katie Watson got me started. My Dad made a comment to me "Why do you want to do genealogy we came here in one wagon as family and when we left in a wagon we were still family" I got a laugh out of it. It was about 4 years ago that I did a DNA Test as I was stuck on my Johnson lines. I got DNA matches back to researchers of Michael Johnson who died in 1719 on Tuckahoe Creek Henrico Co. Va. Michael Johnson was married to Sarah Watson I started searching around Henrico Co and especially on Tuckahoe Creek. Well low and behold there was 10 families on that creek in 1680 era that I descend from that were still living together to this day on Hurricane Creek in Humphreys Co. Tn. My dad's statement held true. I have since studied the Mountain, Creek or River that my allied families have lived on and have made numerous connections. I then noted that my families that lived on certain creeks or Rivers who were on the North or South Side or East or West side but they were in different Counties or in a different parish. It was then that I realized these Rivers or Creeks that were heavly settled were being used as dividing lines for Counties or Parish's which seem to change like the wind. They were still living by each other but they were in different Counties, some of these creeks one could wade across and be in another county when they went to visit Mom or Dad. That is why in my reported I place parent Counties or Parish for further researching and cross referencing into other files Another thing was when they moved; is to look at when they filed their deeds and record everyone posting a deed that day or with in that 5 days, as this is the people they traveled with to get to new lands that some of their family was already on. This gives you a Travel pattern to check up on. Always check the Parent Counties for deeds on the Creek they settled and note the names and time the first deeds were recorded as some one their sent a letter back to get the family to come and settle by them. I also am the Librarian for the JJJDNA site we have 80 plus researchers sending me documents on Jonson-Jonston-Johnson-Johnston-Johnsen deeds, Wills, anything that mentions a variation of the Johnson surname, and one thing is really standing out is families stayed together, married together and moved as a Clan. This is on the DNA's color coding at the top of ever report. I was working last night on Tn Franklin CO formed from Williamson Co files, so I could not send it. James Shropshire of Franklin Co Tn is the son of Winkfield Shropshire who died 1816, WInkfied Shropshire is the son of Winkfield Shropshire who died 1798 in Oglethrope Co Ga. This line of Shropshire's attended the Matrimony Baptist Church which lands fell into Rockingham Co NC when it formed. They are first found in what is called the Salisbury Dist. of NC I can not get a time era of when the Shropshire and Allied families arrived there, but they owned lands on Buffalo Creek in what becomes Rockingham NC and this Buffalo Creek flows right out of what was Henry County Va in 1776-1780 where my Hudson Johnson lived father of Mary Polly Johnson married to Joel Shropshire. Joel Shropshire is Seymour or Semair Shropshire the brother of Winkfield Shropshire who died in Oglethorpe Co. Ga. Samier Shropshire went back to Rockfish River with Jane Murrell. That again is a length file as they settled by kinsman there and intermarried again. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: sherry arnold<mailto:sarnold77@verizon.net> To: Tony Johnson<mailto:tonyempireore@msn.com> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:03 AM Subject: Re: MURRELL/SIMS Tony, I couldn't open this first one, it said an error occured while reading it??? I am not very proficient on anything very technical... duh... And then the attachment went away when I hit reply... duh again... smiles How many years have you been working on this??? It is wonderful!!! Thank you so much AGAIN!!! I will be up all night reading the others!!! smiles Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Johnson<mailto:tonyempireore@msn.com> To: sherry arnold<mailto:sarnold77@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 12:50 AM Subject: Re: MURRELL/SIMS Sherry I study the LAND ( Creek Mountain or River) our (My Ancestorys lived on) Then I fill in the neighbors LOL most always they are Kinman. ----- Original Message ----- From: sherry arnold<mailto:sarnold77@verizon.net> To: Tony Johnson<mailto:tonyempireore@msn.com> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:47 PM Subject: MURRELL/SIMS tONY, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for sharing your wonderful info!!! It is almost as if you lived during their time, you really make our ancestors come to life!!! John Slaughter married Matilda Murrell d/o Benjamin Murrell in Limestone Co AL (I think they married there, I am speaking from memory, which is not as good as it once was, smiles) They all moved to Weakley Co TN and my greatgrandfather John Franklin Melton married the daughter of James W Slaughter s/o John Slaughter and Matilda Murrell. She was Frances Ann Slaughter. James W Slaughter's wife was Caroline Clemons d/o Charles Clemons born VA but came up from Limestone Co also. His wife was Mary Daughterty born Hawkins Co TN as per a write up in Goodspeed's on Weakley Co. Are any of these other familes in your database??? Sherry

The Sims -Symes Plantation in Limestone Co. Benjamin Murrell of Washington Co. NC is the first cousin of Rev. Thomas Murrell, they can be found in Henry Co. Va before they all moved into Washington Co. NC. then before that they are Found in Pittsylvania Co which split from Lunenburg Co. The area Benjamin Murrell and Thomas Murrell lived in was also part of Halifax County at one time. They Murrells lived on the Smith-Irvine River Bartlett Simms was the neighbor of one Hudson Johnson of Big Creek. it is his families that made the Simms Settlement in Limestone Co this is also where I found my Patrick Henry Mcelyea. In 1783 Big Creek Baptist Church records found in the records of Bent Creek Baptist Church you will find the first members of that Church one is Benjamin Murrell and his wife Sarah. Also of note is the Symes that you are referring to comes off Adam SYmes whose wife was ? Isham whose sister married William Randolph. General James Randolph Robertson is believed to come from this William Randolph and wife Isham. General James Randolph Robertson lived on Big Creek Washington Co. NC before he and Donelson went and founded Nashville. Now from memory Mary wife of Benjamin Murrell was a Symes which will comes off Adam Symes and his wife ? Isham/ Please contact be off site for some of my files. 4 Mar 1779, Thomas MURRELL of Henry deeded land on the Muster Branch of Leatherwood Creek to Jeffrey MURRELL, one of his witnesses Benjamin MURRELL. http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/records/m/murrell.html<http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/records/m/murrell.html> 10 Dec 1779, Jeffery & Martha MURRELL deeded land on the "Muster Branch of Leatherwood Creek" to George REYNOLDS, http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/records/m/murrell.html<http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/records/m/murrell.html> Notes: Benjamin MURRELL, born 13 Nov 1760, Lunenburg County, Virginia, applied for his military pension on 09 Oct 1832 in Weakley Co, TN, declaring that he had served in both the Virginia and North Carolina lines, that he had been born 13 Nov 1760 in Lunenburg Co, VA, but resided in Henry Co, VA at enlistment, then moved to Washington Co, NC (now in TN), then to Hawkins Co, NC (TN) about 1784, and in 1788 to Jefferson Co, TN for 17 years, then to Limestone Co, AL [ca 1805?] for 20 years, then to Hardeman Co, TN for 4 years, and in Dec 1830, moved to Weakley Co, TN. His widow, Mary, applied there on 22 Jun 1841, declaring they had married on 30 Sep 1783, and that she was born 30 Nov 1764. She further declared that her husband, Benjamin MURRELL, had died on 25 May 1835. Tony L. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: sherry arnold<mailto:sarnold77@verizon.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Some of the Families of My Mary JohnsonShropshire May Tony, Do yuu have a Benjamin Murrell that went to Limestone Co AL early 1800/10 then later to Weakley Co TN (extreme western TN)??? He was of the SIMS settlement in NE AL. Sherry Melton Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com<mailto:tonyempireore@msn.com>> To: "Charlene Duval" <cduval@cruzio.com<mailto:cduval@cruzio.com>>; "TN Hawkins County" <TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com>>; "TN Humphreys County" <TNHumphr-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHumphr-L@rootsweb.com>>; "TN Dickson County" <TNDickso-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNDickso-L@rootsweb.com>>; "tnwillia" <tnwillia@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnwillia@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Some of the Families of My Mary Johnson Shropshire May > Charlene > > If you can give me the name of the Creek, Mountain or River that your > James Shropshire is associated with I will be glad to get involved and > help you as the Shropshires are one of the Keys in finding by families > Send me the earliest tax list you find him on and note everyone on the > same PAGE he is on. Or if he is on an early census 1810, 1820 or 1830 note > the 15 people above him and 16 people below him. DO NOT us a Alpha list. > (Check for Page numbers if alpha) > > Sterling May is also one of our May Families of Humphreys and Dickson Co. > Tn. The Mays families are married into Mary "Polly" Johnson Shropshire > Mays Families. Her father and Mother is Hudson Johnson born unk a whiskey > maker from NC they lived in 1775-1781 on Buffalo Creek in Henry Co Tn. > Mother is Agness Johnson unk maided name. borne 1740-1750 died 1843 > DIckson Co. Tn. > > Hudson lived on Buffalo Creek with a William Johnson and a James Johnson, > Buffalo Creek runs down and across the NC State lines into Matrimony Creek > in what is now Rockingham Co NC, this is where we find the Shropshire > families of Joel Shsropshire with his Uncles and Cousins involved in the > Matrimony Baptist Church. They are married to the Hill Families who will > died in Franklin County Tn. See the Shropshire family will noted in report > I sent you, some how this is tied in. > > William Shropshire served in the Rev. War with Gideon Johnson and his > families of Williamson and Humphreys Co. Tn. which will include my McElyea > Families of Williamson, Muary and Humphreys Co., Tn. Patrick Henry McElyea > my lines will also die in Franklin Co. Tn he had help there filling out > his Rev. War Application from a ? Patrick, his brother William McElyea > served with the Shropshire and Allied families coming off Joel Shropshire. > Gideon Johnson and William Shropshires Rev. War Service will include 3 > brothers of Sgt. Reubin Curtis. They lived in areas where we find the > matching DNA of Eli Thomas Curtis of Humphreys CO. Tn. > > The County Lines for Rockingham Co first Start with settlements of land in > Rowan Co. NC Deeds where these families get first involved, and some how > it will include families in Granville Co NC under Col. William Eaton. > > Jane Murrell and Seymour or Samier Shropshire leave the Matrimony Baptist > Church and moved up unto the Rockfish River in what was Albemarle Co Va, > then changed to Amherst and by 1803 this area is in Nelson Co. Va. Seymore > Shrsopshire families are married into the Chandler families and the Fox > Families of what was the Salisbury District of NC (several County Splits > here). He moved back to Albemarle Co Va. with Jane Murrell a cousin of > Rev. Thomas Murrell who remarried the widow of James Johnson of Henry Co. > Va. and they left for the frontier of Big Creek then in Washington CO NC > and claimed by Washington Co Va. Hudson Johnson lived with this James > Johnson prior to his death which was abt 1782. Hudson Johnson settled in > Carters Valley where Agness attended the Rev. Thomas Murrells Church on > Big Creek (See Timothy Amiss books for names of Accounts) Hudson Leaves > Big Creek about 1801-1803 and goes to lands that were inside Williamson > Co. Tn. In 1803 he left Williamson Co. TN ( N! > ote see split Counties of Williamson they include Muarry and Franklin Co. > Tn) Of Note is my lines off Hiram McElyea son of Patrick Henry McElyea are > in this area that becomes Muary Co. Tn. His father will do some more > traveling but will die in Lands that become Franklin Co TN. (Which were in > Williamson Co in 1803) > > Hudson Johnson and wife Agness will settle on Bartons Creek of Harpeth > River of Robertson Co tn in 1803, but before they get there the lands > become Dickson Co. Tn (Note see were else Harpeth River Deeds are found in > early TN) > > Now of note in going back into Big Creek where Rev. Thomas Murrell settled > is where we find General James Randolph Robertson founder of Tn. and wife > Charlotte Reeves (Rives) (Reaves) of Note is Hudson Johnson bought his > lands on Big Creek from Stokley Donaldson (Donelson) son of Col. John > Donelson whose land deed for lands in what becomes Hawkins Co. Tn are > found with the HENDERSON PARTY of ROWAN CO NC mostly in Virginia. Col. > Donelson assisted the Henderson and its Company Officers in settling > lands that will become NE Tennessee which will include the area of Hawkins > Co. Tn. > > Now take a closer look at the partners in the Henderson group we find the > name Lenoard Henley / a greatgrandson of Lenoard Henly who lived on > Tuckahoe Creek in 1720-1730 Neighbor of my DNA Johnson lines, neighbor of > the Hatcher Families coming off Benjamin Hatcher and Edward Hatcher Jr, > then we find the Bullock Families, and one Thomas Murrell, who we even > find the Ball families of General Washington. > > Now when Hudson Johnson and wife Agness left Williamson Co. Tn for lands > of bartons Creek Robertson Co Tn. They will settle there on Bartons Creek > by General James Randolph Robertson who owned the Iron Furnace on Bartons > Creek and Harpeth River. Well most likely they traveled the Harpeth River > coming out of Williamson Co. Tn. ( Note three our other Johnson Families > on this River and on Bartons Creek but in other Counties) > > Now Rev. Thomas Murrell and his Wife the widow of James Johnson of Henry > Co. Va. moved to Williamson Co. Tn where he had two brothers living. By > 1806 he too is found in Dickson Co. Tn preaching. In 1843 Rev. Thomas > Murrell's son is the administrator of my Agness Johnson estate. > > Now lets go back even further into the First Shropshire connections that > can be found in 1698- to 1703 era Rev. St. John SHropshire a Anglin Church > minister is preaching to the fore father of General James Randolph > Robertson one Christopher Robertson here in this CHurch you will also find > the Ball family (Fore Runner of General George Washington who gave General > Robertson his commission) The families in this Church are also some of my > Fore fathers > > Now the Rev. St. John Shropshires widow will re marry a Thomas Stonehouse > neighbor of the Thornton Families whose families will be found on Rockfish > River and following Col. William Eaton to Brunswick Co and then onto lands > of Granville Co. NC ( thies lands will go into other counties when they > split) Many notes on connctions on Rockfish River. > > "To know your neighbor is to know your Kinsmen" This is very true prior to > 1860 and the War between the States. > > A lot of knowledge can be gained when you study the LAND our fore fathers > came too as they came there with kinsman. > > Tony L. Johnson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tony, Do yuu have a Benjamin Murrell that went to Limestone Co AL early 1800/10 then later to Weakley Co TN (extreme western TN)??? He was of the SIMS settlement in NE AL. Sherry Melton Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com> To: "Charlene Duval" <cduval@cruzio.com>; "TN Hawkins County" <TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com>; "TN Humphreys County" <TNHumphr-L@rootsweb.com>; "TN Dickson County" <TNDickso-L@rootsweb.com>; "tnwillia" <tnwillia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Some of the Families of My Mary Johnson Shropshire May > Charlene > > If you can give me the name of the Creek, Mountain or River that your > James Shropshire is associated with I will be glad to get involved and > help you as the Shropshires are one of the Keys in finding by families > Send me the earliest tax list you find him on and note everyone on the > same PAGE he is on. Or if he is on an early census 1810, 1820 or 1830 note > the 15 people above him and 16 people below him. DO NOT us a Alpha list. > (Check for Page numbers if alpha) > > Sterling May is also one of our May Families of Humphreys and Dickson Co. > Tn. The Mays families are married into Mary "Polly" Johnson Shropshire > Mays Families. Her father and Mother is Hudson Johnson born unk a whiskey > maker from NC they lived in 1775-1781 on Buffalo Creek in Henry Co Tn. > Mother is Agness Johnson unk maided name. borne 1740-1750 died 1843 > DIckson Co. Tn. > > Hudson lived on Buffalo Creek with a William Johnson and a James Johnson, > Buffalo Creek runs down and across the NC State lines into Matrimony Creek > in what is now Rockingham Co NC, this is where we find the Shropshire > families of Joel Shsropshire with his Uncles and Cousins involved in the > Matrimony Baptist Church. They are married to the Hill Families who will > died in Franklin County Tn. See the Shropshire family will noted in report > I sent you, some how this is tied in. > > William Shropshire served in the Rev. War with Gideon Johnson and his > families of Williamson and Humphreys Co. Tn. which will include my McElyea > Families of Williamson, Muary and Humphreys Co., Tn. Patrick Henry McElyea > my lines will also die in Franklin Co. Tn he had help there filling out > his Rev. War Application from a ? Patrick, his brother William McElyea > served with the Shropshire and Allied families coming off Joel Shropshire. > Gideon Johnson and William Shropshires Rev. War Service will include 3 > brothers of Sgt. Reubin Curtis. They lived in areas where we find the > matching DNA of Eli Thomas Curtis of Humphreys CO. Tn. > > The County Lines for Rockingham Co first Start with settlements of land in > Rowan Co. NC Deeds where these families get first involved, and some how > it will include families in Granville Co NC under Col. William Eaton. > > Jane Murrell and Seymour or Samier Shropshire leave the Matrimony Baptist > Church and moved up unto the Rockfish River in what was Albemarle Co Va, > then changed to Amherst and by 1803 this area is in Nelson Co. Va. Seymore > Shrsopshire families are married into the Chandler families and the Fox > Families of what was the Salisbury District of NC (several County Splits > here). He moved back to Albemarle Co Va. with Jane Murrell a cousin of > Rev. Thomas Murrell who remarried the widow of James Johnson of Henry Co. > Va. and they left for the frontier of Big Creek then in Washington CO NC > and claimed by Washington Co Va. Hudson Johnson lived with this James > Johnson prior to his death which was abt 1782. Hudson Johnson settled in > Carters Valley where Agness attended the Rev. Thomas Murrells Church on > Big Creek (See Timothy Amiss books for names of Accounts) Hudson Leaves > Big Creek about 1801-1803 and goes to lands that were inside Williamson > Co. Tn. In 1803 he left Williamson Co. TN ( N! > ote see split Counties of Williamson they include Muarry and Franklin Co. > Tn) Of Note is my lines off Hiram McElyea son of Patrick Henry McElyea are > in this area that becomes Muary Co. Tn. His father will do some more > traveling but will die in Lands that become Franklin Co TN. (Which were in > Williamson Co in 1803) > > Hudson Johnson and wife Agness will settle on Bartons Creek of Harpeth > River of Robertson Co tn in 1803, but before they get there the lands > become Dickson Co. Tn (Note see were else Harpeth River Deeds are found in > early TN) > > Now of note in going back into Big Creek where Rev. Thomas Murrell settled > is where we find General James Randolph Robertson founder of Tn. and wife > Charlotte Reeves (Rives) (Reaves) of Note is Hudson Johnson bought his > lands on Big Creek from Stokley Donaldson (Donelson) son of Col. John > Donelson whose land deed for lands in what becomes Hawkins Co. Tn are > found with the HENDERSON PARTY of ROWAN CO NC mostly in Virginia. Col. > Donelson assisted the Henderson and its Company Officers in settling > lands that will become NE Tennessee which will include the area of Hawkins > Co. Tn. > > Now take a closer look at the partners in the Henderson group we find the > name Lenoard Henley / a greatgrandson of Lenoard Henly who lived on > Tuckahoe Creek in 1720-1730 Neighbor of my DNA Johnson lines, neighbor of > the Hatcher Families coming off Benjamin Hatcher and Edward Hatcher Jr, > then we find the Bullock Families, and one Thomas Murrell, who we even > find the Ball families of General Washington. > > Now when Hudson Johnson and wife Agness left Williamson Co. Tn for lands > of bartons Creek Robertson Co Tn. They will settle there on Bartons Creek > by General James Randolph Robertson who owned the Iron Furnace on Bartons > Creek and Harpeth River. Well most likely they traveled the Harpeth River > coming out of Williamson Co. Tn. ( Note three our other Johnson Families > on this River and on Bartons Creek but in other Counties) > > Now Rev. Thomas Murrell and his Wife the widow of James Johnson of Henry > Co. Va. moved to Williamson Co. Tn where he had two brothers living. By > 1806 he too is found in Dickson Co. Tn preaching. In 1843 Rev. Thomas > Murrell's son is the administrator of my Agness Johnson estate. > > Now lets go back even further into the First Shropshire connections that > can be found in 1698- to 1703 era Rev. St. John SHropshire a Anglin Church > minister is preaching to the fore father of General James Randolph > Robertson one Christopher Robertson here in this CHurch you will also find > the Ball family (Fore Runner of General George Washington who gave General > Robertson his commission) The families in this Church are also some of my > Fore fathers > > Now the Rev. St. John Shropshires widow will re marry a Thomas Stonehouse > neighbor of the Thornton Families whose families will be found on Rockfish > River and following Col. William Eaton to Brunswick Co and then onto lands > of Granville Co. NC ( thies lands will go into other counties when they > split) Many notes on connctions on Rockfish River. > > "To know your neighbor is to know your Kinsmen" This is very true prior to > 1860 and the War between the States. > > A lot of knowledge can be gained when you study the LAND our fore fathers > came too as they came there with kinsman. > > Tony L. Johnson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Charlene If you can give me the name of the Creek, Mountain or River that your James Shropshire is associated with I will be glad to get involved and help you as the Shropshires are one of the Keys in finding by families Send me the earliest tax list you find him on and note everyone on the same PAGE he is on. Or if he is on an early census 1810, 1820 or 1830 note the 15 people above him and 16 people below him. DO NOT us a Alpha list. (Check for Page numbers if alpha) Sterling May is also one of our May Families of Humphreys and Dickson Co. Tn. The Mays families are married into Mary "Polly" Johnson Shropshire Mays Families. Her father and Mother is Hudson Johnson born unk a whiskey maker from NC they lived in 1775-1781 on Buffalo Creek in Henry Co Tn. Mother is Agness Johnson unk maided name. borne 1740-1750 died 1843 DIckson Co. Tn. Hudson lived on Buffalo Creek with a William Johnson and a James Johnson, Buffalo Creek runs down and across the NC State lines into Matrimony Creek in what is now Rockingham Co NC, this is where we find the Shropshire families of Joel Shsropshire with his Uncles and Cousins involved in the Matrimony Baptist Church. They are married to the Hill Families who will died in Franklin County Tn. See the Shropshire family will noted in report I sent you, some how this is tied in. William Shropshire served in the Rev. War with Gideon Johnson and his families of Williamson and Humphreys Co. Tn. which will include my McElyea Families of Williamson, Muary and Humphreys Co., Tn. Patrick Henry McElyea my lines will also die in Franklin Co. Tn he had help there filling out his Rev. War Application from a ? Patrick, his brother William McElyea served with the Shropshire and Allied families coming off Joel Shropshire. Gideon Johnson and William Shropshires Rev. War Service will include 3 brothers of Sgt. Reubin Curtis. They lived in areas where we find the matching DNA of Eli Thomas Curtis of Humphreys CO. Tn. The County Lines for Rockingham Co first Start with settlements of land in Rowan Co. NC Deeds where these families get first involved, and some how it will include families in Granville Co NC under Col. William Eaton. Jane Murrell and Seymour or Samier Shropshire leave the Matrimony Baptist Church and moved up unto the Rockfish River in what was Albemarle Co Va, then changed to Amherst and by 1803 this area is in Nelson Co. Va. Seymore Shrsopshire families are married into the Chandler families and the Fox Families of what was the Salisbury District of NC (several County Splits here). He moved back to Albemarle Co Va. with Jane Murrell a cousin of Rev. Thomas Murrell who remarried the widow of James Johnson of Henry Co. Va. and they left for the frontier of Big Creek then in Washington CO NC and claimed by Washington Co Va. Hudson Johnson lived with this James Johnson prior to his death which was abt 1782. Hudson Johnson settled in Carters Valley where Agness attended the Rev. Thomas Murrells Church on Big Creek (See Timothy Amiss books for names of Accounts) Hudson Leaves Big Creek about 1801-1803 and goes to lands that were inside Williamson Co. Tn. In 1803 he left Williamson Co. TN ( Note see split Counties of Williamson they include Muarry and Franklin Co. Tn) Of Note is my lines off Hiram McElyea son of Patrick Henry McElyea are in this area that becomes Muary Co. Tn. His father will do some more traveling but will die in Lands that become Franklin Co TN. (Which were in Williamson Co in 1803) Hudson Johnson and wife Agness will settle on Bartons Creek of Harpeth River of Robertson Co tn in 1803, but before they get there the lands become Dickson Co. Tn (Note see were else Harpeth River Deeds are found in early TN) Now of note in going back into Big Creek where Rev. Thomas Murrell settled is where we find General James Randolph Robertson founder of Tn. and wife Charlotte Reeves (Rives) (Reaves) of Note is Hudson Johnson bought his lands on Big Creek from Stokley Donaldson (Donelson) son of Col. John Donelson whose land deed for lands in what becomes Hawkins Co. Tn are found with the HENDERSON PARTY of ROWAN CO NC mostly in Virginia. Col. Donelson assisted the Henderson and its Company Officers in settling lands that will become NE Tennessee which will include the area of Hawkins Co. Tn. Now take a closer look at the partners in the Henderson group we find the name Lenoard Henley / a greatgrandson of Lenoard Henly who lived on Tuckahoe Creek in 1720-1730 Neighbor of my DNA Johnson lines, neighbor of the Hatcher Families coming off Benjamin Hatcher and Edward Hatcher Jr, then we find the Bullock Families, and one Thomas Murrell, who we even find the Ball families of General Washington. Now when Hudson Johnson and wife Agness left Williamson Co. Tn for lands of bartons Creek Robertson Co Tn. They will settle there on Bartons Creek by General James Randolph Robertson who owned the Iron Furnace on Bartons Creek and Harpeth River. Well most likely they traveled the Harpeth River coming out of Williamson Co. Tn. ( Note three our other Johnson Families on this River and on Bartons Creek but in other Counties) Now Rev. Thomas Murrell and his Wife the widow of James Johnson of Henry Co. Va. moved to Williamson Co. Tn where he had two brothers living. By 1806 he too is found in Dickson Co. Tn preaching. In 1843 Rev. Thomas Murrell's son is the administrator of my Agness Johnson estate. Now lets go back even further into the First Shropshire connections that can be found in 1698- to 1703 era Rev. St. John SHropshire a Anglin Church minister is preaching to the fore father of General James Randolph Robertson one Christopher Robertson here in this CHurch you will also find the Ball family (Fore Runner of General George Washington who gave General Robertson his commission) The families in this Church are also some of my Fore fathers Now the Rev. St. John Shropshires widow will re marry a Thomas Stonehouse neighbor of the Thornton Families whose families will be found on Rockfish River and following Col. William Eaton to Brunswick Co and then onto lands of Granville Co. NC ( thies lands will go into other counties when they split) Many notes on connctions on Rockfish River. "To know your neighbor is to know your Kinsmen" This is very true prior to 1860 and the War between the States. A lot of knowledge can be gained when you study the LAND our fore fathers came too as they came there with kinsman. Tony L. Johnson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianaArney1956 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9548.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have anything on an Eli Robinson, I do have some Robinsons & Herd/Hurds in my database. Have you check in Lee County Virginia for these people? I have found a lot of people married in Hawkins County but lived in Virginia. I do have a Sarah Hurd b. 1867 but no spouse for her as yet. Diana darney@woh.rr.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Cousin Greetings I am gathering a lot on the DNA Families of Great Grandpa Eli Thomas Curtis. Ruth Gavett was my point of contact DNA Project is here http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Curtis%20DNA%20Data%20Base/<http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Curtis%20DNA%20Data%20Base/> If you want to read some very lengthy files on HOW OUR Joint families are connected I will be glad to send. >From a Math prospective with the Counties of NC breaking up the allied families of Johnson-Johnston-Curtis-Hatcher-Stoval-Rentfo Landrum or Landon-McElyea-Boone-Combs-Murrell-Fields-Matlock-Shelton-Sim or Symes-Minor are in two Counties of NC prior to the splits in Counties they are and Rowan County NC (Roan) County and Granville County NC Here is but a few of the inter connections and how they connect: My Notes: Daniel Boone comes off the Same Royal Lines as General James Randolph Robertson. All the Randolph men of Colonial Virginia are descendants of Sir Humphrey De Bohun. Which include President Thomas Jefferson of Tuckahoe Creek. Tuckahoe Creek is where my and Pegs matching DNA is fatherest Traced back to one Michael Johnson died 1719 who married to Sarah Watson. Tuckahoe Creek and its water ways has many of the families of Williamson Dickson, and Humphreys Co. fore fathers on it: Benjamin Hatcher, Edward Hatcher, Thomas Cocke (LTC RICHARD COCK and Doodes Minor cousin lines of Gen. Washington),Gilbert Elam, Benjamin Ward, William Randolph, Charles Hudson, William Burton, William Pope (Pope families of Gen. Washington) Henry Trents family of Richard Cox, Charles Hudson William Witt and brother William Witt, Jane Valentine married to Peter Ware, Leonard Henley, Thomas Murrell Sr. These Lines of Sir Humphrey DeBohun are also connected to the De Montague Lines which have some of the descendants of LTC Richard Cocke of colonial Virginia in them, which include The Doodes Minor families and President George Washington and his wife Martha Dandridge whose cousin is married to Patrick Henry who was first married to a Shelton whose family is married to the Medlock-Matlock families of Humphreys and Dickson Co Tn. Of note is the Dandridge familes were married to the Custis- Curtis families of Colonial Virginia. Patrick Henry's borhter was Capt. John Symes whose cousin was Adam Symes married to an Isham whose sister was married into the William Randolph Lines of Tuckahoe Creek. Adam Symes off spring are the Neighbors of Hudson Johnson when he bought his lands in Washington Co NC now Hawkins Co. Tn (James Bartlett Simms. Whose families are in Rev. Thomas Murrells Church on Big Springs. Colonel Donelson (Donaldson) is found also connected to General James Randolph Robertson also "reported" to be a William Hatcher descendant. Col. Donaldson son Stokley Donaldson sold lands in Carters Valley to Hudson Johnson in 1783. Hudson Johnson-Johnston settled on Big Creek with Rev. Thomas Murrell. This is the Creek James Robertson and wife Charlotte Reeves (Rives or Reaves) lived on before founding Nashville. Of Note is Hudson Johnson resettled on Bartons Creek where General James Roberston at one time owned the Iron Furnace there. Also of note is the trade George Rive is who Charolette Rives is reported to descend from. One needs to look at Cross connections there to the Henley Families. Leonard Henley Bullock, is off the Lenoard Henley families associated with Tuckahoe Creek Johnson and allied families in 1744. Lenoard Henley Bullock was the neighbor of the William Payne Jr Families. Leonard Henley Bullock is also a cousin lines of Susannah Turner married to Terisha Johnston of Nut Bush Creek Mecklenburg Co and Bute CO NC. The cousin lines of Lenoard Henley Bullock are also found on Nutbush Creek they are Lenoard Henley Sims and Lenoard Henley Bullock. This is where we find John Johnson buying lands on Nut Bush Creek from John Robertson ( Father of Gen. James Randolph Robertson) in Brunswick CoVa. Terisha Johnston, Stephen Johnson and John Johns sell these lands. Terisha Johnston is the fore father of Len Henley Johnson of Huumphreys Co. Tn. and yes he gets his name from Len Henly of Tuckahoe Creek. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Pruett<mailto:jpruett419@bellsouth.net> To: Tony L Johnson<mailto:TonyempireOre@msn.com> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Curtis and Hatcher families of Humphreys Co., TN Tony, I saw your message in the Williamson Co., TN, digest, and believe we may have corresponded several years ago. I am a descendant of the Eli Thomas Curtis, Joshua Curtis line in Humphreys County. Joshua's wife was Martha Hatcher, daughter of John Hatcher and Henrietter Landrum. Your posting mentioned Curtis and Hatcher DNA projects. Can you tell me who is in charge of them? I do not know of any male Curtis or Hatcher descendants but am interested in comparing my personal information about both lines. Joan Pruett

Just wanted to tell Hord family poster that it was with real pleasure that we knew, Eldridge (Bucky) Hord. Bucky was an Annapolis graduate and so was his lifetime friend and ?my cousin, Henry (Pat) Richardson. Bucky came to a couple of our reunions in Rogersville. The Richardson, Hord and??Ellis family?associations pre-date the Civil War. Anyway your relative, Bucky Hord, was a friend enjoyed by all (well most all anyway) Charles Ray Richardson -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-request@rootsweb.com To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2009 3:01 am Subject: TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 131 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hord family Hawkins Co., TN (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:48:52 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Hord family Hawkins Co., TN To: <TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1245545334.62599@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shhorton Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2787.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Epps Hord of Rutherford Co. was a son of William Hord and Nancy Gibbon of Hawkins Co. TN. They had 4 other children Stanwix v.1798 b.1800(my gggrdfather), William 1807-41 no child, and Lucretia. Epps(Eppes) was the maiden name of Nancy's mother, Anne Eppes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the TNHAWKIN list administrator, send an email to TNHAWKIN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNHAWKIN mailing list, send an email to TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 131 ****************************************

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shhorton Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2787.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thomas Epps Hord of Rutherford Co. was a son of William Hord and Nancy Gibbon of Hawkins Co. TN. They had 4 other children Stanwix v.1798,Eldridge b.1800(my gggrdfather), William 1807-41 no child, and Lucretia. Epps(Eppes) was the maiden name of Nancy's mother, Anne Eppes. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rreeder45 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2021.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Julia, Please contact me at rreeder45@gmail.com. I am your cousin, your grandmother and my grandmother Mary M Rice were sisters. I have the Rice family info and pictures. Robert Reeder Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vrharmon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9544.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Michelle, Here's the information that I have now, including the updates from your information. Shows to have been born between 1797 and 1803, in Hawkins County, TN. Source: Familysearch.com, LDS website. A David Harmon shows to have been in the War of 1812, assigned to Captain Georg Argenbright's Company of Volunteer Riflemen in the East Tennessee Militia. Also in this company was William Bailey, who probably became his father in law. Source: Tennessee State Archives microfilm of War of 1812, book 1, number 26-G-2-2 In 1815, In Hawkins County, TN county deeds register, James Segine transferred a deed to David Harmon. Book w, page 424. In William, "Flea Buck" Bailey's will, dated 30 May 1828, David Harmon is mentioned as the husband of a beneficiary, Sally Dougla Harmon. His daughter, Jude Harmon, was also mentioned. The 1830 Tennessee census shows David married with 6 children. He shows to have been married to Sarah Bailey, daughter of William Bailey. (Source: Ancestry.com) The 1840 Illinois census shows David living in Johnson County, IL, with one female between 5 to 10 years old, another between 20 to 30 years old, 2 males under 6 years old, and 2 males between 5 and 10 years old. According to the same census, Sarah is shown as the head of the house in Hawkins County, TN. David Harmon was married to Martha Eubanks on Feb 11, 1847, in Johnson County, IL. Source: Jordan Dodd, "Illinois Marriages to 1850" (Database online S) Also, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT, Microfilm 0964808. David was shown as Daniel Harmon. David & Martha resided in District 2,Johnson, IL according to the 1850 Census. Living with them was David's children from his previous marriage to Sarah Bailey (?), William, John, and Nancy, as well as 2 chidren of Martha and David, Jesse J. and George H. According to the 1860 Missouri census, David & Martha resided in German Township, BolIinger County, MO. According to the 1870 Missouri census, David & Martha resided in German Township, BolIinger County, MO. David Harmon must have died before the census was actually taken in 1880. In this census, Martha is shown as the head o the houshold and a widow. She lived in Bollinger County, MO. Don't look for a will in Tennesse, since he died in Missouri. Thanks, Ray Harmon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am looking for information on Lewis Anderson born abt 1794 NC or VA and his daughter Mary Ann born abt 1832 in Hawkins Co. Lewis lived in Hawkins Co 1820-1840 in 1850 he lived in Hancock Co. 1860-1870 he was back in Hawkins Co. His wife's name was Zilpha born abt 1800 NC.     1850 Subdivision 32, Hancock TN   Lewis Anderson    51 Eliza Anderson     18 James Anderson   13 Lively Anderson      9 Mary An               16 Zith                      50   1860  District 3, Hawkins Co.   Lewis     61 Zilpha    60 Eliza      27 William  33 James    22   1870 District 3, Hawkins Co.   Lewis     70 Zilpha    70 Eliza      40     Thanks, Jolene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chappellsue28 Surnames: Lane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9547.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks, Its not for me, but for another researcher working on the Lanes, trying to find out the parents of this man. but I will pass this on to her to see if she wants to follow up on it. Sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kaitysmom Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9547.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sue, Here is database for Tennessee Death Certificates 1949-2005. You can search there for him: http://register.shelby.tn.us/index.php I do caution that while this database is a great starting point, not all records are represented here. I have found many missing records that are filed with the state but not on this index. Hope this helps. Melissa Barker Genealogist for Tennessee and Kentucky E-Mail: kaitysmom@peoplestel.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chappellsue28 Surnames: Lane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9547/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone do a lookup for a Death record for an Edward/Edgar Lane b 1885 in Nc and moved to Tn after 1920. He died around 1950 in Surgoinsville maybe. Thanks, sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sue, This is your "Ballard" cousin. The Shelby County site is great, but your dates are on the edge. I you don't find them in the index, you will have to ask the State Archives to look for them. I think that the online index only goes to 1928. Unfortunately, this index only goes to 1928- leaving quite a gap. I will be going to Nashville later this summer and will be happy to look it up for you if you cannot find it on either index. I have family in Hawkins county. This is where Delphia Ballard moved after she married Thomas Coldwell. My Beals family is here also. Cyndy On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:42 PM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com < gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: chappellsue28 > Surnames: Lane > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9547/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Can anyone do a lookup for a Death record for an Edward/Edgar Lane b 1885 > in Nc and moved to Tn after 1920. He died around 1950 in Surgoinsville > maybe. > > Thanks, > sue > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Hale Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3102.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if it is possible or not. Most of the obits that I have found were in the Kingsport Newspaper, but they didn't have one for Silas Hale. I guess it depends upon whether he died in Rogersville or was just buried there. His son, Samuel Miller Hale, registered for the draft on 5 June 1917 in Cherokee County, NC, and had a wife and two children at that time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: louisebrode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3102.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you think it is possible for me to obtain a obituitary for silas in the Rogersville newspaper in the library? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.