Bob, William Walling was born 25 Dec. 1759 and he is supposed to have died in 1838. His pension does not give his death date. He was in the battle at King's Mountain. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Betty Hughes To: Bob Betty Hughes ; TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Rev. War Patriots Buried in Hawkins Co., TN Cont. Just received a new Patriot: Alexander Ballard 1751-1839 Add to List. Samuel Spears 1760-1837 alsohave dates of 1761-1838 HELP Wiliam Staleton 1760--1814 or 1818 Nottley Thomas 1751- William Thurman 1759- John Towner 1757- Alexander Trent 1759-1841 William Walling 1757- Benjamin Wallis 1755- Alexander Williams 1738-1830 William Wiliams 1757- Johb Wllis 1764- Francis Winstead 1758- Michael Yaws 1750- Please keep n mind this lst is by no means inclusive. It only contains names of Patriots documented by SAR and DAR. By most counts, there are 2-3 times this many buried in Hawkins Co. TN. Please help if we need dates. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:47 PM To: TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Subject: Rev. War Patriots Buried in Hawkins Co., TN Cont. William Russell 1759-1840 John Sawel Michael Shanks -1836 Aaron Silver 1756- James Simmonds, Sr. 1759- James Simmons 1758- William Sisk 1760- William Skelton 1760- John Smith 1754- John Sowell 1759-- 1825 Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dan, Are your Moores from Hawkins County? My Moore line was there early then in Grainger and also in Claiborne. Have you done the DNA test on your Moore line, and if so, which of the Moore groups are you a member of? Roberta Estes Please note that I have changed my e-mail address to robertajestes@att.net. I also use alternate e-mails of bobbi48114@yahoo.com and roberta@dnaexplain.com. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D. MOORE Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:38 AM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHAWKIN] regarding subject matter for the list I contribute here so seldom, but I need to voice my approval and agreement that any info can be useful to someone. I get 'Distant Crossroads' and enjoy it. Though some of the old court filings get a little tedious and long, it is overall enjoyable and worth the money. I thank the nice people who put it together. It is not an eay task. I am fortunate in that one of my cousins spent years doing research on our family and it is all bound in a fine looseleaf binder for ready reference. We have a town named after our ancestors in Hawkins County. However, I still find tiny items here and there relating to ancestors and related families and I enjoy locating them. I have also 'met' some great correspondents thru this site which I continue to exchange with on a variety of subjects. Keep up the good work folks. Dan Moore, Jr. Lubbock, Texas --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> wrote: From: Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 12:19 AM I for one find all the information regarding Hawkins County very interesting and read most of the emails people have sent regarding information, I have found some of my ancestors listed amongst many of the people of Hawkins County. On another list I belong to, it came down to a very small article that helped the brick walls in my family search and one never knows when a name may be mentioned that will drive a wedge into that chink. I also enjoy reading when someone did find a great discovery about their ancestor, it gives me some hope that maybe someday I may be able to gather more information Pine, Morris is my main research for Hawkins County. I found that my great-grandmother's brother John Pine married Nancy Shanks and Shanks are related to the Lawson's of Hawkins County and many other names, if I hadn't read the emails, I wouldn't have seen some of the relations. My great-grandmother Mary Pine married my great-grandfather George W. Morris who I found was living with his sister in the 1860 census and were married in December 1860. I also am finding what great history Hawkins County has and the people who settled this part of Tennessee and the different counties one needs to look at as well when searching Hawkins County. Without information provided who would have known so much about this county, its ties with the revolutionary war, the civil war, etc.. This is also one of the most active lists I belong to besides Massachusetts, others I have to see if I am still subscribed so please continue everyone to provide information and names. Right now I am housebound for a few weeks after a heart attack and this is my refuge. Katherine Bailey (Pine, Morris, McMahon, Gilligan and so many others I am still trying to discover) "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known" Carl Sagan In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:02:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tonyempireore@msn.com writes: Thanks Jackie I appreciate your support and confidence Tony L. Johnson Librarian for NC & VA for JJJDNA site The link to the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone DNA Project is: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson/New%20Index/inde x/j-j-j_index.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson /New%20Index/index/j-j-j_index.htm>> The link to the J/J/J Research site is: <http://freepag es.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnsonsofva/johnsonfamiliesofvaresearch .htm<about:blank>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline McDonald<mailto:jgrrobinson@charter.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list Tony, I apologize that someone felt that your information was not pertinent. Your information IS just the type of information that this list was made for. This list is for Hawkins County TN Genealogy and History. Your information more that fulfills that criteria. 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Do you have any information on William Williams or Alexander Williams? Jody -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Jones Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:28 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Rev. War Patriots Buried in Hawkins Co., TN Bob, William Walling was born 25 Dec. 1759 and he is supposed to have died in 1838. His pension does not give his death date. He was in the battle at King's Mountain. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Betty Hughes To: Bob Betty Hughes ; TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Rev. War Patriots Buried in Hawkins Co., TN Cont. Just received a new Patriot: Alexander Ballard 1751-1839 Add to List. Samuel Spears 1760-1837 alsohave dates of 1761-1838 HELP Wiliam Staleton 1760--1814 or 1818 Nottley Thomas 1751- William Thurman 1759- John Towner 1757- Alexander Trent 1759-1841 William Walling 1757- Benjamin Wallis 1755- Alexander Williams 1738-1830 William Wiliams 1757- Johb Wllis 1764- Francis Winstead 1758- Michael Yaws 1750- Please keep n mind this lst is by no means inclusive. It only contains names of Patriots documented by SAR and DAR. By most counts, there are 2-3 times this many buried in Hawkins Co. TN. Please help if we need dates. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:47 PM To: TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Subject: Rev. War Patriots Buried in Hawkins Co., TN Cont. William Russell 1759-1840 John Sawel Michael Shanks -1836 Aaron Silver 1756- James Simmonds, Sr. 1759- James Simmons 1758- William Sisk 1760- William Skelton 1760- John Smith 1754- John Sowell 1759-- 1825 Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am from the Lawson's but have to see just where from i know Hawkins TN. Debbie Gibson Adams County, IL http://www.genealogytrails.com/ill/adams/ St. Francois, Missouri http://genealogytrails.com/mo/stfranc/ My Angel's Pages http://www.sages-spirit-wings.com Free Stuff In Quincy http://www.fsiq.org ________________________________ From: Bob Betty Hughes <bandbhughes@webtv.net> To: Bob Betty Hughes <bandbhughes@webtv.net>; TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:15:04 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Rev. War Patriots Buried Hawkins Co. TN Continued: Moses johnson 1740-1834 William Johnson 1745-1833 Daniel Jones, Sr. 1757-1841 James Laren 1762- Jacob Lawson 1761-1833 Mormon Lawson 1745- Thomas Lee 1729-1816 John Leonard 1754-1841 George Levisey 1764-1837 John Light 1765- George Long 1756- Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:08 PM To: Bob Betty Hughes, TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Rev. War Patriots Buried Hawkins Co. TN Continued: John Cantrell 1745-1836 Jacob Charlton 1743-1834 Pharoah Cobb 1752- William Cocke Benjamin Coffee 1745-1834 James Cooper 1758-1849 John Dodson 1752-1825 ThomasEpperson 1760- John Frishs Daniel Flora 1753-1841 Arthur Galbaith 1728-1818 Thomas Hammon 1760-1834 Nathaniel Hnderson 1736-1794 Robert Hensley 1758- Joel Hicks John Hicks 1760- George Hoss 1758- Amis House William Jewell 1741-1844 Enos Johnson 1751-1836 Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:47 PM To: TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Subject: Rev. War Patriots Buried Hawkins Co. TN O. K., per Barbara's suggerstion, here comes: Thomas Amis 1744-1797 Ephraim Andrews 1720-1807 Bartlet Belcher 1764-1848 James Bell 1761- Henry Blevins 1753-1847 John Barnard 1755-1813 William Boin 1754- Alexander Ballard 1750-1839 Reuben Boin 1744-1839 Ambrose Brewer 1753-1855 Wiliam Bond 1753- Littleton Brooks 1756-1840 Reuben Bowen 1744-1839 Hnry Buren 1757-1823 Frederick Burkett 1750- Thomas Brooks 1758- William Bussell 1759-1840 Joseph Bishop 1763-1845 Robert Campbell 1759-1841 If anyone has better dates than these, I welcome your reply. More coming Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Tony: Is this your William Shropshire born 5-13-1760 NC died 8-10-1835 TN Pvt. NC mar'd. Elizabeth Hurt PNSR and Widow WPNS Do you have copy of his Pension App? Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Johnson Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots Also another good clue that is over looked is where and who gave information about a patriots service, especially those they served with. Make sure you note who they served under as it was more then likely a Militia from their home area. Note the names and what research has been done on the people giving statements. The Captain the Patriot served under in a Militia is usually found on the same River way as the patriot. Might not be the same County as Creeks, Mountain Tops and Rivers were used as Boundaries for County Lines. The basic means of transportation was by River and most Roads where laid out following a River or Creek path. Boy DID I ever look this one above just recently LOL on the Shropshire Families, some of which came to Hawkins Co. TN. I overlooked a Cousin's service record (William Shropshire) of Joel Shropshire recorder for Hawkins Co Tn until 1803. His Captains William Shropshire served under is what I overlooked. When I started checking this Capt. I was able to place a few more of my direct relatives together serving with this same Capt. Joel Shropshire married Mary Polly Hudson daughter of Hudson Johnson and wife Agness. Hudson Johnson lived on Big Creek his deeds for this lands were in Washington Co. NC when he came there in 1782 with Rev. Thomas Murrell. I still can not figure out the County line changes for Surry Co NC and who was claiming certain creeks. Or was there a Conflict between Counties claiming the same areas as this often happened. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Hallie Garner<mailto:hallie.garner@gmail.com> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots I have proven a number of DAR Patriots that are ancestors of people who came to Hawkins Co. They are not buried in Hawkins Co, but one is probably buried in Hancock Co. Even if the people came to Hawkins Co. later than the Patriots are from VA or NC they can still count. I have scanned my approved papers for these patriots: *Zachariah Blankenbeckler, VA* (ancestor of both the Becklers and Blankens of Hawkins Co.), *Henry Wax, PA, Valentine Boyer, PA, Casper Winck, PA, Samuel Amyx, VA*, (ancestors of all the descendants of Henry Price of Hawkins Co.), *Joseph Cole, VA, Jenkin Williams, Israel Cole, NY, John Marks, VA* (ancestors of the Becklers of Hawkins and Hancock and some of the Coles), and *Daniel Heck, MD, Batt Crowder, VA* (ancestors of many of the Hecks of Hawkins Co., TN), *Richard Green, NC *(ancestor of the Greenes of Hancock, Hawkins, Hamblen, Grainger) *John Cantwell, SC* (ancestors of most of the Cantwells and many Greenes, Seals, Trents of Hancock Co.), *Reuben Weathers, NC, *(ancestor of the James P. Drinnon family of Hancock County). I am willing to send by email copies of my papers to anyone that will send me their exact line to the patriot desired. Having these papers would mean that you would only have to prove your line up to the point it joins with mine. Many people have been able to hook on my papers already to join DAR, and there is probably no reason why it wouldn't help them join SAR. Hallie Price Garner, descendant of all the men named above. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hallie: That is an extremly nice offer. However, for SAR, we would need a stamped Record Copy of our app, but that only cost $10.00 and we could share 1 copy with many. Chances are good that if you have a Rev. War Patriot now buied in Hancock County he was buried in Hawkins County when he died. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Hallie Garner Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:01 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots I have proven a number of DAR Patriots that are ancestors of people who came to Hawkins Co. They are not buried in Hawkins Co, but one is probably buried in Hancock Co. Even if the people came to Hawkins Co. later than the Patriots are from VA or NC they can still count. I have scanned my approved papers for these patriots: *Zachariah Blankenbeckler, VA* (ancestor of both the Becklers and Blankens of Hawkins Co.), *Henry Wax, PA, Valentine Boyer, PA, Casper Winck, PA, Samuel Amyx, VA*, (ancestors of all the descendants of Henry Price of Hawkins Co.), *Joseph Cole, VA, Jenkin Williams, Israel Cole, NY, John Marks, VA* (ancestors of the Becklers of Hawkins and Hancock and some of the Coles), and *Daniel Heck, MD, Batt Crowder, VA* (ancestors of many of the Hecks of Hawkins Co., TN), *Richard Green, NC *(ancestor of the Greenes of Hancock, Hawkins, Hamblen, Grainger) *John Cantwell, SC* (ancestors of most of the Cantwells and many Greenes, Seals, Trents of Hancock Co.), *Reuben Weathers, NC, *(ancestor of the James P. Drinnon family of Hancock County). I am willing to send by email copies of my papers to anyone that will send me their exact line to the patriot desired. Having these papers would mean that you would only have to prove your line up to the point it joins with mine. Many people have been able to hook on my papers already to join DAR, and there is probably no reason why it wouldn't help them join SAR. Hallie Price Garner, descendant of all the men named above. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jeff: Many times it was just the county lines being changed. One of my SAR Patriots from VA lived in the same house but over the time, it set in 3 counties. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:06 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Did they move to the county, or was the County moved to them? In early days of eastern Tennessee, the county lines changed a lot. One question I usually find myself asking is did the county move to cover my ancestors, or did they move to another county physically? Jeff -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG Flockmaster, International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists http://ibssg.org/blacksheep/ http://bsmeadow.blogspot.com/ Blacksheep's Meadow http://www.flickr.com/photos/7764576@N05/ Photostream ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bob, Good. I will send you an e mail privately and you can send me some names when you are ready. I will send them back to you and you can post them. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:37 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Barbara: You are probably 100% right. My list is a hand wriiten list take from DAR and SAR records. Suppose I could send maybe 15-20 a day. I have about 200 names and dates. Thanks for the suggestion. Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:02 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Bob, I know you have been trying to get this chapter off the ground for a long time and I think you would get more of the response you are looking for as to starting your chapter if you could let us in on just who the patriots are that you have found. I for one have a lot of different ancestors from Hawkins Co. and wouldn't know which one to start asking about first. Also if you posted the list of patriots it might help fuel some searches and maybe give some of us a start on whittling down those brick walls. If the task of copying the names seems like it's too much I would like to offer my help and type the names for you. I also believe that if some of us just took maybe 25 names and typed them for you we would have the list done in an instant. If you have a scanner you can send them that way or you could send them by regular mail. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:38 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Sherry: My ist s done by hand from the SAR and DAR record books. I don't have them all typed online. And of course m list only contains names of Patriots documented by DAR and SAR. There may be that many more. That's what I am looking for in addition to an SAR chapter in Hawkins Co. "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: sherry arnold Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:11 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Bob, Do you have a list of the Rev Soldiers buried in Hawkins Co? Would you be so kind as to share it, as Tony Johnson does his materials. I think it is wonderful that he is so generous with his notes. Sherry MeltonArnold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <bandbhughes@webtv.net> To: <TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters > While I realize many or most on this list don't live in Hawkins Co., TN, i > is still beyond me why there is NO interest i a DAR or SAR Chapter here I > have over 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins Co., TN. Havebeen trying > to charter the State of Franklin SAR Chapter for 2 years to no avail. > I live nearly 1,000 miles round trip from Hawkins Co., but am willing to > do what ever I can to form a SAR Chapter here. Could I get some help?????? > Bob Hughes, Past Pres. > TNSSAR > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the > credit. > Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bob William Shropshire is a cousin to my uncle in Law Joel Shropshire of Hawkins Co. Tn. I will send you what I have on him off site. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Betty Hughes<mailto:bandbhughes@webtv.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots Tony: Is this your William Shropshire born 5-13-1760 NC died 8-10-1835 TN Pvt. NC mar'd. Elizabeth Hurt PNSR and Widow WPNS Do you have copy of his Pension App? Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Johnson Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 1:38 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots Also another good clue that is over looked is where and who gave information about a patriots service, especially those they served with. Make sure you note who they served under as it was more then likely a Militia from their home area. Note the names and what research has been done on the people giving statements. The Captain the Patriot served under in a Militia is usually found on the same River way as the patriot. Might not be the same County as Creeks, Mountain Tops and Rivers were used as Boundaries for County Lines. The basic means of transportation was by River and most Roads where laid out following a River or Creek path. Boy DID I ever look this one above just recently LOL on the Shropshire Families, some of which came to Hawkins Co. TN. I overlooked a Cousin's service record (William Shropshire) of Joel Shropshire recorder for Hawkins Co Tn until 1803. His Captains William Shropshire served under is what I overlooked. When I started checking this Capt. I was able to place a few more of my direct relatives together serving with this same Capt. Joel Shropshire married Mary Polly Hudson daughter of Hudson Johnson and wife Agness. Hudson Johnson lived on Big Creek his deeds for this lands were in Washington Co. NC when he came there in 1782 with Rev. Thomas Murrell. I still can not figure out the County line changes for Surry Co NC and who was claiming certain creeks. Or was there a Conflict between Counties claiming the same areas as this often happened. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Hallie Garner<mailto:hallie.garner@gmail.com<mailto:hallie.garner@gmail.com>> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots I have proven a number of DAR Patriots that are ancestors of people who came to Hawkins Co. They are not buried in Hawkins Co, but one is probably buried in Hancock Co. Even if the people came to Hawkins Co. later than the Patriots are from VA or NC they can still count. I have scanned my approved papers for these patriots: *Zachariah Blankenbeckler, VA* (ancestor of both the Becklers and Blankens of Hawkins Co.), *Henry Wax, PA, Valentine Boyer, PA, Casper Winck, PA, Samuel Amyx, VA*, (ancestors of all the descendants of Henry Price of Hawkins Co.), *Joseph Cole, VA, Jenkin Williams, Israel Cole, NY, John Marks, VA* (ancestors of the Becklers of Hawkins and Hancock and some of the Coles), and *Daniel Heck, MD, Batt Crowder, VA* (ancestors of many of the Hecks of Hawkins Co., TN), *Richard Green, NC *(ancestor of the Greenes of Hancock, Hawkins, Hamblen, Grainger) *John Cantwell, SC* (ancestors of most of the Cantwells and many Greenes, Seals, Trents of Hancock Co.), *Reuben Weathers, NC, *(ancestor of the James P. Drinnon family of Hancock County). I am willing to send by email copies of my papers to anyone that will send me their exact line to the patriot desired. Having these papers would mean that you would only have to prove your line up to the point it joins with mine. Many people have been able to hook on my papers already to join DAR, and there is probably no reason why it wouldn't help them join SAR. 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Bob, I know you have been trying to get this chapter off the ground for a long time and I think you would get more of the response you are looking for as to starting your chapter if you could let us in on just who the patriots are that you have found. I for one have a lot of different ancestors from Hawkins Co. and wouldn't know which one to start asking about first. Also if you posted the list of patriots it might help fuel some searches and maybe give some of us a start on whittling down those brick walls. If the task of copying the names seems like it's too much I would like to offer my help and type the names for you. I also believe that if some of us just took maybe 25 names and typed them for you we would have the list done in an instant. If you have a scanner you can send them that way or you could send them by regular mail. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:38 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Sherry: My ist s done by hand from the SAR and DAR record books. I don't have them all typed online. And of course m list only contains names of Patriots documented by DAR and SAR. There may be that many more. That's what I am looking for in addition to an SAR chapter in Hawkins Co. "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: sherry arnold Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:11 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Bob, Do you have a list of the Rev Soldiers buried in Hawkins Co? Would you be so kind as to share it, as Tony Johnson does his materials. I think it is wonderful that he is so generous with his notes. Sherry MeltonArnold ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <bandbhughes@webtv.net> To: <TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters > While I realize many or most on this list don't live in Hawkins Co., TN, i > is still beyond me why there is NO interest i a DAR or SAR Chapter here I > have over 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins Co., TN. Havebeen trying > to charter the State of Franklin SAR Chapter for 2 years to no avail. > I live nearly 1,000 miles round trip from Hawkins Co., but am willing to > do what ever I can to form a SAR Chapter here. Could I get some help?????? > Bob Hughes, Past Pres. > TNSSAR > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the > credit. > Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Tony - followup re a personal note I sent you two weeks back. I'm sure that you can tell by the many well wisher's and supporter's that all appreciate what you and other's have done. Some must not realize there are "shut-ins", illnesses, age, travel distance, etc that prevent them from visiting Hw County and surrounding area's. Along with you, Shella, Mr. Goins and other's have provided more help than most realize. I've been at this for 60 year's and know that the more information disseminated, the more other's glean. Tony, I'm sure you recall the day's when the Hawkins County Court Records were in complete disarray [I obtained originals of many of my relations in the mid 60's, but it took folks like you and many other's to get this corrected.] I applaud you and the other's doing what you do for aiding other's and preserving a bit of our history. I join Dan Moore and other's who thank you, for what you've doing and have done. Hang in there and keep up the good work. Best wishes, Vernon Drewa, Cdr. USN, (Ret.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. MOORE" <dmortex@yahoo.com> To: <tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] regarding subject matter for the list I contribute here so seldom, but I need to voice my approval and agreement that any info can be useful to someone. I get 'Distant Crossroads' and enjoy it. Though some of the old court filings get a little tedious and long, it is overall enjoyable and worth the money. I thank the nice people who put it together. It is not an eay task. I am fortunate in that one of my cousins spent years doing research on our family and it is all bound in a fine looseleaf binder for ready reference. We have a town named after our ancestors in Hawkins County. However, I still find tiny items here and there relating to ancestors and related families and I enjoy locating them. I have also 'met' some great correspondents thru this site which I continue to exchange with on a variety of subjects. Keep up the good work folks. Dan Moore, Jr. Lubbock, Texas --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> wrote: From: Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 12:19 AM I for one find all the information regarding Hawkins County very interesting and read most of the emails people have sent regarding information, I have found some of my ancestors listed amongst many of the people of Hawkins County. On another list I belong to, it came down to a very small article that helped the brick walls in my family search and one never knows when a name may be mentioned that will drive a wedge into that chink. I also enjoy reading when someone did find a great discovery about their ancestor, it gives me some hope that maybe someday I may be able to gather more information Pine, Morris is my main research for Hawkins County. I found that my great-grandmother's brother John Pine married Nancy Shanks and Shanks are related to the Lawson's of Hawkins County and many other names, if I hadn't read the emails, I wouldn't have seen some of the relations. My great-grandmother Mary Pine married my great-grandfather George W. Morris who I found was living with his sister in the 1860 census and were married in December 1860. I also am finding what great history Hawkins County has and the people who settled this part of Tennessee and the different counties one needs to look at as well when searching Hawkins County. Without information provided who would have known so much about this county, its ties with the revolutionary war, the civil war, etc.. This is also one of the most active lists I belong to besides Massachusetts, others I have to see if I am still subscribed so please continue everyone to provide information and names. Right now I am housebound for a few weeks after a heart attack and this is my refuge. Katherine Bailey (Pine, Morris, McMahon, Gilligan and so many others I am still trying to discover) "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known" Carl Sagan In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:02:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tonyempireore@msn.com writes: Thanks Jackie I appreciate your support and confidence Tony L. Johnson Librarian for NC & VA for JJJDNA site The link to the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone DNA Project is: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson/New%20Index/inde x/j-j-j_index.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson /New%20Index/index/j-j-j_index.htm>> The link to the J/J/J Research site is: <http://freepag es.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnsonsofva/johnsonfamiliesofvaresearch.htm<about:blank>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline McDonald<mailto:jgrrobinson@charter.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list Tony, I apologize that someone felt that your information was not pertinent. Your information IS just the type of information that this list was made for. This list is for Hawkins County TN Genealogy and History. Your information more that fulfills that criteria. Keep posting those messages and even those that feel your information is not related to the list, just might gain a little tidbit of help one day. Jackie Robinson McDonald TNHawkin List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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I have proven a number of DAR Patriots that are ancestors of people who came to Hawkins Co. They are not buried in Hawkins Co, but one is probably buried in Hancock Co. Even if the people came to Hawkins Co. later than the Patriots are from VA or NC they can still count. I have scanned my approved papers for these patriots: *Zachariah Blankenbeckler, VA* (ancestor of both the Becklers and Blankens of Hawkins Co.), *Henry Wax, PA, Valentine Boyer, PA, Casper Winck, PA, Samuel Amyx, VA*, (ancestors of all the descendants of Henry Price of Hawkins Co.), *Joseph Cole, VA, Jenkin Williams, Israel Cole, NY, John Marks, VA* (ancestors of the Becklers of Hawkins and Hancock and some of the Coles), and *Daniel Heck, MD, Batt Crowder, VA* (ancestors of many of the Hecks of Hawkins Co., TN), *Richard Green, NC *(ancestor of the Greenes of Hancock, Hawkins, Hamblen, Grainger) *John Cantwell, SC* (ancestors of most of the Cantwells and many Greenes, Seals, Trents of Hancock Co.), *Reuben Weathers, NC, *(ancestor of the James P. Drinnon family of Hancock County). I am willing to send by email copies of my papers to anyone that will send me their exact line to the patriot desired. Having these papers would mean that you would only have to prove your line up to the point it joins with mine. Many people have been able to hook on my papers already to join DAR, and there is probably no reason why it wouldn't help them join SAR. Hallie Price Garner, descendant of all the men named above.
As a "lurker", I must agree. I love to read the documents and lists of people doing things. What an amazing history our country has had and it's there for the reading. I'm trying to locate people in this area of TN, but not necessarily this county. These lists are a real boon to me trying to either prove or eliminate areas. I wish all the TN lists had this kind of activity. Judy in Kansas. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Jones Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:16 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] regarding subject matter for the list Just goes to show you how important all kinds of information is to the list and to Distant Crossroads. I just love the old court documents and find it endlessly fascinating to read about court cases and the reasons people way back in history ended up in court - even when they are not my own ancestors. I also love old deeds, petitions, tax lists and all that good stuff that might seem tedious to some people, but are just my cup of tea! Not everything pleases everyone, but I guarantee it pleases someone! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: D. MOORE To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] regarding subject matter for the list I contribute here so seldom, but I need to voice my approval and agreement that any info can be useful to someone. I get 'Distant Crossroads' and enjoy it. Though some of the old court filings get a little tedious and long, it is overall enjoyable and worth the money. I thank the nice people who put it together. It is not an eay task. I am fortunate in that one of my cousins spent years doing research on our family and it is all bound in a fine looseleaf binder for ready reference. We have a town named after our ancestors in Hawkins County. However, I still find tiny items here and there relating to ancestors and related families and I enjoy locating them. I have also 'met' some great correspondents thru this site which I continue to exchange with on a variety of subjects. Keep up the good work folks. Dan Moore, Jr. Lubbock, Texas --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> wrote: From: Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 12:19 AM I for one find all the information regarding Hawkins County very interesting and read most of the emails people have sent regarding information, I have found some of my ancestors listed amongst many of the people of Hawkins County. On another list I belong to, it came down to a very small article that helped the brick walls in my family search and one never knows when a name may be mentioned that will drive a wedge into that chink. I also enjoy reading when someone did find a great discovery about their ancestor, it gives me some hope that maybe someday I may be able to gather more information Pine, Morris is my main research for Hawkins County. I found that my great-grandmother's brother John Pine married Nancy Shanks and Shanks are related to the Lawson's of Hawkins County and many other names, if I hadn't read the emails, I wouldn't have seen some of the relations. My great-grandmother Mary Pine married my great-grandfather George W. Morris who I found was living with his sister in the 1860 census and were married in December 1860. I also am finding what great history Hawkins County has and the people who settled this part of Tennessee and the different counties one needs to look at as well when searching Hawkins County. Without information provided who would have known so much about this county, its ties with the revolutionary war, the civil war, etc.. This is also one of the most active lists I belong to besides Massachusetts, others I have to see if I am still subscribed so please continue everyone to provide information and names. Right now I am housebound for a few weeks after a heart attack and this is my refuge. Katherine Bailey (Pine, Morris, McMahon, Gilligan and so many others I am still trying to discover) "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known" Carl Sagan In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:02:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tonyempireore@msn.com writes: Thanks Jackie I appreciate your support and confidence Tony L. Johnson Librarian for NC & VA for JJJDNA site The link to the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone DNA Project is: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson/New%20Index/inde x/j-j-j_index.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson /New%20Index/index/j-j-j_index.htm>> The link to the J/J/J Research site is: <http://freepag es.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnsonsofva/johnsonfamiliesofvaresearch .htm<about:blank>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline McDonald<mailto:jgrrobinson@charter.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list Tony, I apologize that someone felt that your information was not pertinent. Your information IS just the type of information that this list was made for. This list is for Hawkins County TN Genealogy and History. Your information more that fulfills that criteria. Keep posting those messages and even those that feel your information is not related to the list, just might gain a little tidbit of help one day. Jackie Robinson McDonald TNHawkin List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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Well, I am a #1 fan of Tony's!!! He has shared tons of info with me and I so appreciate it. I, too, always read everyone's queries, it helps you understand the county. I have found that several families went from Hawkins Co to Limestone Co AL and then as a group on to Weakley Co TN. I wonder if there are others from Hawkins that made that trip. Mine were Murrells, Sims, Daughtery, and Clemons. I know the Clemons were from VA so maybe they all came to Hawkins together??? I may have asked this before, if so, please excuse, I am old!!! lol Sherry Melton Arnold
Just goes to show you how important all kinds of information is to the list and to Distant Crossroads. I just love the old court documents and find it endlessly fascinating to read about court cases and the reasons people way back in history ended up in court - even when they are not my own ancestors. I also love old deeds, petitions, tax lists and all that good stuff that might seem tedious to some people, but are just my cup of tea! Not everything pleases everyone, but I guarantee it pleases someone! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: D. MOORE To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] regarding subject matter for the list I contribute here so seldom, but I need to voice my approval and agreement that any info can be useful to someone. I get 'Distant Crossroads' and enjoy it. Though some of the old court filings get a little tedious and long, it is overall enjoyable and worth the money. I thank the nice people who put it together. It is not an eay task. I am fortunate in that one of my cousins spent years doing research on our family and it is all bound in a fine looseleaf binder for ready reference. We have a town named after our ancestors in Hawkins County. However, I still find tiny items here and there relating to ancestors and related families and I enjoy locating them. I have also 'met' some great correspondents thru this site which I continue to exchange with on a variety of subjects. Keep up the good work folks. Dan Moore, Jr. Lubbock, Texas --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> wrote: From: Kaysb@aol.com <Kaysb@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 12:19 AM I for one find all the information regarding Hawkins County very interesting and read most of the emails people have sent regarding information, I have found some of my ancestors listed amongst many of the people of Hawkins County. On another list I belong to, it came down to a very small article that helped the brick walls in my family search and one never knows when a name may be mentioned that will drive a wedge into that chink. I also enjoy reading when someone did find a great discovery about their ancestor, it gives me some hope that maybe someday I may be able to gather more information Pine, Morris is my main research for Hawkins County. I found that my great-grandmother's brother John Pine married Nancy Shanks and Shanks are related to the Lawson's of Hawkins County and many other names, if I hadn't read the emails, I wouldn't have seen some of the relations. My great-grandmother Mary Pine married my great-grandfather George W. Morris who I found was living with his sister in the 1860 census and were married in December 1860. I also am finding what great history Hawkins County has and the people who settled this part of Tennessee and the different counties one needs to look at as well when searching Hawkins County. Without information provided who would have known so much about this county, its ties with the revolutionary war, the civil war, etc.. This is also one of the most active lists I belong to besides Massachusetts, others I have to see if I am still subscribed so please continue everyone to provide information and names. Right now I am housebound for a few weeks after a heart attack and this is my refuge. Katherine Bailey (Pine, Morris, McMahon, Gilligan and so many others I am still trying to discover) "Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known" Carl Sagan In a message dated 7/11/2009 10:02:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tonyempireore@msn.com writes: Thanks Jackie I appreciate your support and confidence Tony L. Johnson Librarian for NC & VA for JJJDNA site The link to the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone DNA Project is: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson/New%20Index/inde x/j-j-j_index.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hjohnson /New%20Index/index/j-j-j_index.htm>> The link to the J/J/J Research site is: <http://freepag es.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~johnsonsofva/johnsonfamiliesofvaresearch.htm<about:blank>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline McDonald<mailto:jgrrobinson@charter.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] From the List Admin regarding subject matter for the list Tony, I apologize that someone felt that your information was not pertinent. Your information IS just the type of information that this list was made for. This list is for Hawkins County TN Genealogy and History. Your information more that fulfills that criteria. Keep posting those messages and even those that feel your information is not related to the list, just might gain a little tidbit of help one day. Jackie Robinson McDonald TNHawkin List Administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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Also another good clue that is over looked is where and who gave information about a patriots service, especially those they served with. Make sure you note who they served under as it was more then likely a Militia from their home area. Note the names and what research has been done on the people giving statements. The Captain the Patriot served under in a Militia is usually found on the same River way as the patriot. Might not be the same County as Creeks, Mountain Tops and Rivers were used as Boundaries for County Lines. The basic means of transportation was by River and most Roads where laid out following a River or Creek path. Boy DID I ever look this one above just recently LOL on the Shropshire Families, some of which came to Hawkins Co. TN. I overlooked a Cousin's service record (William Shropshire) of Joel Shropshire recorder for Hawkins Co Tn until 1803. His Captains William Shropshire served under is what I overlooked. When I started checking this Capt. I was able to place a few more of my direct relatives together serving with this same Capt. Joel Shropshire married Mary Polly Hudson daughter of Hudson Johnson and wife Agness. Hudson Johnson lived on Big Creek his deeds for this lands were in Washington Co. NC when he came there in 1782 with Rev. Thomas Murrell. I still can not figure out the County line changes for Surry Co NC and who was claiming certain creeks. Or was there a Conflict between Counties claiming the same areas as this often happened. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Hallie Garner<mailto:hallie.garner@gmail.com> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR & SAR & Hawkins Co. Patriots I have proven a number of DAR Patriots that are ancestors of people who came to Hawkins Co. They are not buried in Hawkins Co, but one is probably buried in Hancock Co. Even if the people came to Hawkins Co. later than the Patriots are from VA or NC they can still count. I have scanned my approved papers for these patriots: *Zachariah Blankenbeckler, VA* (ancestor of both the Becklers and Blankens of Hawkins Co.), *Henry Wax, PA, Valentine Boyer, PA, Casper Winck, PA, Samuel Amyx, VA*, (ancestors of all the descendants of Henry Price of Hawkins Co.), *Joseph Cole, VA, Jenkin Williams, Israel Cole, NY, John Marks, VA* (ancestors of the Becklers of Hawkins and Hancock and some of the Coles), and *Daniel Heck, MD, Batt Crowder, VA* (ancestors of many of the Hecks of Hawkins Co., TN), *Richard Green, NC *(ancestor of the Greenes of Hancock, Hawkins, Hamblen, Grainger) *John Cantwell, SC* (ancestors of most of the Cantwells and many Greenes, Seals, Trents of Hancock Co.), *Reuben Weathers, NC, *(ancestor of the James P. Drinnon family of Hancock County). I am willing to send by email copies of my papers to anyone that will send me their exact line to the patriot desired. Having these papers would mean that you would only have to prove your line up to the point it joins with mine. Many people have been able to hook on my papers already to join DAR, and there is probably no reason why it wouldn't help them join SAR. Hallie Price Garner, descendant of all the men named above. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Roberta: I chartered the Gen Joseph Martin Chapter in Claiborne County. Todd Williams, Pres. can get you a Marker from the V.A. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Estes Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:06 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Hi Bob, You and I have chatted before. Raleigh Dodson who died in 1793 or 1794. His son is Lazarus Dodson, also a Rev War vet, who we are setting a stone for in Claiborne County, as soon as the stone comes in. Raleigh's service record is on the same pay list as his son Lazarus which we have submitted to the SAR as documentation for Lazarus stone which is on order. I went back to Hawkins County three weeks ago for a visit and found Raleigh's original land. He is very likely buried there because he owned it when he died. Eventually, his son in-law John Sanders owned it and that land stayed in the Sanders family for generations. We know that old John Sanders, Rev War vet, is buried there in that cemetery. So there are two in the same location. Now, the cemetery is terribly grown up with weeds, but I do think I could get someone to bushhog the approach. I did make contact with the Sanders family while I was there, although they don't own the land now, they did know where it was. The cemetery is in terrible disrepair and needs desperately to be fenced. It's huge, but only 4 or 5 markers are there. It was last used in the 1800s except for the wife of John Sanders Jr who died in 1911 (second younger wife). Anyway, Raleigh Dodson is my ancestor and I'd love to have a veteran's marker set for him. I think the Sanders family would like to have a marker for old John Sanders too, but we're both worried about the cemetery just disappearing with time. I can't join the SAR because I'm a female and I can't found a DAR chapter there because I'm not in the DAR nor do I live there. I'm in Michigan. I do, however, want to honor my ancestor, which is why I went back to find his land and his grave. Roberta Estes Please note that I have changed my e-mail address to robertajestes@att.net. I also use alternate e-mails of bobbi48114@yahoo.com and roberta@dnaexplain.com. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:57 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Roberta: Doesn't matter whether you live there or not. Who is your Patriot and what are hs dates. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Estes Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 4:05 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters I have a patriot I'd like to have recognized who is buried there, but I don't live there or close either. Roberta Estes Please note that I have changed my e-mail address to robertajestes@att.net. I also use alternate e-mails of bobbi48114@yahoo.com and roberta@dnaexplain.com. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:59 PM To: TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters While I realize many or most on this list don't live in Hawkins Co., TN, i is still beyond me why there is NO interest i a DAR or SAR Chapter here I have over 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins Co., TN. Havebeen trying to charter the State of Franklin SAR Chapter for 2 years to no avail. I live nearly 1,000 miles round trip from Hawkins Co., but am willing to do what ever I can to form a SAR Chapter here. Could I get some help?????? Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Tony: Sounds good. Go to SAR website: www.sar.org There is an online app you can complete. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Johnson Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:51 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Might signed up a Son or Grandson to SAR and you as the sponsor Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Roberta Estes<mailto:robertajestes@att.net> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Hi Bob, You and I have chatted before. Raleigh Dodson who died in 1793 or 1794. His son is Lazarus Dodson, also a Rev War vet, who we are setting a stone for in Claiborne County, as soon as the stone comes in. Raleigh's service record is on the same pay list as his son Lazarus which we have submitted to the SAR as documentation for Lazarus stone which is on order. I went back to Hawkins County three weeks ago for a visit and found Raleigh's original land. He is very likely buried there because he owned it when he died. Eventually, his son in-law John Sanders owned it and that land stayed in the Sanders family for generations. We know that old John Sanders, Rev War vet, is buried there in that cemetery. So there are two in the same location. Now, the cemetery is terribly grown up with weeds, but I do think I could get someone to bushhog the approach. I did make contact with the Sanders family while I was there, although they don't own the land now, they did know where it was. The cemetery is in terrible disrepair and needs desperately to be fenced. It's huge, but only 4 or 5 markers are there. It was last used in the 1800s except for the wife of John Sanders Jr who died in 1911 (second younger wife). Anyway, Raleigh Dodson is my ancestor and I'd love to have a veteran's marker set for him. I think the Sanders family would like to have a marker for old John Sanders too, but we're both worried about the cemetery just disappearing with time. I can't join the SAR because I'm a female and I can't found a DAR chapter there because I'm not in the DAR nor do I live there. I'm in Michigan. I do, however, want to honor my ancestor, which is why I went back to find his land and his grave. Roberta Estes Please note that I have changed my e-mail address to robertajestes@att.net<mailto:robertajestes@att.net>. I also use alternate e-mails of bobbi48114@yahoo.com<mailto:bobbi48114@yahoo.com> and roberta@dnaexplain.com<mailto:roberta@dnaexplain.com>. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:57 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters Roberta: Doesn't matter whether you live there or not. Who is your Patriot and what are hs dates. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Estes Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 4:05 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters I have a patriot I'd like to have recognized who is buried there, but I don't live there or close either. Roberta Estes Please note that I have changed my e-mail address to robertajestes@att.net<mailto:robertajestes@att.net>. I also use alternate e-mails of bobbi48114@yahoo.com<mailto:bobbi48114@yahoo.com> and roberta@dnaexplain.com<mailto:roberta@dnaexplain.com>. -----Original Message----- From: tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:tnhawkin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:59 PM To: TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] DAR or SAR Chapters While I realize many or most on this list don't live in Hawkins Co., TN, i is still beyond me why there is NO interest i a DAR or SAR Chapter here I have over 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins Co., TN. Havebeen trying to charter the State of Franklin SAR Chapter for 2 years to no avail. I live nearly 1,000 miles round trip from Hawkins Co., but am willing to do what ever I can to form a SAR Chapter here. Could I get some help?????? Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That is why one needs to identify the Creek, River or Mountain their ancestor settled on, and the neighbors (kinsman) so they can trace deed records of the land marks in ones deeds. Thus establishing a time line to look into what County formed from What County Or even what State formed from What State. one has to remember that Hawkins County formed from Sullivan County, but Virginian and North Carolina claimed these same LANDS. Washington Co Va and Washington CO NC were parent Counties to the lands of what is know NC. Another clue is to make sure you record all deeds that were registered in a 3 day period as that is who traveled with who to get to these lands. Thus establishing a known travel pattern on when you research. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff<mailto:jeff@ibssg.org> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Did they move to the county,or was the County moved to them? In early days of eastern Tennessee, the county lines changed a lot. One question I usually find myself asking is did the county move to cover my ancestors, or did they move to another county physically? Jeff -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG Flockmaster, International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists http://ibssg.org/blacksheep/<http://ibssg.org/blacksheep/> http://bsmeadow.blogspot.com/<http://bsmeadow.blogspot.com/> Blacksheep's Meadow http://www.flickr.com/photos/7764576@N05/<http://www.flickr.com/photos/7764576@N05/> Photostream ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In early days of eastern Tennessee, the county lines changed a lot. One question I usually find myself asking is did the county move to cover my ancestors, or did they move to another county physically? Jeff -- Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG Flockmaster, International Blacksheep Society of Genealogists http://ibssg.org/blacksheep/ http://bsmeadow.blogspot.com/ Blacksheep's Meadow http://www.flickr.com/photos/7764576@N05/ Photostream