This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3331.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I'm also descended from Seth and Patsy Manis. You seem to know about as much as I do. I also would like to know more about where they are buried, and have a picture of any grave markers or "the Old Home Place" as they called it. I'd also dearly love to have a photo of him and/or Patsy, but have never heard if one exists. Does anyone else out there have any information?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robertson, Johnson (his wife), and possibly Hamilton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/2472.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, That's a name I haven't run across. My Robertson's were in Kentucky, and I trace back to Joseph Rainey Robertson, b. ca 1775 in Scotland, possibly the Hamilton, Lanark, SCT area. I have no information on how, when or why he arrived there. All the rest seem to have been Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, and Missouri. I have found no reference to any of them below Kentucky, and it appears they arrived in KY from Virginia. I also appear to be descended from the Hamiton group. Don't know how or why. John

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Collins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hey just wanted to know if Sarah Ann Collins that married Thomas Anderson in Hawkins County,Tn If Sarah Ann Collins, Collins families possibly melungeon.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: robinson,.bush Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/2472.1.1 Message Board Post: In your research have you come upon a Narcissa Robinson born about 1833 in Claiborne Co.? Md. John Bush

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I don't know the possible connections of the various Anderson famies of early Hawkins Co. I am not a descendant of the Andersons just the Collins family. This was just information that I have read along the journey of the search. Good luck with your research RR

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Anderson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Randy, Thank you for replying to my email about Thomas Anderson. These Anderson folks wouldn't be tied to the Swimpfield Anderson family as your Thomas Anderson was born in Ireland. This helps me determine which Anderson's might be connected and which are not. Darlene Anderson

Old Bienville Parish Newspapers This is a collection of miscellaneous records from old parish newspapers. If you have others, you are invited to submit them. 1. BIENVILLE MESSENGER, Vol.1, No.1, Oct 21 1865 through Vol. 1 No.52,Oct 13 1866 Published in Sparta La. with J.M.A. Scanland, editor. Submitted by _Lynelle Stevenson _ (mailto:lynelle3@bellsouth.net) on website _http://www.rootsweb.com/~labienvi/oldnews.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~labienvi/oldnews.htm) August 18 1866, Vol.1 No.44 Died in Bienville Parish on the 15th of July 1866, JOSEPH M. LOONEY, Esq. The deceased was an old and respected citizen, was born in Hawkins Co. Tenn. Oct. 25th 1810. He leaves a widow and several children.

I would appreciate a lookup in this book for Wetzel family. They lived around Surgoinsville from 1879 - 1950 (?). My grandfather Charles Wetzel left around 1901 for Indiana. His father was William Howard Wetzel. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thomas Anderson and wife Sarah lived in the area north of Surgoinsville , possibly closer to Church Hill. Thomas was the son of David M. and Margaret Anderson. David M. was the son of David and Elizabeth (Hardy) Anderson. David Anderson married Elizabeth Hardy in Amhersy Co. VA in 1782. David had served in the Rev. War and was b. in Ireland. This brief bit of Anderson information was from "Families of Hawkins County Tennessee 1786-1994" in an article submitted by Naomi Hopperstead. RR

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.3 Message Board Post: Here is a brief bit of information on the family of Sarah Collins Anderson as was requested. 1809 tax ;list of Hawkins Co. TN McCoy's Company lists George Collins Sr. , George Collins Jr., and James Collins. I believe these to be a father and two adult sons. George Collinbs Sr. b. ca. 1750 or likely before. George Jr. b. 1770 in VA. James Collins b. ca. 1770-1780 prob. VA. Two of the sons of George Collins (Jr) that I'm sure of , Tandy Collins moved to Floyd Co. IN 1830's and Asa Collins who raised his family in Hawkins Co. James Collins had the following children. Margaret (Peggy) b. 1790's in VA married William Wininger moved to Duibois Co. IN ca. 1836 James Collins b. ca. 1800 VA married Ruth Lucinda (?) died in Hawkins Co. 1870-1880 (I had previous information that Ruth Collins was a Leeper this has since proven to be incorrect.), William Collins b. ca. 1811 married Elizabeth Wininger moved to Dubois Co. IN ca. 1836 d. 1850 Dubois Co. IN Another son b. ca. 1810-1815 James Collins married Ruth in 1820's had following children William b. 1829 married Susan Jane Owen in Dubois Co. IN d. Dubois Co. IN 4-28-1886 Hannah b. ca. 1830 married Michael Reynolds moved to Orange Co. IN 1878 d. after 1880 James P. b. ca. 1831moved to Martin Co. IN before 1860 married Mary Barnum lived in Orange/Martin Co. IN died in Martin Co. 1880's Sarah Ann b. 1832 married Thomas Anderson remained in Hawkins Co. David b. 1833 married Nancy Barnett remained in Hawkins Co. Nancy b. ca. 1840 married Charles Lewis Rice may have moved to Scott Co. VA after 1880. Wells b. 1841 married Tempe Barnett moved to Orange Co. IN 1868-1870. d Orange Co. IN ca. 1878 Ruth b. 1846 d. 1850-1860 Hawkins Co. TN John A. Anderson The olderst son of Thomas and Sarah (Collins) Anderson also moved to Indiana in 1870's He lived for a time in Dubois Co. with his uncle William Collins. He later lived in Orange Co near his cousin Willaim R. Reynolds. He then moved back across the county line in Dubois Co where he raised his family and died. in Dubois Co. IN These members of this Collins family that moved to Indiana all lived a short distance from each other close to the community of Hillham in Dubois Co. IN which is one mile south of the Martin/Dubois Co Line and one mile west of the Dubois/Orange Co. line. Tyler please feel free to contact me directly if you would like more details on this family or my personal speculations on Ruth Collins' ancestors and where George Collins Sr. may have lived prior to arrival in Hawkins Co. RR

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Manis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3331 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of the Rev. Seth Manis and Susan Patsy Fields. I was hoping that you might be able to provide some knowledge and perhaps, if one exists, an image of him. What I know of him is this: He was born the son of William Manis (no other info known on his early family) in Bedford, VA, in Feb 1762. In 1778, he joined the fight against the British in the American Revolution. During his military service he met and married Susan Patsy Fields in Moore Co., North Carolina. She was born sometime in 1763. By 1780, they had their first child, Jacob. Sometime after the surrender of the British, they moved to Hawkins County, TN. He became a farmer and a minister (probably Baptist). I wish I knew more about his church. Stories remember him as a very generous man and he looked after others like family. He knew nothing of greed. He had 8 children that I am aware of: Jacob, William, George, James, Jesse, Elizabeth, John, and Tempa. James would be my 3rd Great Grandfa! ther, though I desperately wish that I knew more about him also. He died in 1852 after a long life and was buried on his former residence 7 miles north of Rogersville, TN on the north side of Clinth Mountain. In 1853 his wife joined him. I don’t know if their grave markers are still known and legible but if they are, I would like to get photos of them. James Manis was reportedly born in 1786 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee. He married a woman named Nancy (last name unknown). They had at least two children, Isaac (my 2nd Great Grandfather) and Joseph. I’m sure they probably had more, but lack that information as well. Most sincerely, Jeff Cheatham and family Vitruvianz@aol.com 330 453-5563 2419 Bollinger Ave NE Canton, OH 44705

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/236.345.441.512.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Message received. I have printed your message out and will hold it until I can get back to the elusive Davis family. Thank you, Joann

I believe George Lafayette Davis married Juda---- and lived in Hawkins Co. until at least 1880-. He has these children at least (from census records): Mary J. Davis, Harvey [Tipton] Davis (using other info and putting things together Ibeleive that their Harvey is Harvey Tipton Davis that married Mary Odom), William Davis, James Davis, George Davis, Sarah Davis. Since these are such common names I am not sure who they married.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3330.1 Message Board Post: Peggy, There may be a clue about Preston Lawson. Remember that Preston Lawson, Alexander Lawson and Martin Lawson were part of an estate settlement in an earlier Hawkins County Archive Project document. We know that Alexander Lawson and Martin Lawson were from Surry County and they appear to be the sons of Thomas and Sarah Twitchett Lawson of Surry County. It also appears that Thomas Lawson died before 1820--or they were divorced. Sarah had some other children living with her in 1820 including a male in the 10-16 category. This may have been Preston Lawson. It is something that we will have to look into some more. David

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/3330 Message Board Post: I know that some of you out there are looking for many early Lawson's and where they go in families. We are working in the Circuit Court records where family relationships are not stated except in certain cases. Maybe someday we will be able to get most of our families in place. I would love to get my Preston Lawson with his rightful parents. Today I found this little bit. Feb. 6th. 1837, State vs. Alem Lawson, and Richard Lawson. Peter Lawson was paid for three days at court. Hope this will help someone.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/236.345.441.512.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Joann -- that would probably be George Lafayette Davis, the youngest son of James Davis, Jr. Heck only mentions him on p. 23 as being born in 1844, he got married (doesn't say who), and that he was a preacher. I have learned from using Heck's book to be very cautious about accepting what he says at face value because I've found so many mistakes in the book; he didn't do his research very thoroughly, although he states things with certainty. Right now I have nothing further on George Lafayette.

Hello Friends and Family First of all, if you no longer want to reciece notices when the Messerville Gazette is updated, please send me an email telling me to take your name from that list. Secondly, I am sending this informtion to everyone in my email address book, which is an old one. My computer that was connected to the Internet bit the dust. The motherboard and CPU went out and in the copying three files, including my current address book, so I am haveing to reconstruct my contact list with a hard copy that is well over a year old. If you have contacted me in the last two months with a request for information, it would be helpful if you could send it again, I will answer promptly and try to be of as much help as I can. The reason that I have sent this the various lists that I belong to is that I am still requesting help on my Civil War Project. If you have a Civil War Ancestor from Haywood County, NC I would appreciate any help on family information, documents of proof [including pension or military records, marriage documents, delayed or birth records and death records] for your ancestor. I have quite a bit on the majority of the families, but at the present, I have found several families who apparently moved from Haywood shortly after the war and seem to have been invisible as I have not been able to find much on them. If you have any questions on this project, please feel free to contact me at geneslady@compascable.net or you can call me at 828-433-7003. I am also finishing third edition of The Registry - The Family of David Messer by July 1 as I have had a few requests for the David Messer book and since I have found additional families to add to this lineage since the second edition, I have decided to do a third editon. If anyone who bought on of the first two editions has any corrections or additions to their family, I would greatly appreciate this as soon as possible. Another book to be done by June 1 is The Ancestors of Ervin Otis Messer. Mary Louise Messer Patrick asked me this book two years ago for her brother and when I told her earlier this year that I would not have an entry into the awards review of The North Carolina Society of Historians, she told me, "I would be so proud if you would enter my Daddy's book", so I have decided to update the information in that book and see if the judges think it is as good as what Louise thinks. The have been some new additions to that family line also since the book was ori! ginally done.* ******** I also have converted two rolls of microfilm that I purchased from the North Carolina Archives to digital microfilm. I have the following available: Buncombe County Record of Pensions 1903-1959 C.013.90014 This digital microfilm was made from the original film that I bought from the NC State Archives. I have made this so others can utilize their time more efficiently by using their computer at home to search the records of their Civil War Veterans from Buncombe County, NC. This CD shows all payments to both Confederate Soldiers and their Widows, as well as to the Union Soldiers from these years. Some of the lists show why the soldier was receiving a pension [cause of disability], as well as where the payment was sent [City or township]. At a certain age a soldier who had in the course of his service had to take soldier at that point" was entitled to the pension whether disabled or not. Most of the men who took "the Oath of Allegiance" were still in the War at it's close, had deserted and actually joined the Union, or at a later date applied to the President of the United States for a pardon. If one of these criteria was met, the soldier or his widow could draw a Pension, either as a result of disability or attaining a certain age. The State Auditor sent lists to the Superior Court Clerk with the names and amounts of payments to be paid. A voucher paid these pensions from the office of Superior Court Clerk, who kept a detailed record of ! all payments and sent periodic reports to the State Auditor accounting for the payments required by the state. It is my wish that this CD will become a useful research source for those people either researching the Civil War or just wanting to find out more about their ancestors. Haywood County Record of Pensions 1899 - 1938 C.049.900140 This digital microfilm was made from the original film that I bought from the NC State Archives. I have made this so others can utilize their time more efficiently by using their computer at home to search the records of their Civil War Veterans from Buncombe County, NC. This CD shows payments to both Confederate Soldiers and their Widows. This roll of film the name of soldier was receiving a pension, as well as where the payment was sent [City or township]. At a certain age a soldier who had in the course of his service had to take soldier at that point" was entitled to the pension whether disabled or not. Most of the men who took "the Oath of Allegiance" were still in the War at it's close, had deserted and actually joined the Union, or at a later date applied to the President of the United States for a pardon. If one of these criteria was met, the soldier or his widow could draw a Pension, either as a result of disability or attaining a certain age. The State Auditor sent lists to the Superior Court Clerk with the names and amounts of payments and the vouchers from the state. The voucher, which paid these pensions from the office of Superior Court Clerk, was deposited into the bank and the Clerk of Superior Court kept a detailed re! cord of all payments to the veteran or widow. He then sent periodic reports to the State Auditor accounting for the payments required by the state. If a soldier or widow died while receiving a pension, the death date was included. It a veteran died within a quarter and funds were still available, the next one or two checks was allowed to the next of kin in some cases by the State Auditor. Also on this CD are images from the lost book of records that disappeard from the Haywood County Superior Court Clerk's office some years ago and was returned after being sold to a kindly soul on Ebay. This person brought the book back home to the Haywood County Superior Court Clerk's office. I made a request of the clerk to photograph the book. The lighting in the room where I was allowed to do the photographing and the quality of the writing in the book made it impossible to get all the pages to photograph for a readable image. I have included the good pages from that book, as well as the loose pages that were in it. The clerk let the loose pages be copied on a copy machine. I scanned these in and they turned out beautifully. Most all of these were assignment of agents from the pensioner for that agent to be able to get the check. Fortuantely, it gave the relationship of the pensioner to the agent, and the signature of the pensioner. These records were done on a! weekly basis when the payments to the pensioners were paid and included the name, amount of payment and address [township or other city or state]. They were pretty much the same records contained in the microfilm above for the years 1921 - 1939, except the microfilm records were ledger accounts of each pensioner [not several pensioner accounts to one page]. It is my wish that this CD will become a useful research source for those people either researching the Civil War or just wanting to find out more about their ancestors. If interested in either of these CD's, you may contact me for the price and ordering information. *********** Two of our Messer Family Babies are entered in the Cool Hat, Baby! Photo Contest at americanbaby.com These beautiful babies are my grandson, Jacob Allen Bell . Jacob's paents are James Allen and Rutha Messer Bell. Ifanyone would like to vote for him, you can find his picture at the following link: http://www.americanbaby.com/photocontest/vote.jhtml?entryId=872300001 His picture ID is # 872300001 The second Messer Family Baby is Wallace Franklin {Wally} Sevier, II, the grandson of Sharon Upton, who is a third great-granddaughter of John and Rebecca Messer. His parents are Matthew James and Melane Upton Sevier. You can vote for him at the following link" You have to register to vote and you can vote to five votes each day. I usually do all my voting at one time insteead of going in several times each day. The Messer Family Reunion will be on October 1 [first Saturday in October] at The Panther Creek Baptist Church in Haywood County. The fellowship hall has been finished and it has been confirmed by the pastor that the facility has been reserved for our Family gathering. I will get the Messerville Gazette updated with new obituaries and births sometime in the next week to ten days. The following link will take you to the Messerville Mayor page. http://www.cccdesigns.biz/mm.htm Be sure to check out all of the links. Remember, if you would like to be removed from the Messerville Gazette list or my email contacts, please send me an email and specify which to remove you from. Please send any new family information, such as birth announcements, funeral notices, wedding announcements or reunion iinformation to be posted. I look forward to hearing from each of you whenever you decide to contat me and will make an effort to reply promptly. Regards Brenda Messer geneslady@compascable.net 828-433-7003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XeB.2ACE/200.483.2 Message Board Post: I have ancesters who lived in Hardin and McNairy County, Tennessee. I can across a file with a Eliza A. Case Preston. It was about Guardianship of a minor. I don't know if has anything to do with your Eliza but I will e-mail it to you. It is two pages. It was contributed by Joanne Baucum to roots web...Becky beckyandalvin@cox.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/1056.1265.2.2 Message Board Post: I will post the information on the family of James and Ruth Collins later this week. My information isn't readily available due to a computer problem last year but I still have it and will gladly share. RR

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: David Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XeB.2ACE/594.583.589.2.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I agree--you have to be very careful about self published or even formally published books on Tennessee genealogy. My observation is that the best of them is usually only 90% or so accurate. That is not a criticism of any particular book, but only to say that there is a lot of inference and speculation in genealogy. Sometime we are right and sometimes we are wrong.