Definitely got the picture. Thanks for the citations. donkelly of the Hawkins County Wilson and Rutledge bunches in early 1800's and same goes for the Owen family of Smith County.....Tennesseeans all. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Bralley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves > Hi everybody: > > Native American ancestry can be a touchy subject because academic > genealogy > relies on information from genuine source records, such as parish records, > muster lists, minister's returns, etc. for the "scientific" part. Oral > tradition and family stories supply the "traditional" part - the my > grandfather told me, hand-me-down story component. When both are > combined, > a rich, evocative family history becomes a treasured account of the > origins > of our ancestors. The further back in time we try to go, the harder it > gets, because frontier records become more and more scarce. Almost all of > us have traditional stories about some parts of our ancestry, particularly > regarding the period during the Colonial frontier days. If you rely > solely > on the scientific sources, you will have an academic family history with > gratifying citations. If you rely solely on the traditional sources, you > will have a colorful, personal family history with scant proof. As > genealogists, we have to admit that both are beautiful and hopefully > everyone will have gratification combining both. Sometimes the facts are > actually wrong, even in the source records, and future generations will > correct some things as new data becomes more and more available. Some > things will simply never be proven, but must be retained for the romance > and > coloring they bring to the history. How an individual looks to you in a > photograph is subjective - like looking at an ink blot and seeing a camel, > but one thing is for sure, all Colonial marriages had to be performed by a > licensed magistrate or minister of the gospel to be valid. Otherwise, > residents of Kentucky, Virginia and old North Carolina would be fined and > jailed. Now I know a lot of quirky things happened on the frontier, so it > is > probable that there were unions between Native Americans and the settlers. > What is lost if we don't budge on what is rational and provable? What is > gained if we do? I suggest we just let individuals bring all the > richness, > pageantry, mystery and humor to their own family histories and those of us > that like footnotes, citations or references, type away. I love both. > But > in my history, if I have a family tale, I call it that and if I have a > fact, > I cite it in a footnote. In the end, everybody wins. In my own family > (Bralley), my great-grandfather always said we were from County Cork, > Ireland. We always believed that and wore green on St. Patrick's Day and > dreamed of the old country. When I went there to do research, I was > astonished to discover that the Bralley's were actually from Somerset, > England, but had moved to Cork during Elizabeth I's reign (1588) and were > part of the Plantation of Munster scheme to take land AWAY from the native > Irish and give it to loyal, Protestant English. They lived there until > they > came to Wythe County, VA in 1769. They were indeed FROM Cork, but NOT > Irish. Get the picture? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.17/1103 - Release Date: > 11/1/2007 6:01 AM > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3181.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: 2 Lawsons of Lee Co., VA ended up in Taney Co. 1860 John Lawson b: ca 1815 abt. (Buchanan Twp) and 1880 Ira Lawson b: 1831 abt. (Beaver Twp) (Ira in Linden Twp, Christian Co., MO in 1870) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GregBoyd50 Surnames: Murrell Frazier Stapleton Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3181.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey Sam, Is this Eliza Frazier that married William Lawson the same "Elizabeth" who was in Waitman Frazier's household in 1850 at age 12? Either way, is she the same Elizabeth that married Larkin Stapleton on March 10, 1854 in Hawkins County, Tennessee? (and keeping in mind that in the 1860 Census, Larkin Stapleton is married to Sarah E (who is only 18, making it a little unlikely that Sarah E. = Elizabeth, since she would have had to have married him at age 12). Many thanks, Greg Boyd Norman, OK Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Murrell, Cobb, Frazier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3181.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is all that I have. In the traditional genealogy, Mary Murrell was the daughter of William Murrell and Vina Cobb. Traditional genealogy is sometime wrong. In this genealogy, William Murrell left (some say abandoned) his four children when Vina died and he married her sister and moved to Taney/Wright County, Missouri where he died. Descendants of Waitman Frazier 1 [1] Waitman Frazier 1810 - 1870 . Mary Ann Manis 1813 - 1845 ...... 2 Ann Frazier 1831 - ...... 2 Savila Frazier 1833 - ...... 2 Nancy Frazier 1836 - ...... 2 Elizabeth Frazier 1838 - ...... 2 Orville Frazier 1840 - ...... 2 Isaac Frazier 1842 - *2nd Wife of [1] Waitman Frazier: . Mary Murrell 1824 - ...... 2 Catherine Frazier 1847 - ...... 2 Susannah "Sarah" Frazier 1849 - ...... 2 Luverna Frazier 1851 - ...... 2 Jesse Frazier 1853 - ...... 2 Lucinda Frazier 1861 - Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SamDL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3181.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, My name is Sam D. Lawson. Waitman FRAZIER'S daughter, Eliza, married to William LAWSON. He and Eliza raised my Great-Grandfather, Rufus. Rufus was born 29 November, 1865, at Eidson, Hawkins Co., Tenn., the "natural child" of Sarah (MANIS) LAWSON and Iredell Campbell WILLIS. Sarah was the widow at the time of Palestine LAWSON. Palestine was "bushwhacked" near Rogersville, Hawkins Co., Tenn. while away (without permission from the Union Army, 8th Tennessee Regiment. He died in September, 1865. Rufus was raised as a son of William and Eliza (FRAZIER) LAWSON, with my Rufus taking the LAWSON surname as his own. Would you share with me what you have on Waitman FRAZIER'S family please? Thank you Sam D. Lawson Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Glenda_Osterhout Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3181.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Waitman was my gggrandfather what other information do you have on him. How many times was he married and to whom? any info on his parents? It has been hard to come up with his line. Thanks alot! Glenda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Don: Exactly! The overland trails generally followed old wagon train trails so these seed could have been planted. Then some went by steamship up the TN river to the Oh river then down the MS river to the AR river and went up it as far as they could and then went cross land to OK. Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. -----Original Message----- From: Donal O'Kelly Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity Thank you Bob. Another bit-o-history: The trail of tears was not so named because deported Indians were crying. The trail of tears was so named after a very small rose bush with tiny petals that grew naturally along the trail (actually more than one trail) which the people called tears. source: Grandma Kelly donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > Don: > Excellent. You are correct. In lots of cases the Cherokees were more > educated than the whites. > Sure there were a few Drgging Canoe's but for most part the Cherokes were > encouraged by the British and supplied weapson to fight us. > Bob > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donal O'Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:15 AM > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > Perhaps lesser known facts include that they had the first written native > language and started the first newspaper for Indians. Georgia I believe. > > donkelly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:09 PM > Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > >> The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee >> heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in >> the Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga >> Chapter in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend >> from >> one of Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General >> Martin recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their >> non-support at King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won >> the Amer. Rev. War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that >> helped us. >> Best wishes, >> Bob Hughes, Past Pres. >> TNSSAR >> >> >> "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a >> trail"---Emerson >> Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those >> who dare to attack. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: >> 10/29/2007 9:28 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.15/1101 - Release Date: > 10/31/2007 10:06 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, James. I'll check it out. Eddie Quoting JKC837 <[email protected]>: > TRY THE VARIOUS CENSUS ROLLS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL, OF BOTH THE > EASTERN AND WESTERN BANDS OF THE CHEROKEE NATION. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT > DID SEVERAL ROLLS AT VARIOUS TIMES. A GOOD WEBSITE IS > www.nc-cherokee.com<http://www.nc-cherokee.com/> THIS IS THE OFFICIAL > WEBSITE OF THE EASTERN BAND OF THE CHEROKEE NATION. > > IT TAKES TIME TO LOOK THRU ALL OF THE LISTS. WE FOUND ANN > STUBBLEFIELD SCRUGGS HEUSTED HOLEMAN PARKER, WHO WAS BORN IN HAWKINS > COUNTY IN 1812, ON THE WESTERN BAND DAWES COMMISSION INDEX. SHE WAS > THE DAUGHTER OF WYATT STUBBLEFIELD OF GRAINGER AND HAWKINS COUNTIES. > > JAMES > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eddie Goins<mailto:[email protected]et> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > > Bob, > > Where is a good place to begin looking to see if your ancestors were > Cherokee? I have been told my g-grandmother was part Cherokee. > > Eddie Goins > > -----Original Message----- > From: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:10 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee > heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in the > Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga Chapter > in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend from one of > Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General Martin > recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their non-support at > King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won the Amer. Rev. > War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that helped us. > Best wishes, > Bob Hughes, Past Pres. > TNSSAR > > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who > dare to attack. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Bob, I would appreciate that. Eddie Quoting Bob Betty Hughes <[email protected]>: > Eddie: > That is a tough question. It depends on where your Cheropkees were > or in some cases ended up. I'm not Cherokee but my wife is and hers > escaped from the Trail of Tears and almost disappeard. I have some > kin in the General Martin Chapter that are part Cherokee and are very > knowledgeable of tracing Cherokee kin. I can put you in touch with > them if you like. > Bob > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and > leave a trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by > those who dare to attack. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eddie Goins > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > Bob, > > Where is a good place to begin looking to see if your ancestors were > Cherokee? I have been told my g-grandmother was part Cherokee. > > Eddie Goins > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:10 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee > heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in the > Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga Chapter > in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend from one of > Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General Martin > recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their non-support at > King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won the Amer. Rev. > War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that helped us. > Best wishes, > Bob Hughes, Past Pres. > TNSSAR > > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who > dare to attack. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you Bob. Another bit-o-history: The trail of tears was not so named because deported Indians were crying. The trail of tears was so named after a very small rose bush with tiny petals that grew naturally along the trail (actually more than one trail) which the people called tears. source: Grandma Kelly donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:09 AM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > Don: > Excellent. You are correct. In lots of cases the Cherokees were more > educated than the whites. > Sure there were a few Drgging Canoe's but for most part the Cherokes were > encouraged by the British and supplied weapson to fight us. > Bob > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donal O'Kelly > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:15 AM > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > Perhaps lesser known facts include that they had the first written native > language and started the first newspaper for Indians. Georgia I believe. > > donkelly > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:09 PM > Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > > >> The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee >> heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in >> the Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga >> Chapter in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend >> from >> one of Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General >> Martin recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their >> non-support at King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won >> the Amer. Rev. War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that >> helped us. >> Best wishes, >> Bob Hughes, Past Pres. >> TNSSAR >> >> >> "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a >> trail"---Emerson >> Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those >> who dare to attack. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: >> 10/29/2007 9:28 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.15/1101 - Release Date: > 10/31/2007 10:06 AM > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: fraflet Surnames: boyd, brisentine Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3241.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Reuben's parents were William Boyd 1786-1855 and Elizabeth Brisentine (1st wife) born abt 1790 in Va. Additional children were borne by 2nd wife Mary Boyd born abt 1810. One of Joseph's sons, Alfred, was my grandfather on my mother's side. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crh1941 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2726.1.1.1.1.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on THOMAS HAYNES, born 1802 in Hawkins County. I think his parents might have been Thomas, son of Christopher and Nancy Alsobrook, and Anna Lawson. As far as I can tell, Christopher's son Thomas was born about 1782. He died before 1830, leaving several children - one of whom may be our Thomas. Do you have anything to share on either THOMAS HAYNES? Thanks. CRH Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: crh1941 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3174.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have info on your A.H. HAYNES, but wonder if you have any info on a son born to THOMAS HAYNES and ANNA LAWSON, born in 1802 in Hawkins County, also named THOMAS HAYNES. Is A. for Arthur? Our Thomas named one son Arthur and one Christopher. (I see in your posting that you have the names of Anna's and Thomas's children.) He is our brick wall. Thanks. CRH Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you, Carol

Nancy and William are listed in "Hawkins County Tennessee Cemeteries Volume 3" on page 129. It says they are buried in unmarked graves in the Simmons Cemetery on Stanley Valley Road and there are no dates listed. I checked usual sources for dates but did not find them listed in any of them. The book also says that the info for the unmarked graves was given by Mrs. Elsie Horne Fields. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of cpruett Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TNHAWKIN] mcpeek I am trying to find the location for the graves of William McPeek died 1905 his wife Nancy Carpenter Mcpeek died 1913 -1916 Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to find the location for the graves of William McPeek died 1905 his wife Nancy Carpenter Mcpeek died 1913 -1916 Thanks

Don: Excellent. You are correct. In lots of cases the Cherokees were more educated than the whites. Sure there were a few Drgging Canoe's but for most part the Cherokes were encouraged by the British and supplied weapson to fight us. Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. -----Original Message----- From: Donal O'Kelly Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:15 AM To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity Perhaps lesser known facts include that they had the first written native language and started the first newspaper for Indians. Georgia I believe. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity > The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee > heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in > the Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga > Chapter in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend from > one of Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General > Martin recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their > non-support at King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won > the Amer. Rev. War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that > helped us. > Best wishes, > Bob Hughes, Past Pres. > TNSSAR > > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: > 10/29/2007 9:28 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eddie: That is a tough question. It depends on where your Cheropkees were or in some cases ended up. I'm not Cherokee but my wife is and hers escaped from the Trail of Tears and almost disappeard. I have some kin in the General Martin Chapter that are part Cherokee and are very knowledgeable of tracing Cherokee kin. I can put you in touch with them if you like. Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Goins Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity Bob, Where is a good place to begin looking to see if your ancestors were Cherokee? I have been told my g-grandmother was part Cherokee. Eddie Goins -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:10 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in the Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga Chapter in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend from one of Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General Martin recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their non-support at King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won the Amer. Rev. War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that helped us. Best wishes, Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TRY THE VARIOUS CENSUS ROLLS, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL, OF BOTH THE EASTERN AND WESTERN BANDS OF THE CHEROKEE NATION. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT DID SEVERAL ROLLS AT VARIOUS TIMES. A GOOD WEBSITE IS www.nc-cherokee.com<http://www.nc-cherokee.com/> THIS IS THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF THE EASTERN BAND OF THE CHEROKEE NATION. IT TAKES TIME TO LOOK THRU ALL OF THE LISTS. WE FOUND ANN STUBBLEFIELD SCRUGGS HEUSTED HOLEMAN PARKER, WHO WAS BORN IN HAWKINS COUNTY IN 1812, ON THE WESTERN BAND DAWES COMMISSION INDEX. SHE WAS THE DAUGHTER OF WYATT STUBBLEFIELD OF GRAINGER AND HAWKINS COUNTIES. JAMES ----- Original Message ----- From: Eddie Goins<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity Bob, Where is a good place to begin looking to see if your ancestors were Cherokee? I have been told my g-grandmother was part Cherokee. Eddie Goins -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bob Betty Hughes Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Cherokee Heredity The State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter welcomes any member with Cherokee heredity to join our Chapter. I have led the chartering of Chapters in the Cumberland Gap, the, General Joseph Martin Chapter and the Watauga Chapter in Carter County, TN. Many of the GM Chapter members descend from one of Joseph's Cherokee wives. We welcome your membership. General Martin recognized te friendship of the Cherokees and without their non-support at King's Mountain, we might not have turned the tide and won the Amer. Rev. War. We seek the support of the Cherokee descendants that helped us. Best wishes, Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

DAVID - YOUR THEORY NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. JAMES ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Jacob Lawson This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2784.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2784.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: This is my own belief after reading the historical evidence. The Indian maiden stories were mostly untrue--a romantic fantasy--with occasional exceptions like the Sizemores. The DNA data suggests that there are very few Indian descendents among white settlers of the tri-state area. Most of the Indian maiden stories originated during the very late 1800s and early 1900s when the Guion-Miller Roll was being assembled. Our ancestors saw $$ signs. During the life of Jacob Lawson the Indians in Tennessee were very unfriendly to white settlers. They killed them when they could and vice versa. You only have to look at the newspapers of the time to come to that conclusion. Remember that Davey Crockett's grandfather was killed by the Cherokee/Creek Indians near Rogersville in Hawkins County, Tennessee in 1777. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnnews/index.html<http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnnews/index.html> Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message