This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In looking at this again, it is curious that in 1850 Hawkins County, Jonas Lawson married to Sally was living in District 10, and in 1860 Pulaski County, KY, Burrell Lawson was living near an elderly Jonas Lawson from NC, who may be the Jonas Lawson formerly living in Stokes County, NC, and mentioned in a Revolutionaly War pension file, as well as Mormon and Rachael Lawson formerly of 1850 Hawkins County District 11, and in 1870 Burrell Lawson was living in Hawkins County District 10 near Joseph Lawson, son of the younger 1850 District 10 Jonas Lawson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

To Bob Hughes: My husband's (James Dooley) 4th great-grandfather, Daniel Flora (Sr.) served in the Revolutionary War and is buried in the Flora Cemetery on Flora Ferry Rd. in Hawkins Co. His marker is as follows: DANIEL FLORA 3 Batt York County Militia Revolutionary War Penn 1753 1841 Tenn I can scan and email a picture of the marker if you would like to have it. Barbara Dooley Cullowhee, NC At 03:02 AM 11/29/2007, you wrote: >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:50:33 GMT >From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> >Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Rev. War Patriots Buried Hawkins Co., TN >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Thomas Amis >Ephraim Andrews >Bartlet Belcher >James Bell >Henry Blevins >John Barnard >William Boin >Reuben Boin >William Bond >Littleton Brooks >Reuen Bowen >Henry Buren >Frederick Burkett >Thmas Brooks >William Bussell > >Watch for more Patriots buried in Hawkins County. > >Bob Hughes > >"Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a >trail"---Emerson >Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those >who dare to attack. >

Hello, My 3rd grt grandfather is buried in Hawkins Co., TN He was in the American Revolution. Being female I can not join the SAR. I am in the DAR in NC. I think it is a good thing you are trying to do and wish you good luck in your endevors. Times are tough on many these days. Helen B. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:55 PM Subject: [TNHAWKIN] State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter >I need some imput from Hawkins and Hancock list members. Most of you are >aware of my efforts to form a Sons of the American Revolution Chapter in >this area. > I live 800 miles round trip away and can not be where I need to be daily > to achieve this goal. I am getting NO cooperation from the media and have > even offered to pay for space with no reply. > I have chartered 5 SAR Chapters and personally sponsored 115 members into > SAR, so I trust you understand that I know what my mission is. However, I > seem to be getting no place here. I may be some place that I am not > wanted, trying to do something that is not wanted. Please, if this is > true, tell me, and I will leave. I welcome your comments pro or con. > Best wishes, > Bob Hughes > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please pardon me for butting in a little bit - just a technical pointer here with the mailing list and the message boards. People that post on the message boards may not be subscribed to the e-mail list, therefore they will not ever see the replies on the list. If you want a message board posting person to see your reply, you have to click on the link in the e-mail and reply on that website (the message board). The links to click on always start out http://boards.rootsweb.com/..... (see the full link - below) Hope that helps, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Betty Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) >I guess that I don't understand what is curious about this. > Bob Hughes > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a > trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those > who dare to attack. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS > FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: drdjones > Surnames: Lawson > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > In looking at this again, it is curious that in 1850 Hawkins County, Jonas > Lawson married to Sally was living in District 10, and in 1860 Pulaski > County, KY, Burrell Lawson was living near an elderly Jonas Lawson from > NC, who may be the Jonas Lawson formerly living in Stokes County, NC, and > mentioned in a Revolutionaly War pension file, as well as Mormon and > Rachael Lawson formerly of 1850 Hawkins County District 11, and in 1870 > Burrell Lawson was living in Hawkins County District 10 near Joseph > Lawson, son of the younger 1850 District 10 Jonas Lawson. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: During the civil war, Morgan's Raiders came up to Pike Co, OH where our Lawsons were (about 20 years after leaving Hawkins Co., TN) and terrorized the area. At the same time Clem (b. 1817-21) and Paschal's sons John and Mahlon went to Chatanooga, TN, Alabama etc. I can understand wanting to be somewhat anonymous and keeping any familial ties discreet. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: French, too! I went to school with a Beauchamp who was oh, so French! She pronounced it as a "nasal" Bow-show. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is fascinating. I have started printing things out so I can read, organize, and re-read. I haven't had this much fun in years! I've read, but still haven't absorbed, the emails you sent. Lots of food for thought. Counterfeiting, eh? I spent my career in the printing/ advertising/typesetting industry, maybe I had a natural proclivity! At this point in life I think counterfeiting is probably a more honorable field than advertising. I can't afford the software or associations for in-depth research either. Two of the Lawsons, two of the Gilberts, Two of the Murrells, a Brown and a Cobb were in the CSA infantry first and the USA calvary later...one may have been in the USA infantry. They were related by blood, marriage or friendship. I wonder if they were pressed into service by the Confederacy? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: old Clem Lawson b: ca. 1772 had a son Curtis b: ca. 1825 who had a son named Henry Lawson b: ca. 1853 of Stoney Creek, Madison Co., IN. Henry married a Mary Bushong. I seem to recall that Bushong was a corruption of Beauchamp. This name is also found in ENG as Beecham / Beacham. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have also seen Amyx as Amacks and Amis. It is a strange name. I have a friend whose family came to the U.S. in the late 1930s. They were Jewish and trying to get out of Europe. They had been living in France for a number of years. When they went through U.S. immigration the guy couldn't spell their name, and they lived in Coer d'laine (excuse my spelling), France, so the immigration officer called them Curlang and that became their name in America! Now that I think about it, there's a Germantown, MD, also. I noticed the Klepper name! Also Wax (Wachs or Vaus). My sister married a guy from Germany named Voss. I guess I have just been stuck in an "UK" rut for so long I am having a hard time getting out. I remember my cousins asking if we went to school with Indians in New Mexico. They thought they still rode horses and carried tomohawks. Years later we found half our family married Indians and the other half fought them. So you never know where those names came from or where they went! Vikings! That's a good background even it if was a surprise! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thomas Amis Ephraim Andrews Bartlet Belcher James Bell Henry Blevins John Barnard William Boin Reuben Boin William Bond Littleton Brooks Reuen Bowen Henry Buren Frederick Burkett Thmas Brooks William Bussell Watch for more Patriots buried in Hawkins County. Bob Hughes "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I seem to recall reading that the Amyx name was originally something like McAmis or something like that. I have also known/seen a name Aumick / Amick. There are a lot of names that are german in early NC. Remember Germantown area. Rowan Co., NC had Swiss and Germans early on. Our "March" family from Rowan Co., NC in the early/mid 1700s was really März/M(a)ertz. Hawkins Co., TN and Russell/Lee Co., VA had a lot of germanic surnames with all sorts of corrupted spellings. Of course, the stated german could have come from the mother's side. The Hatfield, Monk, Miser, Howe familes were germans (maybe Argenbright, Klepper/Klepfer, Baughman, lots of others). I don't think Lawson being Scandanavian/North European Losson or even French/Spanish Lauzon is out of the question. Clement (Clemenz)/Clemmons, Patmon, Emanuel, Edmund, Lazarus ... A clue, there is no german name James - but it is Jacob (Jacob Lawson). I really don't know, and don't have an opinion as yet - just want to explore all areas of origin as the obvious has not brought answers as yet... My very english Hungate family turned out to be Danes (vikings). They and we, for the most part came from somewhere else ;^) ha ha... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Paxton connection: There were Paxon families near the Lawsons in IN ca. 1850. Wether or not there was a connection needs to be explored. Why did this transaction take place - family, friends, war vets, land speculation only ? Rush County, IN: "Was the Clement who bought land in IN in 1836 Old Clem or one of the younger Clems or a different Clem?" Since the land was in Rush Co. near Henry and Madison Co.s, it may be old Clem. I don't have a copy of the original record (which could contain more details - wife names or other details) only the abstract I provided from a Richard Lawson (no known relationship) researcher. Rush Co. is of some, but limited, interest. Dalzel and Marena (Lawson) Manis were living there in the 1850 census and James, Orville and Wm. H. Reason lived ther in 1860 where there was a Nelson Stapleton. The Reason/Reisen, Bloomer, Manis, Lawson, Robinson etc. were all intertwined / kin. Remember Andrew and Nancy Stapleton connection to Banks Lawson & the others in Hawkins Co., court record. 1850 IN Rush Co, Centre Twp, Ogden PO pg. 492 Dwel 92 / Fam 94 Manes Dalsel 38 TN (where did the name come from - Francis or Henry Dalzel / Dalzell. Francis was a postmaster in Rogersville, Hawkins Co., TN in 1816 and was born in IRE.) Manes Marena 40 TN (Clem Lawson's daughter) Pleasant Bloomer 19 TN (married Emaline Reason - some Bloomers went to OH near our Lawsons, Roberts, Howes and Monks of Hawkins Co., TN area) Manes George 16 IN Manes Lydia A 14 IN (Dalzel's mother's name Lydia Lawson) Manes Mariah 12 IN "Was the Hennis with Banks in 1830 Indiana the same Hennis that was in court with Burrell in 1828?" Unknown - need to follow the trails of who was where, when and why. "What state was this Garrison case in? If it was in Indiana, is this one of the NC Garrisons you mentioned? Sorry it was Hawkins Co., TN. Allegedly Ezekiel Sullivan went from Hawkins Co., TN to IN and a Joseph and Jacob Garrison Sr. are found by Hennis and Banks in 1830 IN, New Albany. A Joseph Garrison lived between Edmund Lawson and William and Lydia (Lawson) Manis in 1830 Hawkins Co., TN. Garrison, Joseph Garrison, Jacob Sr. Martin, Joshua Arkenbright, John (see Argenbright etc. Hawkins Co. area) Clepper, George (see Klepper Hawkins Co. area) Martin, Thomas Ingram, Andrew (a name that pops up in relationship to these folks including a John Roberts - counterfeiting... Hawkins Co. 1791 and Pulaski Co., KY area). Lawson, Hennis Lawson, Banks JOSEPH ROBERTS: Wills witnessed by Joseph Roberts include: Edmund Lawson (see above) and William Roberts whose will in Hawkins Co. (undated) lists wife Jane, son Claiborn (Andrew Roberts named a son Claiborn), daughters Susannah & Elizabeth. This will is witnessed by Joseph Roberts. Joseph Roberts - 1840 . Hawkins Co. Deed book 17 page 50 mentions Joseph Roberts (Dec'd) and lists his heirs as Milly Reasons (Roberts), Susan Walling (Roberts), Jane Sizemore (Roberts), Walling Roberts, and William Roberts. I think our Andrew Roberts (Paschal Lawson's brother-in-law) was a son of John Roberts - guessing only... "Was the James Willis in the court action married to Malvina Lawson?" I don't know which James Willis - maybe David can help out here ? Edmund Lawson "Was brandy Burrell the only Burrell in the family?" Unknown territory - again need to follow the paths to verify. I tend to think that Burrell may have been Lewis Burrell but conjecture based on why he would have that name. "I have only one Hennis and one Burrell but I have read there were more Hennis names." There were at least two Hennis Banks or more... The likely two Hennis names in Stokes Co., NC were Samuel and Benjamin so I'd look for folks in this family where Samuel or Benjamin could also be a Hennis - was Hennis Lawson's full name Samuel Hennis Lawson or Benjamin Hennis Lawson ? Was Banks Lawson's name John Banks Lawson (Elender's father said to be John Banks) or David Banks Lawson a brother of Elender ? "There is no doubt these were enterprising folks. Under the radar, off the grid, leaving small footprints...survivors!" See John Roberts and Andrew Ingram. Where there's smoke ... Our Lawsons had a number of and were associated with Civil War vets - all union which may have caused them to lay low. Our Clem b: 1817-1821 (a civil war vet) is missing from the 1860 census. I have two cases in another couple families (in-laws) of mine where the same is true - wierd. "I appreciate your help and apologize for my many questions which must seem ridiculous." Keep it up. Challenge what we all think we know and offer up any fresh observations. I do not have access to and can not afford to obtain all the possible records but have lots of enthusiasm. Dr. David Jones is a wonderful man and has found and challenged many things which has helped so much in all of this. Many thanks to all the others who have contributed also ... May we continue to collaborate, research and get to the bottom of all this soon ;^) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the Clems! I got trapped in the McClellan, Clel, Clen, Clem, Clint conundrum and it took me a while to figure it out...I hope I figured it out. This whole German connection is BIG TIME NEWS to me and I don't really subscribe to it! In all the work my mother did she never found a hint of Germany except in the Amyx name on my father's mother's side (she was a Williams and had a Mary Francis Amyx [German name] married to a William Lawrence [Irish immigrant]). Apparently this Mary Francis was not the one related to Isaac Amyx. My father and his father said his family was Scots-Irish. The British Isles are full of Lawsons and I tend to believe it was the census taker who (if they couldn't read or write)used a phoenitic spelling. The fact that someone (you?) found the name spelled Lawson and Losson in the same vicinity (census record?) tells me there may have been Germans and Englishmen in the area. I admit I have been surprised how early people came here from Germany, France and, now, Sweden. I thought this was pretty much an English/Irish/Scottish country until the very late 1700s and early 1800s. I know nothing of "naming traditions" so I can't even make an intelligent deduction on that. I read that a similar naming pattern (father's first name) was used by the Melungians. I do know that many native Americans were organized matrilineally and I think that's a good idea! I have wondered if the reason nobody has come up with the old Lawson Family Bible(s), is because there aren't any. If they couldn't read or write, it seems a Bible would have been a luxury in a hard-scrabble world. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are about a million years ahead of me on the research. I am new at this and do not know how to get land records or census records showing neighbors. I'm not sure I get the Paxton connection--Paxtons in NC near Clem, then Clem bought land from a Paxton in IN? Was the Clement who bought land in IN in 1836 Old Clem or one of the younger Clems or a different Clem? Was the Hennis with Banks in 1830 Indiana the same Hennis that was in court with Burrell in 1828? What state was this Garrison case in? If it was in Indiana, is this one of the NC Garrisons you mentioned? Was the James Willis in the court action married to Malvina Lawson? Was brandy Burrell the only Burrell in the family? I have only one Hennis and one Burrell but I have read there were more Hennis names. There is no doubt these were enterprising folks. Under the radar, off the grid, leaving small footprints...survivors! I appreciate your help and apologize for my many questions which must seem ridiculous. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There was a Clem LAWSON in Miller County, MO from an early day, likely ca 1840. As far as I know no one has placed this Clem. The source is Miller County Families and gathered from census data. http://www.stormloader.com/kvernon/fam/lawson.htm >>Clem Lawson who also is believed to be related to the other lines. He could be the first Lawson to come to this area. His wife is not known. His children are: 1. Alex Lawson was born Aug. 5, 1842 and died Nov. 28, 1920. His wife was Ellen Duncan. They had 9 children: John C., William F., Linsay M., Roy H., Mrs. C. E. Shepherd, George W., Mrs. Nathan Lawson, Edward A. and Sarah. In 1880 census of Miller Co., they were: Alexander age 38, Ellen age 24, John age 13, William age 11, Lindsey age 10, Martha age 9, Mary A. age 8, Caroline age 7, Angeline age 5, and Annetta age 3. 2. Lindsay Lawson by his first marriage had a girl named Ellen who married Laughlin Sherrill. Lindsay married a second time and had a son named George Calvin Lawson. 3. Calvin Lawson was married to a woman named Evelyn. They had 3 children: William, Etta, and Mary Ellen. In 1880 Maries Co. census: Calvin age 38, Julia E. age 25, William L. age 5, Mary E. age 2. 4. Nancy Lawson married Elisha Lee. They had 4 children: Marion, Louis, Isaac, and Alice. Most of these older Lawsons are buried in the Jim Matt Lawson and the Dick Lawson cemeteries. === -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 338 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew ([email protected]) 2. Re: Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) ([email protected]) 3. different Clems and New Sweden was (Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew) ([email protected]) 4. Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) ([email protected]) 5. Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) ([email protected]) 6. Re: Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:04:34 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ambrose was in the Coomer, Collins and many other family lines. Ambrose Powell was an early explorer in TN in that area. There was someone kin named Thomas Ambrose (surname forgotten at the moment) so Ambrose could be a middle name.... The only other Ambrose of that generation I know about is likely connected: Lawson, Ambrose _ father: Lawson, Elisha (see David) _ mother: unknown, Mary _ born: 1799-1802 @ NC _ died: _ married 01: _ spouse 01: Sisk, Mary Ann "Polly" (b: 1809 @ NC) _ children total: _ child 01: Lawson Mary A b: 1830 @ NC _ child 02: Lawson Woody b: 1833 @ NC m: Lawson, Mary @ NC, Surry Co. _ child 03: Lawson Elisha (named after father ?) b: 1834 @ NC _ child 04: Lawson Richard b: 1836/1837 @ TN - sons John and Richard moved to Carroll Co Va. between 1850-1860. d: 1912 @ VA, Carroll Co. m01: Freeman, Nancy m02: Aker, Frances @ VA, Wythe Co. _ child 05: Lawson John b: 1839 @ NC - sons John and Richard moved to Carroll Co Va. between 1850-1860. d 1912 @ VA, Carroll Co. m01: Taylor, Elzina m02: Shepherd, Sarah from NC, Ashe Co. _ child 06: Lawson Thomas b: 1843 @ NC _ Tax List: not sure about this but possibly same as in 1836 Hawkins Co. tax list Civil District 4 with David Lawson - near John Monk etc. - also based on children's births he was in TN 1836/1837 period for son Richard's birth then back to NC by 1839. _ Note: If Ambrose of Stokes Co. b: 1799 his son Richard was born 1836/1837 in TN all other children before and after in NC - associated with David. An older Ambrose b: 1780 abt. appears in Hawkins Co. in 1860 and Banks named a son Ambrose _ census: 1850 NC, Stokes Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:13:21 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow! That would explain the three Clems and Banks. I never considered that! Seems like somewhere...in military records...somebody would have named their father. But I guess we were on a war break then...nothing REALLY big between 1776 and 1861. So many coincidences to be a coincidence! How's that for deep thought! Clement Burrell...! The NC info is remarkable! I think we are into the axle grease and out of the pudding! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:35:47 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] different Clems and New Sweden was (Re: Hennis, Banks, Thomas, Ambrose, Clement, Edmund, Andrew) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:38:53 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:40:02 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHAWKIN] Different Clems and New Sweden (was Re: Hennis, Banks ...) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/2264.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... One must also consider that they could have taken their names from the old settlers. Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:54:52 -0000 From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Burrell and Clem Lawson (was Re: LOOSE RECORDS FROM HAWKINS CO. COURTHOUSE - JOHNSON, LAWSON) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.count ies.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Deed index (grantor) 1630186 (Rush Co IN) To - from - kind of deed, consideration, date of deed, (description) (name of town) land Sec Twn Rng (acres), recorded, bk pg Clemment Lawson - James Paxton War $75 24 Dec 1836 Und 1/2 WNE 4-15-10 5 Apr 1838 I-55 Need to review Paxon/Paxton (consider Parton/Partin etc. spellings) in areas around old Clem (NC / Hawkins Co., TN / Rush/Henry/Madison co. IN for connections). Also possible William & Joseph Garrison / Garretson / Garretsen and Ezekiel Sullivan connections beside the known Banks family connection. Remember also Hennis and Banks were just outside of Louisville Ky in 1830 - on the Indiana side. Look for signs of or reasons for Burrell and Clement to be there. 1828 Garrison, William vs Lawson, Hennis & Burrel; Willis, Larkin & James for Debt 1833 Burrell Lawson Hawkins County - selling brandy without a license Were any of these folks enterprising provisioners who stayed under the radar so to speak ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Deed index (grantor) 1630186 (Rush Co IN) To - from - kind of deed, consideration, date of deed, (description) (name of town) land Sec Twn Rng (acres), recorded, bk pg Clemment Lawson - James Paxton War $75 24 Dec 1836 Und 1/2 WNE 4-15-10 5 Apr 1838 I-55 Need to review Paxon/Paxton (consider Parton/Partin etc. spellings) in areas around old Clem (NC / Hawkins Co., TN / Rush/Henry/Madison co. IN for connections). Also possible William & Joseph Garrison / Garretson / Garretsen and Ezekiel Sullivan connections beside the known Banks family connection. Remember also Hennis and Banks were just outside of Louisville Ky in 1830 - on the Indiana side. Look for signs of or reasons for Burrell and Clement to be there. 1828 Garrison, William vs Lawson, Hennis & Burrel; Willis, Larkin & James for Debt 1833 Burrell Lawson Hawkins County - selling brandy without a license Were any of these folks enterprising provisioners who stayed under the radar so to speak ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... One must also consider that they could have taken their names from the old settlers. Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2264.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: someone was asking about New Sweden http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Sweden there are other sources - just search the internet for those... Regarding the Clems Clement b: ca. 1772 NC Clem Jr. only son of Edmund & Patsy (likely Martha) per 1832 will (if our Clem b: 1817 - 1821) Clement / Clemuel b: 1817 - 1821 next to Paschal in OH may be Edmund's only son but not proven Clemen b: ca. 1822 next to Banks in 1850 (maybe Hennis' son) Clem b: ca. 1829 Banks' son in 1850 census Clement b: ca. 1843 son of Paschal William Clemmons b: ca. 1865 s/o William "Russell" Lawson watch transcriptions etc. as there may be some confusion around the names McClellan / McClennan / McClendon / Clint / Clinton / Clendon / Clen / Glen Clem Lawson was considered of German (maybe why the name was spelled Losson) by Manis descendants in Dalzel Manis' bio. The strange naming patterns in these folks may lend to their background - consider maybe they were germanic / dutch / scandinavian where each generation had a different surname based on the father's first name and as they adapted to the English / American traditions, there was a period of unusual names and confusion... Does anyone find it odd that so many were illiterate through a couple generations or was that the norm ? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3339.1.1.1.3.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow! That would explain the three Clems and Banks. I never considered that! Seems like somewhere...in military records...somebody would have named their father. But I guess we were on a war break then...nothing REALLY big between 1776 and 1861. So many coincidences to be a coincidence! How's that for deep thought! Clement Burrell...! The NC info is remarkable! I think we are into the axle grease and out of the pudding! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.