This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you actually have any documentation that your family was collecting "Indian monies" or is it just a family story? Family stories are interesting, but they are often exaggerated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your family may be one of the few tri-state families who were certified as Indian. The DNA data seems to show that generally only the Sizemore family was Indian from a genetic point of view. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Like I said, Mom never found any evidence of her racial make up OR a conclusive last name. I also think anybody who could have "passed" would have passed...to avoid social ostracism and loss of rights. Nobody wanted to be an Indian until the 60s, now half the earth is Cherokee! HA! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2202.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kittie C. Lawrence married Hugh Williams. One of their daughters, Lillie, went to Kentucky (we think). She may have been going to grandparents???? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2202.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This Cornelius was born between 1813 and 1835. The favorite year seems to be 1828. He married Elizabeth Gillenwater. I found them in Hawkins County, TN on 1 census and never found them again. I found a C.K. Amyx married to Eliza in 1880 and Cornelius alone in 1850 Parents could have been Samuel and Fanny or Isaac and Mary. I really don't know who his parents were. I have run into 3 sets of Isaacs married to Mary. Their oldest child, daughter Frances, married William Lawrence (or Laurence) I found them on one census in Carter County, TN, with daughter Kittie C Lawrence. She is my great-grandmother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LauraMoncrief Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3481.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have spent 35 years researching these Delphs and just published them on Lulu.com. Will be happy to share info. Laura Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: halliepgarner Surnames: Amyx Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2202.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I may have information for you...there was more than one Cornelius Amyx, so I need to know more about the one that you are talking about. Are you talking about the one that went to Monroe Co., KY? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: you may want to check here: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/nativeamerican/ Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JaniceSutherland Surnames: Wilson, King, Britton , Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Britton Wilson was supposedly collecting monies on Indian lands in the early 1900s (Hawkins Co., TN). We also have a 'family history' that there is Indian blood from somewhere. I was told that if money was being collected on Indian lands (held in trust by the US Govt), that person must be listed on the Indian rolls. I have never been able to find any of my relatives on any of the rolls. Britton was in Tx in 1900. Any suggestions on how to find this info. Are there payout records online? http://www.geocities.com/jchandle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1860 census, the enumerators were required to identify all free Indians. No one in Hawkins County was identified as Indian. My own belief from the body of records is that Thursey was not an Indian and was not an FPC. I also cannot find any evidence that she was a Parvin. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No, after 1830 or so, FPCs could vote if they were 5 generations removed from the original Negro ancestor. Indians had no voting rights whatsoever in the United States. They were not citizens. It was better to be an FPC than an Indian until about 1900. In the 1860 census, the enumerators were required to identify all "free" Indians. There were virtually none in the South. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2202.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have any information on Sarah Amyx? I noticed she named a son Cornelius. I am searching for an ancestor named Cornelius Amyx and thought perhaps he was an ancestor of Sarah. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CFisher2139 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2680.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, indeed, this is the family we researched and published a family history about. If you would care to contact me at [email protected] I will be happy to send you further information. Thank you for posting. Clerice Fisher [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well, as I said, Dad had only been told of one person in his Lawson group, that being Thursia. It she was full or half, seems like it would have been (at least) rumored in the community; although I realize at that time this kinship was something that was kept private. Dad's Indian connection seems to be on the Williams side. Mom was surprised when the historian said what he did, and she was never able to verify anything at all. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kalinda09 Surnames: Tunnell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.39.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi. I am Kali. the 17 year old from missouri. I talked to you a few months back about my history. I am sorry that i have lost touch but I have been really busy with school and all. I am very busy during the school year but have lots of time in the summer. so I am sorry for not talking for a while. I am still very interested in history so if you find any information please send it to my grandma. Her email is [email protected] You sent her a message a few days ago so you are still keeping in touch with her. Take care and you are more than welcome to email me also. I like to hear from you. My email is [email protected] I look forward to hearing from you soon. Have a very merry Christmas. Kali Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My own belief is that none of the Hawkins County Lawson had any (significant?) Indian ancestry at all. As far as I can tell, most Lawson Indian stories originated in the 1890s when the Guion-Miller role was being constructed and money was being offered to those whose "lands" were appropriated by Whites. As far as I can tell, the DNA data confirm there was no Indian ancestry. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson, Manis, Fields Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.2.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am going through my Peter Lawson records and will reply to that message soon. But, the Thomas Lawson who married widow 1840 Susan Stevens--apparent widow of Stephen Stevens--appears to be the father of Wallen and Stokely Lawson. He was from 1830 Lee County, and was living next to Wallen and Stokely in 1840 Hawkins County. He was old enough to be their father--or possibly an uncle. I don't know who Thomas' first wife was, but he was married in 1840 to someone else. Some have named his first wife as Nancy Wallen--I don't know if that is true or not. He is often said to be the son of David Lawson of Lee County. Susan Stevens was the mother of Elizabeth Stevens who married Nelson Manis. Nelson's daughter Mary married Curren Lawson by all accounts. Since I am a descendent in the female line, I had my mt-DNA tested and it matches up with a number of ancestors in the tri-state area who have a Fields in their female line. So, given this I suspect that Susan Stevens was originally a Fields or Manis. Thomas Lawson bought property nears the Fields and Manis families about 1847 and sold it about 1853. I believe that Susan was the woman who was charged with L&A with Peter Lawson about 1850. There is no marriage record for Thomas and Susan Lawson. However, the marriage records of Hawkins County were burned at the end of the war and were reconstructed from the carbonized fragments by the Clerk of the Court. This account of the burning and reconstruction is contained in a pension file. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ooops, meant to say William Howe (not his father Jacob) was in Claiborne Co., TN etc.. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WayneandDeborah Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/3463.30.2.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are rumors of Indian ancestry in the Jacob Howe (b: ca. 1755) line as well. He has a revolutionary war record and states that he was born in Germany. There are ties to Lancaster PA. The Shadrack & John Monk line are said to be germans. Jacob Howe was in Claiborne Co. (near Bryson Gibson and Wilkerson Martin) & Hawkins Co. TN, then Lee Co., VA early 1800s then left for OH by 1840. The Howes have ties to Graf (became Grove) and Klepper / Klipper etc. a family has a name similer to Klepferine in that in german, a female record for Klepfer would be noted as Klepferin. The Winsteads married into these Howes. Martins had a Paschal Martin just younger than our Paschal Lawson. Kleppers are near Banks/Hennis Lawson in 1830 IN. Mary "Polly" Howe (grand daughter of Jacob Howe above b: 1813 abt. @ TN d: 1910.03.15 @ MO, Nodaway Co. Maryville - at 97 years of old age) married 1832 to Andrew Roberts in Hawkins Co., TN sec. by Enoch Lawson. Old Jacob Howe's son William married Margaret Comer. Coomer is a name in Pulaski Co., KY and Stokes Co., NC near the Lawsons and also German Comers in the Pike Co., OH area. Could also be McComber etc. but not enough information. OH, Pike Co. related marriages include: Lawson, Patsy Monk, John Mar 30, 1844 (possible widow of Edmund Lawson of Hawkins Co., TN. John Monk lived w/Paschal Lawson in 1850 and near the others in District 4 area in Hawkins Co. in 1830 and 1836). Monk, Larken Comer, Malinda Apr 4, 1844 (s/o John Monk of Hawkins Co., TN & Pike Co., OH). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.