This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TinaSCloud84 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9524.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for that bit of info. Tina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjcboy23 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9524.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Alot of the Hawkins County obits would also be in the Kingsport Times News as well as the Rogersville Review. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TinaSCloud84 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9524.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the reply, and info that he died in Sullivan Co. The info I had was from his SS death index. Since he was a residence of Hawkins Co, I'm sure his obit would be in one of the papers in Hawkins Co. Again, thank you. Tina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjcboy23 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9524.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: TN Death Records show death date for John F Kendrick as 09-08-1982, age at death as 85, county of death, Sullivan, residence county Hawkins. http://register.shelby.tn.us/index.php Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TinaSCloud84 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9524/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could someone please do an obit look up for John Kindrick/Kendrick, died Sept 1982, Church Hill, Hawkins Co. I would like to find any children listed, and where John F Kindrick/Kendrick, is buried. Thank you for any help. Tina S Cloud Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjcboy23 Surnames: Ferrell, Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the pension, Minerva Jane Ferrell and Mary Ferrell refer to Margaret as a cousin, this struck me as odd at first, but after considering the ages of these two, they seem to be the right age to be the daughters of Alfred and Tamsey Ferrell. Margaret said that her father's sister was Tamsey Ferrell. This would make sense that Mary and Minerva would call Margaret a cousin, she would be their first cousin on their mother's Lawson side, on their father's Ferrell side, Margaret would be the wife to their uncle. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
MOST OF THE WAR PENSIONS FILES???????????????? THAT'S A LARGE NUMBER. SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT DAVID. WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THESE HARE-BRAINED IDEAS??? JAMES ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Ferrell, Lawson, Mabe info from Pension Record This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson, Ferrell. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx> Message Board Post: Most of the war pension files are filled with fraudlent affidavits from close relatives. This is one of the problems in making sense of this source of information. I wonder if the David Lawson story was one of those stories. There is no record of anyone named David Lawson. Also, the DNA data don't support many of the statements about relationships--unless Washington Lawson was not really the son of Martin Lawson as has been alleged--or possibly the connection was through the wives and not the husbands. The only known son of Burrell Lawson was James Lawson of 1850 Hancock County. His death record from Marshall County, KY names his parent as Burrell and Elenor Lawson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9523/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On ancestry.com it shows Curren applying for his CW pension 17 Sep 1889. And it shows Malinda applying for a widow's pension on 18 Mar 1911. My records show Curren didn't die until 24 Jul 1911. How did Malinda apply BEFORE Curren died? HELP! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjcboy23 Surnames: Ferrell, Murrell, Stapleton, Lawson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: David, The relationship is mentioned on a few of the affidavits. I have a bit of trouble reading the old style writing, but am pretty sure they are saying "David Lawson" at one point I wondered if they were saying "Daniel Lawson", it basically looks like a cursive capital S, which is what the capital D's look like in the pension, then a number of squiggly lines with a dot above them and then then lower case l like shape at the end. I am pretty confident in the David interpretation and as I have been transcribing more pages, I feel even more confident that I am getting the hang of the style and feel that they are saying David. In the future, I will try to get some of the pages scanned. I also got a few other pages transcribed last night. It was letters from the Pension Bureau to Margaret asking about her remarriage, the letter was from 1914. Then there was a letter to the Post Master at Eidson, TN asking if they could confirm an address for Margaret and who she married. Then a correction letter from the Post Master stating that they were wrong when they stated that she married to John Stapleton and that the correct info was H.G. Murrell and that she had been dead for about 7 years (making her date of death about 1907). The Post Master stated that it was Margaret's sister Manerva Ferrell that married John Stapleton. I believe that the Post Master was wrong in this relationship, I believe that the Minerva that married John Stapleton was the daughter of Tamsey and Alfred Ferrell. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson, Ferrell. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Most of the war pension files are filled with fraudlent affidavits from close relatives. This is one of the problems in making sense of this source of information. I wonder if the David Lawson story was one of those stories. There is no record of anyone named David Lawson. Also, the DNA data don't support many of the statements about relationships--unless Washington Lawson was not really the son of Martin Lawson as has been alleged--or possibly the connection was through the wives and not the husbands. The only known son of Burrell Lawson was James Lawson of 1850 Hancock County. His death record from Marshall County, KY names his parent as Burrell and Elenor Lawson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
The first Murrell families of hawkins Co. Tn are Cousin's of the Lawson Families ( as are the Payne families) See lines of William Murrell Tobacco Inspector of England living on Oldmans Creek in 1698. ( SURRY CO VA) Then go to his son Thomas Murrell married to Elizabeth Oliver (? on first names but Oliver is correct). This family removed from Sellars Creek to Byrd Creek in Goochland Co. Va by 1720 where I find them living my numerous families coming into Washington Co. NC.The Byrd Creek families is where we find the In Laws of Thomas Murrell (1)who are married to his daughter. This is also wheer the Payne and Jefferson familes intertwine. Check out the Neighborhood of Byrd Creek you will find other first families of lands of Washington Co NC ( now Hawksins Co. Tn) The Reverend Thomas Murrell who was married to the widow Rebekah Martin JOHNSON ( widow of James JOHNSON OF HENRY CO NC) came there with numerous settlers and kinsman and formed the Big Creek Baptist Church in Carters Valley. Tony L. Johnson Descended from Hudson Johnson and wife Agnes born 1740-1750 who followed the Primitive Baptist Minister Thomas Murrel into lands of Big Creek in Carters Valley. Hudson Johnson is one of the persons who laid out the town of Rogersville. ----- Original Message ----- From: TENNEVA@aol.com<mailto:TENNEVA@aol.com> To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 82 William Milburn Herron, son of Dulaney Herron and Mary Brown, does appear to be the Mulburn Herrin you are writing about. Dulaney's parents were William Herron and Nancy. This latter William's Scott County, Virginia will dated 30 Aug 1849 probated July 1850 lists his family as follows: wife Nancy, children; Delaney, William, Anderson T. (Tillman A. Herron), Deborah Herron Trusley, Nancy Herron Davis, Mary Herron, Rebecca Herron. It appears from the Will that Mary and Rebecca were living in the household at the time and were listed as caretakers of William and Nancy. I don't have Thurman as a brother to Milburn but I cannot rule that out. My interest in this posting is Nancy Herron Davis ca 1802 - ca 1848 who was the first wife of Jonathan Davis b ca 1802. _tenneva@aol.com<mailto:_tenneva@aol.com>_ (mailto:tenneva@aol.com<mailto:tenneva@aol.com>) In a message dated 4/21/2009 3:51:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tnhawkin-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:tnhawkin-request@rootsweb.com> writes: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lawson-Herron connection (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:28:10 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com<mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Lawson-Herron connection To: <TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1240255692.354485@rootsweb.com<mailto:1240255692.354485@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties<http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties>. hawkins/1354.1416/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1880 Census I found:23 June 1880, District 2, Hawkins Co., Geo. A. Murray enumerator 238, 240, Thurman Herring 25 and his wife, Perolee 18. 239, 241, Harvey Murrell who was married to Jane Lawson, daughter of Banks 240, 242, Banks Lawson and wife Thursey both 71 241, 243, Orville Murrell and wife Amanda Lawson, daughter of Banks 242, 244, Ambrose Lawson, son of Banks, and wife Amanda Murrell 243, 245, Curren Lawson, son of Banks & his family 244, 246, Milburn Herrin 37, Sarah 37, Ainorei?? 15 daughter, Thurman 10, Thomas 7, William 4 245, 247, William Buttry family I have some questions on this, too, maybe you know some of this. 1. Are Thurman Herring and Milburn Herrin brothers? 2. Who is the Sarah Lawson that married Milburn Herrin? With this cluster of Banks Lawson's children I am wondering if Sarah might be Banks' daughter. I don't have a Sarah, but it could be a middle name. Milburn Herrin is William Milburn Herron. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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William Milburn Herron, son of Dulaney Herron and Mary Brown, does appear to be the Mulburn Herrin you are writing about. Dulaney's parents were William Herron and Nancy. This latter William's Scott County, Virginia will dated 30 Aug 1849 probated July 1850 lists his family as follows: wife Nancy, children; Delaney, William, Anderson T. (Tillman A. Herron), Deborah Herron Trusley, Nancy Herron Davis, Mary Herron, Rebecca Herron. It appears from the Will that Mary and Rebecca were living in the household at the time and were listed as caretakers of William and Nancy. I don't have Thurman as a brother to Milburn but I cannot rule that out. My interest in this posting is Nancy Herron Davis ca 1802 - ca 1848 who was the first wife of Jonathan Davis b ca 1802. _tenneva@aol.com_ (mailto:tenneva@aol.com) In a message dated 4/21/2009 3:51:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tnhawkin-request@rootsweb.com writes: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lawson-Herron connection (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 19:28:10 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Lawson-Herron connection To: <TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1240255692.354485@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties. hawkins/1354.1416/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1880 Census I found:23 June 1880, District 2, Hawkins Co., Geo. A. Murray enumerator 238, 240, Thurman Herring 25 and his wife, Perolee 18. 239, 241, Harvey Murrell who was married to Jane Lawson, daughter of Banks 240, 242, Banks Lawson and wife Thursey both 71 241, 243, Orville Murrell and wife Amanda Lawson, daughter of Banks 242, 244, Ambrose Lawson, son of Banks, and wife Amanda Murrell 243, 245, Curren Lawson, son of Banks & his family 244, 246, Milburn Herrin 37, Sarah 37, Ainorei?? 15 daughter, Thurman 10, Thomas 7, William 4 245, 247, William Buttry family I have some questions on this, too, maybe you know some of this. 1. Are Thurman Herring and Milburn Herrin brothers? 2. Who is the Sarah Lawson that married Milburn Herrin? With this cluster of Banks Lawson's children I am wondering if Sarah might be Banks' daughter. I don't have a Sarah, but it could be a middle name. Milburn Herrin is William Milburn Herron. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------ To contact the TNHAWKIN list administrator, send an email to TNHAWKIN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the TNHAWKIN mailing list, send an email to TNHAWKIN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of TNHAWKIN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 82 *************************************** **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621490x1201450102/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26 hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooter421NO62)
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ktsok Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/1354.1416/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the 1880 Census I found:23 June 1880, District 2, Hawkins Co., Geo. A. Murray enumerator 238, 240, Thurman Herring 25 and his wife, Perolee 18. 239, 241, Harvey Murrell who was married to Jane Lawson, daughter of Banks 240, 242, Banks Lawson and wife Thursey both 71 241, 243, Orville Murrell and wife Amanda Lawson, daughter of Banks 242, 244, Ambrose Lawson, son of Banks, and wife Amanda Murrell 243, 245, Curren Lawson, son of Banks & his family 244, 246, Milburn Herrin 37, Sarah 37, Ainorei?? 15 daughter, Thurman 10, Thomas 7, William 4 245, 247, William Buttry family I have some questions on this, too, maybe you know some of this. 1. Are Thurman Herring and Milburn Herrin brothers? 2. Who is the Sarah Lawson that married Milburn Herrin? With this cluster of Banks Lawson's children I am wondering if Sarah might be Banks' daughter. I don't have a Sarah, but it could be a middle name. Milburn Herrin is William Milburn Herron. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjcboy23 Surnames: Ferrell, Lawson, Anderson, Stapleton, Mabe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9518.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here are the affidavits for Curren Lawson, John Stapleton, John Ferrell, and George Mabe. Page 138 State of Tennessee County of Hawkins In the matter of the pension claim #534,553 of Margaret Ferrill, wid of Jackson Ferrill Co I 10 Regt Tenn Infty Vols. Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state aforesaid Curren Lawson aged 55 years whose residence and post office address is Lee Valley, Hawkins Co, Tenn who being by me duly sworn according to law declares in relation to the above claim as follows: I have been acquainted with the claimant in this case from her childhood, we were raised and constantly lived in the same neighborhood till I went unto the army in the late war and I have lived in the same neighborhood she has pretty much ever since I got back home from the army in Sept 65. From my above acquaintance with here I am well known to the fact that she had never been married until she married Jackson Ferrill, the above soldier and that she has not remarried since I heard of his death somewhere about 16 or 18 years ago. They were married in the fall of the year after I got home from the army. I know the full pedigree of this claimant. She is an illegitimate child, her mothers name was Polly Mabe - her father was David Lawson these parties were not married, but she married a John Smith when the claimant was a small child This claimants right name, if it to be called after her mother, is Mabe but after her mother married she was generally called Smith, but some helf! on and called her Mabe. I never heard her called by the name of Lizzie. I knew her husband and his fathers family from Page 139 the time I was old enough to know anybody, his folks? lived on this side of the mountain the biggest part of the time but Jackson didn't but then he would be back and forwards in our neighborhood to see his people and I would get to see him in that way. He lived in my neighborhood from the time he married this claimant for about 11 or 12 years and then went to Va. where he got killed soon afterwards, but then he app? here back here when he want, his brother George married my sister and his brother Alfred married my cousin Tamsy If this soldier ever had been married before he married this claimant I never knew or heard of it in any way whatever, but then I know or rather I should have said that I heard, he kept on living with a woman of bad repute by the name of Deem Anderson for a good long while. This was before the breaking out of the Rebellion. I never heard of her being called by any other name than that of Deem Anderson during that time and I would frequently hear them? Talking? About for living that way whenever their names were brought up. This woman Anderson was living over here across the mountain in Cany? Valley when this claimant and soldier were married on this side of the mountain when she too some time afterwards moved over here and settled down to live in about two miles of them. I knew her very well afterwards. She never claimed to have been married to this soldier so far as I know or ever heard. She called herself Deem Anderson and I always called her such whenever I had reason to ! allude to her. Page 140 I can't say whether or not she was living with this soldier when he enlisted,, but come to think of it this couldn't have been for he told me after he got back that he enlisted out of the penitentiary at Nashville where he had been sent for killing Eph Anderson a brother of Deem's. And I further declare that in making the foregoing statement I have not used and am not aided or prompted by any written or printed statement or recited prepared or dictated by any other person and that such testimony was all written in my presence an only from my oral statement then made on the 6th day of July 1894 at Lee Valley Tenn. by Wm- Lawrence when where and to whom I made such oral statements and that I have no interest direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim. Curren Lawson Sworn to and subscribed before me this 6th day of July 1894 and I hereby certify that I read the foregoing affidavit over carefully to said affiant and that he fully understood its contents before he executed the same, and I further certify that I have no interest direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim and that said affiant is personally and well known to me to be respectable and entitled to full faith and credit. John Gilbert J P For Hawkins County Tenn I T.J. Parrott, clerk of the county court, in and for the county of Hawkins and state of Tennessee do hereby Page 141 certify that John Gilbert Esq before whom the foregoing affidavit was made was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for said county and state duly commissioned and sworn, that all his official acts are entitled to full faith and credit and that his signature there unto is genuine. Page 159 Witup? My hand and seal of office at Rogersville Tenn this 11th day of July 1894 T.J. Parrott Clerk of the County Court Additional testimony in Claim # 534,553 of Margaret Ferrill wid Jackson Ferrill Co I 10 Reg Tenn Infty Vol Afft of Curren Lawson P.O. Lee Valley Hawkins Co. Tenn Filed by claimant P.O. Lee Valley Tenn Page 156 Stamped US Pension Office July 18 1894 State of Tennessee Hawkins County In the matter of the pension claim of Margaret Ferrill #534,553. Widow of Jackson Ferrill Co I 10 Ret Tenn Infty Vols. Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the county and state aforesaid John Ferrill aged about 80 years a resident of the 17th civil district of Hawkins Co Tenn. And whose Post Office address is Alum Well Tenn who being by me duly sworn according to law declares in relation to the foregoing claim as follows: I am a brother of the soldier above referred to. He lived in my neighborhood for the greater part of the time from his childhood until he killed a brother of the woman he had been living with about 3 years before the breaking out of the late war. He lived a tolerable clm? neighbor to me for about 12 years or so before this killing occurred, he was not living with her at that time nor hadn't been for some little before. They lived together the most of the time for about 10 years or so previous to this killing. Her right name was Ludema Anderson, but she was always called "Deem" Anderson. I knew here well from her childhood for she always lived in my neighborhood - if theses parties ever got married before they commenced living together I know nothing of it. I never heard of their going to be up to be to that time, nor of their doing so after they commenced living Page157 together. I am certain I would have known or any way have heard of their marrying if it occurred for neither of them ever lived out of our neighborhood during the time I have said. I never knew him to call her wife or allude to her as being such. He always in such instances called her deem Anderson and very often by harder names than that. If either of them ever referred to one another as husband and wife in any of the conversations about each other with other people some body else will have to tell it for I know I never did. She was some right smart older that he was. She was net only called but known to be a base woman before, during and after they lived together. She had 4 children while they lived together. The oldest child name was Tilda Ann but then he didn't lay any claim to her or to Jim the youngest one but did to the other two Martha and Bill, but then she was so liberal in her disgraceful doings that it would It would be hard to tell who the father of any of these children was, and the nearest way it could be rightly got at was by guessing who the person was the children most favored. And I further declare that in making the forgoing statement I have not used and am not aided or prompted by any written or printed statements or recited prepared or dictated by other person and that such testimony was all written in my presence and only from my oral statements then made on the 2nd day of July 1894 at my residence Page 158 in the 17th civil district of Hawkins Co. Tenn by Wm- Lawrence, when where and to whom I made such oral statements, and that I have no interest, direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim. John x Ferrill (above and below x reads "his mark") Wm- Lawrence C.H. Thomas Sworn to and subscribed before me this 3d day of July 1894 and I hereby certify that I read the foregoing affidavit over carefully to said affiant including the words "be, was" added and that he fully understood its contents before he executed the same, and I further certify that I have no interest direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim and that said affiant is personally and well known to me to be respectable and entitled to full faith and credit. John Gilbert J P For Hawkins County Tenn I T.J. Parrott, clerk of the county court, in and for the county of Hawkins and state of Tennessee do hereby certify that John Gilbert Esq before whom the foregoing affidavit was made was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for said county and state duly commissioned and sworn, that all his official acts are entitled to full faith and credit and that his signature there unto is genuine. Page 159 Witup? My hand and seal of office at Rogersville Tenn this 11th day of July 1894 T.J. Parrott Clerk of the County Court Additional Testimony in Claim 534,553 of Margaret Ferrill wid Jackson Ferrill Col I 10 Regt Tenn Infy Vol Affit of John Ferrill P.O. Alum Well Hawkins County, Tenn Filed by Claimant Page 134 State of Tennessee County of Hawkins In the matter of the pension claim of Margaret Ferrill wid Jackson Ferrell Co I 10th Regt Tenn Infty Vol, #534,553 Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the count and state aforesaid John Stapleton aged 63 years whose residence and P.O. address is Lee Valley Hawkins Co. Tenn. Who being by me duly sworn declared in relation to the foregoing claim as follows: I have known the claimant in this case before she know herself. She has never lived outside of the settelment ?unless? she did so while I was in the army for outside of that time I have always lived in this neighborhood and I have all along found her to be one of us. I was well acquainted in my young days with her mother and the man that was said to be her (the claimants) father - she (the claimant) was not by marriage for her mother was a single woman at that time - her mothers name when Margaret was born was Polly Maab but she married John Smith when this child was about 3 or 4 years old and after that she was called Smith by most people while some kept on calling her Maab until she married Jackson Ferrill, the above soldier - I never knew her to go by or be called by any other name than that of Margaret. I was present when these parties got married. Same? Occurred about a mile from here where Mrs. Cornelia Rogers now lives at the residence of W- Ezekial Anderson. The ceremony was per- Page 135 Formed by Mr. Brown a minister of the people. I can't rightly say whether or not the claimant was married under the name of Margaret, but since that question has been asked to me it has brung to my mind that Mr? Brown wanted to change the name of Martha that the marriage license called for to Margaret before he went on to marry them and I remember well that there arose a dispute among those present if it would be right to change the license but anyway after considerable haggling, it was concluded that it didn't make any difference as she was the person the licenses was intended and if? wed for and she on who was going to get married on it, and so Mr? Brown went ahead and married them, but I can't say whether or not he changed the license from Martha to Margaret. This marriage took place as well as I can remember in comprilling? time in the face of the year after I came home from the army - this was in 1865. I remember the month but not the day of the month, it was somewhere along in the pre part of November. I was acquainted with this soldier from his boyhood, he lived in our settlement from the time he was a chunk of a boy for several years when he went back across the mountain and lived in Cany? Valley, but he would come over here every once in a while to see his people who lived on our side of the mountain until after he killed Eph Anderson and after he married this claimant he always lived in my neighborhood Page 136 until he went off to Pattonsville, Scott Co. Va to live when he soon afterwards got killed, he did not take his wife with him when he went. I am certain and positively so from my acquaintance with this claimant that she is the identical woman who married the above soldier no matter by what name she is represented in the application for pension or in any evidence she may have filed in its support. >From my regular acquaintance with her as a close neighbor since I heard of her hubands death about 17 or 18 years ago I am certain that she has not remarried since then. And I further declare that in making the foregoing statement I hav not used and am not aided or prompted by any written or printed statement or recited prepared or dictated by any other person, and that such testimony was all written in my presence and was only from my oral statements then made on the 6th day of July 1894 at Lee Valley Tenn. By Wm Lawrence, when where and to whom I made such oral statements and that I have no interest direct of indirect in the prosecution of this claim. I am in nowise related to this claimant. John x Stapleton (above and below x reads "his mark") Wm Lawrence W?. S. Stapleton Sworn to and subscribed before me this 6th day of July 1894, and I hereby certify that I read the foregoing affidavit over carefully to said affiant, making the word "which" erased and the words "if it" added and that Page 137 he fully understood its contents before he executed the same and I further certify that I have not interest direct or indirect in the prosecution of this claim and that said affiant is personally and well known to me to be respectable and entitled to full faith and credit. John Gilbert J P For Hawkins Co. Tenn I T.J. Parrott, clerk of the county court, and for the county of Hawkins and state of Tennessee do hereby certify that John Gilbert Esq before whom the foregoing affidavit was made was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for said county and stae duly commissioned and sworn, that all his official acts are entitled to full faith and credit and that his signature there unto is genuine. Witup? My hand and seal of office at Rogersville Tenn this 11th day of July 1894 T.J. Parrott Clerk of the County Court Additional Testimony in Claim 534,553 of Margaret Ferrill wid Jackson Ferrill Col I 10 Regt Tenn Infy Vol Affit of John Stapleton P.O. Lee Valley Hawkins Co, Tenn Filed by Claimant P.O. Lee Valley Hawkins Co Tenn Page 130 State of Tennessee County of Hawkins In the matter of the pension claim of Margaret Ferrill wif Jackson Ferrill Co I 10th Regt Tenn Cav Vol. #534,553. Personally appeared before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the count an state aforesaid George Mabe, aged 50 years and a resident of the 19th civil district of Hawkins Co. Tenn and whose Post Office address is Camilia, Hawkins Co, Tenn, who being by me duly sworn according to law declares in relation to the foregoing claim as follows: I have been acquainted with the claimant in this case all my life. We have resided in the in the Laws Littermans? all the time? Except while I was off in the war. Her and I am 1st cousins. She is said to be of illegitimate birth and I am sure (Note does this say "I am sure" or "I unsure"?) it is so for if I have been informed? conistly ? her mother was not married when she was born. A man by the name of David Lawson is her reputed father. Her mothers maiden name was Polly Mabe but she married a man by the name of Smith when this claimant was a very small child. At least such has been my uprriination? Throughout my recollection of this claimant she has been called by both names, Mabe and Smith, until she got married. She lived with her mother until she died and then went to live with W- Ezekial Anderson over here in the 2nd civil district of this county where Capt. Roger's widow now lives and she lived with him after that until she married Jackson Ferrill. Her proper ;maiden name, if she is to be called after her mother is Margaret Mabe, but some people have all the time and do yet pronounce the name as if Page 131 spelled Maab (note from transcriber, over first a is a line, over second a is a u, in the following Mahab, a line is over the first a) or Mahab. I never knew her to be called Lizzie or Martha, but she may have been by one or both as far as I can say. I was not acquainted with her husband before the war any further than to know who he was when I say him and didn't know him any better until directly after he married this claimant when him and I went to Rogersville together to fix up our claims of with? The government this was what I would consider our just acquaintance and while on this trip we talked a great deal about our service as well as the other matters. He then told me that he belonged to the 110th Tenn Infty and him? He came to join it. This was that he volunteered out of the penitentiary where he had been for killing a man by the name of Eph Anderson in a pup? He got into with him on election day and which originated through Andersons sister by whom he had 2 or three children. I was not present when the claimant and soldier were married but I heard of it directly it took place. If I have been rightly informed she was living at Mr. Ezekial Andersons when it took place. I never heard until this date that she was married under the name of Martha Mahab or Mahob, if she was I am positively certain from my acquaintance with her that she was married under the wrong Christian name and spelling of the "Liz" name for I know this claimant to be the only Margaret Mabe I ever knew and to be the wife of this soldier for after I got acquaintance with him (after he married her) in the manner I have said I soon afterwards went and boarded at their home for about a year and therefore I know her to be the woman in question. I never heard him say whether or not he had Page 132 been previously married but he told me this when I jist? got acquainted with him that he had some children by a woman that lived across the mt in caney valley and that he was going to take them away from her as he would not let them stay with such a thing as she was and it was after that when I went to his house to live and I found these children there. Their names were Martha and William from my above acquaintance with this claimant I am certain that she has not remarried since the death of her husband about 18 or 19 years ago. I have lived in the same vicinity with her since I heard of his death. And I further declare that in making the foregoing statements I have not used am not aided or prompted by any written or printed statement or recited prepared or dictated by any other Person and that such testimony was all written in my presence and only my oral stamen then made on the 8th day of July 1894 at my residence in the 19th civil district of Hawkins Co. Tenn by Wm Lawrence, when where and to whom I made such oral statements and that I have no interest direct of indirect in the prosecution of this claim. George Mabe Sworn to and subscribed before me the is 6th day of July 1894, and I hereby certify that I read the foregoing affidavit over carefully to said affiant and that he fully understood its contents before he executed the same in directing the word? "known" adding and I further certify that I have no interest direct or Page 133 indirect in the prosecution of this claim and that said affiant is personally and well known to me to be respectable and entitiled to full faith and credit. John Gilbert J yr? For Hawkins Co Tenn T.J. Parrott, clerk of the county cour in and for the county of Hawkins and state of Tennessee do hereby certify that John Gilbert Esq before whom the forgoing affidavit was made was at the time of so doing a Justice of the Peace in and for said county and state duly commissioned and sworn that all his official acts are entitled to full faith and credit and that his signature hereunto is genuine. Witup? My hand and seal of office at Rogersville Tenn this 11th day of July 1894 T.J. Parrott Clerk of the County Court. Additional Testimony in Claim 534,553 of Margaret Ferrill wid Jackson Ferrill Col I 10 Regt Tenn Infy Vol Affit of George Mabe P.O. Carmelia Hawkins Co, Tenn Filed by Claimant P.O. 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I am looking for the parents of Mary Ann Anderson b.1830s or early 1840s. She married Adam Warden in Hawkins Co. April 27, 1856 . By 1870 they were living in Lee Co. VA. Or I could anyone help me eliminate these Mary ann Andersons I found on the 1850 census living In Hawkins and Hancock ? Mary Ann Anderson age 17 b,1833,living District 13, Hawkins ,TN living with: Albert Anderson 10 Amanda Anderson 43 Emily Anderson 38 Eveline Anderson 1 Horace Anderson 6 Malvina Anderson 40 Sarah Anderson 65 Thomas Anderson 12 Thomas M Anderson 32 Mariann Anderson age 8, v.1842 TN ,living Subdivision 33, Hancock TN living with: Clabourn Anderson 16 Eliza(Elijah) Anderson 43 Elizabeth Anderson 40 Emly Anderson 20 Esley Anderson 3 Jane Anderson 18 LealeyAnderson 12 Manervey Anderson 14 Melvin Anderson 10 Mary A. Anderson b.1842 TN living Subdivision 33, Hancock, TN living with: Amanda Anderson 3 C.H. Anderson 30 Elender Anderson 29 GeorgeAnderson 6 Layfaett Anderson 9 Thanks, Jolene
It is just about impossible to help without some kind of a date of when he was born, or died or even lived. It also helps immensely to give whatever info you have--such as the names and dates of wife and children. In a message dated 4/17/2009 11:09:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WhatcomGenealogy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties. hawkins/2184.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good Evening, Perhaps one of you would like to help me try and find Jesse Thorp - e in Fauquier Co., Va. I have received a lead that said he was from there. Beth Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WhatcomGenealogy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/2184.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good Evening, Perhaps one of you would like to help me try and find Jesse Thorp - e in Fauquier Co., Va. I have received a lead that said he was from there. Beth Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Marcus; A TNSSAR Chapter is holding a SAR Grave Marker Service for Capt. Tom Amis, in Rogersville on June 20, 2009. Patriot Amis is one of 200 patriots that I have found buried in Hawkins Co., TN. We are very much interested in forming an SAR Chapter in Hawkins County but need some local support. If interested, please contact me. Bob Hughes, Past Pres. TNSSAR "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Marcus McBeen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:30 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter Hello Bob, Just checking in on my application for SAR membership. Thanks, Marcus McBeen Bob Betty Hughes wrote: > Anyone interested in being a charter member of a historic SAR chapter, please contact us. There are more than 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins County, TN. > Bob Hughes > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. > There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. > Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:48 PM > To: TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Martha Ferrell and Lafayette Purcell > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: drdjones > Surnames: Ferrell, Smith, Hutchinson, Anderson > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9520.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Jackson and Ludema were married on 28 Nov 1850 by Hawkins County JP William Hutchinson. Richard Smith posted the security bond. Going to jail did not grant a divorce. The Civil War pension files are full of fradulent affidavits. That is why they are important. Almost all of the affidavits are penned by very close relatives. There is probably more to this story than meets the eye. As far as I can tell from the records, Jackson Ferrell never married her. This is why you can't actually believe anything anyone said in these files without further research, including who they were related to. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drdjones Surnames: Lawson, Martin, Wolf, Wolfe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9522/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a Eastern Cherokee applicaton for Edwin Lawson, son of Wilkerson Lawson, and for Alfred M. Martin, Edwin's uncle. Taken together, the files show that: 1. Edwin Lawson was the son of Wilkerson Lawson and Mahala Martin. 2. Wilkerson Lawson was the son of Hennis Lawson and Jaley (family not named). 3. Mahala Martin was the daughter of William Martin and Susan Wolf. 4. Wilkerson Lawson died on August 25, 1896 and Mahala Martin Lawson died January ?, 1896. 5. Alfred M. Martin was the son of William Martin (white man) and Susan Wolf and the brother of Mahala Martin. 6. William Martin was the son of Thomas and Elizabeth Martin. 7. Susan Wolf b. 1807 in Claiborne County, TN, was the daughter of George Wolf and the grandaughter of Dennis Wolf. 8. Susan Wolf Martin died in 1851 and William Martin died in 1866. 9. Other brothers and sisters of Alfred M. and Mahala Martin included Thomas F. Martin, Mary J. Ellis, Moses Martin, Martha Mitchell, Catherine M. Warren, and Margaret Buttry. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Marcus: So far as I know it is going through. Wuld have heard something if it wasn't. I'll check the status board. Bob "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. -----Original Message----- From: Marcus McBeen Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:30 PM To: tnhawkin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] State of Franklin TNSSAR Chapter Hello Bob, Just checking in on my application for SAR membership. Thanks, Marcus McBeen Bob Betty Hughes wrote: > Anyone interested in being a charter member of a historic SAR chapter, please contact us. There are more than 200 Rev. War Patriots buried in Hawkins County, TN. > Bob Hughes > > "Do not go where the path may lead; Go where there is no path and leave a trail"---Emerson > Opportunities never come to those who wait...they are captured by those who dare to attack. > There are 2 kinds of people, those that do the work and those who take the credit. > Try to be in the 1st group, there is less competition there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:48 PM > To: TNHAWKIN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNHAWKIN] Martha Ferrell and Lafayette Purcell > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: drdjones > Surnames: Ferrell, Smith, Hutchinson, Anderson > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.hawkins/9520.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Jackson and Ludema were married on 28 Nov 1850 by Hawkins County JP William Hutchinson. Richard Smith posted the security bond. Going to jail did not grant a divorce. The Civil War pension files are full of fradulent affidavits. That is why they are important. Almost all of the affidavits are penned by very close relatives. There is probably more to this story than meets the eye. As far as I can tell from the records, Jackson Ferrell never married her. This is why you can't actually believe anything anyone said in these files without further research, including who they were related to. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHAWKIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message