Carol, This probably won't fix your brick wall, but will give you something to think about. 1830 Census, Henderson Co., TN Page 102, Charles Hopper 010101-111001 Page 103, Hiram Frost 001001-010001 There were 11 names separating Charles and Hiram. Thomas Hopper lived about 5 doors away from Hiram. There also was an Archibald Hopper living nearby, but no other Frosts. 1840 Census, Henderson Co., TN Page 328, Charles Hopper 0101101-0021 1840 Census, Franklin Co., TN Page 70, Hiram Frost 0000001-222001 Henderson Co., TN is immediately north of Hardin County and adjacent to the 13th Civil District of Hardin Co. where Charles and Louisa Hopper lived in 1850. David ----- Original Message ----- From: c e boles To: David Cagle Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: Re: help in hardin co tn thank you I did not know about charles hooper's death...I don't know where to go to find the frost children's father's name...Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: David Cagle To: c e boles Cc: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: Re: help in hardin co tn Carol, I find very little more than you have shown. Apparently Louisa married Charles Hopper, Sr. before 1850. Jacob Johnson may have been married to one of his daughters. Louisa's daughter, Elizabeth Frost age 12, also lived with them. An inquest on 01 October 1855 found that Charles Hopper fell or was thrown from a horse in the lane near Saltillo on 24 September 1855 which resulted in his death. Jacob Johnson was administrator of his estate. In 1850, Zechariah Frost, age 15 lived with James M. Hooks. William C. Frost, age 16, lived with Meady White. David ----- Original Message ----- From: c e boles To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:07 PM Subject: help in hardin co tn I got your name from Sue Palmer Elliott and maybe you can help or point me in the right way...My great grandfather was Zachariah frost and this Frost bunch is hard to find..He was born in Hardin co 1835 and so was his brother Wm Carroll frost b 1834 and both boys were put in someone's home to work( 1850 census) Their mother was Louisa Frost( shown Louisa Hooper in Johnson home 1850 census) I am not sure that Louisa was married to Hooper man as 10 years later she is in Houston Co Tn as Louisa frost as well as the boys who were married and both died in civil war.I can't go backwards because I have hit a wall as to their father...Can you help? Thanks Carol