Edgar, I have never seen a stone marker either. You all may have more rocks than we do. The old deeds that I am most familiar with refer to mile posts. I guess that could have been wood or stone? I have seen pictures of some of the State stone markers that were very impressive. I doubt seriously that the County Surveys were ever marked very clearly except by the land owner. As of yet, I have never surveyed a tract of land where the corners coincided with a range and section corner, that I know of. I know were one or two are, but have not searched them out yet. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Edgar D. Byler, III <[email protected]> To: David Cagle <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re: plat book > David, > > I think I must needs bring you to task. I agree that the old range and > section lines are not marked in any form on today's maps, but the land bears > markers if they still exist. There are several mile and corner markers still > in existance in Wayne County. People often don't give them a second > thought, but they are piles of rocks (for the mile markers) or hewn stone > markers (especially for the corners). There are possible two mile markers > west of Collinwood. I've not seen them, but oldtimers have told me they are > or were there and that's what they called them. > > Yes, it would indeed be a good project for a historical society to try and > find these markers and save them. It is a piece of our history and > geography that will soon disappear if is hasn't already. > > Edgar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:07 PM > Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re: plat book > > > > Melanie, > > The place where D. A. Baxter lived was probably in Range XIII, Section IV, > > Seventh Surveyor's District. Don't confuse these ranges and sections with > > those of other states. As soon as all the public lands were sold in > > Tennessee, those original descriptions were almost never used again. Very > > few people today can even find a range or section line. They are not > marked > > in any way. Sounds like a good project for the Historical Society. > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Melanie Wood <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:00 AM > > Subject: Re: plat book > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > Thanks for answering so quickly. Yes, David Baxter lived at > > > Crossroads...what is the section,range, etc? > > > John and Nancy Bundy lived around Olive Hill, I think. Their daughter > > Lydia > > > Bundy married William J. Smith. These are my gr-gr and gr-gr-gr > > > grandparents. Supposedly on Bundy's land there is an old barn supposed > to > > > be the original cabin. > > > Thanks!!! > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > > > >To: "Melanie Wood" <[email protected]> > > > >Subject: Re: plat book > > > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:01:57 -0600 > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Received: from mailmx.centurytel.net ([209.142.136.96]) by > > > >mc10-f14.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Mon, 8 Mar > > 2004 > > > >19:55:32 -0800 > > > >Received: from cen11287 (ppp317.av.centurytel.net [209.206.155.156])by > > > >mailmx.centurytel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i293tSIR000404for > > > ><[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:55:30 -0600 (CST) > > > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jF4KkBuPcVLyPdmxwUPWB+J > > > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > >References: <[email protected]> > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > > >Return-Path: [email protected] > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2004 03:55:32.0285 (UTC) > > > >FILETIME=[5E888ED0:01C4058A] > > > > > > > >I think David A. Baxter lived at Cross Roads, just east of the church > > that > > > >is there now. If not him. I know his son lived there. > > > >I'll check further. Bundy is new to me? > > > >David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: Melanie Wood <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:33 PM > > > >Subject: plat book > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > How have you been? I received my latest Hardin County Historian > today > > > >and > > > > > have been busily reading every article! > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if you had access to an original plat book of Hardin > > > >County? > > > > > Or maybe one in the late 1800's? I would like to know where David > > > >Baxter > > > > > had land...which section, township, and range. Also I would like > the > > > >same > > > > > information about John Bundy although he might have been in Wayne > > > >County. > > > > > > > > > > If you can help me with any of this, I would appreciate it very > much. > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click > here. > > > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at Tech > > > Hacks & Scams. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/techsafety.armx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > > > > > > > > >
David, Since the surveyors who did the range and section lines in the districts were not county surveyors and did get paid by the mile and expenses (and knowing all government employees appreciate addition funds) I'm fairly certain that the crews doing the surveying would have at least made an attempt at a permanent marker for the corners. That is if they were drunk out of their minds each evening. What do you know about the "meridian lines" which were ordered by the State to be created in each county for the purpose of "clarifying" surveys? I don't remember the exact date of the act, but each county was supposed to creat on and all surveys made in the county after that date were supposed to tie to that line. I've never seen any references to the "meridian line" in Wayne County in any of the old surveys or grants. All of them, including those as late as 1928, refer to the old section and range lines. Edgar ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> To: "Edgar D. Byler, III" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re: plat book > Edgar, > I have never seen a stone marker either. You all may have more rocks than > we do. The old deeds that I am most familiar with refer to mile posts. I > guess that could have been wood or stone? I have seen pictures of some of > the State stone markers that were very impressive. I doubt seriously that > the County Surveys were ever marked very clearly except by the land owner. > As of yet, I have never surveyed a tract of land where the corners coincided > with a range and section corner, that I know of. I know were one or two > are, but have not searched them out yet. > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edgar D. Byler, III <[email protected]> > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:25 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re: plat book > > > > David, > > > > I think I must needs bring you to task. I agree that the old range and > > section lines are not marked in any form on today's maps, but the land > bears > > markers if they still exist. There are several mile and corner markers > still > > in existance in Wayne County. People often don't give them a second > > thought, but they are piles of rocks (for the mile markers) or hewn stone > > markers (especially for the corners). There are possible two mile markers > > west of Collinwood. I've not seen them, but oldtimers have told me they > are > > or were there and that's what they called them. > > > > Yes, it would indeed be a good project for a historical society to try and > > find these markers and save them. It is a piece of our history and > > geography that will soon disappear if is hasn't already. > > > > Edgar > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:07 PM > > Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re: plat book > > > > > > > Melanie, > > > The place where D. A. Baxter lived was probably in Range XIII, Section > IV, > > > Seventh Surveyor's District. Don't confuse these ranges and sections > with > > > those of other states. As soon as all the public lands were sold in > > > Tennessee, those original descriptions were almost never used again. > Very > > > few people today can even find a range or section line. They are not > > marked > > > in any way. Sounds like a good project for the Historical Society. > > > David > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Melanie Wood <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:00 AM > > > Subject: Re: plat book > > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > Thanks for answering so quickly. Yes, David Baxter lived at > > > > Crossroads...what is the section,range, etc? > > > > John and Nancy Bundy lived around Olive Hill, I think. Their daughter > > > Lydia > > > > Bundy married William J. Smith. These are my gr-gr and gr-gr-gr > > > > grandparents. Supposedly on Bundy's land there is an old barn > supposed > > to > > > > be the original cabin. > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > > > > >To: "Melanie Wood" <[email protected]> > > > > >Subject: Re: plat book > > > > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:01:57 -0600 > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > >Received: from mailmx.centurytel.net ([209.142.136.96]) by > > > > >mc10-f14.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Mon, 8 > Mar > > > 2004 > > > > >19:55:32 -0800 > > > > >Received: from cen11287 (ppp317.av.centurytel.net > [209.206.155.156])by > > > > >mailmx.centurytel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id > i293tSIR000404for > > > > ><[email protected]>; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:55:30 -0600 (CST) > > > > >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jF4KkBuPcVLyPdmxwUPWB+J > > > > >Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > > >References: <[email protected]> > > > > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > > > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > > > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > > > >Return-Path: [email protected] > > > > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2004 03:55:32.0285 (UTC) > > > > >FILETIME=[5E888ED0:01C4058A] > > > > > > > > > >I think David A. Baxter lived at Cross Roads, just east of the church > > > that > > > > >is there now. If not him. I know his son lived there. > > > > >I'll check further. Bundy is new to me? > > > > >David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: Melanie Wood <[email protected]> > > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:33 PM > > > > >Subject: plat book > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > How have you been? I received my latest Hardin County Historian > > today > > > > >and > > > > > > have been busily reading every article! > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if you had access to an original plat book of > Hardin > > > > >County? > > > > > > Or maybe one in the late 1800's? I would like to know where > David > > > > >Baxter > > > > > > had land...which section, township, and range. Also I would like > > the > > > > >same > > > > > > information about John Bundy although he might have been in Wayne > > > > >County. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can help me with any of this, I would appreciate it very > > much. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click > > here. > > > > > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at > Tech > > > > Hacks & Scams. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/techsafety.armx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >