This was written by the late Charlene Holland. You can find the full version of this essay, along with information and a photo of Charlene at http://www.rootsweb.com/~arscott/charlene.htm -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Drexel Hendon Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:08 AM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHARDIN] The Meaning of Genealogy Genealogy According to the dictionary genealogy is: 1. A record or account of the descent of a family, group or person from an ancestor or ancestors; a family tree. 2. Direct descent from a progenitor; lineage or pedigree. 3. The study or investigation of ancestry and family histories. To me, however, genealogy is a whole lot more than those three dry sentences. It is finding my roots, my family, and my home. It is seeing my grandparents as a young couple in a census record with their two baby girls; children who I know will be dead within the year. It is seeing my mother as a one-month-old child. It is seeing my great grandfather's signature on Civil War records and knowing that he and others like him must have gone through h ell. It is even finding the skeletons in the closets or the black sheep of the family. It is finding that my family went through some terrible times, but also knowing that they survived. It is seeing in my mind's eye the careworn faces of all of those who have gone on before me. It is listening to old stories told by our elders and passing those precious stories down. It is writing down those stories and facts for our children and their children. It is finding cousins I had not seen or heard from in fifty years. It is finding new cousins and new friends, people who have come to mean so very much to me. It is the realization of how important family is. It is the realization of how important it is to honor those ancestors who came before us. & amp;n bsp; But most of all, it is the sharing of information with others who like me love the research. It is not just dusty records or words. It is not only sharing the excitement of finding a new ancestor, but also sharing the frustrations of not be-ing able to find what you are looking for. It is the bouncing of ideas back and forth of theories of what might be and commiserating with another when that theory falls through, which it often does. It is being able to say "Look! Look what I have found!" and knowing that your excitement will be shared and understood. It is being able ask a question on a mailing list, knowing that what you are asking may be dumb but knowing that you will not be treated with disrespect. It is people who give of their time and their energies to help you. It is p eople who volunteer their time and energies to do lookups on the various county web pages. It is people who volunteer their time and energies for the various historical societies. It is people who give of their time to transcribe old documents and microfilm, and who share that knowl-edge, whether it is through books sold by historical societies or on web pages. It is people who go through old cemeteries and take the time to write down those who are buried there and share that knowledge gladly. It is people who share old photographs, old letters and their old family stories, not expecting anything back other than a thank you and the knowledge that they have helped another in their family quest. It is people who go above and beyond what is asked of them because they love genealogy. They love the fun of it, the frustrations of it andthe excitement of it. It is also the knowledge that you are passing down something of worth; that you are leaving behind a little something of yourself. It is the knowledge that through all of your research you may have made a difference, however small it may be. That is a little of what genealogy means to me. (author unknown) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Genealogy According to the dictionary genealogy is: 1. A record or account of the descent of a family, group or person from an ancestor or ancestors; a family tree. 2. Direct descent from a progenitor; lineage or pedigree. 3. The study or investigation of ancestry and family histories. To me, however, genealogy is a whole lot more than those three dry sentences. It is finding my roots, my family, and my home. It is seeing my grandparents as a young couple in a census record with their two baby girls; children who I know will be dead within the year. It is seeing my mother as a one-month-old child. It is seeing my great grandfather's signature on Civil War records and knowing that he and others like him must have gone through h ell. It is even finding the skeletons in the closets or the black sheep of the family. It is finding that my family went through some terrible times, but also knowing that they survived. It is seeing in my mind's eye the careworn faces of all of those who have gone on before me. It is listening to old stories told by our elders and passing those precious stories down. It is writing down those stories and facts for our children and their children. It is finding cousins I had not seen or heard from in fifty years. It is finding new cousins and new friends, people who have come to mean so very much to me. It is the realization of how important family is. It is the realization of how important it is to honor those ancestors who came before us. & amp;n bsp; But most of all, it is the sharing of information with others who like me love the research. It is not just dusty records or words. It is not only sharing the excitement of finding a new ancestor, but also sharing the frustrations of not be-ing able to find what you are looking for. It is the bouncing of ideas back and forth of theories of what might be and commiserating with another when that theory falls through, which it often does. It is being able to say "Look! Look what I have found!" and knowing that your excitement will be shared and understood. It is being able ask a question on a mailing list, knowing that what you are asking may be dumb but knowing that you will not be treated with disrespect. It is people who give of their time and their energies to help you. It is p eople who volunteer their time and energies to do lookups on the various county web pages. It is people who volunteer their time and energies for the various historical societies. It is people who give of their time to transcribe old documents and microfilm, and who share that knowl-edge, whether it is through books sold by historical societies or on web pages. It is people who go through old cemeteries and take the time to write down those who are buried there and share that knowledge gladly. It is people who share old photographs, old letters and their old family stories, not expecting anything back other than a thank you and the knowledge that they have helped another in their family quest. It is people who go above and beyond what is asked of them because they love genealogy. They love the fun of it, the frustrations of it andthe excitement of it. It is also the knowledge that you are passing down something of worth; that you are leaving behind a little something of yourself. It is the knowledge that through all of your research you may have made a difference, however small it may be. That is a little of what genealogy means to me. (author unknown)

Bob, John A. Stanfield, 1843-1893, md Elizabeth Jane Copeland, 1840-1916, their children were: 1. Malinda "Sissy" Catherine Stanfield Thompson 2. James Wallace"Jimbuck" Stanfield 3. Eletha Jane Stanfield Turner, 1865-1928, md Robert Finley Turner, 1860-1946, my g/grandparents. 4. Sarah E. Stanfiled Polk 5. Nancy L. Stanfield Wells 6. Mary "Mollie"Victoria Stanfield Polk 7. Flora Mattie Stanfield Curtis 8. Elijah Jason Stanfield twin 9. Jesse P. Stanfield twin 10. Emma B. Stanfield 11. John Y.Parker Stanfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Young" <bobbyy@lakeviewnet.com> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > David, Did JohnA. Stanfield & Elizabeth Jane Copeland Stanfield have a > Daughter, Renna that married a Jim Young.? If so ,Do you have any > information on Renna & Jim Young.? Thanks, Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> > To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > > >> Nedra, >> The house you are referring to belonged to my g/g/grandparents, John A. >> and >> Elizabeth Jane Copeland Stanfield. He died about 1894 and she in 1916. >> Their son, James Wallace "Jimbuck" Stanfield lived there until about >> 1943. >> The property and perhaps the house belonged to Josiah Alexander before >> John >> Stanfield bought same. >> >> The Callens house was located on the old Patton Ferry Road near where the >> Cagles lived if you know where that is. I can give you better directions >> if >> you can give me another house or two in this community. When I first >> remember, about 1943, Ken Ferrell lived in the Callens House. Milton >> Davis >> fixed it up about the end of the 2nd war and it burned about 1946-48, >> somewhere along that time. >> >> David >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <marlingg@att.net> >> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo >> >> >>> David, My Uncle, Earl Alexander and his family lived in the Callens >>> house behind the cemetary and Baptist >>> church for a short time, maybe a year or so. We would go down and spend >>> the night , me and siblings. It >>> was so interesting to be in the house. It had an upstairs and remember >>> the long kitchen, Aunt Catherine >>> would cook in. We would go over to the church and cemetary to play. Ha >>> Lot of our ancestors were >>> sleeping there. Is the house still there? Was it ever restored. >>> >>> Enjoy your info always, Nedra Alexander >>> >>> >>> -------------- Original message from "David Cagle" >>> <dcagle1@charter.net>: -------------- >>> >>> >>>> The Callens family in Hardin County was headed by Thomas who appears to >>>> have >>>> arrived in Hardin Co., TN about 1834. The 1840 census shows the >>>> following: >>>> >>>> 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN >>>> Thomas Callens 213001-010001 >>>> Thomas died and was buried in Goshen Cemetery at Swift. >>>> 03/06/1802-12/17/1845. His wife Margaret Polk Callens is buried there >>>> also. >>>> 05/17/1804-01/02/1873. >>>> >>>> 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN >>>> 43 Margaret (Polk) Callens 45 NC 2nd C. D. >>>> William M. 22 NC >>>> Thomas L. 20 NC >>>> Charles P. 18 NC >>>> Margaret E. 16 TN >>>> Robert H. 14 TN >>>> Francis C. 12 TN >>>> Mary E. 10 TN >>>> Elam R. 7 TN >>>> Mitchell C. 5 TN >>>> >>>> 66 John C. Callens 24 NC 6th C. D. >>>> Mary C. 17 TN >>>> William T. 1 TN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo >>>> >>>> >>>> > My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves >>>> > around >>>> > Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with >>>> > whip-snapping >>>> > the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family >>>> > relatives were famous for.] >>>> > >>>> > I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, >>>> > CO., >>>> > MO? >>>> > In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of >>>> > that >>>> > family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from >>>> > home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. >>>> > >>>> > Love to read your childhood stories. >>>> > Carolyn >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ************************************** See what's free at >>>> > http://www.aol.com. >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: >>>> > 7/9/2007 >>>> > 5:22 PM >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in >>>> the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: >>> 7/12/2007 >>> 4:08 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 > 4:08 PM > >

David, Did JohnA. Stanfield & Elizabeth Jane Copeland Stanfield have a Daughter, Renna that married a Jim Young.? If so ,Do you have any information on Renna & Jim Young.? Thanks, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > Nedra, > The house you are referring to belonged to my g/g/grandparents, John A. > and > Elizabeth Jane Copeland Stanfield. He died about 1894 and she in 1916. > Their son, James Wallace "Jimbuck" Stanfield lived there until about 1943. > The property and perhaps the house belonged to Josiah Alexander before > John > Stanfield bought same. > > The Callens house was located on the old Patton Ferry Road near where the > Cagles lived if you know where that is. I can give you better directions > if > you can give me another house or two in this community. When I first > remember, about 1943, Ken Ferrell lived in the Callens House. Milton > Davis > fixed it up about the end of the 2nd war and it burned about 1946-48, > somewhere along that time. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <marlingg@att.net> > To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > > >> David, My Uncle, Earl Alexander and his family lived in the Callens >> house behind the cemetary and Baptist >> church for a short time, maybe a year or so. We would go down and spend >> the night , me and siblings. It >> was so interesting to be in the house. It had an upstairs and remember >> the long kitchen, Aunt Catherine >> would cook in. We would go over to the church and cemetary to play. Ha >> Lot of our ancestors were >> sleeping there. Is the house still there? Was it ever restored. >> >> Enjoy your info always, Nedra Alexander >> >> >> -------------- Original message from "David Cagle" >> <dcagle1@charter.net>: -------------- >> >> >>> The Callens family in Hardin County was headed by Thomas who appears to >>> have >>> arrived in Hardin Co., TN about 1834. The 1840 census shows the >>> following: >>> >>> 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN >>> Thomas Callens 213001-010001 >>> Thomas died and was buried in Goshen Cemetery at Swift. >>> 03/06/1802-12/17/1845. His wife Margaret Polk Callens is buried there >>> also. >>> 05/17/1804-01/02/1873. >>> >>> 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN >>> 43 Margaret (Polk) Callens 45 NC 2nd C. D. >>> William M. 22 NC >>> Thomas L. 20 NC >>> Charles P. 18 NC >>> Margaret E. 16 TN >>> Robert H. 14 TN >>> Francis C. 12 TN >>> Mary E. 10 TN >>> Elam R. 7 TN >>> Mitchell C. 5 TN >>> >>> 66 John C. Callens 24 NC 6th C. D. >>> Mary C. 17 TN >>> William T. 1 TN >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo >>> >>> >>> > My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves >>> > around >>> > Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with >>> > whip-snapping >>> > the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family >>> > relatives were famous for.] >>> > >>> > I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, >>> > CO., >>> > MO? >>> > In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of >>> > that >>> > family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from >>> > home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. >>> > >>> > Love to read your childhood stories. >>> > Carolyn >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ************************************** See what's free at >>> > http://www.aol.com. >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: >>> > 7/9/2007 >>> > 5:22 PM >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 >> 4:08 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nedra, The house you are referring to belonged to my g/g/grandparents, John A. and Elizabeth Jane Copeland Stanfield. He died about 1894 and she in 1916. Their son, James Wallace "Jimbuck" Stanfield lived there until about 1943. The property and perhaps the house belonged to Josiah Alexander before John Stanfield bought same. The Callens house was located on the old Patton Ferry Road near where the Cagles lived if you know where that is. I can give you better directions if you can give me another house or two in this community. When I first remember, about 1943, Ken Ferrell lived in the Callens House. Milton Davis fixed it up about the end of the 2nd war and it burned about 1946-48, somewhere along that time. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <marlingg@att.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > David, My Uncle, Earl Alexander and his family lived in the Callens > house behind the cemetary and Baptist > church for a short time, maybe a year or so. We would go down and spend > the night , me and siblings. It > was so interesting to be in the house. It had an upstairs and remember > the long kitchen, Aunt Catherine > would cook in. We would go over to the church and cemetary to play. Ha > Lot of our ancestors were > sleeping there. Is the house still there? Was it ever restored. > > Enjoy your info always, Nedra Alexander > > > -------------- Original message from "David Cagle" > <dcagle1@charter.net>: -------------- > > >> The Callens family in Hardin County was headed by Thomas who appears to >> have >> arrived in Hardin Co., TN about 1834. The 1840 census shows the >> following: >> >> 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN >> Thomas Callens 213001-010001 >> Thomas died and was buried in Goshen Cemetery at Swift. >> 03/06/1802-12/17/1845. His wife Margaret Polk Callens is buried there >> also. >> 05/17/1804-01/02/1873. >> >> 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN >> 43 Margaret (Polk) Callens 45 NC 2nd C. D. >> William M. 22 NC >> Thomas L. 20 NC >> Charles P. 18 NC >> Margaret E. 16 TN >> Robert H. 14 TN >> Francis C. 12 TN >> Mary E. 10 TN >> Elam R. 7 TN >> Mitchell C. 5 TN >> >> 66 John C. Callens 24 NC 6th C. D. >> Mary C. 17 TN >> William T. 1 TN >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo >> >> >> > My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves >> > around >> > Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with >> > whip-snapping >> > the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family >> > relatives were famous for.] >> > >> > I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, >> > CO., >> > MO? >> > In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of >> > that >> > family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from >> > home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. >> > >> > Love to read your childhood stories. >> > Carolyn >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************** See what's free at >> > http://www.aol.com. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: >> > 7/9/2007 >> > 5:22 PM >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 > 4:08 PM > >

David, My Uncle, Earl Alexander and his family lived in the Callens house behind the cemetary and Baptist church for a short time, maybe a year or so. We would go down and spend the night , me and siblings. It was so interesting to be in the house. It had an upstairs and remember the long kitchen, Aunt Catherine would cook in. We would go over to the church and cemetary to play. Ha Lot of our ancestors were sleeping there. Is the house still there? Was it ever restored. Enjoy your info always, Nedra Alexander -------------- Original message from "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net>: -------------- > The Callens family in Hardin County was headed by Thomas who appears to have > arrived in Hardin Co., TN about 1834. The 1840 census shows the following: > > 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN > Thomas Callens 213001-010001 > Thomas died and was buried in Goshen Cemetery at Swift. > 03/06/1802-12/17/1845. His wife Margaret Polk Callens is buried there also. > 05/17/1804-01/02/1873. > > 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN > 43 Margaret (Polk) Callens 45 NC 2nd C. D. > William M. 22 NC > Thomas L. 20 NC > Charles P. 18 NC > Margaret E. 16 TN > Robert H. 14 TN > Francis C. 12 TN > Mary E. 10 TN > Elam R. 7 TN > Mitchell C. 5 TN > > 66 John C. Callens 24 NC 6th C. D. > Mary C. 17 TN > William T. 1 TN > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > > > > My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves around > > Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with > > whip-snapping > > the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family > > relatives were famous for.] > > > > I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, CO., > > MO? > > In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of > > that > > family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from > > home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. > > > > Love to read your childhood stories. > > Carolyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: 7/9/2007 > > 5:22 PM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I know of at least two people who were related to my family, some way or another, that disappeared during the Civil War and were not heard of again until recent times. Both were captured by the Yankees and sent to prison camps in the north. Both died. In one case, the individual was thought to have been killed by bushwhackers and the other was thought to have gone to Texas or somewhere. The internet has provided the means to find these people. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Rheney" <jarheney@verizon.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Skeleton found in Callens Cave >I am writing a book about my ancestors and while I had Polk ancestors in >Hardin Co., TN, I also had Lucas ancestors directly across the river in >Waterloo, Lauderdale Countyi, AL. I couldn't help wondering if the missing >son in the Wm. G. Lucas family could have possibly been the skeleton in the >cave, as no trace of him was ever found. The following is from my book: > > What became of the 12 Lucas children? Those who did not die young, > married and/or scattered to the four winds: > > > > 1. Thomas, the firstborn, would have been 28 years old at the time of > the 1870 census. He was not listed in this census as living in the Lucas > home. He may have married and established a home of his own, or he may > have been killed in the Civil War. No further information is available > about him. A Lucas descendant was told by her mother that one of William > Lucas's sons went off on his horse and was never seen again. The horse > had been tied to a tree near a river, but had chewed its bridle and > returned home. We know what happened to all the other Lucas sons, so it > was probably Thomas that disappeared. > > > > Ann Rheney > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: 7/9/2007 > 5:22 PM > >

I am writing a book about my ancestors and while I had Polk ancestors in Hardin Co., TN, I also had Lucas ancestors directly across the river in Waterloo, Lauderdale Countyi, AL. I couldn't help wondering if the missing son in the Wm. G. Lucas family could have possibly been the skeleton in the cave, as no trace of him was ever found. The following is from my book: What became of the 12 Lucas children? Those who did not die young, married and/or scattered to the four winds: 1. Thomas, the firstborn, would have been 28 years old at the time of the 1870 census. He was not listed in this census as living in the Lucas home. He may have married and established a home of his own, or he may have been killed in the Civil War. No further information is available about him. A Lucas descendant was told by her mother that one of William Lucas's sons went off on his horse and was never seen again. The horse had been tied to a tree near a river, but had chewed its bridle and returned home. We know what happened to all the other Lucas sons, so it was probably Thomas that disappeared. Ann Rheney

Hello David My name is Herb Garner. You mentioned A John F. Garner in your letter. Do you have any info on this Line? I have been doing research on my Garner line that lived in Hardin County >From about the mid 1840's to the late 1860's. My great Great Grandfather was William Marshall Garner. Born abt 1801 in Rutherford County Tn. He died in Gibson Co. in 1874. He was married to Elizabeth (maiden unknown) who was born in 1812, Tn and died in Hardin Co. in 1856. I have no idea who his parents were or who his brothers and sisters were. I have all his children and their families, and his will. Info from Hardin County seems to be scarce. I understand that a lot was lost during the civil War. Anything you might have would be most appreciated. Also if you know of anyone looking for info on his children I have a lot to share. Herb -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Smoke Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:34 AM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo David, I really enjoyed reading your article. Keep them coming, Teresa -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Cagle Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:19 PM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo The Callens Cave At Cerro Gordo I grew up on a one hundered acre farm known as the Cave Tract in the division of the lands of Thomas Lafayette Callens at his death in 1901. This farm was about 50 percent tillable land and pasture and 50 percent wooded. The land was defined by high limestone bluffs overlooking the Tennessee river with a few upland farm tracts between steep hollows which drained the land from the Old Patton Ferry Road to the Tennessee River. There was only one good access to the river at a place which was originally called Green Polk's Landing. The land was best suited for pasture and a few cotton patches. I spent my share of time in those cotton patches and needless to say, used every opportunity available to go hunting along the bluffs or fishing on the river banks. As a youngster, I spent many happy hours along the river and was always intrigued by the mystery and history associated with what was then known as the Callens Cave. I grew up hearing tales of activities associated with the "Ca! ve," some of which may be true and others--I don't know. With several owners over the years, the Cave has now been in possession of a Cagle for the last 63 years. The first family to hold sway over the Cave was that of my g/g/g/grandfather, Charles T. Polk, 1780-1839, who settled the land in these parts about 1824. The first official owner of that land was also part of our family, Cyrus Granville Alexander, 1819-1880, the brother of my g/g/grandfather William Taylor Alexander, 1816-1878. C. G. Alexander is shown as owner of the land by virtue of Entry No. 725 as recorded in Survey Book 3, Page 215, on 24 September 1841, in the Register's office at the Hardin County Courthouse. Entry No. 725 founded on the occupant law of 1840-- One hundred seventy eight and one fourth acres of land surveyed for Cyrus Granville Alexander on the waters of the Tennessee River in Range 14, Section 1, beginning on the bank of the Tennessee River on the southwest corner of Entry No. 801; runs thence East 21 poles; North 35 poles; East 205 poles; South 53 poles; West 8 poles; South 112 poles; and West 115 poles to a cedar on the bank of said river; thence Northwestwardly with same to the point of beginning containing 178.25 acres. Adjacent land owners were: Hanson Grove, John F. Garner, Solomon Hudiberg and William B. Ross. Survey Chain carriers were Green H, Polk and James Courtney, the survey being made on 24 September 1841. The property appears to have been transferred without deed to Green H. Polk, brother-in-law of C. G. Alexander, on 16 July 1849. As we see above, After Alexander, the land came into the possession of Green H. and Ruth Alexander Polk, then going to their daughter Martha and her husband, Thomas Lafayette Callens. When T. L. Callens died, he left most of his land to his 4 youngest children: Irvin, Thomas, Tallmadge and Mammie, one of which got the Cave Tract. However, thinking that the Cave had value, Callens gave his three sons each a one third interest in the Cave. Eventually Tony Blackwelder bought the Cave Tract and in 1943 sold same to my dad. I owned part interest in the land for a while, but, Bobby Cagle now owns the land on which the Cave is situated. Callens Cave is described by "Caves in Tennessee," written by Thomas C. Barr, Jr. and published by The State of Tennessee, Department of Conservation and Commerce, Division of Geology, Nashville Tennessee 1961, as follows: "Callens Cave is the best known cave in Hardin County. The entrance is quite conspicuous and is easily seen from the (Tennessee) river. It is keyhole shaped, 18 feet high and 12 feet wide. A large pile of slab breakdown is in front of the mouth. The passages are developed along three sets of joints that strike north-south, N 60 degrees E, and N 30 degrees E. The main passage, which is 100 feet long, leads to two other small entrances that overlook the river. An additional 200 feet of passage was explored. Average cross-sectional dimensions of the cave are 5 feet by 5 feet. Much of the cave fill has been dug out, possibly to obtain niter." The Cave has a large bat population that over the years has left their droppings on the cave floor, being known as guano which is the Spanish name given to these collected droppings. It is highly prized as fertilizer and is an effective gunpowder ingredient due to its high levels of phosphorus and nitrogen. Guano and Niter (actually Potassium Nitrate which forms on cave walls) together were used in several mixtures as propelling charges in guns and as blasting agents in mining. The first such explosive was black powder, a mixture of potassium nitrate, sulfur, and charcoal. The Cave was an early local source of the ingredients for Gun Powder in this community. It is well know that the Cave was being heavily mined at the beginning of the Civil War. The entrance was 100 to perhaps 200 feet from the edge of the river which gave easy access. Though there is no mention in the "Official Record," it is the opinion of this writer that the gun powder activities at the cave were destroyed at the same time as the capture of the Eastport and the destruction of Jesse Hobbs' mill, this being on February 7, 8 and 9 of 1862. Local evidence would support this, as Civil War bullets and mini-balls were abundant along the water's edge near the cave. Pieces of exploded shells were occasionally found in fields atop the bluffs overlooking the river. And last, a human skeleton was found in the cave along with a Civil War vintage shotgun. When I was growing up, I heard the story told many times, on the porch of Harbour Pitts Company Store, about the Civil War solder an! d his gun. The relic was found by a fisherman named John M. Bradley and purchased from Bradley by one of the Pitts brothers. The gun sat in the corner behind the front door at the store. It was still there a few years ago, but when I ask about same recently, no one seems to know where it has gone. The Cave has always held the fascination of the younger set. Many kids have explored the entrance and some brave soles have used their spelunking skills to search out every nook and cranny. My first complete trip through its crawlways was about 1958, along with a couple of college buddies. There are rooms where a person can walk erect and have room to spare. Most channels required that you stoop to keep from bumping your head, then there were places where you must crawl on your stomach. A person with claustrophobia should not go there. At the very back of the cave there is a huge room with much breakdown form the ceiling which effectively blocks further exploration. There are about a half dozen entrances to the Cave. The main entrance and one located a hundred yards north near the water line of the Tennessee River are easily accessible. A person must crawl to use the other openings. It has been suggested that there is an opening on the opposite side of the ridge from the riv! er. There has been a tale in the community, that is as old as I am, that a hunter's dog chased an animal into the cave and didn't come out. The hunter went in looking for his dog, broke his lantern, and wandered around looking for a way out. Finally finding light from a hole too small to get through, he, or the dog, was able to attract the attention of a neighbor working nearby, who enlisted help and was able to enlarge the hole. I suppose man's best friend was there waiting for him to get out? The Cave has been used in various ways over the years. Undoubtedly the yawning entrance and the overhanging bluff were used by prehistoric peoples for shelter. I have found artifacts near the entrance which would suggest this occupation. In more modern times, the same area has been used as a fishing camp, and as I stated earlier, much of the cave has been mined for the ingredients to make gun powder. The secondary entrance which is now only accessible by boat was once used as a storage place for whiskey. Barrel parts can still be found in this section of the cave. Today, the cave serves mostly as a home for bats. About sundown on most summer days one can see the bats come out in the late evening to catch mosquitoes and other insects. Inside their home, the skeletal remains of the Civil War Soldier are probably beyond reach behind the rock slab breakdown deep in the cave. I was never able to find this Soldier who perhaps died guarding his cave in 1862. Chances are that niter for gunpowder will never be mined there again nor will there be a need for anyone to guard the place. Therefore, I think it is fitting that the Cave should serve as the Old Soldier's final resting place. David Cagle October 2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, I really enjoyed reading your article. Keep them coming, Teresa -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Cagle Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:19 PM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo The Callens Cave At Cerro Gordo I grew up on a one hundered acre farm known as the Cave Tract in the division of the lands of Thomas Lafayette Callens at his death in 1901. This farm was about 50 percent tillable land and pasture and 50 percent wooded. The land was defined by high limestone bluffs overlooking the Tennessee river with a few upland farm tracts between steep hollows which drained the land from the Old Patton Ferry Road to the Tennessee River. There was only one good access to the river at a place which was originally called Green Polk's Landing. The land was best suited for pasture and a few cotton patches. I spent my share of time in those cotton patches and needless to say, used every opportunity available to go hunting along the bluffs or fishing on the river banks. As a youngster, I spent many happy hours along the river and was always intrigued by the mystery and history associated with what was then known as the Callens Cave. I grew up hearing tales of activities associated with the "Ca! ve," some of which may be true and others--I don't know. With several owners over the years, the Cave has now been in possession of a Cagle for the last 63 years. The first family to hold sway over the Cave was that of my g/g/g/grandfather, Charles T. Polk, 1780-1839, who settled the land in these parts about 1824. The first official owner of that land was also part of our family, Cyrus Granville Alexander, 1819-1880, the brother of my g/g/grandfather William Taylor Alexander, 1816-1878. C. G. Alexander is shown as owner of the land by virtue of Entry No. 725 as recorded in Survey Book 3, Page 215, on 24 September 1841, in the Register's office at the Hardin County Courthouse. Entry No. 725 founded on the occupant law of 1840-- One hundred seventy eight and one fourth acres of land surveyed for Cyrus Granville Alexander on the waters of the Tennessee River in Range 14, Section 1, beginning on the bank of the Tennessee River on the southwest corner of Entry No. 801; runs thence East 21 poles; North 35 poles; East 205 poles; South 53 poles; West 8 poles; South 112 poles; and West 115 poles to a cedar on the bank of said river; thence Northwestwardly with same to the point of beginning containing 178.25 acres. Adjacent land owners were: Hanson Grove, John F. Garner, Solomon Hudiberg and William B. Ross. Survey Chain carriers were Green H, Polk and James Courtney, the survey being made on 24 September 1841. The property appears to have been transferred without deed to Green H. Polk, brother-in-law of C. G. Alexander, on 16 July 1849. As we see above, After Alexander, the land came into the possession of Green H. and Ruth Alexander Polk, then going to their daughter Martha and her husband, Thomas Lafayette Callens. When T. L. Callens died, he left most of his land to his 4 youngest children: Irvin, Thomas, Tallmadge and Mammie, one of which got the Cave Tract. However, thinking that the Cave had value, Callens gave his three sons each a one third interest in the Cave. Eventually Tony Blackwelder bought the Cave Tract and in 1943 sold same to my dad. I owned part interest in the land for a while, but, Bobby Cagle now owns the land on which the Cave is situated. Callens Cave is described by "Caves in Tennessee," written by Thomas C. Barr, Jr. and published by The State of Tennessee, Department of Conservation and Commerce, Division of Geology, Nashville Tennessee 1961, as follows: "Callens Cave is the best known cave in Hardin County. The entrance is quite conspicuous and is easily seen from the (Tennessee) river. It is keyhole shaped, 18 feet high and 12 feet wide. A large pile of slab breakdown is in front of the mouth. The passages are developed along three sets of joints that strike north-south, N 60 degrees E, and N 30 degrees E. The main passage, which is 100 feet long, leads to two other small entrances that overlook the river. An additional 200 feet of passage was explored. Average cross-sectional dimensions of the cave are 5 feet by 5 feet. Much of the cave fill has been dug out, possibly to obtain niter." The Cave has a large bat population that over the years has left their droppings on the cave floor, being known as guano which is the Spanish name given to these collected droppings. It is highly prized as fertilizer and is an effective gunpowder ingredient due to its high levels of phosphorus and nitrogen. Guano and Niter (actually Potassium Nitrate which forms on cave walls) together were used in several mixtures as propelling charges in guns and as blasting agents in mining. The first such explosive was black powder, a mixture of potassium nitrate, sulfur, and charcoal. The Cave was an early local source of the ingredients for Gun Powder in this community. It is well know that the Cave was being heavily mined at the beginning of the Civil War. The entrance was 100 to perhaps 200 feet from the edge of the river which gave easy access. Though there is no mention in the "Official Record," it is the opinion of this writer that the gun powder activities at the cave were destroyed at the same time as the capture of the Eastport and the destruction of Jesse Hobbs' mill, this being on February 7, 8 and 9 of 1862. Local evidence would support this, as Civil War bullets and mini-balls were abundant along the water's edge near the cave. Pieces of exploded shells were occasionally found in fields atop the bluffs overlooking the river. And last, a human skeleton was found in the cave along with a Civil War vintage shotgun. When I was growing up, I heard the story told many times, on the porch of Harbour Pitts Company Store, about the Civil War solder an! d his gun. The relic was found by a fisherman named John M. Bradley and purchased from Bradley by one of the Pitts brothers. The gun sat in the corner behind the front door at the store. It was still there a few years ago, but when I ask about same recently, no one seems to know where it has gone. The Cave has always held the fascination of the younger set. Many kids have explored the entrance and some brave soles have used their spelunking skills to search out every nook and cranny. My first complete trip through its crawlways was about 1958, along with a couple of college buddies. There are rooms where a person can walk erect and have room to spare. Most channels required that you stoop to keep from bumping your head, then there were places where you must crawl on your stomach. A person with claustrophobia should not go there. At the very back of the cave there is a huge room with much breakdown form the ceiling which effectively blocks further exploration. There are about a half dozen entrances to the Cave. The main entrance and one located a hundred yards north near the water line of the Tennessee River are easily accessible. A person must crawl to use the other openings. It has been suggested that there is an opening on the opposite side of the ridge from the riv! er. There has been a tale in the community, that is as old as I am, that a hunter's dog chased an animal into the cave and didn't come out. The hunter went in looking for his dog, broke his lantern, and wandered around looking for a way out. Finally finding light from a hole too small to get through, he, or the dog, was able to attract the attention of a neighbor working nearby, who enlisted help and was able to enlarge the hole. I suppose man's best friend was there waiting for him to get out? The Cave has been used in various ways over the years. Undoubtedly the yawning entrance and the overhanging bluff were used by prehistoric peoples for shelter. I have found artifacts near the entrance which would suggest this occupation. In more modern times, the same area has been used as a fishing camp, and as I stated earlier, much of the cave has been mined for the ingredients to make gun powder. The secondary entrance which is now only accessible by boat was once used as a storage place for whiskey. Barrel parts can still be found in this section of the cave. Today, the cave serves mostly as a home for bats. About sundown on most summer days one can see the bats come out in the late evening to catch mosquitoes and other insects. Inside their home, the skeletal remains of the Civil War Soldier are probably beyond reach behind the rock slab breakdown deep in the cave. I was never able to find this Soldier who perhaps died guarding his cave in 1862. Chances are that niter for gunpowder will never be mined there again nor will there be a need for anyone to guard the place. Therefore, I think it is fitting that the Cave should serve as the Old Soldier's final resting place. David Cagle October 2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone can share info about George CRABB born Tn. 1870 but possibly died before 1880 TN ?? Mother was M. Elizabeth HORNE. Thnx. Mary Descendants of George Crabb Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE15 CRABB (WILLIAM PERRY14, JOSEPH13, JOSEPH12, JOSEPH11was born 1870 in Tn., and died Bef. 1880 in Tn ?. More About GEORGE CRABB: Fact 1: living Hardin Co. Tn 1870

The Callens family in Hardin County was headed by Thomas who appears to have arrived in Hardin Co., TN about 1834. The 1840 census shows the following: 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN Thomas Callens 213001-010001 Thomas died and was buried in Goshen Cemetery at Swift. 03/06/1802-12/17/1845. His wife Margaret Polk Callens is buried there also. 05/17/1804-01/02/1873. 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN 43 Margaret (Polk) Callens 45 NC 2nd C. D. William M. 22 NC Thomas L. 20 NC Charles P. 18 NC Margaret E. 16 TN Robert H. 14 TN Francis C. 12 TN Mary E. 10 TN Elam R. 7 TN Mitchell C. 5 TN 66 John C. Callens 24 NC 6th C. D. Mary C. 17 TN William T. 1 TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <CAROLYNSPAST@aol.com> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Callens Cave @ Cerro Gordo > My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves around > Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with > whip-snapping > the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family > relatives were famous for.] > > I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, CO., > MO? > In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of > that > family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from > home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. > > Love to read your childhood stories. > Carolyn > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/893 - Release Date: 7/9/2007 > 5:22 PM > >

My father told of his older brothers hunting Bob Cats in the caves around Cerro Gordo. One of the risky stunts of childhood....along with whip-snapping the heads off snakes...catch a snake by the tail...[our White family relatives were famous for.] I'm wondering if part of the Callens family also moved to Pemiscot, CO., MO? In Steele, MO., my first grade teacher was Mrs. Callens. Relatives of that family visited us in California. It was wonderful to have folks from home....big Sunday dinners...Last saw Mrs. Callens in 1959. Love to read your childhood stories. Carolyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

The Callens Cave At Cerro Gordo I grew up on a one hundered acre farm known as the Cave Tract in the division of the lands of Thomas Lafayette Callens at his death in 1901. This farm was about 50 percent tillable land and pasture and 50 percent wooded. The land was defined by high limestone bluffs overlooking the Tennessee river with a few upland farm tracts between steep hollows which drained the land from the Old Patton Ferry Road to the Tennessee River. There was only one good access to the river at a place which was originally called Green Polk's Landing. The land was best suited for pasture and a few cotton patches. I spent my share of time in those cotton patches and needless to say, used every opportunity available to go hunting along the bluffs or fishing on the river banks. As a youngster, I spent many happy hours along the river and was always intrigued by the mystery and history associated with what was then known as the Callens Cave. I grew up hearing tales of activities associated with the "Cave," some of which may be true and others--I don't know. With several owners over the years, the Cave has now been in possession of a Cagle for the last 63 years. The first family to hold sway over the Cave was that of my g/g/g/grandfather, Charles T. Polk, 1780-1839, who settled the land in these parts about 1824. The first official owner of that land was also part of our family, Cyrus Granville Alexander, 1819-1880, the brother of my g/g/grandfather William Taylor Alexander, 1816-1878. C. G. Alexander is shown as owner of the land by virtue of Entry No. 725 as recorded in Survey Book 3, Page 215, on 24 September 1841, in the Register's office at the Hardin County Courthouse. Entry No. 725 founded on the occupant law of 1840-- One hundred seventy eight and one fourth acres of land surveyed for Cyrus Granville Alexander on the waters of the Tennessee River in Range 14, Section 1, beginning on the bank of the Tennessee River on the southwest corner of Entry No. 801; runs thence East 21 poles; North 35 poles; East 205 poles; South 53 poles; West 8 poles; South 112 poles; and West 115 poles to a cedar on the bank of said river; thence Northwestwardly with same to the point of beginning containing 178.25 acres. Adjacent land owners were: Hanson Grove, John F. Garner, Solomon Hudiberg and William B. Ross. Survey Chain carriers were Green H, Polk and James Courtney, the survey being made on 24 September 1841. The property appears to have been transferred without deed to Green H. Polk, brother-in-law of C. G. Alexander, on 16 July 1849. As we see above, After Alexander, the land came into the possession of Green H. and Ruth Alexander Polk, then going to their daughter Martha and her husband, Thomas Lafayette Callens. When T. L. Callens died, he left most of his land to his 4 youngest children: Irvin, Thomas, Tallmadge and Mammie, one of which got the Cave Tract. However, thinking that the Cave had value, Callens gave his three sons each a one third interest in the Cave. Eventually Tony Blackwelder bought the Cave Tract and in 1943 sold same to my dad. I owned part interest in the land for a while, but, Bobby Cagle now owns the land on which the Cave is situated. Callens Cave is described by "Caves in Tennessee," written by Thomas C. Barr, Jr. and published by The State of Tennessee, Department of Conservation and Commerce, Division of Geology, Nashville Tennessee 1961, as follows: "Callens Cave is the best known cave in Hardin County. The entrance is quite conspicuous and is easily seen from the (Tennessee) river. It is keyhole shaped, 18 feet high and 12 feet wide. A large pile of slab breakdown is in front of the mouth. The passages are developed along three sets of joints that strike north-south, N 60 degrees E, and N 30 degrees E. The main passage, which is 100 feet long, leads to two other small entrances that overlook the river. An additional 200 feet of passage was explored. Average cross-sectional dimensions of the cave are 5 feet by 5 feet. Much of the cave fill has been dug out, possibly to obtain niter." The Cave has a large bat population that over the years has left their droppings on the cave floor, being known as guano which is the Spanish name given to these collected droppings. It is highly prized as fertilizer and is an effective gunpowder ingredient due to its high levels of phosphorus and nitrogen. Guano and Niter (actually Potassium Nitrate which forms on cave walls) together were used in several mixtures as propelling charges in guns and as blasting agents in mining. The first such explosive was black powder, a mixture of potassium nitrate, sulfur, and charcoal. The Cave was an early local source of the ingredients for Gun Powder in this community. It is well know that the Cave was being heavily mined at the beginning of the Civil War. The entrance was 100 to perhaps 200 feet from the edge of the river which gave easy access. Though there is no mention in the "Official Record," it is the opinion of this writer that the gun powder activities at the cave were destroyed at the same time as the capture of the Eastport and the destruction of Jesse Hobbs' mill, this being on February 7, 8 and 9 of 1862. Local evidence would support this, as Civil War bullets and mini-balls were abundant along the water's edge near the cave. Pieces of exploded shells were occasionally found in fields atop the bluffs overlooking the river. And last, a human skeleton was found in the cave along with a Civil War vintage shotgun. When I was growing up, I heard the story told many times, on the porch of Harbour Pitts Company Store, about the Civil War solder and his gun. The relic was found by a fisherman named John M. Bradley and purchased from Bradley by one of the Pitts brothers. The gun sat in the corner behind the front door at the store. It was still there a few years ago, but when I ask about same recently, no one seems to know where it has gone. The Cave has always held the fascination of the younger set. Many kids have explored the entrance and some brave soles have used their spelunking skills to search out every nook and cranny. My first complete trip through its crawlways was about 1958, along with a couple of college buddies. There are rooms where a person can walk erect and have room to spare. Most channels required that you stoop to keep from bumping your head, then there were places where you must crawl on your stomach. A person with claustrophobia should not go there. At the very back of the cave there is a huge room with much breakdown form the ceiling which effectively blocks further exploration. There are about a half dozen entrances to the Cave. The main entrance and one located a hundred yards north near the water line of the Tennessee River are easily accessible. A person must crawl to use the other openings. It has been suggested that there is an opening on the opposite side of the ridge from the river. There has been a tale in the community, that is as old as I am, that a hunter's dog chased an animal into the cave and didn't come out. The hunter went in looking for his dog, broke his lantern, and wandered around looking for a way out. Finally finding light from a hole too small to get through, he, or the dog, was able to attract the attention of a neighbor working nearby, who enlisted help and was able to enlarge the hole. I suppose man's best friend was there waiting for him to get out? The Cave has been used in various ways over the years. Undoubtedly the yawning entrance and the overhanging bluff were used by prehistoric peoples for shelter. I have found artifacts near the entrance which would suggest this occupation. In more modern times, the same area has been used as a fishing camp, and as I stated earlier, much of the cave has been mined for the ingredients to make gun powder. The secondary entrance which is now only accessible by boat was once used as a storage place for whiskey. Barrel parts can still be found in this section of the cave. Today, the cave serves mostly as a home for bats. About sundown on most summer days one can see the bats come out in the late evening to catch mosquitoes and other insects. Inside their home, the skeletal remains of the Civil War Soldier are probably beyond reach behind the rock slab breakdown deep in the cave. I was never able to find this Soldier who perhaps died guarding his cave in 1862. Chances are that niter for gunpowder will never be mined there again nor will there be a need for anyone to guard the place. Therefore, I think it is fitting that the Cave should serve as the Old Soldier's final resting place. David Cagle October 2006

Hello Listers, Does anyone have a copy of the Oct - Dec 1986 issue of the Hardin County Historical Quarterly that would be willing to make a copy of some info please? I am looking for the data on Samuel Jack Thompson and Levi Thompson in the Oct.- Dec. issue. Thanks in advance, Myrna ROBERTS Jorgensen

What happened to Joseph m. CRABB living Prentiss Co. MS 1880 ?? Did he marry and if so, to whom / when ?? Bro of my paternal grand-Father. Descendants of Joseph M. Crabb Generation No. 1 1. JOSEPH M.15 CRABB (WILLIAM PERRY14, JOSEPH13, JOSEPH12, JOSEPH11, was born 1867 in Tn., and died Aft. 1880 in Ms. Notes for JOSEPH M. CRABB: Living Prentiss Co. Ms 1880 with Father, William P CRABB and step-Mother Lucina LIVINGSTON to whom William married Dec 30, 1879 in Prentiss Co. Ms. Did he die after 1880 Prentiss Co. MS ?? More About JOSEPH M. CRABB: Fact 1: living Hardin Co. Tn 1870

George and Ann, I know that William Polk, 1786-1843, was born in Mecklenburg Co., NC, was enumerated in the 1820 census of that county. I know nothing about Pheraby Pearson. That is a name that has been associated with William Polk ever since I started genealogy research about 35 years ago. I have some of Ferguson's works. I might try to see if I can find something there tonight. David WILLIAM POLK Born April 1786, Mecklenburg Co., NC, d. August 1843 Hardin Co., TN, m Pheraby, b. 1796, d. 7 July 1866, Cerro Gordo, Hardin Co., TN., New Harmony Cem. Parents, Captain Charles Polk and Philopena Helms ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pearson" <george3719@yahoo.com> To: "Ann Rheney" <jarheney@verizon.net>; <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > Ann: > > I am the one asking, > my Pearson ancestors was from Perquimans County, NC. > just trying to turn over every rock to see what is under it. > Please send me what you have on Ferby > thanks in advance > George Pearson > george3719@yahoo.com > > Ann Rheney <jarheney@verizon.net> wrote: > Who's asking? I am descended from Ferby Pearson and have some info > regarding her. > Ann Rheney > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > > >>I have no information on this lady. >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.0/886 - Release Date: 7/4/2007 > 1:40 PM > >

Ann: I am the one asking, my Pearson ancestors was from Perquimans County, NC. just trying to turn over every rock to see what is under it. Please send me what you have on Ferby thanks in advance George Pearson george3719@yahoo.com Ann Rheney <jarheney@verizon.net> wrote: Who's asking? I am descended from Ferby Pearson and have some info regarding her. Ann Rheney ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson >I have no information on this lady. > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Joe, William Polk who died in 1843 is buried in the Bailey Cemetery near where US Highway 64 crosses Smith Fork Creek. William H. Polk, son of John and Keziah Polk and the husband of Mary L. "Polly" Cagle, is who is buried at Mount Herman. John Polk owned the farm where Ms. Hadie Shutt use to live on 64 Highway. John Polk was the son of Thomas Polk son of John Polk Jr of Anson Co., NC, son of William Polk of Cabarrus Co. William Polk of Cabarrus was the brother of Capt. Charles Polk, the father of the William Polk first mentioned above. I will try to do this some other way if it is too confusing. David 1850 Census-Hardin County, Tennessee 48 Polk, John 42 1818 SC Keziah 42 1818 SC Catherine 13 1837 William 10 1840 (buried in Bain, now in Mt. Herman Cemetery) Shot by neighbor, Jesse Dobbins. Elias 8 1842 Rebecca 5 1845 America A. 2 1848 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jkbain" <jkbain@comcast.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > David: > > If this is the William Polk buried in the Bain Cemetery - he must have > been > one of the first people buried there. (1843 - William Bain had probably > been > in Hardin County about 13 years as of 1843. William Bain had a gggrandson > named William Harvey Bain (my grandfather). Could William Polk be kinfolk > of > the Bains??? > > Joe Bain > > -----Original Message----- > From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of David Cagle > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:35 PM > To: Ann Rheney; tnhardin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > > Not me asking, but I would like to know. Mt g/g/g/grandfather, Charles T. > Polk, 1780-1839, was a neighbor of William Polk, both in Mecklenburg Co., > NC > > and Hardin Co., TN. > David > > Hardin Co., TN > > Wills, Inventories and Settlements > > Book D: 1842-1848, Pages 94-96 > > > > WILLIAM POLK > > Will dateed: 27 May 1839 > > Heirs: > > Wife- > > Phariby (Pearson?) > > Sons- > > Thomas A. > > Michael Lee > > Charles M. > > George H. > > William Harvey > > Daughters- > > Mary (Benjamin F. Lester) > > Martha > > Cynthia Matilda Bowls (John W. Boals) > > Executors- > > Charles M. Polk > > Daniel Smith > > Slaves- > > Lis Polk > > Smart Polk > > Witnesses- > > Charles M. Polk > > George H. Polk > > William Harvey Polk > > James L. Smith > > Hugh Tarbet > > > > This information copied by David Cagle from "Hardin County Tennessee > Records > > 1820-1860" by Tony Hays, 1985. > > > > Note: > > 1.. William Harvey was listed as William Henry in the court document, > however, discussions with his descendents verify that his name was William > Harvey Polk. > 2.. George Hampton and William Harvey did not have any children at the > time the will was written. > 3.. Smart Polk, the slave, was also mentioned in the will of Capt. > Charles > > Polk. > 4.. William Polk died ca August 1843. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Rheney" <jarheney@verizon.net> > To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > > >> Who's asking? I am descended from Ferby Pearson and have some info >> regarding her. >> Ann Rheney >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <RKing71323@aol.com> >> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson >> >> >>>I have no information on this lady. >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 >> 10:02 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM >

Not me asking, but I would like to know. Mt g/g/g/grandfather, Charles T. Polk, 1780-1839, was a neighbor of William Polk, both in Mecklenburg Co., NC and Hardin Co., TN. David Hardin Co., TN Wills, Inventories and Settlements Book D: 1842-1848, Pages 94-96 WILLIAM POLK Will dateed: 27 May 1839 Heirs: Wife- Phariby (Pearson?) Sons- Thomas A. Michael Lee Charles M. George H. William Harvey Daughters- Mary (Benjamin F. Lester) Martha Cynthia Matilda Bowls (John W. Boals) Executors- Charles M. Polk Daniel Smith Slaves- Lis Polk Smart Polk Witnesses- Charles M. Polk George H. Polk William Harvey Polk James L. Smith Hugh Tarbet This information copied by David Cagle from "Hardin County Tennessee Records 1820-1860" by Tony Hays, 1985. Note: 1.. William Harvey was listed as William Henry in the court document, however, discussions with his descendents verify that his name was William Harvey Polk. 2.. George Hampton and William Harvey did not have any children at the time the will was written. 3.. Smart Polk, the slave, was also mentioned in the will of Capt. Charles Polk. 4.. William Polk died ca August 1843. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Rheney" <jarheney@verizon.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > Who's asking? I am descended from Ferby Pearson and have some info > regarding her. > Ann Rheney > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RKing71323@aol.com> > To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Ferby Pearson > > >>I have no information on this lady. >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM > >