Does anyone have information on David Price? He was born 1815 in Kentucky and married a Sarah. They lived in Hardin County, TN in the 1850 and 1860 Census. David lived in Lauderdale County, AL in 1870 and had remarried to Catherine Franks. Would love any input on this line, Teresa

Dear Deborah, Thanks for your reply. I'm curious about the assertion that this Garner (Sarah Jane's) familly has been researched back to the 1400s. I'm pretty sure they are not part of the Garner-Keene family of Virginia's Northern Neck--I also research what I believe is a part of that family. I believe the Fushee/Foushee etc. Garners belong to the Garner-Keene bunch, but have no proof at hand. My Peter and Sarah Jane Wilson, brother and sister, I believe descend from a German family, distinct from the Garner-Keenes although both were in Moore County, North Carolina. As to the Ream or Reams name, I've tried to be creative with spelling (Reim, Riem, Rheam, and I don't know how many more) and only found one on the census that is even close. That doesn't mean Elizabeth's name was not Ream, but I just can't find anything. I've uploaded direct ancestors' bios to Rootsweb's WorldConnect in database lniemanngba (the first character is lower case L, not the number one). I can't remember exactly what I wrote about John and Elizabeth, but what I could prove and some conjectures are there. Word's formatting is lost as I paste bios into my gen. program, so a different font I used for conjectures doesn't show up, nor do Italics etc. The footnotes are there. The foreword to the book, the index and other info about the book, instead of his bio, is found in the notes of Bennie Fay Garner at that database. Lila > > From: waxhwdpatt@aol.com > Date: 2007/10/17 Wed PM 05:13:47 CDT > To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] (no subject) > > Hi cousin Lila, > > My grandmother, who is still living, gave me the name of Reams for Elizabeth's middle name, first back in the 1980s and later again, when I wasn't sure.? My notes do not say any other information on proof.? I have seen the name on ancestry.com as well, but have only recently (in the last 10 years) been compiling proof for everything I find.? I received John Fushee Garner, the middle name from a Garner researcher, who had Garners back to the 1400s or before, and he had documents that cooborated everything I had...I always ask for proof from researchers, but it doesn't always come back to me...in my computer notes, I do not have this researcher named...it may be in my regular file.? Everything I have, is basically the same as what you say, they lived in Taney Co MO, and moved to AR, I have two areas mentioned.? I have John Fushee Garner born in Moore Co NC. > > I have Peter Garner married to Susan Jackson b. 1808 GA, and the only child I have listed is John Garner, b. 1832, one son listed Elijah Garner...of course I'm sure there are more children, but I received a bit of info years ago, and that is what was in there. > > Thank you for the information! > > Deborah > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LNiemannG@navix.net > To: TNHARDIN@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 1:21 pm > Subject: [TNHARDIN] (no subject) > > > > Dear listers, > > Unfortunately this will start a new thread, because I couldn't reply on the list > due to not being subscribed until today, having > received messages containing the name Garner on my Rootsweb PML. I'm pasting the > thread in which I'm interested below this > reply. > > I search Peter Garner, the brother of Sarah Jane Garner Wilson, whose parents > were John and Elizabeth Garner. Does anyone know > where proof of John's middle name Foushee (various spellings) and the maiden > name Ream/Reams/Reamey etc. for Elizabeth can > be found? > > John and Elizabeth were with their youngest son Jesse in Taney County, Missouri > in 1850. All of that Garner family that I know of > who were in Taney in 1850 had moved to Clark County, Arkansas by 1860. Elizabeth > was in Clark, but John was not, presumably > having died in Taney, during the journey, or in Clark between 1850 and 1860. > Where and when did John die and where is he > buried? I have found no burial place for Elizabeth, but since son Peter and his > wife Susan are buried in Pea Ridge Cemetery at > Alpine in Clark County, and there are many fieldstones containing no engraving > near the other Garner graves, I suspect that's > where she's buried. > > I also search a Charles Garner who was born in Mason County, Kentucky about > 1780, and seek to connect this family to the > Moore County, North Carolina family. > > The Moore county family is at Rootsweb database lniemanng, with notes on my > husband's direct ancestors at lniemanngba. The > Kentucky Garner family is at database lniemanngnebr. > > Lila Niemann Garner > LNiemannG@navix.net > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

First, I am not home where my research material is, and can't cite book and page, but I have some copies from a county history that names the children of Sarah Jane Garner and Elhana Winchester Wilson, in case someone needs that to analyze naming patterns. I will be able to find it when I get home, but I have a lot of stuff "saved" for my return so it might not happen right away. I get home Monday and have already committed Tuesday. Second, yesterday while I was at Polynesian Cultural Center (fabulous) yesterday, my navix mailbox filled up over quota, and a Hardin County list message with subject "Elhana Winchester Wilson" bounced. I'll try to find it in the archives, but if all the naming patterns above have already been covered, I apologize. Lila Niemann Garner > > From: waxhwdpatt@aol.com > Date: 2007/10/17 Wed PM 07:00:57 CDT > To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Elhana Winchester Wilson > > > After re-reading the post from Terry Winchester, I'll elaborate on the Elhana Winchester Wilson.? As a direct descendant, I think I have it correct, but if anyone has any further information, or contradicting info, please lets get it straight now, while we still can!? If you have any proof, let's get it together, so we can prove this line on back to more established lines. > > I noticed in this particular line of mine that the families were naming their children in the order of the time, first daughter was named after the mothers mother, second dau was named after the fathers mother, first son was named after the fathers father, second son was named after the mothers father.? This family followed suit, and I started looking for a Lydia (?) who married a? William Wilson, in the time range to be Elhana's parents.? > > I do NOT have absolute proof of this, but I think his mother is Lydia Winchester, and his father is William R. Wilson.? Elhana Wilson was a millkeeper, and perhaps there is a clue there, he must have trained back East, probably in NC.? There is a William Wilson enumerated in the Hickman Co TN census with some other Wilsons, and this William would be in an age range of an older brother to my Elhana W. Wilson. > > According to information from source: Tony M. Wilson, w_karin@bellsouth.com , (or dot net?), Elhana W. Wilson was b. in Steel Creek, NC and moved with his family to Hardin Co TN before 1820.? Later, he settled in area of Finger TN before 1830.? Then they moved to the area later known as McNairy Station, later becomming the little town of McNairy TN.? He has parents as William R. Wilson and?Elizabeth "Eliza"?Wilson (no maiden name)...(I don't know where he got Elizabeth, because the census clearly shows Lydia, mabye it's a transcription error) > > Elhana's tombstone has an inscription that I like: "Remember me as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I, As I am now, So you must be, Prepare for Death and Follow me. > > Another clue is the Hardin Co TN 1833 enumeration: > Wilson, (?); Wilson, John L., Wilson, Lewis; Wilson, Robert; Wilson, W., next door to: > Winchester, Daniel; Winchester, Daniel, Winchester, Robertson, Winchester, Thomas. > > in the 1840 McNairy Co TN census: > William Wilson listed: 212001, 010001, meaning 2 boys 0-4 years, 1 boy 5-9 years, 2 boys 10-14 years 1 man 30-40 years, 1 daugter 5-9 years, 1 wife 30-40 years. > (If this William Wilson is Elhana W. Wilson's father, then they would be very young parents, since Elhana was born in 1815.)? (I think this one is too young, but might be a candidate for an older brother) > > in the 1830 McNairy Co TN census: > William R. Wilson is listed: 1021001, 0100001: > one son 0-4, 2 sons 10-14, 1 son 15-19, 1 man 40-50, 1 dau 5-9, 1 woman 40-50. > This couple fits the age range I would expect for EWW's parents.? > > in the 1840 McNairy Co TN censu: > William Wilson is listed: 00100001, 10011001: > 1 son 10-14, 1 man 50-60; 1 dau or gdau 0-4, 1 dau 15-19, 1 dau 20-24, 1 woman 50-60. > Two other Wilson, Daniel & George are in age ranges to be sons or relatives. I noted that there is a Daniel Winchester too, similar names keep showing up. > > in the 1850 McNairy Co TN?census: > William R. Wilson is listed: 7th dist: > William R. Wilson, 62, m, farmer, 1000, b. NC > Lydia, 62, b. NC > Washington Wilson, 35, m, farmer, NC (this is Washington very clearly on the census, however, the date fits for my EWW, and the Lydia below fits the age of his first daughter). > Lucinda, 26, f, TN > Lydia, 8, f, TN > Adaline, 5, f, TN > Jessee, 3, m, TN > Louisa, 1, f, TN > same page as : > Andrew Wilson, 60, m, farmer, 450, NC > Parmelia, 59, f, NC > Jane, 30, f, NC > Maxfield, 28, m, farmer,NC > Nancy, 25, f, NC > Parmelia, 25, f, NC > James, 19, m, farmer, NC > Eli, 16, m, farmer, NC > Mary J Black, 7, f, MO > > Found on familyhistory.com: > a William Wilson, b. 1787, in VA, which is where Lydia Winchester and her families are from. > > There is alot on Lydia Winchester on the internet.? Her parents were Elhanan Winchester and Lydia Jewett.? It is documented on up the line from there with siblings of Lydia listed, > > I think it would be good if we could establish more circumstancial proof that this Elhana Winchester Wilson is indeed the son of William R Wilson and Lydia Winchester. > > I believe Elhana Winchester Wilson is on his grave marker, which may be either a transciprtion error (his real name may well be Washington), or someone knew his mothers maiden name and wanted to put it in stone, or they may have just gotten the middle name incorrect.? I'll try to verify that it is indeed on the tomb rock so everyone will know, I should have a picture somewhere... > > Comments, suggestions welcome. > > Deborah > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. 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Following is what I have found in the Hardin Co, TN records and a few additional records on Winchester: 1790 Census, North Carolina William Winchester 2-2-4 Mecklenburg Co. John Cagle 2-3-6 Dugles Winchester 2-3-3 Coleman Winchester 1-0-0 Rockingham Co. John Winchester 1-0-1 John Winchester, Sr. 2-0-1 1800 Census Index, North Carolina Daniel Winchester, Mecklenburg Co. Thomas Winchester Douglas Winchester, Cabarrus Co. Francis Winchester, Burke Co. Coleman Winchester, Rockingham Co. John Winchester 1810 Census Index, North Carolina Daniel Winchester, Mecklenburg Co. Thomas Winchester Thomas Winchester William Winchester David Winchester, Burke Co. David Winchester Douglas Winchester Francis Winchester Coleman Winchester, Rockingham Co. David Winchester John Winchester William Winchester, Guilford 1820 Census, TENNESSEE Daniel Winchester, Maury Co. Joseph Winchester, Maury Co. Joseph Winchester, Maury Co. James Winchester, Sumner Co. Sarah Winchester, Sumner Co. 1820 Census, Hardin Co. TN Douglas Winchester 20001-1101 Thomas Winchester 20001-0101 1830 Census, Hardin Co., TN Thomas Winchester 1002101-110001 Daniel Winchester 121200001-100120001 1833 Tax List, Hardin co., TN Daniel Winchester 440 Daniel Winchester 441 Thomas Winchester 427 Robertson Winchester 428 1836 Tax List, Hardin Co., TN Daniel Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. George Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. Robertson Winchester , 1 wp, 2nd C. D. Thomas Winchester, 78 acres 2nd C. D. William Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. 1837 Tax List, Hardin Co., TN Daniel Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. George Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. Robertson Winchester , 1 wp, 2nd C. D. Russell Winchester, 1 wp, 3rd C. D. Thomas Winchester, 78 acres, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. William Winchester, 1 wp, 2nd C. D. 1840 Census, New Madrid Co., MO John Winchester 00001-0001, Pemiscot Tshp. Thomas Winchester 00001-10001 Isaac Winchester 10011-00001, 3 slaves, Big Prairie Tshp. A B Winchester 120003-02022, Town of New Madrid Daniel Winchester 000001-020001, New Madrid Tshp. Douglas Winchester 001110001-110011 Peter L. Winchester 000001- 1840 Census, Hardin Co. TN William Winchester 21001-10001 2nd C. D. Robertson Winchester 00001-31001 2nd C. D. Thomas Winchester 30001001-01211 2nd C. D. Russell Winchester 10011-020001 3rd C. D. George Winchester 11001-000010001 11th C. D. 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN 8-8 William Winchester 37 NC, 2nd C. D. Malinda 37 NC Jasper 15 TN Emaline 14 TN Newton 11 TN Marion 9 TN George M. 7 TN Mary 6 TN Elvira 4 TN Sarah 2 TN 9-9 Washington Wells, m. Rachel D. Matilda Polk 10-10 John Cagle, my g/g/grandfather, m. Eliza Polk 64-64 Robert(son) Winchester 39 TN, 2nd C. D. Judith (Russell) 35 TN Margaret P. 14 TN Matilda P. 13 TN Mary S. 11 TN Hezekiah Bryant 23 TN Boatman 91-91 Ruth Winchester 60 NC, 2nd C. D. Ben 21 TN Keziah 15 TN 53-53 Russell Winchester SC, 3rd C. D. (no age) Sarah A. NC Elizb. M. 15 TN Narcissa 13 TN Sarah J. 9 TN Rasamus E. 7 TN Margaret 5 TN Williaqm N. 3 TN Ruth T. 1/12 TN 1860 Census, Hardin Co., TN Sarah Winchester 50 Sarah J. 18 Rosana E. 17 Margarett M. 14 William N. 11 Rutha T. 8 Julia A. 6 1870 Census, Hardin Co., TN James M. Winchester 22 TN, 2nd C. D. Mary J. 20 NC John Z. 5/12 TN 1880 Census, Hardin Co., TN Charles Winchester 22 TN TN TN, living in the household of William Spencer 64 TN NC TN EARLY DEEDS Thomas Winchester and Robert Russell, 96.25 acres on Indian Creek, 11 Dec. 1823, book 2, page 25. Daniel Winchester, 200 acres on Indian Creek, 26 Aug 1836, book 2 page 191. Thomas Winchester and Robert Russell, 121.5 acres east of Tennessee River, 27 Jan. 1837, book 2, page 111. Thomas Winchester, 50 acres east of Tennessee River, 27 Feb. 1837, book 2 page 112. Thomas Winchester To Thomas White, book I, page 105. Russell Winchester to Moses S. Glenn, book , page 150. INSOLVENCIES AND REMOVALS (from Tax records), Hardin Co., TN for the years 1841-1859 (Some mentioned for several years). Benjamin Winchester Daniel James John John, Jr. Maden Robertson Russell Thomas William William, Jr. Will of Robert Russell probated and contested by Robert R. Russell and Robertson Winchester, 1 July 1850. Commissioners appointed to lay off a year's support for the widow and children of R. R. Winchester, and a Dower's interest to Sarah Winchester, widow, 4 Oct. 1858. John A. Smith appointed administrator of the estate of Russell Winchester, 5 Mar. 1860. Lebanon Cemetery Frank Winchester 1875-1960 Ora Winchester 1880-1971 Morris Chapel Cemetery J. T. Winchester 07/19/1896-02/03/1917 Shady Grove Cemetery Ella Anderson Winchester 1893-1967 George L. Winchester 1885-1929 Jess Winchester o6/20/1880, -------- Ollie Winchester 06/26/1888-04/08/1963 MARRIAGE RECORDS HARDIN CO., TN Geroge Thompson m. Ellen Winchester, 11 Jan. 1866. J. T. Hamilton m. Sarah Winchester, 17 Apr. 1867. James M. Winchester m. Mary J. West, 13 May 1868. William Winchester m. Susannah Spencer, 14 July 1880. MARRIAGE RECORDS, MECKLENBURG CO., NC Samuel Abbet m. Catherine Winchester, 11 Ded. 1802. William Bradshaw m. Ann Winchester, 8 Aug. 1800, Thomas Winchester, Bondsman. Jason Winchester, bondsman, Washington Fowler m. Sarah Ray, 2 July 1833. William Hudson m. Permelia A. Winchester, 25 Jan. 1842. David Meguirt m. Rebedda Winchester, 12 Nov. 1833. John R. Winchester m. Julia Wolfe, 8 Nov. 1856. Thomas Winchester m. Rachel Finny, 8 Aug. 1800, John Finney, bondsman. Thomas D. Winchester m. Nancy Houston, 1830, William D. Winchester, Bondsman. Thomas D. Winchester m. Elizabeth J. Stitt, 4 Nov. 1846. William Winchester m. Polly Winchester, 2 Mar. 1820. William Winchester m. Marey Woolf, 5 Feb. 1821. >From "Hardin Co. History 1818 to 1930" by Tony Hays: Daniel Winchester served as a private in the North Carolina Line. The Winchester family, there were eight in Daniel's household, had come to Hardin Co. prior to 1830. He bought a good deal of land, but about 1843, he and his family disappeared from Hardin County. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <waxhwdpatt@aol.com> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Elhana Winchester Wilson > > After re-reading the post from Terry Winchester, I'll elaborate on the > Elhana Winchester Wilson.? As a direct descendant, I think I have it > correct, but if anyone has any further information, or contradicting info, > please lets get it straight now, while we still can!? If you have any > proof, let's get it together, so we can prove this line on back to more > established lines. > > I noticed in this particular line of mine that the families were naming > their children in the order of the time, first daughter was named after > the mothers mother, second dau was named after the fathers mother, first > son was named after the fathers father, second son was named after the > mothers father.? This family followed suit, and I started looking for a > Lydia (?) who married a?William Wilson, in the time range to be Elhana's > parents.? > > I do NOT have absolute proof of this, but I think his mother is Lydia > Winchester, and his father is William R. Wilson.? Elhana Wilson was a > millkeeper, and perhaps there is a clue there, he must have trained back > East, probably in NC.? There is a William Wilson enumerated in the Hickman > Co TN census with some other Wilsons, and this William would be in an age > range of an older brother to my Elhana W. Wilson. > > According to information from source: Tony M. Wilson, > w_karin@bellsouth.com , (or dot net?), Elhana W. Wilson was b. in Steel > Creek, NC and moved with his family to Hardin Co TN before 1820.? Later, > he settled in area of Finger TN before 1830.? Then they moved to the area > later known as McNairy Station, later becomming the little town of McNairy > TN.? He has parents as William R. Wilson and?Elizabeth "Eliza"?Wilson (no > maiden name)...(I don't know where he got Elizabeth, because the census > clearly shows Lydia, mabye it's a transcription error) > > Elhana's tombstone has an inscription that I like: "Remember me as you > pass by, as you are now, so once was I, As I am now, So you must be, > Prepare for Death and Follow me. > > Another clue is the Hardin Co TN 1833 enumeration: > Wilson, (?); Wilson, John L., Wilson, Lewis; Wilson, Robert; Wilson, W., > next door to: > Winchester, Daniel; Winchester, Daniel, Winchester, Robertson, Winchester, > Thomas. > > in the 1840 McNairy Co TN census: > William Wilson listed: 212001, 010001, meaning 2 boys 0-4 years, 1 boy 5-9 > years, 2 boys 10-14 years 1 man 30-40 years, 1 daugter 5-9 years, 1 wife > 30-40 years. > (If this William Wilson is Elhana W. Wilson's father, then they would be > very young parents, since Elhana was born in 1815.)? (I think this one is > too young, but might be a candidate for an older brother) > > in the 1830 McNairy Co TN census: > William R. Wilson is listed: 1021001, 0100001: > one son 0-4, 2 sons 10-14, 1 son 15-19, 1 man 40-50, 1 dau 5-9, 1 woman > 40-50. > This couple fits the age range I would expect for EWW's parents.? > > in the 1840 McNairy Co TN censu: > William Wilson is listed: 00100001, 10011001: > 1 son 10-14, 1 man 50-60; 1 dau or gdau 0-4, 1 dau 15-19, 1 dau 20-24, 1 > woman 50-60. > Two other Wilson, Daniel & George are in age ranges to be sons or > relatives. I noted that there is a Daniel Winchester too, similar names > keep showing up. > > in the 1850 McNairy Co TN?census: > William R. Wilson is listed: 7th dist: > William R. Wilson, 62, m, farmer, 1000, b. NC > Lydia, 62, b. NC > Washington Wilson, 35, m, farmer, NC (this is Washington very clearly on > the census, however, the date fits for my EWW, and the Lydia below fits > the age of his first daughter). > Lucinda, 26, f, TN > Lydia, 8, f, TN > Adaline, 5, f, TN > Jessee, 3, m, TN > Louisa, 1, f, TN > same page as : > Andrew Wilson, 60, m, farmer, 450, NC > Parmelia, 59, f, NC > Jane, 30, f, NC > Maxfield, 28, m, farmer,NC > Nancy, 25, f, NC > Parmelia, 25, f, NC > James, 19, m, farmer, NC > Eli, 16, m, farmer, NC > Mary J Black, 7, f, MO > > Found on familyhistory.com: > a William Wilson, b. 1787, in VA, which is where Lydia Winchester and her > families are from. > > There is alot on Lydia Winchester on the internet.? Her parents were > Elhanan Winchester and Lydia Jewett.? It is documented on up the line from > there with siblings of Lydia listed, > > I think it would be good if we could establish more circumstancial proof > that this Elhana Winchester Wilson is indeed the son of William R Wilson > and Lydia Winchester. > > I believe Elhana Winchester Wilson is on his grave marker, which may be > either a transciprtion error (his real name may well be Washington), or > someone knew his mothers maiden name and wanted to put it in stone, or > they may have just gotten the middle name incorrect.? I'll try to verify > that it is indeed on the tomb rock so everyone will know, I should have a > picture somewhere... > > Comments, suggestions welcome. > > Deborah > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. 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Hi Ed, Yes, this is the John D. Owens/Owen/Oen and Polly V./Nancy/Mary "Nan" that is from my Owens line.? I'm finding that the "S" was added, but I have absolutely no idea why it got changed to Oen for the cemetery marker.? I think it might be Oen in one of the censuses but I can't remember which one.? I checked, and up to 1880, it was spelled Owens.? In the 1900 census, the spelling change is apparent, and it looks like one of the sons takes up the new spelling as well, but is this just a census glitch?? I haven't done enought research to know. Deborah -----Original Message----- From: Ed Adams <eadams2784@united.net> To: TNHARDIN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 7:31 am Subject: [TNHARDIN] Owen, Hill, Sloan Families There is a J. D. Oen born 1833 and died 12/23/1912 and a Pollie V. Oen born 1837 buried in the Lebanon Cemetery, located on 69 Hwy. between Milledgeville and Saltillo. Could this be another spelling of the name Owens? ----------------------- Ed Adams See My Home Page at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adams1895 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

After re-reading the post from Terry Winchester, I'll elaborate on the Elhana Winchester Wilson.? As a direct descendant, I think I have it correct, but if anyone has any further information, or contradicting info, please lets get it straight now, while we still can!? If you have any proof, let's get it together, so we can prove this line on back to more established lines. I noticed in this particular line of mine that the families were naming their children in the order of the time, first daughter was named after the mothers mother, second dau was named after the fathers mother, first son was named after the fathers father, second son was named after the mothers father.? This family followed suit, and I started looking for a Lydia (?) who married a?William Wilson, in the time range to be Elhana's parents.? I do NOT have absolute proof of this, but I think his mother is Lydia Winchester, and his father is William R. Wilson.? Elhana Wilson was a millkeeper, and perhaps there is a clue there, he must have trained back East, probably in NC.? There is a William Wilson enumerated in the Hickman Co TN census with some other Wilsons, and this William would be in an age range of an older brother to my Elhana W. Wilson. According to information from source: Tony M. Wilson, w_karin@bellsouth.com , (or dot net?), Elhana W. Wilson was b. in Steel Creek, NC and moved with his family to Hardin Co TN before 1820.? Later, he settled in area of Finger TN before 1830.? Then they moved to the area later known as McNairy Station, later becomming the little town of McNairy TN.? He has parents as William R. Wilson and?Elizabeth "Eliza"?Wilson (no maiden name)...(I don't know where he got Elizabeth, because the census clearly shows Lydia, mabye it's a transcription error) Elhana's tombstone has an inscription that I like: "Remember me as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I, As I am now, So you must be, Prepare for Death and Follow me. Another clue is the Hardin Co TN 1833 enumeration: Wilson, (?); Wilson, John L., Wilson, Lewis; Wilson, Robert; Wilson, W., next door to: Winchester, Daniel; Winchester, Daniel, Winchester, Robertson, Winchester, Thomas. in the 1840 McNairy Co TN census: William Wilson listed: 212001, 010001, meaning 2 boys 0-4 years, 1 boy 5-9 years, 2 boys 10-14 years 1 man 30-40 years, 1 daugter 5-9 years, 1 wife 30-40 years. (If this William Wilson is Elhana W. Wilson's father, then they would be very young parents, since Elhana was born in 1815.)? (I think this one is too young, but might be a candidate for an older brother) in the 1830 McNairy Co TN census: William R. Wilson is listed: 1021001, 0100001: one son 0-4, 2 sons 10-14, 1 son 15-19, 1 man 40-50, 1 dau 5-9, 1 woman 40-50. This couple fits the age range I would expect for EWW's parents.? in the 1840 McNairy Co TN censu: William Wilson is listed: 00100001, 10011001: 1 son 10-14, 1 man 50-60; 1 dau or gdau 0-4, 1 dau 15-19, 1 dau 20-24, 1 woman 50-60. Two other Wilson, Daniel & George are in age ranges to be sons or relatives. I noted that there is a Daniel Winchester too, similar names keep showing up. in the 1850 McNairy Co TN?census: William R. Wilson is listed: 7th dist: William R. Wilson, 62, m, farmer, 1000, b. NC Lydia, 62, b. NC Washington Wilson, 35, m, farmer, NC (this is Washington very clearly on the census, however, the date fits for my EWW, and the Lydia below fits the age of his first daughter). Lucinda, 26, f, TN Lydia, 8, f, TN Adaline, 5, f, TN Jessee, 3, m, TN Louisa, 1, f, TN same page as : Andrew Wilson, 60, m, farmer, 450, NC Parmelia, 59, f, NC Jane, 30, f, NC Maxfield, 28, m, farmer,NC Nancy, 25, f, NC Parmelia, 25, f, NC James, 19, m, farmer, NC Eli, 16, m, farmer, NC Mary J Black, 7, f, MO Found on familyhistory.com: a William Wilson, b. 1787, in VA, which is where Lydia Winchester and her families are from. There is alot on Lydia Winchester on the internet.? Her parents were Elhanan Winchester and Lydia Jewett.? It is documented on up the line from there with siblings of Lydia listed, I think it would be good if we could establish more circumstancial proof that this Elhana Winchester Wilson is indeed the son of William R Wilson and Lydia Winchester. I believe Elhana Winchester Wilson is on his grave marker, which may be either a transciprtion error (his real name may well be Washington), or someone knew his mothers maiden name and wanted to put it in stone, or they may have just gotten the middle name incorrect.? I'll try to verify that it is indeed on the tomb rock so everyone will know, I should have a picture somewhere... Comments, suggestions welcome. Deborah ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi cousin Lila, My grandmother, who is still living, gave me the name of Reams for Elizabeth's middle name, first back in the 1980s and later again, when I wasn't sure.? My notes do not say any other information on proof.? I have seen the name on ancestry.com as well, but have only recently (in the last 10 years) been compiling proof for everything I find.? I received John Fushee Garner, the middle name from a Garner researcher, who had Garners back to the 1400s or before, and he had documents that cooborated everything I had...I always ask for proof from researchers, but it doesn't always come back to me...in my computer notes, I do not have this researcher named...it may be in my regular file.? Everything I have, is basically the same as what you say, they lived in Taney Co MO, and moved to AR, I have two areas mentioned.? I have John Fushee Garner born in Moore Co NC. I have Peter Garner married to Susan Jackson b. 1808 GA, and the only child I have listed is John Garner, b. 1832, one son listed Elijah Garner...of course I'm sure there are more children, but I received a bit of info years ago, and that is what was in there. Thank you for the information! Deborah -----Original Message----- From: LNiemannG@navix.net To: TNHARDIN@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 1:21 pm Subject: [TNHARDIN] (no subject) Dear listers, Unfortunately this will start a new thread, because I couldn't reply on the list due to not being subscribed until today, having received messages containing the name Garner on my Rootsweb PML. I'm pasting the thread in which I'm interested below this reply. I search Peter Garner, the brother of Sarah Jane Garner Wilson, whose parents were John and Elizabeth Garner. Does anyone know where proof of John's middle name Foushee (various spellings) and the maiden name Ream/Reams/Reamey etc. for Elizabeth can be found? John and Elizabeth were with their youngest son Jesse in Taney County, Missouri in 1850. All of that Garner family that I know of who were in Taney in 1850 had moved to Clark County, Arkansas by 1860. Elizabeth was in Clark, but John was not, presumably having died in Taney, during the journey, or in Clark between 1850 and 1860. Where and when did John die and where is he buried? I have found no burial place for Elizabeth, but since son Peter and his wife Susan are buried in Pea Ridge Cemetery at Alpine in Clark County, and there are many fieldstones containing no engraving near the other Garner graves, I suspect that's where she's buried. I also search a Charles Garner who was born in Mason County, Kentucky about 1780, and seek to connect this family to the Moore County, North Carolina family. The Moore county family is at Rootsweb database lniemanng, with notes on my husband's direct ancestors at lniemanngba. The Kentucky Garner family is at database lniemanngnebr. Lila Niemann Garner LNiemannG@navix.net ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

okay, this is a quick reply just to say that there could be some Winchester-Dodge lineage, as there was a Lydia Dodge who married a Richard Winchester. This is in no way to suggest that these two Lydias are the same; just to get this started. Will post back later with more, Terry Winchester 2 i. Lydia2 Dodge was born May 18, 1758. She married Richard Winchester in Norwich, CT, November 17, 1778. Richard was born in Canterbury, CT February 15, 1755. He was the son of Andrew Winchester and Joanna Williams. Richard died October 14, 1842 in Hardin County, KY, at 87 years of age. waxhwdpatt@aol.com wrote: After re-reading the post from Terry Winchester, I'll elaborate on the Elhana Winchester Wilson.? As a direct descendant, I think I have it correct, but if anyone has any further information, or contradicting info, please lets get it straight now, while we still can!? If you have any proof, let's get it together, so we can prove this line on back to more established lines. I noticed in this particular line of mine that the families were naming their children in the order of the time, first daughter was named after the mothers mother, second dau was named after the fathers mother, first son was named after the fathers father, second son was named after the mothers father.? This family followed suit, and I started looking for a Lydia (?) who married a?William Wilson, in the time range to be Elhana's parents.? I do NOT have absolute proof of this, but I think his mother is Lydia Winchester, and his father is William R. Wilson.? Elhana Wilson was a millkeeper, and perhaps there is a clue there, he must have trained back East, probably in NC.? There is a William Wilson enumerated in the Hickman Co TN census with some other Wilsons, and this William would be in an age range of an older brother to my Elhana W. Wilson. According to information from source: Tony M. Wilson, w_karin@bellsouth.com , (or dot net?), Elhana W. Wilson was b. in Steel Creek, NC and moved with his family to Hardin Co TN before 1820.? Later, he settled in area of Finger TN before 1830.? Then they moved to the area later known as McNairy Station, later becomming the little town of McNairy TN.? He has parents as William R. Wilson and?Elizabeth "Eliza"?Wilson (no maiden name)...(I don't know where he got Elizabeth, because the census clearly shows Lydia, mabye it's a transcription error) Elhana's tombstone has an inscription that I like: "Remember me as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I, As I am now, So you must be, Prepare for Death and Follow me. Another clue is the Hardin Co TN 1833 enumeration: Wilson, (?); Wilson, John L., Wilson, Lewis; Wilson, Robert; Wilson, W., next door to: Winchester, Daniel; Winchester, Daniel, Winchester, Robertson, Winchester, Thomas. in the 1840 McNairy Co TN census: William Wilson listed: 212001, 010001, meaning 2 boys 0-4 years, 1 boy 5-9 years, 2 boys 10-14 years 1 man 30-40 years, 1 daugter 5-9 years, 1 wife 30-40 years. (If this William Wilson is Elhana W. Wilson's father, then they would be very young parents, since Elhana was born in 1815.)? (I think this one is too young, but might be a candidate for an older brother) in the 1830 McNairy Co TN census: William R. Wilson is listed: 1021001, 0100001: one son 0-4, 2 sons 10-14, 1 son 15-19, 1 man 40-50, 1 dau 5-9, 1 woman 40-50. This couple fits the age range I would expect for EWW's parents.? in the 1840 McNairy Co TN censu: William Wilson is listed: 00100001, 10011001: 1 son 10-14, 1 man 50-60; 1 dau or gdau 0-4, 1 dau 15-19, 1 dau 20-24, 1 woman 50-60. Two other Wilson, Daniel & George are in age ranges to be sons or relatives. I noted that there is a Daniel Winchester too, similar names keep showing up. in the 1850 McNairy Co TN?census: William R. Wilson is listed: 7th dist: William R. Wilson, 62, m, farmer, 1000, b. NC Lydia, 62, b. NC Washington Wilson, 35, m, farmer, NC (this is Washington very clearly on the census, however, the date fits for my EWW, and the Lydia below fits the age of his first daughter). Lucinda, 26, f, TN Lydia, 8, f, TN Adaline, 5, f, TN Jessee, 3, m, TN Louisa, 1, f, TN same page as : Andrew Wilson, 60, m, farmer, 450, NC Parmelia, 59, f, NC Jane, 30, f, NC Maxfield, 28, m, farmer,NC Nancy, 25, f, NC Parmelia, 25, f, NC James, 19, m, farmer, NC Eli, 16, m, farmer, NC Mary J Black, 7, f, MO Found on familyhistory.com: a William Wilson, b. 1787, in VA, which is where Lydia Winchester and her families are from. There is alot on Lydia Winchester on the internet.? Her parents were Elhanan Winchester and Lydia Jewett.? It is documented on up the line from there with siblings of Lydia listed, I think it would be good if we could establish more circumstancial proof that this Elhana Winchester Wilson is indeed the son of William R Wilson and Lydia Winchester. I believe Elhana Winchester Wilson is on his grave marker, which may be either a transciprtion error (his real name may well be Washington), or someone knew his mothers maiden name and wanted to put it in stone, or they may have just gotten the middle name incorrect.? I'll try to verify that it is indeed on the tomb rock so everyone will know, I should have a picture somewhere... Comments, suggestions welcome. Deborah ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Looking for information on Della Tilthe Wigginton who married Louis Spears 1895 in Hardin Co. TN. Does anyone know who Della's father and mother was? I am very interesting in hearing that she was Native American, my grandfather always said we are Native American, but everyone I have had contact with says Wigginton is a English name. Dottie <dndeshazier@yahoo.com> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Dear listers, Unfortunately this will start a new thread, because I couldn't reply on the list due to not being subscribed until today, having received messages containing the name Garner on my Rootsweb PML. I'm pasting the thread in which I'm interested below this reply. I search Peter Garner, the brother of Sarah Jane Garner Wilson, whose parents were John and Elizabeth Garner. Does anyone know where proof of John's middle name Foushee (various spellings) and the maiden name Ream/Reams/Reamey etc. for Elizabeth can be found? John and Elizabeth were with their youngest son Jesse in Taney County, Missouri in 1850. All of that Garner family that I know of who were in Taney in 1850 had moved to Clark County, Arkansas by 1860. Elizabeth was in Clark, but John was not, presumably having died in Taney, during the journey, or in Clark between 1850 and 1860. Where and when did John die and where is he buried? I have found no burial place for Elizabeth, but since son Peter and his wife Susan are buried in Pea Ridge Cemetery at Alpine in Clark County, and there are many fieldstones containing no engraving near the other Garner graves, I suspect that's where she's buried. I also search a Charles Garner who was born in Mason County, Kentucky about 1780, and seek to connect this family to the Moore County, North Carolina family. The Moore county family is at Rootsweb database lniemanng, with notes on my husband's direct ancestors at lniemanngba. The Kentucky Garner family is at database lniemanngnebr. Lila Niemann Garner LNiemannG@navix.net From: Terry Winchester <tacticaltal@yahoo.com> Date: 2007/10/16 Tue PM 01:27:34 CDT To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Fwd: Owens, Hill, Sloan Families Herb, I'm sorry, I don't. The one Garner I have was in Union County, IL in 1873. I havn't any research on that family as they were not connected to my Winchesters. Julia McIntire married a Garner before marrying a Winchester. Herb Kast <Herb333@comcast.net> wrote: Terry Do you have anything on a William or William Marshall Garner born abt 1801 in Rutherford County, Tn? He was married to an Elizabeth and moved to Hardin County in the late 1830's. Herb -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Winchester Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:22 PM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Fwd: Owens, Hill, Sloan Families The WINCHESTER name is of interest to me. The only GARNER-WINCHESTER connection I have is a Julia McIntire married William Garner in Union County, IL in 1872, and thereafter married my Thomas Winchester and moved to Arkansas. I have Winchesters in Hardin and Henderson counties. If you have any further on the middle name of Elhana Winchester Wilson, I'd appreciate it. Terry Winchester Evansville, IN waxhwdpatt@aol.com wrote: ?a BIG thank you to all the comments on these 3 lines, and Garners included.? I descend from Garners as well...through Sarah Jane Garner, b. 3 Mar 1816 in NC, died 8 Feb 1905 Refuge Cem, McNairy Co TN.? She was the daughter of John Fushee Garner born about 1787 in Moore Co NC and mother Elizabeth Reams.? Sarah Garner married Elhana Winchester Wilson and they lived many of their years in McNairy Co TN.?? From family stories from my grandmother, known to many as Aunt Lou, who is still alive and living in Henderson TN, they had a fire, and lost most of their possessions... Back to Owens, Hill. Recap:? 1830 Hardin Co TN census Daniel Owen & Thomas Owen are listed. (Daniel is about 25 years old). Thomas has 2 sons listed 10-14 years of age. (unknown?) Thomas has 1 son listed 15-19 years of age, and I think this is Thomas J. Thomas has 1 son listed 20-24 years old (David I think) The two other sons I have for Thomas are Thomas J. and William H., can anyone match them to the census record above as far as age wise?? 1840 Hardin Co TN census: David Owen has one son listed 0-4 years old, and himself. Also, 1 dau 0-4 along with his wife. Thomas J shows himself age 20-29,?but no children listed in the age range of John D. Owen who would be about 7 years old.? It looks like he is taking care of his mother and 2?young sisters. (Sarah Ann and Caroline? Do the ages fit?) David Owen is listed in the 1840 census of Hardin Co, 100001-10001, which is 1 son between 0-4, himself at age 30-39, one daughter age 0-4, and a wife 20-29.? Again, no son is listed in the correct age line of my John D. Owen(s) who would be age 7. Daniel Owen is listed?his children, and they are all accounted?(known) and there is no son listed in John D. Owen's age range. If anyone has any documents on wills, land deeds, etc. that might?mention?other Owen(s) that might fit with my John D. Owen, please let me know, and I will try to see if any other information fits. If anyone has any comments about the above, please let me know.??At least I know that John D. Owen doesn't belong to?this family as far as I can tell?AT THE PRESENT TIME.? I'm sure he is some relative,?so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!! Deborah??

Herb, I'm sorry, I don't. The one Garner I have was in Union County, IL in 1873. I havn't any research on that family as they were not connected to my Winchesters. Julia McIntire married a Garner before marrying a Winchester. Herb Kast <Herb333@comcast.net> wrote: Terry Do you have anything on a William or William Marshall Garner born abt 1801 in Rutherford County, Tn? He was married to an Elizabeth and moved to Hardin County in the late 1830's. Herb -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Winchester Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:22 PM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Fwd: Owens, Hill, Sloan Families The WINCHESTER name is of interest to me. The only GARNER-WINCHESTER connection I have is a Julia McIntire married William Garner in Union County, IL in 1872, and thereafter married my Thomas Winchester and moved to Arkansas. I have Winchesters in Hardin and Henderson counties. If you have any further on the middle name of Elhana Winchester Wilson, I'd appreciate it. Terry Winchester Evansville, IN waxhwdpatt@aol.com wrote: ?a BIG thank you to all the comments on these 3 lines, and Garners included.? I descend from Garners as well...through Sarah Jane Garner, b. 3 Mar 1816 in NC, died 8 Feb 1905 Refuge Cem, McNairy Co TN.? She was the daughter of John Fushee Garner born about 1787 in Moore Co NC and mother Elizabeth Reams.? Sarah Garner married Elhana Winchester Wilson and they lived many of their years in McNairy Co TN.?? From family stories from my grandmother, known to many as Aunt Lou, who is still alive and living in Henderson TN, they had a fire, and lost most of their possessions... Back to Owens, Hill. Recap:? 1830 Hardin Co TN census Daniel Owen & Thomas Owen are listed. (Daniel is about 25 years old). Thomas has 2 sons listed 10-14 years of age. (unknown?) Thomas has 1 son listed 15-19 years of age, and I think this is Thomas J. Thomas has 1 son listed 20-24 years old (David I think) The two other sons I have for Thomas are Thomas J. and William H., can anyone match them to the census record above as far as age wise?? 1840 Hardin Co TN census: David Owen has one son listed 0-4 years old, and himself. Also, 1 dau 0-4 along with his wife. Thomas J shows himself age 20-29,?but no children listed in the age range of John D. Owen who would be about 7 years old.? It looks like he is taking care of his mother and 2?young sisters. (Sarah Ann and Caroline? Do the ages fit?) David Owen is listed in the 1840 census of Hardin Co, 100001-10001, which is 1 son between 0-4, himself at age 30-39, one daughter age 0-4, and a wife 20-29.? Again, no son is listed in the correct age line of my John D. Owen(s) who would be age 7. Daniel Owen is listed?his children, and they are all accounted?(known) and there is no son listed in John D. Owen's age range. If anyone has any documents on wills, land deeds, etc. that might?mention?other Owen(s) that might fit with my John D. Owen, please let me know, and I will try to see if any other information fits. If anyone has any comments about the above, please let me know.??At least I know that John D. Owen doesn't belong to?this family as far as I can tell?AT THE PRESENT TIME.? I'm sure he is some relative,?so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!! Deborah?? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Terry Do you have anything on a William or William Marshall Garner born abt 1801 in Rutherford County, Tn? He was married to an Elizabeth and moved to Hardin County in the late 1830's. Herb -----Original Message----- From: tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tnhardin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Winchester Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:22 PM To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Fwd: Owens, Hill, Sloan Families The WINCHESTER name is of interest to me. The only GARNER-WINCHESTER connection I have is a Julia McIntire married William Garner in Union County, IL in 1872, and thereafter married my Thomas Winchester and moved to Arkansas. I have Winchesters in Hardin and Henderson counties. If you have any further on the middle name of Elhana Winchester Wilson, I'd appreciate it. Terry Winchester Evansville, IN waxhwdpatt@aol.com wrote: ?a BIG thank you to all the comments on these 3 lines, and Garners included.? I descend from Garners as well...through Sarah Jane Garner, b. 3 Mar 1816 in NC, died 8 Feb 1905 Refuge Cem, McNairy Co TN.? She was the daughter of John Fushee Garner born about 1787 in Moore Co NC and mother Elizabeth Reams.? Sarah Garner married Elhana Winchester Wilson and they lived many of their years in McNairy Co TN.?? From family stories from my grandmother, known to many as Aunt Lou, who is still alive and living in Henderson TN, they had a fire, and lost most of their possessions... Back to Owens, Hill. Recap:? 1830 Hardin Co TN census Daniel Owen & Thomas Owen are listed. (Daniel is about 25 years old). Thomas has 2 sons listed 10-14 years of age. (unknown?) Thomas has 1 son listed 15-19 years of age, and I think this is Thomas J. Thomas has 1 son listed 20-24 years old (David I think) The two other sons I have for Thomas are Thomas J. and William H., can anyone match them to the census record above as far as age wise?? 1840 Hardin Co TN census: David Owen has one son listed 0-4 years old, and himself. Also, 1 dau 0-4 along with his wife. Thomas J shows himself age 20-29,?but no children listed in the age range of John D. Owen who would be about 7 years old.? It looks like he is taking care of his mother and 2?young sisters. (Sarah Ann and Caroline? Do the ages fit?) David Owen is listed in the 1840 census of Hardin Co, 100001-10001, which is 1 son between 0-4, himself at age 30-39, one daughter age 0-4, and a wife 20-29.? Again, no son is listed in the correct age line of my John D. Owen(s) who would be age 7. Daniel Owen is listed?his children, and they are all accounted?(known) and there is no son listed in John D. Owen's age range. If anyone has any documents on wills, land deeds, etc. that might?mention?other Owen(s) that might fit with my John D. Owen, please let me know, and I will try to see if any other information fits. If anyone has any comments about the above, please let me know.??At least I know that John D. Owen doesn't belong to?this family as far as I can tell?AT THE PRESENT TIME.? I'm sure he is some relative,?so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!! Deborah?? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a J. D. Oen born 1833 and died 12/23/1912 and a Pollie V. Oen born 1837 buried in the Lebanon Cemetery, located on 69 Hwy. between Milledgeville and Saltillo. Could this be another spelling of the name Owens? ----------------------- Ed Adams See My Home Page at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adams1895

The WINCHESTER name is of interest to me. The only GARNER-WINCHESTER connection I have is a Julia McIntire married William Garner in Union County, IL in 1872, and thereafter married my Thomas Winchester and moved to Arkansas. I have Winchesters in Hardin and Henderson counties. If you have any further on the middle name of Elhana Winchester Wilson, I'd appreciate it. Terry Winchester Evansville, IN waxhwdpatt@aol.com wrote: ?a BIG thank you to all the comments on these 3 lines, and Garners included.? I descend from Garners as well...through Sarah Jane Garner, b. 3 Mar 1816 in NC, died 8 Feb 1905 Refuge Cem, McNairy Co TN.? She was the daughter of John Fushee Garner born about 1787 in Moore Co NC and mother Elizabeth Reams.? Sarah Garner married Elhana Winchester Wilson and they lived many of their years in McNairy Co TN.?? From family stories from my grandmother, known to many as Aunt Lou, who is still alive and living in Henderson TN, they had a fire, and lost most of their possessions... Back to Owens, Hill. Recap:? 1830 Hardin Co TN census Daniel Owen & Thomas Owen are listed. (Daniel is about 25 years old). Thomas has 2 sons listed 10-14 years of age. (unknown?) Thomas has 1 son listed 15-19 years of age, and I think this is Thomas J. Thomas has 1 son listed 20-24 years old (David I think) The two other sons I have for Thomas are Thomas J. and William H., can anyone match them to the census record above as far as age wise?? 1840 Hardin Co TN census: David Owen has one son listed 0-4 years old, and himself. Also, 1 dau 0-4 along with his wife. Thomas J shows himself age 20-29,?but no children listed in the age range of John D. Owen who would be about 7 years old.? It looks like he is taking care of his mother and 2?young sisters. (Sarah Ann and Caroline? Do the ages fit?) David Owen is listed in the 1840 census of Hardin Co, 100001-10001, which is 1 son between 0-4, himself at age 30-39, one daughter age 0-4, and a wife 20-29.? Again, no son is listed in the correct age line of my John D. Owen(s) who would be age 7. Daniel Owen is listed?his children, and they are all accounted?(known) and there is no son listed in John D. Owen's age range. If anyone has any documents on wills, land deeds, etc. that might?mention?other Owen(s) that might fit with my John D. Owen, please let me know, and I will try to see if any other information fits. If anyone has any comments about the above, please let me know.??At least I know that John D. Owen doesn't belong to?this family as far as I can tell?AT THE PRESENT TIME.? I'm sure he is some relative,?so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!! Deborah?? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

?a BIG thank you to all the comments on these 3 lines, and Garners included.? I descend from Garners as well...through Sarah Jane Garner, b. 3 Mar 1816 in NC, died 8 Feb 1905 Refuge Cem, McNairy Co TN.? She was the daughter of John Fushee Garner born about 1787 in Moore Co NC and mother Elizabeth Reams.? Sarah Garner married Elhana Winchester Wilson and they lived many of their years in McNairy Co TN.?? From family stories from my grandmother, known to many as Aunt Lou, who is still alive and living in Henderson TN, they had a fire, and lost most of their possessions... Back to Owens, Hill. Recap:? 1830 Hardin Co TN census Daniel Owen & Thomas Owen are listed. (Daniel is about 25 years old). Thomas has 2 sons listed 10-14 years of age. (unknown?) Thomas has 1 son listed 15-19 years of age, and I think this is Thomas J. Thomas has 1 son listed 20-24 years old (David I think) The two other sons I have for Thomas are Thomas J. and William H., can anyone match them to the census record above as far as age wise?? 1840 Hardin Co TN census: David Owen has one son listed 0-4 years old, and himself. Also, 1 dau 0-4 along with his wife. Thomas J shows himself age 20-29,?but no children listed in the age range of John D. Owen who would be about 7 years old.? It looks like he is taking care of his mother and 2?young sisters. (Sarah Ann and Caroline? Do the ages fit?) David Owen is listed in the 1840 census of Hardin Co, 100001-10001, which is 1 son between 0-4, himself at age 30-39, one daughter age 0-4, and a wife 20-29.? Again, no son is listed in the correct age line of my John D. Owen(s) who would be age 7. Daniel Owen is listed?his children, and they are all accounted?(known) and there is no son listed in John D. Owen's age range. If anyone has any documents on wills, land deeds, etc. that might?mention?other Owen(s) that might fit with my John D. Owen, please let me know, and I will try to see if any other information fits. If anyone has any comments about the above, please let me know.??At least I know that John D. Owen doesn't belong to?this family as far as I can tell?AT THE PRESENT TIME.? I'm sure he is some relative,?so if anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears!! Deborah?? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Could someone tell me where the Petty Cemetery is located? Does anyone happen to have a cemetery listing for it? Thanks, Teresa

Hi, From Savannah go east on Pinhook Rd. also is #203. There is a 15 mile marker on #203 just before you turn right across Horse Creek on Ridge Road also called Gillis Rd. and becomes #2 as soon as you top first hill to south. Petty Cemetery is on the left about mile and half and is well marked. Herb Perry ----- Original Message ---- From: Teresa Smoke <TeresaSmoke@wildblue.net> To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:49:34 PM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Petty Cemetery Could someone tell me where the Petty Cemetery is located? Does anyone happen to have a cemetery listing for it? Thanks, Teresa ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

Hi Deborah and all; I am related to the Dossie Hopper who married Ora Sloan. Till now, all I had was her name. I would like to visit with you more about them. Dossie's parents were John W. Hopper and Ollie Hanna. I have a copy of his Obituary. His sister, Emily Hopper, married my gr, gr, gr uncle, Louis Washington Williamson whom my father was named. They had one daughter, Delitha Williamson, she married Silas Allen Nathaniel Depriest around 1925 in Hardin/McNairy Co. This was told to me by Delitha Williamson Depriest's son, who is still living. I am connected to the Hopper family also in that my gr, gr grandmother, was Talisa Hopper, born in 1847 in Hardin Co., TN, who married George W. Williamson. She was the daughter of Eli Sullivan Hopper and Avis Ann-last name unknown. Talisa Hopper and George W. Williamson were the parents of Louis Washington Williamson. I have more information on the Hopper/Williamson family. This is my home e-mail address. ly68@charter.net Also, my Williamson's married into the Garner family from the McNairy/Hardin Co., TN area. Mary Malecia Garner, born Mar 12, 1874 in McNairy Co., TN, married John Bell Williamson on Oct 15, 1891 in Hardin Co., TN. John Bell Williamson was the brother of my gr, gr grandfather, George W. Williamson, who married Talisa Hopper. Mary Malecia and John Williamson had three daughters, Minnie Myrtle, married Odell Evens Ollie B. married Chester Clarence Cook and Dosia Burley married Grandford L. Scott. Mary Malecia Garner's father was, from what I have been able to find, Isaac Franklin "Frank" Garner and her mother was Margaret Ash. Mary and John Bell Williamson are both buried in Liberty Cemetery in Hardin CO. I would like to find out if these Garner's and mine are related. I would be interested also in visiting with the Jim Hopper mentioned by David if he is related to this Hopper family. Thank you Charlotte McClain Christensen

Don't know if this will help or confuse matters. I found: 1880 census Hardin Co. Tn. District 2 Thomas Garner self m male W 33 Tn f.b. Tn m.b. Tn Mandy Garner wife m. female w. 26 Tn f.b. Va m.b.Tn. Alice A. Garner dau s. female w. 8 Tn Tn Tn Nancy J. Garner dau s. female w. 7 " " " Daniel W. Garner son s. male w. 5 " " " Olly A. Garner son s. male w. 2 " " " Minnie Garner other s female w 1mo." " " Minnie evidently is not Thomas' dau. Another researcher has Amanda as Amanda Gray, same children Alice Algerine b. 4 Dec 1871 Savannah Tn Nancy L. b. 7 Mar 1873 Clifton, Tn, Daniel W. b. abt 1875. Olly A. b. 4 May 1878, Minnie b. May 1889, Henry W. b. Nov 1884 in Tn, Eulichis S. b. 26 Feb 1886 Tn, Esther I. b. Oct 1888, Louis Jefferson b. 30 Mar 1897 tn. He has Thomas and Amanda m. 9 Apr 1871 in Smith Co Tn. Mandy b. abt. 1852 Tn. d. aby 1918 I checked the Mo Death Records for Pemiscot, found sixteen Garners, but not Amanda. I also checked the counties of Dunklin an Stoddard, nothing there. You can find this other researcher on family search.org, and on world connect @ rootsweb.com. Good hunting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> To: "Larry Foster" <l.foster10@verizon.net>; "Ben U. Owens" <BenUOwens@aol.com>; <MarGeo53@aol.com>; <tnhardin@rootsweb.com>; <WaxhwDPatt@aol.com> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan Families > Larry. > Did your Garner family come through Hardin > County? Live at Swift? > David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Foster > To: Ben U. Owens ; MarGeo53@aol.com ; > tnhardin@rootsweb.com ; David Cagle ; > WaxhwDPatt@aol.com > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan > Families > > > Hi OWEN(S) Cousins, > > I, too, descend from Daniel OWEN(S) > through his daughter, Amanda "Mandy," b Feb > 1852 TN d 1918 (Pemiscot) MO m ca 1871 > Thomas J. GARNER. A recent breakthrough was > to find the correct GARNER line - still to > be proved. My OWENS line ends with Daniel b > ca 1805 CT and Nancy b ca 1812 KY. They > were my GG Grandparents. I see some new > info in this thread but will > appreciate/love to have/ further info on > the OWEN(S) line. I will share any info I > have about Amanda and her issue or the > GARNER line. > > Larry Foster > Solvang, CA > Hi David, we met in your office in > Savannah. Thanks for all the info. > Larry > > And to this thread, was added: > From: MarGeo53@aol.com > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan > Families > Date: October 11, 2007 7:06:21 PM PDT > To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com, > dcagle1@charter.net, WaxhwDPatt@aol.com > Reply-To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com > > David, Deborah, etc. > > The Daniel Owen referred to in your recent > emails is an ancestor of mine. > It appears the census taker (?) in 1850 > added an s onto the Owen name. Later, > some of the family kept the S but most did > not. > > Daniel and Nancy Owen were the parents of > John R. Owen, b. 1851, m. Ellen > Alexander. > John R. and Ellen were the parents of > Laura Ida Owen, my grandmother, > who married William Chesley Alexander. > Laura and Chesley were the parents > of my > Mother, Nona Beryleen (Alexander), m. > Benjamin Roosevelt Duke. > > Margie R. (Duke) Baker > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 4:59 PM, David Cagle > wrote: > > > Deborah, > > I don't have much on these families and > I am not sure if this Owens family > is who you are looking for. I am aware > of some of the stuff you wrote. > Mrs. Sloan was the librarian at Central > High School about 50 years ago when > I was there. Jim Hopper filled me in on > some of this family material as I > ate lunch with him most week days for > the past 20 years. > > David > > > > > > > > Here is some information on Daniel Smith > and Alex. Sloan: > > Alexander Sloan, Sr. appeared to have > settled near what is now Clifton, TN. > He was married to Ruthy Unknown. > Alexander Sloan died abt. 1825. He is found > in Hardin Co. as early as the 1820 > census but is not in the home on the 1830 > census. Ruthy became the head of the > household in 1830. Ruthy died in Hardin > Co. prior to 1860 as there is a court > record of the estate settlement among > the heirs. The court record shows > Alexander Sloan, Jr. vs. Daniel Smith and > wife Clara; Alfred Kirby and wife Zabby; > William Hill and wife Nancy; > William > Sloan; Simpson Sloan; Bullard Sloan and > wife Dorinda; Willaim Hogan; Marian > Hogan; John Hogan; Elizabeth Hogan and > Alexander Hogan. (Hogan's may be > grand > children) Alexander II was asking for > Ruthy Sloan's land for keeping and > support of Ruthy; however, the court > ordered that the land be sold at public > action and the money divided. Property > was in Range 6 Section 5 on the TN. > River. Property was sold to Daniel Smith > as the highest bidder on 6/4/1860 > for $400. Plesant Smith and James Adams > signed a two year note with him. > Ruth > Sloan died in Hardin Co. TN.(Page 273) > $474. ($67.71) to be divided between > seven (7) heirs. > > Clerk and Master Minutes-Hardin Co. TN. > Roll # 1, Vol. C: Page 86, 136, 180, > 250, 273. > Page 251- Daniel Smith is dead (court > date 2/23/1866) and note has not been > paid. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Thomas and son Daniel were enumerated in > the 1830 census of > Hardin County as follows: > > Daniel Owen 00001-1001 > Thomas Owen 002110001-00100001 > > Other sons of Thomas and his wife Mary > were: David, Thomas J, > and William H. Owen. Two probable > daughters were: Sarah Ann > Gray and Caroline Battles. Son David was > married to Ann____ > and they had children, Alexander and > Mary, under the age of > 14 and living in Madison Co., MO on 7 > Nov. 1853. > > 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN > 1st Civil District > David Owen 100001-10001 > Thomas J. Owen 00001-11000001 > > 5th Civil District > Daniel Owen 100001-13101 > > > 1850 Census Hardin Co., TN > > 5th Civil District > Daniel Owens 43 CT cabinet maker > Nancy 38 KY > Almeda 19 TN > Sarah 18 TN > Paralee 17 TN > Martha 15 TN > Roan 13 TN > Lewis 11 TN > Mary E. 9 TN > J. C. M. (m) 6 TN > William 4 TN > Louisa 2 TN > children added after 1850 were: > John, b. 1851 TN > Amanda, b. 1853 TN > Algereen b. 1856 TN > > > > > > > The 1860 census of Hardin Co., TN shows > Daniel and son Lewis > enumerated in the 2nd Civil District. > > > > > > Daniel Owens 55 CT > > Nancy 48 KY > > J. C. 15 TN > > William 13 TN > > Eliza 11 TN > > John 9 TN > > Amanda 7 TN > > Algereen 4 TN > > > > Lewis N. F. Owens 20 TN > > Sarah (Whitlow) 19 TN > > > > Lewis is the only Owens of this family > left in Hardin County in 1870 > enumerated > in that census as follows: > Lewis Owens 28 TN farm labor > Sally 28 TN > Martha 9 TN > William 5 TN > Amos Duckworth 34 TN > > > Daniel and Nancy Owens' Children > > 1. f. Almeda b. 1830 > 2. f. Sarah b. 1833 m. Burlison > 3. f. Paralee b. 1834 > 4. f. Martha b. 1835 m. George Mathis > 5. f. Roann b. 1836 > 6. m. *Lewis b. 1838 m. Sarah ( Whitlow) > 7. f. Marye b. 1842 > 8. m. J.C.M.C. b. 1845 > 9. m. William C. b. 1847 > 10. f. Louisa/Eliza b. 1849 > 11. m. John R. b. 1851 m. Ellen > Alexander > 12. f. Amanda b. 1852 > 13. f. Algeseen b. 1856 m. Edward Wooten > > The 1880 census of Hardin County shows > Nancy Owens living in > the household of Edward Wooten and wife > Algseen. Edward and > Algereen obtained a marriage license on > 1 July 1879 and were > married on 3 July, 1879. The 1880 Census > of Hardin Co., TN > shows as follows: > > Edward Wooten 29 FL AL TN > Algereen 26 TN TN > Belinda 1 TN > Nancy Owens 70 TN mother of Algereen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <waxhwdpatt@aol.com> > To: <TNHARDIN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:52 > PM > Subject: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan > Families > > > > Does anyone know anything about the > Owens, Hill, & Sloan families of > Hardin Co TN?? I would like to know > more about my heritage regarding these > 3 families. > > I am descended from Clara Sloan, my > great grandmother.? She still has a > son alive and living in CA.? She was > born 20 April 1893 in Sardis, Hardin > Co TN.? I have good memories of > visiting her house before she passed away > in 1971, I was only?7 years old & our > family was unable to attend the > funeral because we were out of the > country.? Clara, or Grandma Teed as > everyone knew her, took care of her > sister Mary (Aunt Mary) her whole > life.? Aunt Mary was mildly > handicapped, and I don't know in what way, > because she was just Aunt Mary to me > when I was little.? She seemed to > help Grandma Teed as much as any other > woman might, but that is through > the eyes of a child.? Aunt Mary never > married.? They were both very stout > women, I remember coming to visit, and > I always knew when we visited them, > because I knew the smell of their > house.? Everyone's house had it's own > distictive smell when I was little.? > My sister says she remembers the same > thing. > > Clara & Mary's parents were Daniel > "Danny" M. Sloan (born abt 1855 & died > abt Dec 1900) and Nancy J. Lee "Nanny" > Owens (born Sept 1866, died about > Jan 1901).? Danny & Nanny are said to > have died within 2 weeks of each > other, of "consumption", which was > probably a flu virus.? The children > were raised by their maternal > grandparents, and I'll get to them soon.? > The childrens names were: Mary (lived > with Clara & never married), Thomas > Sloan(never married that I know of), > Clara Sloan, Warren Hastings Sloan, > Nancy Leora "Ora" Sloan, and Lura > Sloan.? Warren Hastings Sloan only had > one daughter who has since passed > away, unmarried & no children that I > know of.? Her fortune was taken by a > person who was supposed to be taking > care of her in the last years of her > life.? Aamy Sloan was her name, and I > met her.? She was a very nice, > professional lady who seemed to work hard.? > Ora Sloan married Dossie Lilburn > Hopper, and I would love to hear from > this branch of the tree.? I only have > two ! > children listed, Elmer and Frankie, > but no other info.? Lura Sloan > married?a Rube Sykes, and I think they > live(d?) in TX.? I have no children > listed for them either.? I would love > to correspond with someone on that > branch of the tree. > > Moving on, we have Danny's parents, > Alexander P. Sloan and Nancy Murphy.? > I may have corresponded with some of > the researchers on the Sloan/Murphy > connections already, but would like to > reestablish some contacts and see > what else we can come up with. > > We also have Nanny's parents, John D. > Owens, b. May 1833 TN?and Nancy/Mary > Polly "Nan" Hill b. Jun 1837 TN.? > These two raised Danny's and Nanny's > children from 1901 on.? They were > married on Aug 28, 1862 according to > their headstone.? They got married > during the Civil War, a hard time. > John would have been 29 and Mary V. > would have been 21. > > 1860 Hardin Co TN census: dist 13, > Saltillo PO > W B Hill, 83, m, farmer, 300, TN (age > is incorrect I think, 1850 census > shows correct age). > Nancy Hill, 46, f, TN > Mary V, 19, f, TN > Leroy E, 18, m, farm laborer, TN (this > is actually Levoy). > > According to an 1850 Hardin Co TN > census: > W B Hill, 40, laberor, TN > Nancy Hill, 30, female, TN > Susan C., 12, female, TN > Polly Van?, 10, f, TN > Vera (Levoy) J, 6, m, TN > Eathalinda I., 1, f, TN > > Now the reason I know this is my Hill > family, is that I have a connection > on my dad's side of the family that > connects up with Susan C., and just > made the connection to this family > this past summer.? I would LOVE to talk > to anyone who knows more about this > Hill family (families).? 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On Oct 14, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Betty Downing wrote: > Don't know if this will help or confuse > matters. I found: 1880 census Hardin Co. Tn. > District 2 Thanks, Betty, It can only helpful - This is my family. Alice Algerine was my father's mother, my grandmother. > Thomas Garner self m male W 33 Tn f.b. Tn m.b. Tn I believe his father, James /runnels GARNER was b ca 1800 (Pittsylvania) VA > Mandy Garner wife m. female w. 26 Tn f.b. Va m.b.Tn. I believe her father, Daniel OWEN(S) was b ca 1805 CT > Alice A. Garner dau s. female w. 8 Tn Tn Tn b 4 Dec 1871 Savannah m John B. FOSTER > Nancy J. Garner dau s. female w. 7 " " " b. 7 Mar 1873 Clifton m. Sylvanius "Van" NEW > Daniel W. Garner son s. male w. 5 " " " b ca 1875 > Olly A. Garner son s. male w. 2 " " " b. 4 May 1878 Buried with Alice Algerine and three other GARNERS Little Prairie Cemetery, (Pemiscot) MO > Minnie Garner other s female w 1mo." " " b May 1880 m 1 Sam BELL 2 unk EXXUM > Minnie evidently is not Thomas' dau. I believe she was plus 5 more, Henry Winslow, Eulicius "Eulie" S., Esther L., J. R., Louis Jefferson "Tobe" > Another researcher has Amanda as Amanda Gray, Yes, I once had the name GRAY but believe OWEN is correct > same children Alice Algerine b. 4 Dec 1871 Savannah Tn > Nancy L. b. 7 Mar 1873 Clifton, Tn, > Daniel W. b. abt 1875. > Olly A. b. 4 May 1878, > Minnie b. May 1889, > Henry W. b. Nov 1884 in Tn, > Eulichis S. b. 26 Feb 1886 Tn, > Esther I. b. Oct 1888, > Louis Jefferson b. 30 Mar 1897 tn. > He has Thomas and Amanda m. 9 Apr 1871 in Smith Co Tn. I did not have that date nor location. Thank you > Mandy b. abt. 1852 Tn. d. aby > 1918 > > I checked the Mo Death Records for Pemiscot, > found sixteen Garners, but not Amanda. She is buried in Little Prairie Cemetery, Caruthersville (Pemiscot) MO > I > also checked the counties of Dunklin an > Stoddard, nothing there. > You can find this other researcher on family > search.org, and on world connect @ > rootsweb.com. > Good hunting. Any corrections and/or additions will be appreciated. Thank you, Larry Foster > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> > To: "Larry Foster" <l.foster10@verizon.net>; > "Ben U. Owens" <BenUOwens@aol.com>; > <MarGeo53@aol.com>; <tnhardin@rootsweb.com>; > <WaxhwDPatt@aol.com> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan > Families > > >> Larry. >> Did your Garner family come through Hardin >> County? Live at Swift? >> David >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Larry Foster >> To: Ben U. Owens ; MarGeo53@aol.com ; >> tnhardin@rootsweb.com ; David Cagle ; >> WaxhwDPatt@aol.com >> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan >> Families >> >> >> Hi OWEN(S) Cousins, >> >> I, too, descend from Daniel OWEN(S) >> through his daughter, Amanda "Mandy," b Feb >> 1852 TN d 1918 (Pemiscot) MO m ca 1871 >> Thomas J. GARNER. A recent breakthrough was >> to find the correct GARNER line - still to >> be proved. My OWENS line ends with Daniel b >> ca 1805 CT and Nancy b ca 1812 KY. They >> were my GG Grandparents. I see some new >> info in this thread but will >> appreciate/love to have/ further info on >> the OWEN(S) line. I will share any info I >> have about Amanda and her issue or the >> GARNER line. >> >> Larry Foster >> Solvang, CA >> Hi David, we met in your office in >> Savannah. Thanks for all the info. >> Larry >> >> And to this thread, was added: >> From: MarGeo53@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan >> Families >> Date: October 11, 2007 7:06:21 PM PDT >> To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com, >> dcagle1@charter.net, WaxhwDPatt@aol.com >> Reply-To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com >> >> David, Deborah, etc. >> >> The Daniel Owen referred to in your recent >> emails is an ancestor of mine. >> It appears the census taker (?) in 1850 >> added an s onto the Owen name. Later, >> some of the family kept the S but most did >> not. >> >> Daniel and Nancy Owen were the parents of >> John R. Owen, b. 1851, m. Ellen >> Alexander. >> John R. and Ellen were the parents of >> Laura Ida Owen, my grandmother, >> who married William Chesley Alexander. >> Laura and Chesley were the parents >> of my >> Mother, Nona Beryleen (Alexander), m. >> Benjamin Roosevelt Duke. >> >> Margie R. (Duke) Baker >> >> On Oct 11, 2007, at 4:59 PM, David Cagle >> wrote: >> >> >> Deborah, >> >> I don't have much on these families and >> I am not sure if this Owens family >> is who you are looking for. I am aware >> of some of the stuff you wrote. >> Mrs. Sloan was the librarian at Central >> High School about 50 years ago when >> I was there. Jim Hopper filled me in on >> some of this family material as I >> ate lunch with him most week days for >> the past 20 years. >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is some information on Daniel Smith >> and Alex. Sloan: >> >> Alexander Sloan, Sr. appeared to have >> settled near what is now Clifton, TN. >> He was married to Ruthy Unknown. >> Alexander Sloan died abt. 1825. He is found >> in Hardin Co. as early as the 1820 >> census but is not in the home on the 1830 >> census. Ruthy became the head of the >> household in 1830. Ruthy died in Hardin >> Co. prior to 1860 as there is a court >> record of the estate settlement among >> the heirs. The court record shows >> Alexander Sloan, Jr. vs. Daniel Smith and >> wife Clara; Alfred Kirby and wife Zabby; >> William Hill and wife Nancy; >> William >> Sloan; Simpson Sloan; Bullard Sloan and >> wife Dorinda; Willaim Hogan; Marian >> Hogan; John Hogan; Elizabeth Hogan and >> Alexander Hogan. (Hogan's may be >> grand >> children) Alexander II was asking for >> Ruthy Sloan's land for keeping and >> support of Ruthy; however, the court >> ordered that the land be sold at public >> action and the money divided. Property >> was in Range 6 Section 5 on the TN. >> River. Property was sold to Daniel Smith >> as the highest bidder on 6/4/1860 >> for $400. Plesant Smith and James Adams >> signed a two year note with him. >> Ruth >> Sloan died in Hardin Co. TN.(Page 273) >> $474. ($67.71) to be divided between >> seven (7) heirs. >> >> Clerk and Master Minutes-Hardin Co. TN. >> Roll # 1, Vol. C: Page 86, 136, 180, >> 250, 273. >> Page 251- Daniel Smith is dead (court >> date 2/23/1866) and note has not been >> paid. >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> ___ >> >> >> >> Thomas and son Daniel were enumerated in >> the 1830 census of >> Hardin County as follows: >> >> Daniel Owen 00001-1001 >> Thomas Owen 002110001-00100001 >> >> Other sons of Thomas and his wife Mary >> were: David, Thomas J, >> and William H. Owen. Two probable >> daughters were: Sarah Ann >> Gray and Caroline Battles. Son David was >> married to Ann____ >> and they had children, Alexander and >> Mary, under the age of >> 14 and living in Madison Co., MO on 7 >> Nov. 1853. >> >> 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN >> 1st Civil District >> David Owen 100001-10001 >> Thomas J. Owen 00001-11000001 >> >> 5th Civil District >> Daniel Owen 100001-13101 >> >> >> 1850 Census Hardin Co., TN >> >> 5th Civil District >> Daniel Owens 43 CT cabinet maker >> Nancy 38 KY >> Almeda 19 TN >> Sarah 18 TN >> Paralee 17 TN >> Martha 15 TN >> Roan 13 TN >> Lewis 11 TN >> Mary E. 9 TN >> J. C. M. (m) 6 TN >> William 4 TN >> Louisa 2 TN >> children added after 1850 were: >> John, b. 1851 TN >> Amanda, b. 1853 TN >> Algereen b. 1856 TN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The 1860 census of Hardin Co., TN shows >> Daniel and son Lewis >> enumerated in the 2nd Civil District. >> >> >> >> >> >> Daniel Owens 55 CT >> >> Nancy 48 KY >> >> J. C. 15 TN >> >> William 13 TN >> >> Eliza 11 TN >> >> John 9 TN >> >> Amanda 7 TN >> >> Algereen 4 TN >> >> >> >> Lewis N. F. Owens 20 TN >> >> Sarah (Whitlow) 19 TN >> >> >> >> Lewis is the only Owens of this family >> left in Hardin County in 1870 >> enumerated >> in that census as follows: >> Lewis Owens 28 TN farm labor >> Sally 28 TN >> Martha 9 TN >> William 5 TN >> Amos Duckworth 34 TN >> >> >> Daniel and Nancy Owens' Children >> >> 1. f. Almeda b. 1830 >> 2. f. Sarah b. 1833 m. Burlison >> 3. f. Paralee b. 1834 >> 4. f. Martha b. 1835 m. George Mathis >> 5. f. Roann b. 1836 >> 6. m. *Lewis b. 1838 m. Sarah ( Whitlow) >> 7. f. Marye b. 1842 >> 8. m. J.C.M.C. b. 1845 >> 9. m. William C. b. 1847 >> 10. f. Louisa/Eliza b. 1849 >> 11. m. John R. b. 1851 m. Ellen >> Alexander >> 12. f. Amanda b. 1852 >> 13. f. Algeseen b. 1856 m. Edward Wooten >> >> The 1880 census of Hardin County shows >> Nancy Owens living in >> the household of Edward Wooten and wife >> Algseen. Edward and >> Algereen obtained a marriage license on >> 1 July 1879 and were >> married on 3 July, 1879. The 1880 Census >> of Hardin Co., TN >> shows as follows: >> >> Edward Wooten 29 FL AL TN >> Algereen 26 TN TN >> Belinda 1 TN >> Nancy Owens 70 TN mother of Algereen >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <waxhwdpatt@aol.com> >> To: <TNHARDIN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:52 >> PM >> Subject: [TNHARDIN] Owens, Hill, Sloan >> Families >> >> >> >> Does anyone know anything about the >> Owens, Hill, & Sloan families of >> Hardin Co TN?? I would like to know >> more about my heritage regarding these >> 3 families. >> >> I am descended from Clara Sloan, my >> great grandmother.? She still has a >> son alive and living in CA.? She was >> born 20 April 1893 in Sardis, Hardin >> Co TN.? I have good memories of >> visiting her house before she passed away >> in 1971, I was only?7 years old & our >> family was unable to attend the >> funeral because we were out of the >> country.? Clara, or Grandma Teed as >> everyone knew her, took care of her >> sister Mary (Aunt Mary) her whole >> life.? Aunt Mary was mildly >> handicapped, and I don't know in what way, >> because she was just Aunt Mary to me >> when I was little.? She seemed to >> help Grandma Teed as much as any other >> woman might, but that is through >> the eyes of a child.? Aunt Mary never >> married.? They were both very stout >> women, I remember coming to visit, and >> I always knew when we visited them, >> because I knew the smell of their >> house.? Everyone's house had it's own >> distictive smell when I was little.? >> My sister says she remembers the same >> thing. >> >> Clara & Mary's parents were Daniel >> "Danny" M. Sloan (born abt 1855 & died >> abt Dec 1900) and Nancy J. Lee "Nanny" >> Owens (born Sept 1866, died about >> Jan 1901).? Danny & Nanny are said to >> have died within 2 weeks of each >> other, of "consumption", which was >> probably a flu virus.? The children >> were raised by their maternal >> grandparents, and I'll get to them soon.? >> The childrens names were: Mary (lived >> with Clara & never married), Thomas >> Sloan(never married that I know of), >> Clara Sloan, Warren Hastings Sloan, >> Nancy Leora "Ora" Sloan, and Lura >> Sloan.? Warren Hastings Sloan only had >> one daughter who has since passed >> away, unmarried & no children that I >> know of.? Her fortune was taken by a >> person who was supposed to be taking >> care of her in the last years of her >> life.? Aamy Sloan was her name, and I >> met her.? She was a very nice, >> professional lady who seemed to work hard.? >> Ora Sloan married Dossie Lilburn >> Hopper, and I would love to hear from >> this branch of the tree.? I only have >> two ! >> children listed, Elmer and Frankie, >> but no other info.? Lura Sloan >> married?a Rube Sykes, and I think they >> live(d?) in TX.? I have no children >> listed for them either.? I would love >> to correspond with someone on that >> branch of the tree. >> >> Moving on, we have Danny's parents, >> Alexander P. Sloan and Nancy Murphy.? >> I may have corresponded with some of >> the researchers on the Sloan/Murphy >> connections already, but would like to >> reestablish some contacts and see >> what else we can come up with. >> >> We also have Nanny's parents, John D. >> Owens, b. May 1833 TN?and Nancy/Mary >> Polly "Nan" Hill b. Jun 1837 TN.? >> These two raised Danny's and Nanny's >> children from 1901 on.? They were >> married on Aug 28, 1862 according to >> their headstone.? They got married >> during the Civil War, a hard time. >> John would have been 29 and Mary V. >> would have been 21. >> >> 1860 Hardin Co TN census: dist 13, >> Saltillo PO >> W B Hill, 83, m, farmer, 300, TN (age >> is incorrect I think, 1850 census >> shows correct age). >> Nancy Hill, 46, f, TN >> Mary V, 19, f, TN >> Leroy E, 18, m, farm laborer, TN (this >> is actually Levoy). >> >> According to an 1850 Hardin Co TN >> census: >> W B Hill, 40, laberor, TN >> Nancy Hill, 30, female, TN >> Susan C., 12, female, TN >> Polly Van?, 10, f, TN >> Vera (Levoy) J, 6, m, TN >> Eathalinda I., 1, f, TN >> >> Now the reason I know this is my Hill >> family, is that I have a connection >> on my dad's side of the family that >> connects up with Susan C., and just >> made the connection to this family >> this past summer.? I would LOVE to talk >> to anyone who knows more about this >> Hill family (families).? Thank you! >> >> Deborah >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> Email and AIM finally together. 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