That list is where I found my GrGrGrandfather ... but I found it at no cost. not sure where, it's been a while ... have you seen this? http://www.civilwar.nps.gov/cwss/ ___________________________ Bob Ricketts {bobr@foresight.net} -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Annette Williams" <awilliams1@mindspring.com> > > I ran across an 1890 Civil War Census for Hardin County on Ebay. I > wondered if this is something that can be accessed somewhere else without > paying for the CD. It says it is a census of veterans and surviving widows > from Hardin County and that it contains information about soldiers wounds > and if they were in POW camps etc. Sounds interesting but not sure if it > is worth the price. > > > Annette Stricklin Williams > awilliams1@mindspring.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

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I went to the site and it seems to be a complete record for what was being sold on Ebay. Thank you so much. It was very interesting. Annette Stricklin Williams awilliams1@mindspring.com > [Original Message] > From: <Mep516@aol.com> > To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/29/2008 9:30:10 AM > Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] 1890 Civil War Census link > > Possibly what you're looking for can be found at: > > _http://home.lorettotel.net/~lcarchives/hardin90.htm_ > (http://home.lorettotel.net/~lcarchives/hardin90.htm) > > Hardin County, Tennessee > 1890 Civil War VeteransCensus > > > > In a message dated 1/29/2008 8:18:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > kbdell@comcast.net writes: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Possibly what you're looking for can be found at: _http://home.lorettotel.net/~lcarchives/hardin90.htm_ (http://home.lorettotel.net/~lcarchives/hardin90.htm) Hardin County, Tennessee 1890 Civil War VeteransCensus In a message dated 1/29/2008 8:18:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, kbdell@comcast.net writes: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

This CD advertised on Ebay is not for Hardin County, TN, but for Hardin County, OH. There are TN counties listed under the CD offer for TN, but Hardin county is not among them. -------Original Message------- From: Annette Williams Date: 01/29/08 08:16:10 To: TNHARDIN Subject: [TNHARDIN] 1890 Civil War Census I ran across an 1890 Civil War Census for Hardin County on Ebay. I wondered if this is something that can be accessed somewhere else without paying for the CD. It says it is a census of veterans and surviving widows from Hardin County and that it contains information about soldiers wounds and if they were in POW camps etc. Sounds interesting but not sure if it is worth the price. Annette Stricklin Williams awilliams1@mindspring.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have access to ancestry.com, the records are at 1890 Veterans Schedules > Tennessee > Hardin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Williams" <awilliams1@mindspring.com> To: "TNHARDIN" <TNHARDIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: [TNHARDIN] 1890 Civil War Census >I ran across an 1890 Civil War Census for Hardin County on Ebay. I > wondered if this is something that can be accessed somewhere else without > paying for the CD. It says it is a census of veterans and surviving > widows > from Hardin County and that it contains information about soldiers wounds > and if they were in POW camps etc. Sounds interesting but not sure if it > is worth the price. > > > Annette Stricklin Williams > awilliams1@mindspring.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This sounds really good. I would also be interested in the answer. Myrna On Jan 29, 2008 8:15 AM, Annette Williams <awilliams1@mindspring.com> wrote: > I ran across an 1890 Civil War Census for Hardin County on Ebay. I > wondered if this is something that can be accessed somewhere else without > paying for the CD. It says it is a census of veterans and surviving > widows > from Hardin County and that it contains information about soldiers wounds > and if they were in POW camps etc. Sounds interesting but not sure if it > is worth the price. > > > Annette Stricklin Williams > awilliams1@mindspring.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I ran across an 1890 Civil War Census for Hardin County on Ebay. I wondered if this is something that can be accessed somewhere else without paying for the CD. It says it is a census of veterans and surviving widows from Hardin County and that it contains information about soldiers wounds and if they were in POW camps etc. Sounds interesting but not sure if it is worth the price. Annette Stricklin Williams awilliams1@mindspring.com

Perhaps I might add my two cents about the political leanings of Hardin County. As I recall from my research and numerous readings, only two states allowed citizens to vote on secession, Virginia & Tennessee. The decision of the other Southern states on whether to seceed or not rested solely with their elected representatives. I may stand corrected but that is my understanding. I believe both Tennessee and Virginia citizens voted by a 2 to 1 margin initially voted against secession. Then, after Lincoln "requested' 75,000 volunteers to supress the secession and ordered the states (including Tenn and VA) still in the union that they would have to provide the 75,000 volunteers and also pay for it, then Tenn and VA had severe heartburn, so had a new vote and the consensus reversed to 2 to 1 in favor of secession. It needs to be remembered that Southern states especially regarded their borders and soverignty to be sacrocinct. Both states (TN & VA) realized that since their combined borders reached from the Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River and that Lincoln was effectively ordering that their states would be invaded and occupied by outside forces, the commonly despised north. Please bear in mind that the all Southern states, including Tennessee, had been demonized by New England interests for various reasons for decades and a great antipathy existed between the regions, even predating The Revolutionary War. These sectional differences included religion, the rights of states to handle their affairs, cultural, acquisition of new western territories, acquisition of Southern resources to the benefit of the north, general slander by northern newspapers, northern instigation of deadly slave rebellions, abusive tariffs for northern benefit, and of course slavery. This is a simple statement of fact. To say this war was solely caused by slavery is simplistic, and false. The issues that existed in the entire nation, the state of Tennessee , the South and in Hardin County are complicated and encompass all of the above mentioned areas, and more......... I believe that neither Tenn or VA would accept an invasion of their fellow Southern states over their borders. Don't forget that Southern states, including Tenn and VA, highly valued their independence and their borders. Although some counties of both Tenn and VA were fairly strong unionist counties, by large it was a 2 or 3 to 1 vote to seceed. I might add that the states of ARK, NC, TN and VA seceeded only after Lincoln ordered his invasion. But for Lincoln's agressive tendancies, the Confederacy would likely have died on the vine. I believe that the citizenry of Hardin County pretty much followed the state as a whole and although initially desiring to remain in the union, after Lincoln ordered the invasion of their state and fellow Southern states on May 6, 1861, they became incensed and rose up in pretty much enmasse to resist an invasion of their state. One must look at the time frame as to whether Hardin Countanians supported the union or the Confederacy. Lincoln's orders to invade Tennessee was the watershed. So, I guess if one wants to gauge what Hardin Countanians wanted to do about the war you would have to look at whether it was before or after Lincoln ordered the invasion and subjugation of their state. And about myraid other sectional and personal reasons. Just my opinion but I believe pretty factual. Gene Wade ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com>; <tnwayne@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] [TNWAYNE] the Buggar Saga > Nena, > I think Hardin County voted about 3 to 1 to remain in the Union, but the > State didn't, so there went Hardin Co. I don't think that that translates > into Hardin County being mostly Union. I think the numbers of solders > might > be about 3 to 1 in the other direction. There were 6 regiments with 10 > companies of Confederates from Hardin County while there were 3 regiments > with 6 companies of Union troops raised in Hardin Co. This doesn't give > us > a number that you can exactly put your finger on. > > The 2nd Mounted was stationed at Clifton and operated mostly in Middle > Tennessee and while at home tended to pick on the Confederate families. > Both Biffle and the First Confederate Cavalry spent much time in Hardin > and > Wayne Co. However, Bert Hays and his company from Wilson's Cavalry > (apparently on their own accord) decided to defend the Confederate > population in this area. "Buggar Saga" gives Bert credit for killing just > about everyone in this area who died as the result of guerilla activities > during the war. Burt was No. 1 on the most wanted list of guerillas, but > never brought to trial after the war. However, he was bushwhacked in > 1866. > > David > > >> David and Mary Hollis Franks, >> >> Mary you say most of the county was Union? That is exactly opposite of >> what >> this book says. "a few Union sympathizers". >> >>>From what I gather from the book he gives maybe not quite equal >> representation of BOTH sides having a "bad" or "gang" renegade regiment >> going around raping, pillaging and plundering. >> >> But that those of Clifton were some of the worst. And he gives a list of >> men...and NO my ancestor J.W. wasn't on that list...but surly somewhere >> there is a record of him being there... or how else would you have known >> that both George and Jordan were there David? I mean I know one was in >> co. >> B...but that bunch in Clifton was made up of men from several outfits. >> >> I loaned my book to my mother...but was reading today, near page 125, he >> gives reference to another manuscript written by another author that was >> unpublished. Linda something or other. Anybody got a clue about this? >> >> Are there any other books on the subject and the area? >> >> Nena >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: >> 1/28/2008 10:59 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nena, I think Hardin County voted about 3 to 1 to remain in the Union, but the State didn't, so there went Hardin Co. I don't think that that translates into Hardin County being mostly Union. I think the numbers of solders might be about 3 to 1 in the other direction. There were 6 regiments with 10 companies of Confederates from Hardin County while there were 3 regiments with 6 companies of Union troops raised in Hardin Co. This doesn't give us a number that you can exactly put your finger on. The 2nd Mounted was stationed at Clifton and operated mostly in Middle Tennessee and while at home tended to pick on the Confederate families. Both Biffle and the First Confederate Cavalry spent much time in Hardin and Wayne Co. However, Bert Hays and his company from Wilson's Cavalry (apparently on their own accord) decided to defend the Confederate population in this area. "Buggar Saga" gives Bert credit for killing just about everyone in this area who died as the result of guerilla activities during the war. Burt was No. 1 on the most wanted list of guerillas, but never brought to trial after the war. However, he was bushwhacked in 1866. David > David and Mary Hollis Franks, > > Mary you say most of the county was Union? That is exactly opposite of > what > this book says. "a few Union sympathizers". > >>From what I gather from the book he gives maybe not quite equal > representation of BOTH sides having a "bad" or "gang" renegade regiment > going around raping, pillaging and plundering. > > But that those of Clifton were some of the worst. And he gives a list of > men...and NO my ancestor J.W. wasn't on that list...but surly somewhere > there is a record of him being there... or how else would you have known > that both George and Jordan were there David? I mean I know one was in > co. > B...but that bunch in Clifton was made up of men from several outfits. > > I loaned my book to my mother...but was reading today, near page 125, he > gives reference to another manuscript written by another author that was > unpublished. Linda something or other. Anybody got a clue about this? > > Are there any other books on the subject and the area? > > Nena > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNWAYNE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: > 1/28/2008 10:59 AM > >

NEED PARENTS OF IVAN HENRY SHELBY b: 6 SEP 1879 d: 24 DEC 1942 HARDIN CO.TN. bur: MT.VIEW CEM.HARDIN CO.TN. Sp: SARAH PINEDEXTER "CAT" LOVE. APPRECIATE ANY HELP. BUDDY WOFFORD

Buddy, I found the parents of Ivens Henry Shelby, but that is about all. He was the son of Ivens Shelby, b. 1817 NC and Nancy M,. Shelby, b. 1845 TN. It appears that Nancy may have been previously married and had a daughter, Margaret Austin, b. 1873 TN. I am wondering if that first name might be Evan rather than Ivan? David ----- Original Message ----- From: <few@bellsouth.net> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: [TNHARDIN] IVAN HENRY SHELBY > NEED PARENTS OF IVAN HENRY SHELBY b: 6 SEP 1879 d: 24 DEC 1942 HARDIN > CO.TN. bur: MT.VIEW CEM.HARDIN CO.TN. Sp: SARAH PINEDEXTER "CAT" LOVE. > APPRECIATE ANY HELP. > BUDDY WOFFORD > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: > 1/25/2008 7:44 PM > >

Betty; As promised, here what I found so far Dan'l Asbell helped provide surety for Mary Asbell's wedding to G B Wooley* Solomon Asbel is on the 1837 State and Territoral census he was listed as over 45 years of age and the only one in his H/H with 6 acres under cultivation There 2 Asbell's on the 1845 Tishomingo County, MS [State and Territory] census Sarah Asbell with 3 males and 1 female in her H/H James Asbell with 4 males and 3 females in his H/H Marriages Louisa Asbell wed GB Woodly on 11 July 1857 Married by M M Smith; Sureties by G B Woodley & James McRae *Mary Asbell wed G B Wooley on 18 Oct 1865; Married by J D Davis JP Sureties by John & Dan'l Asbell Mary Asbell wed Joseph B Randolph on 15 Dec 1853 Married by AH Booth M G Surety by Jack Williams Sarah J Asbell wed Grandville Dottson on 29 Jan 1857; Married by R Price JP Surety by Issac Fields it is interesting to note, there was a Issac fields listed next to Sarah Asbell in the 1845 Census there are 2 recorded Azbell marriages in Tishomingo County T J Azbell wed Susannah Jobe on 17? Aug 1837 the first known recorded marriage in Tish county is John P Azbell and Jane Phillips on 02 April 1837 Maybe this willhelp some George David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> wrote: I see a Dan Asbille in Decatur Co., TN, age 33 in 1910. That Him? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stivers" To: "David Cagle" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Asbille's > Hi Cuz, My Grandfather was Daniel Lafayette Asbille. Please, if you ever > hear anything about the Asbille's would you let me know. > > I hope this finds you and yours well. > > Betty Stivers > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 1/16/2008 9:01 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

I'm helping a cousin with his Great-grandfather, Dan L. Godwin. He was born August 28, 1884 in Tennessee. I found him in Hardin County, TN in the 1900 Census as a boarder by hisself. It is said that his father remarried and Dan did not like the new wife so he run away. His father was born in either Kentucky or Tennessee, according to which census you look. He married Clara Stewart between 1910 and 1920. She was born July 24, 1893 in Mississippi. They lived in Yalobusha County, MS from at least 1920 until death. They had four children: Sadie M., Francis L., Clarence E., and Luther. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Sonja I have two lines of Hales (may be conneIcted) lines from Conway and Pope counties in AR. The Pope County line is connected to my son-in-law's 95 year old grandmother. (she's as sharp as a tack). I will see her this week-end and will see if I can find from her. The other line that was in Conway may or may or not be connected to the Pope County line. But both of these lines have connections to Perry County, AR. Please feel free to contact me at jblittle@cox.net , maybe we can connect the dots. Jennie ----- Original Message ----- From: "sonja atkeson" <sjamorris@yahoo.com> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: [TNHARDIN] hale family to conway co. ar > my gggrandfather john nd hale and lavicy was in hardin co. in 1840 > and1850, in mcnairy co. in 1860, and in 1880 they are in conway co. ar.. > they had a least 6 childern and son david dinsmore hale had 10 childern > yet i have not found anyone researching this family. my skills on knowing > how and where to search for information are limited. any help would be > great. > sonja > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hello Carolyn i have seen where benjamin hale's childern were josiah c, guy s, richard c., and james w., james w hale shows to be my ggggrandfather, but im still unsure. does it state benjamin's childern in his will amd was he in hardin co.tn.? sonja ----- Original Message ---- From: "CCA44@aol.com" <CCA44@aol.com> To: tnhardin@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 8:43:12 AM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Any help with hale family Hi Sonja, I too have had questions about the first Hale family in Hardin Co. since Robert Russell not only was Administrator of Benjamin Hale's will but also put up the security. Here is the notation taken at the DAR Library in 2001: December 20, 1824, Hardin Co. TN: On the application of Robert Russell it is ordered that letters of administration issue to him on all and singular the goods, and chattels which were of Benjamin Hale deceased. The said Robert Russell having given bond and security according to law and qualified as such Administrator. I do not have the name of the first wife of Robert Russell and many times have wondered if she were a relative of the above Benjamin Hale. Carolyn Anderson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

It is the same Asbille group. The Asbel/Asbell/Asbill/Azbill/ name has under went quite a few changes, due to illiteracy or census takers trying to spell by sound?? Nancy Asbell was my gg Grandmother, Daniel L. Asbell was her son, fathered by my gg Grandfather Daniel Lawson whom we found by YDNA testing. They lived in Tishomingo County, MS at the time. Some papers say that Nancy and Daniel were married, I beg to differ, if they were why did the children go by the Asbell name. Daniel L. Asbell married Mary Elizabeth Stringfellow, they had my Grandfather Daniel Lafayette Asbille, who married Ocie Ella Boroughs. Any information is appreciated. Betty Asbille Stivers ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Pearson" <george3719@yahoo.com> To: <tnhardin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Asbille's > David > I wonder if Asbille and Asbel is variations of the same surname. If the > two surnames are connected, the Asbel's was in Tishomingo County, MS by > 1866. > George > > David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> wrote: > I see a Dan Asbille in Decatur Co., TN, age 33 in 1910. > That Him? > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Stivers" > To: "David Cagle" > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:41 PM > Subject: Asbille's > > >> Hi Cuz, My Grandfather was Daniel Lafayette Asbille. Please, if you ever >> hear anything about the Asbille's would you let me know. >> >> I hope this finds you and yours well. >> >> Betty Stivers >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 1/16/2008 9:01 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

David I wonder if Asbille and Asbel is variations of the same surname. If the two surnames are connected, the Asbel's was in Tishomingo County, MS by 1866. George David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> wrote: I see a Dan Asbille in Decatur Co., TN, age 33 in 1910. That Him? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Stivers" To: "David Cagle" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Asbille's > Hi Cuz, My Grandfather was Daniel Lafayette Asbille. Please, if you ever > hear anything about the Asbille's would you let me know. > > I hope this finds you and yours well. > > Betty Stivers > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 1/16/2008 9:01 AM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNHARDIN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

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