Pam, I also believe that Charles A. Shelby was a son of Moses A. and Martha Washington Polk Shelby. I don't have any proof either. As you can see by the 1850 census below, they were neighbors living in the 3rd Civil district. Martha, who has married Samuel Wells, and Charles were next-door neighbors in the 1840 census. We know Thomas D. Shelby was a son because of court records and deeds, but I have found nothing to tie Charles to Moses, Thomas D. or Martha. David 1850 CENSUS HARDIN CO., TN 7-7 Thomas D. Shelby 37 NC 3rd CD Virginia A. 29 TN Thomas J. 8 TN George M. 6 TN Martha A. C. 2 TN 13-13 Charles A. Shelby 38 NC Nancy 23 AL Mary A. 3 TN Reese A. 9/12 TN 23-23 Martha B. Wells 55 NC Moses M. Shelby 24 NC Elizabeth J. 16 TN ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article David, Thank you for the information re: the Historian. I am connected to the Shelby's though my husband. His mother was Flora Juanita Shelby. Her father was Lillian Helton Shelby. His father was William Robert Shelby. His father was Charles A. Shelby. Then it gets confusing. I've been told Charles' father was Moses Shelby but can't find the proof. I feel he's connected somehow, just don't know how. Will keep looking and collecting what I can on the Shelbys. Thanks alot, Pam

I'm seeking information on the descendants of my great-great aunt, Sarah J. (BAKER) DAVIS and her husband McCord W. DAVIS. Here are a few of their descendants. If you or someone you know are related to these folks, I'd sure like to hear from you. Tom Evans [email protected] (1) 1 McCord W. DAVIS ———————————— Birth: 1 Nov 1833, Maury Co., TN Death: 9 Jun 1924, Madison Co., TN Burial: Madison Co., TN Father: Joseph H. DAVIS (1805-1883) Mother: Harriet PERRY (1811-1896) Spouse: Sarah J. BAKER Birth: 1840, Wayne Co., TN Death: 22 Jul 1886, Hardin Co., TN Burial: Baker Cem., Wayne Co., TN Father: Solomon Hardy BAKER (1811-1867) Mother: Isabella J. ALLISON (1815-1900) Marr: 28 Oct 1858, Hardin Co., TN Children: Harriett Isabell (1860-1946) Mary E. (1868-) Robert M. William Nathan James Ann Cora A. (1874-) Sarah Josie (1874-) Other spouses: (Unknown) PORTER (2) 1.1 Harriett Isabell DAVIS ———————————— Birth: 5 Mar 1860, Hardin Co., TN Death: 28 Jul 1946, Waynesboro, Wayne Co., TN Burial: Greenwood Cem., Waynesboro, Wayne Co., TN Spouse: Thomas Kerr HURST Birth: 18 Dec 1842, Hardin Co., TN Death: 19 Jul 1930, Waynesboro, Wayne Co., TN Burial: Greenwood Cem., Waynesboro, Wayne Co., TN Father: Sterling C. HURST (~1816-1909) Mother: Margaret Matilda KERR (1817-1883) Marr: 6 Dec 1883, Hardin Co., TN Children: Mack (~1884-~1884) Sarah Tennessee (1885-1885) Thomas McCord Sterling (1886-1888) Fielding Baker (1887-1955) Hiram Springer (1890-1951) Franklin Kerr Taylor (1895-) Hattie Corrinne (1897-1984) James Nelus (1902-1994) (2) 1.2 Mary E. DAVIS ———————————— Birth: 1868, TN (2) 1.3 Robert M. DAVIS ———————————— (2) 1.4 William Nathan DAVIS ———————————— (2) 1.5 James DAVIS ———————————— (2) 1.6 Ann DAVIS ———————————— (2) 1.7a Cora A. DAVIS* ———————————— Birth: 1874, TN Spouse: Nate POLK Children: Nate Other spouses: (Unknown) WALKER (2) 1.7b Cora A. DAVIS* (See above) ———————————— Spouse: (Unknown) WALKER Children: Albert M. H. Sanders Other spouses: Nate POLK (2) 1.8 Sarah Josie DAVIS ———————————— Birth: 23 Mar 1874, Hardin Co., TN Death: Jackson, TN Spouse: A. SMITH Children: Lewis Sarah Index ALLISON Isabella J. parent of spouse of (1) 1 BAKER Sarah J. spouse of (1) 1 Solomon Hardy parent of spouse of (1) 1 DAVIS Ann (2) 1.6 Cora A. (2) 1.7a Harriett Isabell (2) 1.1 James (2) 1.5 Joseph H. parent of (1) 1 Mary E. (2) 1.2 McCord W. (1) 1 Robert M. (2) 1.3 Sarah Josie (2) 1.8 William Nathan (2) 1.4 HURST Fielding Baker child of (2) 1.1 Franklin Kerr Taylor child of (2) 1.1 Hattie Corrinne child of (2) 1.1 Hiram Springer child of (2) 1.1 James Nelus child of (2) 1.1 Mack child of (2) 1.1 Sarah Tennessee child of (2) 1.1 Sterling C. parent of spouse of (2) 1.1 Thomas Kerr spouse of (2) 1.1 Thomas McCord Sterling child of (2) 1.1 KERR Margaret Matilda parent of spouse of (2) 1.1 PERRY Harriet parent of (1) 1 POLK Nate spouse of (2) 1.7a Nate , Jr. child of (2) 1.7a SMITH A. spouse of (2) 1.8 Lewis child of (2) 1.8 Sarah child of (2) 1.8 WALKER Albert child of (2) 1.7b M. H. child of (2) 1.7b Sanders child of (2) 1.7b (Unknown) spouse of (2) 1.7b

Hello Mr. Cagle, Could you please advise which Historical society of which you make reference to below?Most of my grandfather's side (surname Street) lived in Hardin County TN. during the late 1800's. Thank you, Suzy Street ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > Pam, > You can reach Ronney Brewington at: [email protected] > > Ronney can provide you with a copy of the Historian, however for 20 bucks > you can join the Historical society for one year and receive two issues of > the Historian. There are usually many good articles about Hardin County and > its people. > > I would be interested to know your Shelby connection. > David

Hello List, I just confirmed that the surname VESTERMAN/FESPERMAN/etc where in TN by 1840. From what I can tell this name did not hit the census....in TN. But 1880 census tells me there were parents of this name born in TN. Is there ANYONE who has seen this surname while doing their own research.... The VESTERMAN/FESPERMAN I need come from-NC (1800+-). In TN. after 1810. Thanks, Dolores Andrews Vesterman/Fesperman,Winchester

Pam, You can reach Ronney Brewington at: [email protected] Ronney can provide you with a copy of the Historian, however for 20 bucks you can join the Historical society for one year and receive two issues of the Historian. There are usually many good articles about Hardin County and its people. I would be interested to know your Shelby connection. David ---- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 9:13 PM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > Could someone tell me please how I can get a copy of the 2004 Historian > article that David Cagle is writing or has written? I am interested in the Shelby > line. > > Thank you, > Pam > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > >

Could someone tell me please how I can get a copy of the 2004 Historian article that David Cagle is writing or has written? I am interested in the Shelby line. Thank you, Pam

Regarding: Recreation in Hardin Co., TN A very good place to eat is the Whorley Bird Cafe (hope I spelled it right). Their lunches are good, but their desserts are delicious- worth the drive. Savannah also has a walking trail- can obtain booklet from the Chamber of Commerce- which tours ante-bellum homes such as Cherry Mansion; Trail of Tears overlook; and Alex Haley's grave. Of course, Shiloh is very close and admission to Shiloh always provides admission to the Savannah Museum. If you like the civil war, Brice's Crossroads isn't too far in Baldywin, MS. They have nice little museum and great walking trails. Tupelo, which is not far at all, has Elvis Presley's birthplace, Natchez Trace museum; and a couple other museums. Florence, AL has a lot of museums and things to do as well as wonderful shopping. A great day trip is to Huntsville, AL to the Space Museum. Huntsville also has great library for the genealogy fans as well as other attractions. Hope you have a great trip to Hardin Co. and surrounding area. Margaret

The below article can be found at http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040402/NEWS/404020331/1011/NEWS01. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ------ Civil War demonstrations to highlight 142nd anniversary of Battle of Shiloh By Tom Smith Regional Bureau PITTSBURG LANDING, Tenn. - The sun glistens off the cold, black, steel cannon barrel. Streaks of sunlight finger through a light fog lifting off the Tennessee River. A soft breeze whispers through the trees, breathing life into the hallowed grounds of one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War. The Battle of Shiloh was the first major battle in the Western Theater of the Civil War, taking place April 6 and April 7, 1862. Records indicate the two-day battle involved about 65,000 Union and 44,000 Confederate troops, with a total of 24,000 being killed or wounded. Historians say the battle proved to be a decisive victory for Union forces, as they were able to continue and capture the Confederate railroad system in nearby Corinth, Miss. Saturday and Sunday, this piece of history will once again come alive as Shiloh National Military Park hosts an event marking the 142nd anniversary of the battle. The weekend will feature a living history camp, demonstrations and exhibits for the public. Shiloh Military Park Ranger Joe Davis said park officials expect approximately 20,000 visitors to come to the park for the weekend. "And then, we'll have at least 250 re-enactors here participating in the living history demonstrations,'' Davis said. "Some will drive six to seven hours to get here. They'll come in Friday, set up and be ready to go Saturday morning.'' The demonstrations will include presentations by Confederate infantry, artillery and cavalry. Davis said the re-enactors will be firing rifled-muskets, small arms and cannons. Muscle Shoals resident Keith Willingham has been participating in the Shiloh event since 1982. "Shiloh is sacred ground; it's such a treat to get a chance to go there and relive history,'' said Willingham, who helps coordinate the infantry unit. Willingham said there will be 100 infantry soldiers at Shiloh this weekend. "We'll have some from Indiana, Illinois, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina and Florida, as well as Tennessee,'' he said. "Last year, we had some from Australia, and it's not uncommon to get a group from Germany.'' Willingham said he considers himself a living historian, not a re-enactor. "We try to keep accurate history alive,'' he explained. "When we tell people about the infantry, we're speaking for men who can't speak for themselves. We do a lot of studying to make sure our presentations are accurate.'' Willingham said all of the living historians love history. "This is a hobby, but we take it serious because we're trying to pass our history along,'' he said. "Our goal is to present the public with a true picture of what life was like in the Civil War. "We're on display; we're not trying to be a part of history, we're just trying to preserve it.'' Besides the demonstrations, Davis said there will also be living history camps set up for the public to visit. Davis said visitors would be able to see how the camps were set up and equipped. Besides a Confederate camp, Davis said there will also be a Union camp on display this year. "These camps allow the public a chance to interact with the soldiers and get a better look at camp life during the war,'' he said. "It's our goal that the visitors who come to the park will leave with a better understanding of the Battle of Shiloh and the soldiers that fought and died here.'' Tom Smith can be reached at 332-0140 or [email protected] WANT TO GO? What: 142nd anniversary of the Battle of Shiloh When: Saturday and Sunday, 8 a.m.-5 p.m. Where: Shiloh National Military Park Admission: $3 per person or $5 per family Details: (731) 689-5275 or visit www.nps.gov/shil Directions to park: From Florence, take Alabama 20 to U.S. 64 in Savannah, Tenn. Turn left on U.S. 64 and go 4 miles. Turn left on Tennessee 22, which runs in front of the Shiloh National Battlefield. From Iuka, Miss., take U.S. 72 into Iuka and turn right on Mississippi 25. At the four-way stop at Pickwick Dam, turn left on Tennessee 57, then right on Tennessee 142, which merges with Tennessee 22. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc

For the ones wanting to go shopping, Corinth, Miss., which is around 20-25 miles from Pickwick has quiet a few nice places to shop. Also, Florence, Alabama, (traveling from Pickwick via Iuka, Miss.) would be around 50 miles away, and you can shop till you drop there. A good place to shop! In Savannah, The Tennessee River Museum, has very nice exhibits, & souvenirs. Cost is $2.00. Hours are 8am-5pm. As far as renting boats, jet skis, etc., I found the following information: Pickwick Outdoors, Inc 1-877-214-4924, Complete services for all recreational plans- lodging, fishing golfing, camping, and boat rentals. www.pickwickoutdoors.com The Dock Shop 8795 Hwy. 57 S., Pickwick, TN 38365, (731) 689-5700. Open May through September. Pontoon rentals. Indian Creek Canoe and Tube Rental (731) 689-3800. Overnight camping with electrical hookups. Canoe and kayak rentals. Variety of canoe/kayak trips available for groups of all sizes and ages Pickwick Boat Rentals, Inc. 7380 Hwy. 57, Counce, TN 38326, (731) 689-5359, additional information. Pontoon and ski boat rentals available at Pickwick Landing State Resort Park. www.marinesales.com Aqua Yacht Harbor 3832 Hwy. 25 N., Iuka, MS 38852, 662-423-2222. Luxury houseboat rentals. www.aquayachtharbor.com. Other items of interest : Crump Flea Market, Crump, Tenn. ( just across the Savannah Bridge) open on weekends. Savannah Bowling Center Southgate Cinema ( just remodeled & reopened) Buford Pusser Museum(sheriff of McNairy Co., Walking Tall movie) Adamsville, Tn. --10 mi. from Savannah. Pusser Restaurant (owned by Buford's daughter) in Adamsville is a good place to eat, plus view all the memoranda of the legendry sheriff You can alway contact the listing below. Team Hardin County 507 Main St. Savannah, TN 38372 1-800-552-3866 or 1-731-925-8181 [email protected] Hope you can use some of this information. Janey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry W. Murphy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Need Reunion Recreation in Hardin Co > Some the group might want to check out the flea market at Ripley, > Mississippi on Labor Day Weekend. It's my understanding the market will be > open Saturday, Sunday and Monday on that holiday. A website for it is > http://www.fleamarketguide.com/ms.htm#Ripley. > > Others with an interest in history and the Civil War might want to tour > Shiloh National Military Park http://www.nps.gov/shil/ which is near > Savannah. > > The Horseshoe Bend Festival at Clifton, Tennessee is that weekend (Sept 4 & > 5). Unfortunately at this time the City of Clifton's website only has info > for last year's festival at > http://www.cityofclifton.com/horseshoe_bend_festival.asp . I'm guessing > it'll be updated before September. :-) > > I'm not very familiar with Savannah these days so perhaps others can offer > more ideas. > > Jerry W. Murphy > [email protected] > Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ > Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L > BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L > Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne > Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "S Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:16 AM > Subject: [TNHARDIN] Need Reunion Recreation in Hardin Co > > > > > > Can anyone suggest recreation in and around Pickwick? > > > > We are having a reunion Labor Day weekend and the travelers are lodging at > > Pickwick. > > > > Some of the individuals in our group are disappointed because we cannot > find > > jet skis to rent. > > > > Also, another family said they would rather go to the Ozarks because there > > is more to do. > > > > Is there anything outside of Pickwick for recreation? Any shooting > ranges? > > Go karts? Shopping? etc? > > > > Thanks bunches for your help! > > > > Sandra > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet > > access. > > https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > > > > > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > >

This message apparently didn't make it to the list so I'm forwarding it. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> To: "Shelby, Paul" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > Paul, > I think Moses Witherspoon was too old to be a soldier in the Civil War. He > was age 48 in 1850 and had 4 daughters. > 1850 Census, Hardin Co.,TN > 108-108 Moses C. Wetherspoon 48 TN farmer 4th C. D. > Elizabeth 52 TN > Margaret E. 23 AL > Sarah 20 IN > Hetty E. 18 IN > Martha 14 IN > > Note that Moses was in Alabama in 1827 and then spent several years in > Indiana where his last three daughters were born, your ancestor Sarah being > one of them. 1860 finds him living in the 13th C. D. with his wife as well > as Margaret and Martha still at home. Moses Shelby lives nearby with his > wife Sarah and two children. > > >From Tennessee there were no Witherspoons in the Federal Army, however there > was a Henry Wetherspoon who was black. There were several Witherspoons in > the Confederate Army. > > I note that Moses was shown as George W. Shelby in the 1870 census. Was > that part of his name also? > > I checked the Harmony Church Book and the last mention I find of Moses C. > Witherspoon on the 8th of April 1854. > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shelby, Paul" <[email protected]> > To: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:50 PM > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > David, > > Hope you are doing O.K. Ronney sent me some of the Hardin County > Historical Society publications that had the Harmony Church records in them > and I have been perusing through them. One of the elders was Moses C. > Witherspoon who was the father-in-law of my great-great grandfather Moses W. > Shelby. Do you know anything about Moses Witherspoon? Did he leave Harmony > Church with Thomas D. Shelby to form Union Valley? Do you know what ever > happened to him? I looked through the web and found a Moses C. Witherspoon > mentioned in an Indiana unit during the civil war but I'm not convenced its > the same guy. Do you have any thoughts? Also, I may have asked you this > before but do you know much about the Shady Grove Church and cemetery near > Sardis? I believe that Moses W. Shelby and some of his family are buried > there but are only designated by blank sandstone markers. Are there any > articles that anyone has done on the church and cemetery? I would like to > get a copy if there is. Thanks. > > Paul Shelby > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wed 3/3/2004 9:02 PM > > To: Shelby, Paul > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > Paul, > > I got the information. Thanks very much. H. Cagle was great uncle Henry. > > However that Charles Cagle was not his brother, my g/grandfather. > > > > My g/grandfather was in the First Confederate Cavalry. It was originally > > established by Gen. A. S. Johnston immediately before the battle of > Shiloh, > > but the outfit did not fight as a unit in that Battle. The unit was built > > around 4 KY companies by adding 4 Tennessee companies and two from AL. > The > > two from AL were soon replaced with two more from TN. > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Shelby, Paul <[email protected]> > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:46 AM > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > David, > > > I mailed the muster papers to you this past Friday. Did you get them > > O.K.? > > > Paul > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Fri 1/23/2004 7:22 PM > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > Cc: > > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > My address is: 95 Court Street > > > Savannah, TN 38372 > > > > > > That will get me. Doesn't sound like my Charley Cagle. > > > Thanks, > > > David > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Shelby, Paul <[email protected]> > > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:35 PM > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > I have the muster papers for Henry Cagle but the only Cagle I saw of > > > Tennessee civil war soldiers was a Charles Cagle of the 4th Tennessee > > > Cavalry CSA. Is this the right guy? Did Charles muster in in another > > > state? Did he reside in TN after the war? I got something on this guy > as > > > well but I'm not sure he is your relative. Could you e-mail me your > > address > > > and I will mail them to you. Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Mon 1/5/2004 8:29 PM > > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > > Cc: > > > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > Charley in was the First Confederate Cavalry. He received a pension > > from > > > > the State of Tennessee beginning in 1928 until he died in 1930. > > > > David > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Shelby, Paul <[email protected]> > > > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:31 AM > > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > Hope you and your family had a good holiday. We had a good visit > with > > > our > > > > families. I've got about a week and a half before the spring semester > > > > starts and I'm going to try to get up to the East Tennessee Historical > > > > Society and while I'm there I'll see what I can dig up on your > > relatives. > > > > You said that you have the pension application for your great great > > > > grandfather Charles. I know that Henry was a confederate but does > that > > > mean > > > > that Charles was in the Union army? I didn't think that former > > > confederates > > > > were eligable to recieve a government pension, were they? It wouldn't > > be > > > > the first incedent of brothers joining opposite sides considering the > > > > divided sentiments of the county. At any rate, I can look up their > > units > > > > and get copies of their muster papers. Also, I my grandfather had > > written > > > > down that Dollie married Will Smith in 1880. I suspect that "Dollie" > > was > > > > probably Margaret E. Shelby since she was born in 1863 and that would > > mean > > > > that she was 17 or 18 years old at the time she was married. Her > sister > > > > Sarah (b. 1865) would have been about 15 in 1880, however, it was not > > out > > > of > > > > the question for girls that young to get married back then. > > Nevertheless, > > > I > > > > would still like to have some documentation to varify who Dollie > > actually > > > > was. I'm not sure of the month that they were married or if they > would > > > > appear together in the 1880 census. Anyway, I would appreciate > anything > > > you > > > > could provide. Take care. > > > > > Paul Shelby > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Fri 12/19/2003 7:50 PM > > > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > I would appreciate anything you can find on Henry Overton Cagle or > his > > > > > brother, my g/g/grandfather, Charles Talley Cagle. They both > survived > > > the > > > > > Civil War. I have the pension Application for Charles, but little > on > > > > Henry. > > > > > > > > > > I will be happy to look at the marriage records if you can give me > an > > > > > approximate date for Will and Dolly Shelby Smith. > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Shelby, Paul <[email protected]> > > > > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:39 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > I had opportunity to swing by the campus to check my messages one > > last > > > > > time before the holidays and got your message and thought I would > get > > > back > > > > > in touch. Do you need muster papers for your great uncle Henry > Cagle? > > > I > > > > am > > > > > making plans to spend a day at the East Tennessee Historical Society > > > when > > > > we > > > > > get back from the Christmas holidays and I'll get them to make some > > > copies > > > > > that I can mail you if you like. The stuff you sent me about Martha > > W. > > > > Polk > > > > > was interesting. She apparently did not let any grass grow under > her > > > feet > > > > > after her first husband, Moses A. Shelby died. I guess in that day > it > > > was > > > > > in her best interest to stay married. The possibility of her > marrying > > > > John > > > > > Moore is particularly interesting and some more fodder for more > > > research. > > > > > She is listed as Martha B. Moore and Martha B. Wells. Where do you > > > think > > > > > the B. came from? Was it a missunderstanding of the census taker > > since > > > > "B" > > > > > and "P" (for Polk I guess) sound similar? > > > > > > > > > > > > There is one matter that I wonder if you could shed some light on > > that > > > > has > > > > > had family members perplexed for some time. My great great > > grandfather > > > > was > > > > > Moses W. Shelby (a.k.a. George W. Shelby). He married Sarah > > Witherspoon > > > > and > > > > > had several children the oldest of which was my great grand father > > > William > > > > > C. Shelby. William C. had two sisters I believe named Sarah and > > > Margaret > > > > > but my granddad knew them only as his aunts Siss and Dollie. He > said > > > that > > > > > his aunt Dollie married a Will Smith in Hardin County but I cannot > > find > > > > any > > > > > marriage records. I don't know if Dollie is Sarah or Margaret. The > > > other > > > > > sister never married and is believed by the family to burried at the > > > Shady > > > > > Grove Cemertery with her family. Would you happen to know or have > any > > > > > information on who Will Smith married (Will Smith seems like such a > > > common > > > > > name)? Any help you could provide would be appreciated as always. > > If > > > I > > > > > don't talk to you again before the holidays, Merry Christmas to you > > and > > > > your > > > > > family. > > > > > > Paul Shelby > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > Sent: Tue 12/16/2003 8:34 PM > > > > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > > > > Cc: Ronney R. Brewington > > > > > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > Thanks for your help. I have Tony's book as well as "Tennesseans > in > > > the > > > > > > Civil War." But, there is still not much there on Phillips' Light > > > > > > Artillery. Great Uncle Henry didn't leave anything along those > > lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1850 Census, Hardin Co., TN > > > > > > 117 116 Elizabeth Gilbert 55 NC 6th C. D. > > > > > > Pleasant N. 18 TN > > > > > > Margaret B. 12 TN > > > > > > James H. 25 TN > > > > > > John Matheney 18 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what the difference was between Thomas D Shelby and > > > > > Pleasant > > > > > > Gilbert. I find only one other record of Gilbert. He was listed > as > > > > > > released from paying Taxes for the years 1855 and 1856 which means > > he > > > > > > probably no longer lived in the county. I didn't find him in > 1860. > > > > > > > > > > > > "The Polks of North Carolina and Tennessee" by Mrs. Frank M. > > > Angellotti, > > > > > > shows that Martha Washington Polk, 04 May 1794, the daughter of > > Capt. > > > > > > Charles T. Polk and 2nd wife Pholopena Helms, married Moses Shelby > > and > > > > > moved > > > > > > to Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > I know from Hardin County records that Moses A. Shelby, was the > > father > > > > of > > > > > > Thomas D. Shelby, Moses W. Shelby, Sarah Ann Shelby, > > Mary > > > > > Amanda > > > > > > Shelby and Elizabeth J. Shelby. > > > > > > > > > > > > Charles A. Shelby was a neighbor to Martha and Thomas D. Shelby > but > > I > > > > have > > > > > > no proof that they are kin. In the 1840 census of Hardin County, > > > Samuel > > > > > > Wells and Charles Shelby are living side by side. This doesn't > > prove > > > > > > anything other than they were neighbors with the Shelby's. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1840 Census, Hardin Co., TN > > > > > > Samuel Wells 001000001-0131001 census page 438-5, 3rd C. D > > > > > > Charles Shelby 00001-0001 census page 438-6, 3rd C. D. > > > > > > Lydia Basye 211110001-0211001 census page 441, 3rd C. D.(Thomas > > > married > > > > > > Virginia Basye, dau of Lydia) > > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas D. Shelby and Samuel Wells were appointed administrators of > > the > > > > > > estate of James T. Basey on 06 July 1840. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1850 Census Hardin Co., TN 3rd Civil District > > > > > > 7-7 Thomas D. Shelby 37 NC 3rd CD > > > > > > Virginia A. 29 TN > > > > > > Thomas J. 8 TN > > > > > > George M. 6 TN > > > > > > Martha A. C. 2 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > 13-13 Charles A. Shelby 38 NC > > > > > > Nancy 23 AL > > > > > > Mary A. 3 TN > > > > > > Reese A. 9-12 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > 23-23 Martha B. Wells 55 NC > > > > > > Moses W. Shelby 24 NC > > > > > > Elizabeth J. 16 TN > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note in the 1850 census above, that the two children of > > Martha > > > B. > > > > > > Wells are listed at Moses W. Shelby and Elizabeth J. Shelby who we > > > know > > > > > are > > > > > > children of Moses A. Shelby who died in 1834. I cannot explain > the > > > > > > difference between Martha Washington Shelby and Martha B. Wells, > > > > however, > > > > > > Martha could easily have married a Moore after Samuel Wells died? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Harmony Church Book shows that Thomas D. Shelby and Martha B. > > > Wells > > > > > were > > > > > > members of the church when it started in 1852. Martha B. Wells > > > married > > > > > > William H. Shelby on 18 October 1854. William Shelby died 30 > April > > > > 1863. > > > > > > > > > > > > Following is a note that I got from Johnnie Johnson: > > > > > > > > > > > > I for certain know she (Martha) married 18 Oct. 1854 to my William > > H. > > > > > > Shelby in Hardin Co. TN Third district...source is a deed from Wm > H. > > > > > Shelby > > > > > > to her son M.W. Shelby for a deed of gift in 1855 Jan 17. where he > > > calls > > > > > him > > > > > > "my stepson"... > > > > > > source: McNairy Co. Deed Bk E p494. > > > > > > > > > > > > In 1850, there is a John Moore and family living next door to > Lydia > > > > Basey > > > > > > and Thomas D. Shelby? The plot thickens? If Martha married John > > > Moore, > > > > > it > > > > > > would have to be between 1850 and 8154, Anything is possible I > > guess? > > > > > > > > > > > > Those two churches you mentioned have been out of business for > more > > > than > > > > > 100 > > > > > > years. I think most of the records are available from the Hardin > > > County > > > > > > Historical Society in pass issues of the Historian magazine. You > > > might > > > > > > contact Ronney Brewington. > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Shelby, Paul <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:52 AM > > > > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > I went back through my stuff and found an article that I copied > > from > > > > the > > > > > > East Tennessee Historical Society on Phillip's Artillery. I > copied > > > > this > > > > > > from a work by Tony Hays called "No Man's Land". In it he gives a > > > brief > > > > > > regimental history. The company was organized on Oct 15, 1861, > > > assigned > > > > > to > > > > > > Gen. Rueben Davis at Bowling Green, KY in Dec. 1861, under Maj. > Gen. > > > > > > Hardee's command in Dec. 1862 and Jan. 1863 at battle of > > Murfreesboro > > > > > > (Stones River), under Gen. Joseph Johnston at Vicksburg, then at > > > > > > Chickamauga, Missionary Ridge, and also took part in the battles > of > > > > > Franklin > > > > > > and Nashville. It was paroled on May 10, 1865 at Meridian, MS. > In > > > this > > > > > > book there is a company roster in which along with T.J. Shelby > there > > > is > > > > > > listed a pvt. H. Cagle. I'm assuming this is your great uncle > Henry > > > > > Overton > > > > > > Cagle. If he died in 1899 as you say, then he took part in some > of > > > the > > > > > most > > > > > > significant battles in the western theatre of the war. If you > need > > > > copies > > > > > > of his muster papers let me know. There may be quite a few and > may > > > have > > > > > > some interesting information on them. Hays' regimental history > was > > > very > > > > > > brief. I'll see if I can find one that is more comprehensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I had some other questions for you. Do you know the > > > > relationship > > > > > > between Plesant Gilbert and Thomas D. Shelby? Were they > neighbors? > > > Did > > > > > > they attend the same chruch? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In your article you mentioned that after Moses A. Shelby died, > his > > > > wife > > > > > > Martha married Sammuel Wells and after he died she married a > distant > > > > > cousin > > > > > > of Moses A. who was I believe you said to be William H. Shelby. > Do > > > you > > > > > have > > > > > > documentation for this that you could share with me? I have a > copy > > of > > > a > > > > > > family history from another Shelby from Hardin County who was a > > > > decendant > > > > > of > > > > > > Eli Shelby (buried in Shelby or Cherry cemetery in Lowryville) and > > in > > > it > > > > > he > > > > > > states that William H. (who apparently was a brother of Eli) > married > > > > > Martha > > > > > > B. Moore (his second wife) sometime in the 1850's. Can you shed > > some > > > > > light > > > > > > on this? I'm not sure where he got his info but it was pretty > > > detailed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Do you think the Harmony Church and Union Valley Church > > would > > > > > share > > > > > > church records with me? Do they have an e-mail address? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if I am going to be back to this office again this > > week > > > > or > > > > > > not to check my e-mails. We are planning to visit our families in > > > > > Jackson, > > > > > > TN over the holidays and I may not be able check my e-mails until > > > after > > > > we > > > > > > get back so if I don't get to talk to you before then, have a > merry > > > > > > Christmas with your family and I'll talk to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul Shelby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > > Sent: Tue 12/9/2003 11:07 PM > > > > > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > > > > > Cc: Ronney R. Brewington > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > > I have stuck a few answers, as far as I know, between the > > questions > > > > you > > > > > > had > > > > > > > for Ronney. See below. I will be glad to help any way I can. > > > Email > > > > me > > > > > > any > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Ronney R. Brewington <[email protected]> > > > > > > > To: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:40 AM > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > Here are some questions that Paul Shelby has on the Thomas D. > > > Shelby > > > > > > > article. Can you answer some of these? I sent Paul a copy of the > > > > article > > > > > > for > > > > > > > his comments. He is supposed to be getting some more information > > > > > together. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe he would like to e-mail with you on this family. > > Contact > > > > him > > > > > > if > > > > > > > you have time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Freeda Bridges e-mailed me back and is going to send me her > > > cemetery > > > > > > > information. Thanks for this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Shelby, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:42 PM > > > > > > > > To: Ronney R. Brewington > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronney, > > > > > > > > I was going over the info you sent me from David Cagle. It > was > > > very > > > > > > > interesting and answered a lot of questions. The family has > past > > > down > > > > a > > > > > > > story about someone killing a man an leaving the state but no > one > > > knew > > > > > any > > > > > > > details. The info you sent me answered the question but also > > raised > > > > > more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Thomas D. Shelby shot and killed Pleasant Gilbert and then > > > fled > > > > to > > > > > > > Alabama. Was there any record of what the dispute was about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not seen any reason why Thomas D. shot Pleasant Gilbert. > > My > > > > best > > > > > > > guess is consumption of alcohol. the church book record > explains > > > > > Thomas' > > > > > > > condition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Does David have any info on Thomas' older brother Charles > A. > > > > > Shelby? > > > > > > > Charles left Hardin county about the same time as Thomas. The > > > census > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > that Charles' wife Nancy was from Alabama. Maybe Thomas stayed > > with > > > > his > > > > > > > sister-in-law's people in Alabama. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CHARLES A. SHELBY was born 15 August 1811, and died 15 October > > 1868 > > > in > > > > > > > Hardin County Tennessee. He married NANCY SLOAN 17 January 1847. > > She > > > > was > > > > > > > born 24 January 1824, and died 30 January 1911 in Hardin County > > > > > Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Does David have any info on where Charles and Thomas are > > > buried? > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > the grave site of their parents Moses A. and Martha Polk Shelby? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moses A. Shelby, d. 1834 could have been buried in the Basye > > > Cemetery > > > > > > which > > > > > > > was near where his land was. Most of the early Shelbys in the > > Cerro > > > > > Gordo > > > > > > > area are likely buried at Harmony Cemetery. Thomas D., his > > mother, > > > > and > > > > > > > others in the family were going to church there between 1852 and > > > 1861. > > > > > > > After 1861, a cemetery was established at Union Valley Church > > which > > > > was > > > > > > > about 3 or 4 miles south of Harmony on Thomas' land. In 1860, > > > Charles > > > > > A. > > > > > > > Shelby lived in the Cross Roads - Swift area and could have been > > > > buried > > > > > in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > Cemetery in that area. Some of his descendents are buried at > > Goshen > > > > and > > > > > > > some at Mountain View and probably some at Harmony? Thomas D. > > > Shelby > > > > > is > > > > > > > probably buried near Selma in Dallas Co., AL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Does David have any info on the occupants of the Shady > Grove > > > > > Church > > > > > > > cemetery near Sardis? My great-great grandfather and family > > members > > > > are > > > > > > > apparently buried there according to other family members. > Their > > > > graves > > > > > > are > > > > > > > marked only with slabs of sandstone with no inscriptions. My > > > > > great-great > > > > > > > grandfather was the youngest son of Moses A. and Martha Polk > > Shelby. > > > > > His > > > > > > > name was Moses W. Shelby and according to later census went by > the > > > > name > > > > > of > > > > > > > George W. Shelby. He married Sarah Witherspoon who was a > daughter > > > of > > > > > > Moses > > > > > > > C. and Elizabeth Gibson Witherspoon. Does David know where > there > > > home > > > > > > sites > > > > > > > were? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no Shelbys listed as buried in Shady Grove Cemetery. > In > > > > 1860 > > > > > > and > > > > > > > 1880, he is listed as Moses W. Shelby. The 1870 transcribed > > census > > > > > that > > > > > > I > > > > > > > have lists him as George W. Shelby--apparently an error. I can > > > > probably > > > > > > > figure out where they lived by checking land records. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a lot more questions but will stop with these. Please > > > asure > > > > > > David > > > > > > > that I will keep all info he sends me confidential. Thanks once > > > again > > > > > for > > > > > > > the info. I was very excited to see it. David mentioned in his > > > > article > > > > > > > that Thomas had a son that joined the confederacy. He may > already > > > > know > > > > > > this > > > > > > > but his name was Thomas J. Shelby (I believe I have a copy of > his > > > > muster > > > > > > > papers stuck back somewhere) he was a private in Phillip's Light > > > > > Artillery > > > > > > > Company of Capt. Eldridge E. Wright's Tennessee Battery and was > > > killed > > > > > at > > > > > > > the battle of Stones River. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great uncle Henry Overton Cagle, 1842-1899, was also in > Phillips' > > > > Light > > > > > > > Artillery Co. I did not know that Thomas J. Shelby was killed > at > > > > > Stones > > > > > > > River. I would appreciate any information you would share on > that > > > > > outfit. > > > > > > > I'll be happy to answer any questions I can. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If he wants to compare notes some time, have him e-mail me or > > call > > > > me. > > > > > > I > > > > > > > would love to talk with him sometime. If I can be any further > > > service > > > > > to > > > > > > > you and your historical society, please don't hesitate to > contact > > > me. > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Ronney R. Brewington [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Fri 12/5/2003 11:20 AM > > > > > > > > To: Shelby, Paul > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > > > Subject: Thomas D. Shelby Article > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul, > > > > > > > > Attached is a copy (PDF file) of the Shelby information that > > David > > > > > Cagle > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > written for the Jan-June 2004 Historian. Read it over and see > > what > > > > you > > > > > > > > think. Do not send copies to anyone until a finalized copy is > > > > > available > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > David may make some changes. Any information you have on this, > I > > > can > > > > > add > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > you care to do that. Do you have a family group sheet or > lineage > > > > chart > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > Thomas D. Shelby family? I can use this to go along with the > > > > article. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I will try to gather all information on Col. James > Hardin > > > for > > > > an > > > > > > > > article to appear in this issue of the Historian. I have > > excerpts > > > > from > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the histories of the county and will compile that information > > > along > > > > > with > > > > > > > > anything else I can get. David Cagle has been trying to get > any > > > > > military > > > > > > > > records of James Hardin but has not had much luck yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along with the Col. James Hardin information, I would like to > > > > include > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > photo of Col. Joseph Hardin's tombstone along with inscription > > > > printed > > > > > > > out. > > > > > > > > I will give you credit for the photograph, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ronney Brewington > > > > > > > > Editor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Some the group might want to check out the flea market at Ripley, Mississippi on Labor Day Weekend. It's my understanding the market will be open Saturday, Sunday and Monday on that holiday. A website for it is http://www.fleamarketguide.com/ms.htm#Ripley. Others with an interest in history and the Civil War might want to tour Shiloh National Military Park http://www.nps.gov/shil/ which is near Savannah. The Horseshoe Bend Festival at Clifton, Tennessee is that weekend (Sept 4 & 5). Unfortunately at this time the City of Clifton's website only has info for last year's festival at http://www.cityofclifton.com/horseshoe_bend_festival.asp . I'm guessing it'll be updated before September. :-) I'm not very familiar with Savannah these days so perhaps others can offer more ideas. Jerry W. Murphy [email protected] Jerry's Homepage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jwmurphy/ Rootsweb List Administrator: ALFRANKL-L, TNHARDIN-L, TNWASHIN-L, TNWAYNE-L BRATTON-L, CAVENDER-L, COCHRAN-L, HAFLEY-L, PATTERSON-L, SOWERBY-L Wayne County, Tennessee Co-County Coordinator: http://www.netease.net/wayne Wayne County Computer Club: http://www.netease.net/waccc ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:16 AM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Need Reunion Recreation in Hardin Co > > Can anyone suggest recreation in and around Pickwick? > > We are having a reunion Labor Day weekend and the travelers are lodging at > Pickwick. > > Some of the individuals in our group are disappointed because we cannot find > jet skis to rent. > > Also, another family said they would rather go to the Ozarks because there > is more to do. > > Is there anything outside of Pickwick for recreation? Any shooting ranges? > Go karts? Shopping? etc? > > Thanks bunches for your help! > > Sandra > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet > access. > https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > >

Can anyone suggest recreation in and around Pickwick? We are having a reunion Labor Day weekend and the travelers are lodging at Pickwick. Some of the individuals in our group are disappointed because we cannot find jet skis to rent. Also, another family said they would rather go to the Ozarks because there is more to do. Is there anything outside of Pickwick for recreation? Any shooting ranges? Go karts? Shopping? etc? Thanks bunches for your help! Sandra _________________________________________________________________ Find a broadband plan that fits. Great local deals on high-speed Internet access. https://broadband.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/

Will someone tell me why all of a sudden I cannot get to the Hardin Co. Genealogy Site. I have had it bookmarked for ever. Now it will not come up, says it can't be found. I miss getting to it. I rely on it a lot. Please help me., Trecia Hardin Co. researcher, Hitchcock This is what I have always gone to. Hardin County, TN, History Pages

This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1080706296-16291-0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My great grandfather's death certificate 1939 was not registered and is evidently lost. It may have been in Chester County. That's where he is buried. Star _____________________________________________________________ Save rainforest for free with a Planet-Save.com e-mail account: http://www.planet-save.com ------------=_1080706296-16291-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from pmta04.mta.everyone.net (bigip3-snat [216.200.145.27]) by imta28.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B8D50801 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (66.43.18.39 [66.43.18.39]) by pmta04.mta.everyone.net (EON-PMTA) with ESMTP id B6432885; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:12:32 -0800 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id i2V11fbu004505; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:01:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:01:41 -0700 Message-Id: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Subject: TNHARDIN-D Digest V04 #45 X-Loop: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/volume04/45 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain TNHARDIN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 45 Today's Topics: #1 [TNHARDIN] re: Hardin CO. Marriage [linda hendricks <[email protected]] #2 [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and jus [[email protected]] #3 Re: [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and ["David Cagle" <[email protected]] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TNHARDIN-D, send a message to [email protected] that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:15:12 -0800 (PST) From: linda hendricks <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHARDIN] re: Hardin CO. Marriage Records. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found my great grandparents in the Hardin Co. Marriage Index 1859-1887. How do you get those records? I would like to get a copy of the marriage reocrd. It is in Book:3, Page: 380. E.P.Mills married Lewis D. Fowler. Any help or adrresses would be appreciated. Linda Hendricks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:40:06 EST From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and just plain gone Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Didn't Hardin county court house burn down about then and tons of records lost, or am I wrong on the date? Dody I sent a request to the archives in Nashville for a death certificate for 1945 in Hardin Co. I got a response that "record not found for years 1944-1946". Anybody know what happened to these records? ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #3 Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 19:09:10 -0600 From: "David Cagle" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and just plain gone Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Courthouse had burned once, and been on fire another time, But the records are not lost. May be some missing for what ever reason. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and just plain gone > Didn't Hardin county court house burn down about then and tons of records > lost, or am I wrong on the date? > Dody > I sent a request to the archives in Nashville for a death certificate > for 1945 in Hardin Co. I got a response that "record not found for > years 1944-1946". Anybody know what happened to these records? > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > > -------------------------------- End of TNHARDIN-D Digest V04 Issue #45 ************************************** ------------=_1080706296-16291-0--

The Courthouse had burned once, and been on fire another time, But the records are not lost. May be some missing for what ever reason. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:40 AM Subject: [TNHARDIN] Re:records lost and just plain gone > Didn't Hardin county court house burn down about then and tons of records > lost, or am I wrong on the date? > Dody > I sent a request to the archives in Nashville for a death certificate > for 1945 in Hardin Co. I got a response that "record not found for > years 1944-1946". Anybody know what happened to these records? > > > ==== TNHARDIN Mailing List ==== > Visit the Hardin County, Tennessee Genealogy and History Page at > http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/ > >

Didn't Hardin county court house burn down about then and tons of records lost, or am I wrong on the date? Dody I sent a request to the archives in Nashville for a death certificate for 1945 in Hardin Co. I got a response that "record not found for years 1944-1946". Anybody know what happened to these records?

I found my great grandparents in the Hardin Co. Marriage Index 1859-1887. How do you get those records? I would like to get a copy of the marriage reocrd. It is in Book:3, Page: 380. E.P.Mills married Lewis D. Fowler. Any help or adrresses would be appreciated. Linda Hendricks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

This message is being forwarded to the list by the listowner. If you can add something to the message below or wish to contact the person who wrote the message, reply to "Letha" <[email protected]>. Please do not reply to the listowner. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:27 PM Subject: LETHA PARRISH =BROWN > I FOUND YOUR SIGHT. THIS IS FOR HARDIN CTY TENN. MY MOTHER CORA ELIZABETH > HUNT WAS BORN DEC 24,1908 SAVANNAH,TNN. HER PARENTS WAS ANDREW HUNT )M) ELLA > DAVIS. HE GOT KILLED WHEN MY MOM WAS 2 YRS OLD FROM A RUN AWAY TEAM HORES, AND > ELLA TOOK LIZZIE AND MOVE TO FLORENCE,ALABAMA AND LIVE AS BOARDER;S IN HOME OF > WESLEY PARRISH AND NANCY ELIZABETH VINCIENT, I'M. TRYING TO FINE ANYTHING ON > THEM SURE BE APPRECIATED THANK'S LETHA > >

This is my first post to the Lewis List. I am hoping someone knows where Alfred Lewis was living before he moved to Hardin County ca 1880. His occupation suggests that he probably worked at a mill. His neighbor was a mill operator in 1880. I only know of the descendents of Alfred's son, Thomas M. Lewis who married Amanda E., a daughter of Noah Hampton and Mary Jane Mathenia Wade, in the Mountain View-Cross Roads community of Hardin Co., TN. David 1880 Census, Hardin Co., TN 108 Alfred Lewis 50 TN TN TN mechanic 1st C. D. Caldonia 39 TN TN TN William G. 18 TN TN TN Viola H. 12 TN TN TN Samuel H. 9 TN TN TN Thomas M. 5 TN TN TN Mary F. 7/12 TN TN TN

Is anyone researching Chandlers in Hardin Co.? I find a Carolyn Chandler married Alfred B. Baker on Jan. 12, 1897. This marriage is recorded in Bk2, page 323. Does anyone know this family? Ann Baker Ragsdale , descendent of Jacob Baker and Elizabeth Finger Baker, Henry V. Baker and Margaret Nolen Baker, James Harrison Baker and Martha Ann Johnson Baker, William Henry Baker and Odie Seymore Baker. James Harrison moved to Arkansas after Martha Johnson Baker died and is buried in the Johnson Cem., Enville, TN.