According to my 1939 Postal Guide, Flattop was located in Hamilton County. Can someone please tell me where it was located? Thanks, Tim

When I post queries to the Hamilton County site, I try not to do so for any persons who might be living - for privacy reasons. There are enough resources available by traditional methods and/or thru the Internet to find almost anyone, who has a listed phone in the world or by other means of identification. >From time to time, starting today, I'll post to this list only, various requests, that while looking for living persons, don't seem to be looking for parents of adopted persons, looking for dirt on a political candidate (yes, I've had those before), or any other query I find to be not acceptable to this criteria. I'll write each person, as I've done before explaining why I can't or won't post their query. For those I do post, I'd ask that you respond privately to the person whose name and email address will appear with the query. I'll title the note 'Living Person Query' so that they can be identified seperately from your other TNHAMILT email. If you have any questions or comments on this policy, please let me know. Thanks, Tim Stowell list moderator

I Want I want ancestors with names like Rudy Montagnard or Mechiznick Von Steuben or Spetznatz Giafortoni, not Mary Smith or William Johnson. I want ancestors who went to school, could read and write, purchased land, left detailed wills (naming a huge extended family as legatees), had their photographs taken once a year - subsequently putting said pictures in elaborate acid free albums with names, dates, and places. I want relatives who managed to bury their predecessors in established, still-extant (and indexed) cemeteries, with carved voluble and informative inscriptions on their headstones. I want family members who wrote memoirs, kept diaries, enlisted in the military, particularly officers who served in strategically important (and well documented) skirmishes. I want relatives who served as Congressional members, judges, councilmen, school teachers, county clerks, police officers, firefighters. I want relatives who had their children baptized in recognized houses of worship, "religiously" wrote in the family Bible, recording every little event and detailing the familial relationship of every visitor. I want immigrant progenitors to have arrived only in those years wherein passenger lists were indexed by the National Archives, to have applied for citizenship in those jurisdictions which have since established indices. I want relatives who were patriotic and clubby, joined every patrimonial society, kept journals, listed all their addresses, dated every piece of paper they touched and had paintings made of their houses. I want forebears who were wealthy enough to afford, and keep for generations, the tribal homestead and left all the aforementioned pictures, diaries and journals in the library. But most of all I want relatives I can FIND! ------------------------- Source: The Parkhurst Family Journal - Vol. 5, No. 1, Mar, 1999 - used by permission. With this short article, I wish to each and every one of you a blessed Holiday Season. Tim Stowell

Tim once again you have done an excellent job listing all the churches and what material they may contain. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhamilt/churches.htm As you see I have also forwarded this to other folks interested in TN. My question, what has happened to all these valuable documents, that could give us SO MUCH information. for example: in Harrison, the Greenwood Baptist Church list Clyde Burns as the custodian of the records, he has passed away some time ago and who knows where these records are today. any suggestions from the list members on how we could tackle this project and if the records could be found, who would take the responsibility of their custody (the main library in Chattanooga, or UTC library- special collections) or should they go back to the churches?? phebe morgan -- I would take this on but we now live in Sarasota FLA

This evening I've finished the 1942 Church survey of 311 churches in Hamilton County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhamilt/churches.htm Tim

My grannie gave me onions and lemon and water. She cooked the onions in water until they liquidified and then added lemon juice. I know it sounds really gross but it was kindof good. No worse then some of the cough med. today. kellie evelyn sell wrote: > Did anyone else have whiskey and lemon juice mixed > together to be taken from a teaspoon for coughing. Wasn't > this called a Hot toddy.????? > > Also Lemon and Honey together. > Evelyn > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

At 06:07 PM 12/17/00 -0500, Donna Fitzgerald wrote: >Tim, I have only a copy of this page 73 of the 1830 Census - I have a >page or 2 of 1840 and more of 1850. > >Thanks again for all that you do! > >Donna Then please pipe up, when you see something amiss or that I may have misunderstood in reading these records. That goes for the rest of you here also. I don't claim to be 100% correct. I'm just trying to be as accurate as possible. Tim

Tim wrote: > First of all let me say that the writing in this census is atrocius. Even > though my dog doesn't have a good way to grasp a pencil, I feel she could > do just about as good as a job writing these records. You almost have to know who you are looking for to decipher it. Then you have to compare the letters to letters in the names that you know are right. I have a transcription at home of the 1830, 1840, and 1850 Census which has many, many mistakes in it (I have written all over it) - I think it takes a team of about 10 people to decipher these censuses. > > >Line #4 George SAWYER (not SROGET) - if you will look at the "g", it > >is open at the top and is a "y", the "t" is an "r" so it looks more > >like "SROYER" - George Washington SAWYER(S) is my 4th ggrandfather it > >is likely that this is him living next to his relatives by marriage - > >his wife is Mary Victoria THURMAN yet another daughter of Philip > >THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND. > Tim: > My first thought was that this was SROGER. Couldn't you just see the ole guy pronouncing SAWYER as "SROYER"? > > >Line #16 Talton GREEN - I believe this to be Sutton GREEN > > And my conclusion was that it was Fuller GREEN! I don't know of a Sutton GREEN - it was just a guess - it could be Fuller GREEN. > >Line #23 Tandy JACKSON (son of Tandy JACKSON, Sr and Elizabeth > >SMITH) - wife is Margaret SULLINS - I have some information on this > >man and I am very interested in anyone who has more. *****It has been brought to my attention that Tandy JACKSON, Jr. was married to Margaret GENT (Not SULLINS) - daughter of Josiah GENT and Patty SULLINS. Tim, I have only a copy of this page 73 of the 1830 Census - I have a page or 2 of 1840 and more of 1850. Thanks again for all that you do! Donna

Hello List In my days of growing up, Dr's were rarely seen except for emergencies. If we did Pencillan was the most popular pill to cure the problem. For our colds we were were given aspirn for our fever. For our chest conjestion, we were rubbed with Bengay or Vicks vapor rub and hot cloths put on our chests to help break it up. My mothers belief was you did not go outside with Vicks or Bengay on, or you would get pheumonia. So we could breathe through our nose, Vicks was put under it as our nose inhaler. Sometimes HOT TODDY'S (yuk) was given to loosen our chest colds. It was made out of whiskey, fresh squeezed lemon juice, sugar or honey, & then heated. The crying started when we had to drink it. Up chucking it didn't work either. ha For our coughs we were given that terrible tasting hoar-hound candy. I remember all of us crying when we had to eat some. Our dad loved it. It was one kind he could have around and we never touched. ha Last of all how many of you remember the famous remedy of a good dose of CASTOR OIL. It seemed to be a CURE ALL. The old belief of spring cleaning of your system to get all of the impurities out. Even to those times you pushed your parents to their limits. Those of us who didn't have to take it, left in a hurry & done our laughing outside or we got it to. Kay __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

At 10:20 AM 12/14/00 -0500, Donna Fitzgerald wrote: >Tim wrote: >Thanks, Tim, for all of your work - you do a great Job!! > >I have quite a few of the people listed on page 73 of the 1830 >Hamilton Co., TN Census. I would like to add a few possible >corrections and additional notes to this first page of families. First of all let me say that the writing in this census is atrocius. Even though my dog doesn't have a good way to grasp a pencil, I feel she could do just about as good as a job writing these records. >Line #1 Asahel RAWLINGS (s/o Asahel RAWLINGS, Sr. of Greene Co., TN >and Margaret RESIN) - his wife is Phoebe THURMAN d/o Philip THURMAN >and Kesiah Penelope KIRKLAND. My first take was that this was Rachel RAWLINGS. Thanks for the confirmation of the correct name. I got a copy of the supposed index of this census at the library to correct/confirm my interpretation of the names. Obviously on some of the below neither the ones creating the index or myself could get it correct. >Line #2 Stephen THURMAN (s/o Philip THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND) - his >wife is Elizabeth "Betty" ROGERS d/o of William ROGERS and Rossannah >HEARD. ( I don't have many of his children, if anyone does, please >email me.) > >Line #3 John BRADFIELD (s/o James BRADFIELD and Elizabeth LORENZ0 - >his wife is Susannah THURMAN d/o Philip THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND. > >Line #4 George SAWYER (not SROGET) - if you will look at the "g", it >is open at the top and is a "y", the "t" is an "r" so it looks more >like "SROYER" - George Washington SAWYER(S) is my 4th ggrandfather it >is likely that this is him living next to his relatives by marriage - >his wife is Mary Victoria THURMAN yet another daughter of Philip >THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND. My first thought was that this was SROGER. >Line #7 Martin HARTMAN (s/o Jacob HARTMAN and Margaret BEARD, brother >of John HARTMAN) - his wife is Sarah SAWYER d/o George W. SAWYER and >Mary THURMAN - he later marries her sister Nancy SAWYER SMITH - my 3rd >ggrandmother. > >Line #8 Jonothan CARRINGTON - this is CUNNINGHAM Yes, I meant to change that. >Line #14 Joseph PUGH >Line #15 James H. PAGLE - I believe this to be James N. TAYLO - there >is a good chance that both of these men, PUGH and TAYLO are from >Bertie Co., NC where there are many PUGHS and TAYLOES. The Bertie >Co., NC 1850 Census can be found on the NCBERTIE-L list where there >are many Castilloes, Tayloes, Barnacastles - all I believe derive from >the same. I can see that, but at first glance I thought it PAYLO - but I do see the difference between this 'P' and the 'P' of line 14. >Line #16 Talton GREEN - I believe this to be Sutton GREEN And my conclusion was that it was Fuller GREEN! >Line #23 Tandy JACKSON (son of Tandy JACKSON, Sr and Elizabeth >SMITH) - wife is Margaret SULLINS - I have some information on this >man and I am very interested in anyone who has more. Appeared to me as Randy JACKSON >Lines # 26 Layton (Leighton Kinsey) SMITH - son of Leighton SMITH and >Elizabeth ROBERSON - I am interested in any information here also. > >Thank you, > >Donna F. As I said, my dog I think, could do about as well as the original census taker. I'll see about putting in variations. Thanks for your input Donna. Tim

My father used to make a cough syrup out of whiskey with either peppermints or horehound (I don't know if I spelled that correctly) candy. It worked better than anything I've found since. -----Original Message----- From: Joan DeFore <joande4@juno.com> To: TNHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com <TNHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: [TNHAMILT] Hot Toddy >Did anyone else have whiskey and lemon juice mixed >together to be taken from a teaspoon for coughing. Wasn't >this called a Hot toddy.????? > >Also Lemon and Honey together. >Evelyn > >Evelyn, We had whiskey, lemon juice and honey and yes, they were called >Hot Toddies. I didn't realize until I was in my late teens that we did >indeed have liquor in the house. I still don't know where my father must >have hidden it. > >Joan > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

Did anyone else have whiskey and lemon juice mixed together to be taken from a teaspoon for coughing. Wasn't this called a Hot toddy.????? Also Lemon and Honey together. Evelyn Evelyn, We had whiskey, lemon juice and honey and yes, they were called Hot Toddies. I didn't realize until I was in my late teens that we did indeed have liquor in the house. I still don't know where my father must have hidden it. Joan

Did anyone else have whiskey and lemon juice mixed together to be taken from a teaspoon for coughing. Wasn't this called a Hot toddy.????? Also Lemon and Honey together. Evelyn

Melody One of my old things I would Double DAwg anyone to bother is my hand blown glass chair that belonged to my grandfather. He got it for 50 cents in early early 1900s in Oklahoma. It hung across the family oregon with a silver ball in the middle for years. This chain is just beautiful. Then I have lots of old pictues, my old iron pot that hung in the fireplace of great grandparents log home. My Grandmothers sad irons are very special to me. I have one of great grandmothers dress. I am a collector. Evelyn

I hope someone can tell me why I get this notice everytime I try to "search the database" of the online obit index at the library: > > >You have selected an unimplemented feature. Please click on your browser's back button to return. >Thank you. > This was happening a month or so ago, so I've given it a rest and decided to try again tonight. Still the same old thing. Anyone else having a problem with it? Barbara Dooley Cullowhee, NC

Tim wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <TNHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 1:19 AM Subject: [TNHAMILT] Hamilton County update > This evening, a beginning of the 1830 census. It didn't take long to get the > data in place but I tried to take some extra time, in making the format > easy to read. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhamilt - it is on a link from the main Hamilton > County site. Thanks, Tim, for all of your work - you do a great Job!! I have quite a few of the people listed on page 73 of the 1830 Hamilton Co., TN Census. I would like to add a few possible corrections and additional notes to this first page of families. Line #1 Asahel RAWLINGS (s/o Asahel RAWLINGS, Sr. of Greene Co., TN and Margaret RESIN) - his wife is Phoebe THURMAN d/o Philip THURMAN and Kesiah Penelope KIRKLAND. Line #2 Stephen THURMAN (s/o Philip THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND) - his wife is Elizabeth "Betty" ROGERS d/o of William ROGERS and Rossannah HEARD. ( I don't have many of his children, if anyone does, please email me.) Line #3 John BRADFIELD (s/o James BRADFIELD and Elizabeth LORENZ0 - his wife is Susannah THURMAN d/o Philip THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND. Line #4 George SAWYER (not SROGET) - if you will look at the "g", it is open at the top and is a "y", the "t" is an "r" so it looks more like "SROYER" - George Washington SAWYER(S) is my 4th ggrandfather it is likely that this is him living next to his relatives by marriage - his wife is Mary Victoria THURMAN yet another daughter of Philip THURMAN and Kesiah KIRKLAND. Line #7 Martin HARTMAN (s/o Jacob HARTMAN and Margaret BEARD, brother of John HARTMAN) - his wife is Sarah SAWYER d/o George W. SAWYER and Mary THURMAN - he later marries her sister Nancy SAWYER SMITH - my 3rd ggrandmother. Line #8 Jonothan CARRINGTON - this is CUNNINGHAM Line #14 Joseph PUGH Line #15 James H. PAGLE - I believe this to be James N. TAYLO - there is a good chance that both of these men, PUGH and TAYLO are from Bertie Co., NC where there are many PUGHS and TAYLOES. The Bertie Co., NC 1850 Census can be found on the NCBERTIE-L list where there are many Castilloes, Tayloes, Barnacastles - all I believe derive from the same. Line #16 Talton GREEN - I believe this to be Sutton GREEN Line #23 Tandy JACKSON (son of Tandy JACKSON, Sr and Elizabeth SMITH) - wife is Margaret SULLINS - I have some information on this man and I am very interested in anyone who has more. Lines # 26 Layton (Leighton Kinsey) SMITH - son of Leighton SMITH and Elizabeth ROBERSON - I am interested in any information here also. Thank you, Donna F.

This evening, a beginning of the 1830 census. It didn't take long to get the data in place but I tried to take some extra time, in making the format easy to read. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhamilt - it is on a link from the main Hamilton County site. The next round, I'll be making some revisions and additions to the Forest Hills cemetery. Tim

Does anyone know what name Prospect Avenue was changed to? I cannot find it on Map Quest. This was the name of the street my grandparents lived on in Chattanooga in 1914 when my father was born. It must have been changed sometime after that (or Map Quest just doesn't have it in its database). Thanks. Cathy

One of my brick walls is my grandmother's family. My grandmother, Sarah Elizabeth PRITCHARD Womack,born 8/15/1898 and her sister, Mary PRITCHARD Womack,born abt. 1887, were both married to my grandfather, John Pleas WOMACK (born in Polk Co,TN). John & Mary were married in Bradley Co., TN in 1907. Mary died in Hamilton Co, TN in 1923. Her death certificate lists ALBERT PRITCHARD & Rebecca ANDERSON as parents. Sara died in 1963, and her death certificate lists parents as OSCAR PRITCHARD & Rebecca Anderson. According to my Mom's birth certificate, Sarah was born in Bradley Co., TN. I have been unable to find out if Mr. Pritchard's name is Oscar or Albert, as I have been unable to find him & Rebecca in any census records prior to 1910, nor have I found a death record on an Albert or Oscar Pritchard. If any of this info looks familiar to ANYONE, please contact me. Thank You. I am posting this request to several different lists, so if you get it more than once, please hit delete!! Sincerely, Connie Baumann

I am trying to find relatives of James "Jim" Worth Golden. James W. Golden lived in Chattanooga from 1865 to 1932. He was a machinist and was the husband of Kate Pinion-Golden and they married in Hamilton County May 8, 1871. Kate was born in 1852 and died in 1920 in Chattanooga Jim and Kate Golden had 6 children of whom I know that 2 lived to adulthood. I am looking for descendants of: 1. Benjamin "Ben" H. Golden b 1888 Chattanooga 2. Albert E. Golden b 1881 Chattanooga James Worth Golden was the brother of William Anderson Golden. William A. Golden also married in Chattanooga to Mary Ann Sweeney before he moved to Williamson County, TN and later to Pontotoc County, Oklahoma. James Worth and William Anderson Golden were sons of Hiram F. and Lucy A. Ham-Golden Jim and Kate Golden are buried in Forest Hills Cemetery. Thanks Mike Golden