This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ihB.2ACI/4131.4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: First, why was this listed on Greene Co? Well.....it began with someone asking about a Greene Co family named Welty which I know nothing about....but they thought perhaps this family was the one on the 1750 St Andrew with a Bar and a Funk. They also asked about families from Switzerland and the Brethern Church etc. Since Peter Turney SR arrived 1741 on Friendship at Philadelphia with his first wife Anna Bahr - they were originally from Switzerland by way of Germany, etc.....I suggested this person look at the Valley of VA since that is where many of these families lived between their arrival in America and moving on to Eastern Tennessee....Augusta, Shenandoah, Frederick Co VA. I mentioned my Turney family and the families living near them in the Woodstock/Edinburg area of VA on the North Branch of Shenandoah River.....and Abraham Byrd was one of these neighbors. Then someone asked me about Abraham Byrd and I explained there were two of them. Really this has gotten to the point that perhaps it should not be on Greene Co TN page, but a lot of the early settlers in all the eastern TN counties came out of the area of Augusta, Shenandoah, Frederick Co VA. I do not know if Peter Turney Jr who died 1804 Dixon Springs, Smith Co TN and was married to Francis Haines....actually lived in Greene county....I don't know where he lived since he was a surveyor and had land all over TN. Until 1790s when he moved to and built his home in Dixon Springs, I could not tell you which piece of property he lived on. He was not one of the Cumberland group who settled Fort Nashborough (Nashville) in 1780 (his brother Henry was), but shortly after that he had his name on a large piece of land outside the fort - about where Vanderbilt U is located now. 1780 he was at places like Boyd's Creek, and maybe King's Mountain. Peter Jr. was sheriff of Spencer County in State of Franklin....that would be area of Hawkins County today. but he sure roamed around Greene County in those early years....and associated with the early settlers of the area. About Haynes/Haines, etc living near the Turneys - I have never found them like a near neighbor. There was in 1788 a Robert Haines in Frederick Co VA who was owner with several others of what became Front Royal on the south branch of Shenandoah River. The Turneys had left Shenandoah Co VA by 1787, 4 of them long before that around 1774 they were in eastern TN. The area of Edinburg and Front Royal are a distance apart, but would they have known each other? I don't know. It is perhaps something to look at this Robert Haines of early Front Royal..... I have seen a Haynes mentioned in Smythe Co VA....but much later than the Turneys would have been passing thru that area. There was also a Haynes in Shenandoah Co VA but in 1860s onwards, but they do connect to Taylor and Carter of eastern TN. But no, there were no Haines/Haynes near the Turneys in Virginia before 4 of the Turney children moved to Eastern TN. Eve Turney Teeter and her sister Mary Bealor were both on Beaver Creek, Eve Teeter land was in what today is VA.....Henry Turney and Peter Jr were just a bit NW of Bristol at first, then all over including Clinch River, etc. I have been told there were Haines in Overton Co TN area, and Peter Turney Jr did own land there, and I think I found his son James there ca 1812. Mary