This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Payne Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.greene/4141.2.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following web link gives a description of James O Payne's application for a Civil War pension. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nc/madison/military/civilwar/pension/payne01.txt It is on the Madison County, NC USGenWeb site. I am James O Payne's gggrandson through his son Daniel A. Payne. My grandmother Maude Payne McFall (Daniel's daughter) thought the middle name was Osbourne or Osborne. My records pretty much match yours in this posting plus I show another brother James Randolph Payne born 1859. I have also been unable to find Joseph Payne's ancestors.