This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dlwne Surnames: Welty Kifer Ilgenfritz Simon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.tennessee.counties.greene/5094.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The results of recent DNA testing indicate an all female lineal descendent of Veronica Kifer the second wife of John Kifer of Greene Co. TN has an mtDNA match with an all female lineal descendent of Susan Kifer the wife of Jacob Kifer. Susan Kifer was the daughter of John and Margaret Welty of Greene Co. TN and Jacob Kifer was the son of John Kifer and his first wife Gloria. This match indicates there is a common female ancestor somewhere between Veronica Kifer and Susan Kifer. There is no proof that Veronica Kifer was a daughter of John and Margaret Welty but it is a likely possibility. It also could be that Veronica was a cousin of Susan Kifer through sisters of Susan's mother Margaret Welty nee Ilgenfritz. The 1830 census indicates Veronica was born between 1780 and 1790. John and Margaret Welty were married on Aug. 17, 1783 in York Co. PA. The earliest known child was Margaret who was born about 1786 according to census records. Thus there could have been a child born prior to Margaret and it could be Veronica. This may be another indication of the parents of John Welty. There was a marriage at Augustus Lutheran Church in Montgomery Co. PA in 1753 of John Anthon Simon and Euphronica Waldin the widow of Caspar. Fronica Simon and John Welty both appear on a 1796 communion record in Shenandoah Co. VA. It is possible Veronica Kifer was named after the mother of John Welty if it was Euphronica the wife of Caspar Waldi. Euphronica is derived from Eva Veronica. The parentage of John Welty is being pursued based on this new information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.