Donna, Good point! I have already purchased and received my copy of this book. Perhaps queries could be limited to "Is my family surname in the book?" for people who want to know that before they purchase it. However, if you have family lines in Greene County, I think it's a pretty safe bet that at least some of your ancestors will be in the book. Debby Buchanan
Hi Janet, Well, your land grants for John Bennett are a little different that the two that I have. (I have a partial of a third but I forgot to make copies of the entire thing). The two that I have list Jonathan Gore as the soldier assigning his land to William Hendry and David Hickman, asignee-William Hendry. The third is the same with a John Hickman as soldier but same wording. There is no money mentioned in the three. You can see that two that I've transcribed at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hendrycousins Go the the "Land" tab on the menue page. One of my earlier ancestors, George Hendry, was granted land in the Northern Neck, VA. for is service in the French and Indian War. I believe he had to pay so much in corn, etc. for this land, but no "taxes?" were mentioned for that land. (I'm not even sure exactly what happened to that land because he sold it to a Campbell while he was in the "goal")LOL But there seems to be some court action about that, so he may have gotten it back. Dont' know. And your grants mention so much per 100. I'm not sure if there was a place in Greene County, per se, named Newbern, but I do know that Newbern, NC. TODAY isn't far from the state line between NC. and TN. The two men, Jonathan Gore and David Hickman, seem to be in Bertie Co., NC. so I don't think that it necessarily means that John Bennett was in Newbern or from Newbern. I have some of the earlier tax lists of Greene County. I'll look to see if John is on any of those. Your grants mentions land on the Nolichuckey. Mine is talking about land in the Cumberland Plateau or in the region. At the time, that was part of Greene County but not anywhere near the Nolichukey. This land is closer to the TN./KY. line, I think. Judging by the wording and my best "guess". Could your land grants have been from a lottery? GA. had lotteries where anyone could get the land, but on occasion, if the purchaser was a Rev. soldier, the sale would mention that fact. I don't know if NC. had lotteries or TN., for that matter. Does anyone know if NC and TN. had land lotteries? Would they have had them this early? GA.'s lotteries were a little bit later, circa 1810 or so. Renaee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Foster" <jlfoster@fuse.net> To: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 12:36 AM Subject: [TNGREENE] NC Land Grants in Tennessee > Questions about the NC Land Grants in TN. Maybe someone on this list can help. > > I posted several records on the TNGenWeb Greene County in 2000 and can only find them now on RootsWeb message boards. Anyway, one of them was the land grant (portions of), listed below. > > There are no assignees listed here and this was registered in Greene County, TN and witnessed in Newbern, (? NC). Was there a Newbern, TN? If the grant was witnessed in Newbern, does that mean that he was from Newbern or were all legal matters taken care of at Newbern? > > There are no records found of this John Bennet being in the Revolutionary War, serving in NC. Could this have been for service from the state of Virginia? There is a John Bennett listed with Capt Miles Gale's Company, Chowan County, taken 26th Nov 1754. Was this the French & Indian War and could the land grant have been for service in military other than the Rev. War? If John Bennett was granted 300 acres for military service, why did he have to pay ten pounds for every hundred acres? > > Looking for answers, > Janet > =============== > 12371 State of North Carolina to JOHN BENNET for 300 acres on a Branch of Richland Creek --- Registered in Book -B- and page -222- State of North Carolina No 947 > ............... > > the sum of Ten pounds for every Hundred acres hereby granted paid into our Treasury By JOHN BENNET have given and granted and by these presents do give and grant unto the Said JOHN BENNET a Tract of Land Containing Three Hundred acres, Lying and Being in our County of Greene on a branch of Richland Creek on the north Side of Nolachuckey. > > Said JOHN BENNET Shall Cause this Grant to be Registered in the Registers office of our Said County of Greene within Twelve months from the Date hereof otherwise the Same Shall be void and of no Effect. In Testimony whereof we have Caused these our Letters to be made patent and our Great Seal to be hereunto affixed. Witness ALEXANDER MARTIN, Esquire, our Governor, Captain General and Commander in Chief at Newbern the 26th Day of ( blank here ) in the fifteenth year of our Independence and in the year of our Lord one thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety one.- - - - - - > By his Excell??, Com'd - - - - - ALEXANDER MARTIN > J. GLASGOW, Secretary - - - - > ______John Bennet 300 acres Greene County Recorded in the Secretarys Office - - - -____Registered the ?4th of October 1792 > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGREENE Mailing List ==== > TNGenWeb's Project for Greene Co > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngreene >
Questions about the NC Land Grants in TN. Maybe someone on this list can help. I posted several records on the TNGenWeb Greene County in 2000 and can only find them now on RootsWeb message boards. Anyway, one of them was the land grant (portions of), listed below. There are no assignees listed here and this was registered in Greene County, TN and witnessed in Newbern, (? NC). Was there a Newbern, TN? If the grant was witnessed in Newbern, does that mean that he was from Newbern or were all legal matters taken care of at Newbern? There are no records found of this John Bennet being in the Revolutionary War, serving in NC. Could this have been for service from the state of Virginia? There is a John Bennett listed with Capt Miles Gale's Company, Chowan County, taken 26th Nov 1754. Was this the French & Indian War and could the land grant have been for service in military other than the Rev. War? If John Bennett was granted 300 acres for military service, why did he have to pay ten pounds for every hundred acres? Looking for answers, Janet =============== 12371 State of North Carolina to JOHN BENNET for 300 acres on a Branch of Richland Creek --- Registered in Book -B- and page -222- State of North Carolina No 947 ............... the sum of Ten pounds for every Hundred acres hereby granted paid into our Treasury By JOHN BENNET have given and granted and by these presents do give and grant unto the Said JOHN BENNET a Tract of Land Containing Three Hundred acres, Lying and Being in our County of Greene on a branch of Richland Creek on the north Side of Nolachuckey. Said JOHN BENNET Shall Cause this Grant to be Registered in the Registers office of our Said County of Greene within Twelve months from the Date hereof otherwise the Same Shall be void and of no Effect. In Testimony whereof we have Caused these our Letters to be made patent and our Great Seal to be hereunto affixed. Witness ALEXANDER MARTIN, Esquire, our Governor, Captain General and Commander in Chief at Newbern the 26th Day of ( blank here ) in the fifteenth year of our Independence and in the year of our Lord one thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety one.- - - - - - By his Excell??, Com'd - - - - - ALEXANDER MARTIN J. GLASGOW, Secretary - - - - ______John Bennet 300 acres Greene County Recorded in the Secretarys Office - - - -____Registered the ?4th of October 1792
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Logan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Doug, Unless someone missed a line on the scanned copy I have of David Logan's will, I don't see James Logan in there. What item number is he under? My information on Peggy McPheron (aka Betsey and Elizabeth) is that she died with a young infant. If that's incorrect, I'd like to know more. The James Logan you described could not be a son of David Logan. You wrote he was born in 1784 and married Lydia Reece in Greene Co. If so, then he has to be either a brother or a cousin to David Logan b. 1782 who owned the Plantation Fruching. He is probably the same James Logan on the 1830 census in Greene Co. Who is John Logan? I haven't heard of him or his will before. You obviously have some things I don't. I really need to see that post you found. Send me the link. Thanks, Doug
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4222.1 Message Board Post: Here are two places to look, if you haven't already. Go to Usgenweb.org and then use the National Search Engine to search the entire U.S. But better yet, go to Usgenweb.org and use the Archives Search Engine for the entire country. You'll find lots of wills, cemeteries, censuses, and other goodies. Have fun.
Hi - A previous poster said that this book is the best reference about Greene County she knew of. My ancestors lived in Hawkins and Unicoi counties (after NC and VA), with one of the families (Lawings) moving to Greene County in the beginning of the 1900's. I have been thinking about ordering this book, but I would like to know more about it. Is this a general book about the early families of eastern Tennessee, or is it primarily about Greene county residents? Thank you. -- Valerie Crowe
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ruble, Frye, Lindamood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4222 Message Board Post: Frances/Fanny Ruble requested a guardian in 1829 in Shenandoah County, Virginia, when she was about 21. Her guardian was her husband Abraham Lindamood. When she married him, the person who vouched for her (Michael Frye) did not share her family name. This seems to indicate that Fanny had no father, and that she was named in someone's will and was expecting an inheritance. The question is, whose will, and where was it filed? Does anyone know of a will naming Frances Ruble? A grandparent or other relative with a different family name may have remembered her in their will. I find no such document in Shenandoah County, but there may be one in a county where some of her family once lived. Any clues would be appreciated!
Thanks Jim for the info on William. I did not know there were so many Jothams! Renaee
Doug, Nan, I'm just as perplexed over these land grants as you. I don't think there is a simple answer. A few years back, someone stated that these lands were given to soldiers who served in the Continental army. Ok, I agree with that, but what isn't addressed is the fact that some of those soldiers "assigned" lands to men who appear not to be related to them. As far as I know, there was no money exchanged for this assignment, at least not here in TN. There may be land deeds recorded in NC. The assignee, as Doug stated, can not be found serving during the Revolution and I haven't made a connection to family. Thanks to Doug, he did find two of the soldiers in the NC army. So, could the assignees be someone who helped the soldier during the Revolution? Or could the assignee be someone who supplied food, housing, horses, etc. to a company? I know that some people aided the Continental Army but was not on rosters as soldiers. They just helped the cause and were rewarded. But I thought they were given land too? Would love to hear what others think. I'm still scratching my head over this one. Is TN. the only state that this shows in? Or is OH. one of those states as well? Renaee
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Doug: James Logan is most certainly mentioned in David Logan's will as a son. I am sure that he is a product of David Logan's first marriage to Peggy McPherron because he is mentioned in John McPherron's will as "my nephew James Logan." I have tried to tie David Logan to the Nolachucky River land, but I haven't been able to. I hope this helps. Doug
I would like to order "Tennessee's First Settlers & Soldiers. I would appreciate the ordering information. Thanks Betty
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4205.1.1.2.2.2.3 Message Board Post: Jotham Brown married Nancy Ann Weems on 10/27/1861 with James D. Brown present and J.P.-- J.B. Hankins. I did not find a marriage of Nancy Ann to cousin John but John was at the wedding of a Nancy to James Jones 4/4/1826 and Sarah to Lewis Jones 12/25/1826. And John m. Anna Lane 2/7/1828 and a John m. Martha Gass 1/21/1830. William Lewis Brown m. Harriet Smith 3/25/1841.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Doug, This is more interesting news. I could not find the website you mentioned, you'll have to send me a link, but I will write an email to the author of the post or contact her online. How recent was the post? I know you examined many deeds in Greene Co, and that you wrote that David Logan's name was on many deeds. I wonder if there would be a way to build a trail of lands sales and trades that would take us from the land on the Nolachuckee River to the land cited in the will that was on two sides of Lick Creek? That would be the most convincing evidence that William Logan was the father. James Logan is not mentioned in the will as far as I can see, and caused me to question whether James Logan was really a son of David Logan. Based on that birthdate information, James is David Logan's brother, and the James Logan we see in the census is his brother, not the son. Somehow I feel we getting somewhere in all this. Doug
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Doug: On the genconnect site there is information on this William Logan. It states that he died in Knox County, KY in 1824 with 11 heirs, nine of whom are identified. He was married to Mary Blakely. It does not give David Logan as a son, but states that William Logan's unproven father was a David Logan who immigrated from Ireland to Virginia. It also states that William Logan's son, James Logan b. 1784, married Lydia Reece in Greene County, Tennessee - AND - that William Logan owned 600 acres of land in Greene County, Tennessee. The author of this information is Brenda Reed brendreed@aol.com Doug
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4205.1.1.2.2.2.2 Message Board Post: The Jotham Brown who married Nancy Weems is the Jotham I call Jotham III. He was the son of Jotham II (1783 VA-7/21/1859 Roaring Springs, Greene Co. TN. buried at Cross Anchor Cemetery. Jotham II m. Hannah Margaret (Peggy) Malone/Maloney. She was b. 6/26/1786 PA and d. 12/2/1858 Greene Co. TN. I do not have names of any children of Nancy and Jotham except the one you gave. However, I do have this information: A Nancy Ann Weems b. 1843 was dtr of Tennessee Weems and Mary Malone (and Mary was dtr of John Malone (1722- 1795) and Sarah Edith Cole--ancestors of my great grand- mother Polly Malone. Whether this is your Nancy, I can not say. There was another Nancy A., dtr of William Weems (1810-81) and Nancy Catherine Malone (1812-1872) who m. 12/26/1832. Other children of Wm and Nancy Catherine were: Mary J. 1833, Martha E. 1844, Catherine C., Margaret E., James A. and Wm D. 1850. I hope this helps in some way.
Hi - I would just like to share a note on those sharing information from this book. I just recieved my copy & it is one of the most magnificant genealogy books I have ever recieved. Eleanor is giving this book away at $35.00 including postage. Those of you that are giving out information from your copy while with good intentions, I think the main point of this book is being missed. The author has cross referenced so many families that give possible information to extended lines that you are missing so much if you just get information on one line. Anyone with family from Greene Co will find this the best reference book on this county they have ever found. If you are really into genealogy, you know the value of keeping books pertaining to your family on your shelves because you never know when additional information is going to come along and tie in to that data in the book on your shelves. This book belongs in every library that has a section on Tennessee. I am on a fixed income, but am going to try & purchase one for my local genealogical library. This book was a buy on todays market at $55.00 -- I can see your wanting to know if your family is in the book. But that should be it. We have a widow trying to sell her husband's life work at $35.00 including postage & she has had to watch the information being given away free on this forum. I just do not know how else to say it. If you are insistant on sharing information from this book, at least do it from your own individual to individual email addresses so Eleanor does not have to read about the information being given from her husbands book free over this forum. If this email makes some of you angry, I apologize, but if you were watching your lifes work being given out free over the internet, think how you would feel. I have shared some of my data with some cousins & now it is on the internet without my permission complete with a lot of embelishments & errors that were added. Believe me that is a bitter pill to swollow. So bite the bullet, buy this wonderful book or share the information privately if that is what you must do. Again my apologies if this email angers anyone. That is not my intent. I just think we need to be more aware how sometimes sharing information over the forum affects others.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Logan, Boyd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3.1 Message Board Post: Nan, That may be true, but from what I have seen on these deeds are the words "Assigned To". The only way I can interpret that is that the rights to the deed were assigned from one person to another person. Robert Boyd assigned the deed to William Logan. I did find a Revolutionary War record for Robert Boyd. He was a Revolutionary War soldier in North Carolina. There is no such record I can find for a William Logan except a rejected RW pension application for a William Logan who applied in South Carolina, but the case was referred to North Carolina. In the two other similar deeds I looked at, I could find NC Revolutionary War records for the first person assigning the deeds, but none for the person who received the deeds. That is why I concluded that the deeds were sold from a Revolutionary War soldier to another person. I don't know how else you explain two names on a deed that aren't related to each other. I'd be interested in hearing more discussion about this b! ecause it may finally lead us to William Logan. Thanks, Doug
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4204.1.2.1.2.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: These listed properties are North Carolina Land Grants to the specified persons for services rendered, and not an exchange of lands to others.
FYI: I do wish that the people who a using my husband's book to give out information would use some other subject when you write & answer. It's very confusing to me. Eleanor McAmis ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward C. McAmis <ecmcamis@chesapeake.net> To: <TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [TNGREENE] "TENNESSEE'S FIRST SETTLERS & SOLDIERS" > To those who have expressed an interest in obtaining a copy of "TENNESSEE''S FIRST SETTLERS & SOLDIERS" by EdwardC. McAmis, I submit the following: It is available at the reduced price of $35.00 as I am going to have to store any copies not sold. I am not in the best of health at 75 yrs. and no one in the family will care enough to see that they would be mailed out. My address is 1981 Hummingbirg, Drive, Lusby, Md., 20657. Eleanor. > > > ==== TNGREENE Mailing List ==== > Search the new Greene County Ancestor's Surname page > to see who could be researching the same line: > http://www.genealogyforyou.com/usa/tennessee/greene/register.htm >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4205.1.1.2.2.2.1 Message Board Post: There were *at least* 5 Jotham Browns associated one way or another with the Browns of Greene Co. 1. "Old" Jotham Brown (ca. 1740 - 1798) who married Phoebe (prob. Johnston). He apparently died in VA but was ancestor of many Greene Co. Browns. 2. Jotham Brown "Jr." (10/2/1783 - 7/21/1859) -- son of "Old" Jotham Brown, married Margaret "Peggy" Maloney. He is buried in Greene Co. 3. Jotham Brown (b.ca. 1797) -- grandson of "Old" Jotham Brown and son of David Brown m. Nancy Ann Craig. This Jotham married (1st) Mary (Polly) Johnson March 18, 1819 and (2nd) Mary (Polly) McCurry April 1, 1824. 4. Jotham Benjamin Brown (b. 1809) -- another grandson of "Old" Jotham Brown. This Jotham was son of Sylvanus Brown and Ruth Johnston. He married (1st) Eliza Bryant October 10, 1827 and (2nd) Hannah Knight after 1850 5. Jotham Brown (b. 1840) -- son of Jotham Benjamin Brown. He appears in this household in the 1850 census, but I don't know any more about him. It's *possible* he is father of your William L. Brown. I say this only because he is the only Jotham I have whose wife I don't know and who lived in about the right time frame. As far as William L. Brown is concerned, I show 10 William's and 2 William L.'s, but they are all of the wrong age or have different parents than you show. Renaee, I believe your William Brown was the brother of Jotham #3 above. I show his middle name as Benjamin, for what it's worth. All that having been said, everyone should realize that this information is collated from the "best efforts" of several different researchers who distributed various pieces of paper at the 2001 Brown Reunion. Much of it lacks firm evidence! Hope this is helpful! Jim Slone