Does anyone have any info in Jeremiah Nelson b. abt 1805 or his wife Elizabeth. I have seen Shannon as Elizabeth's last name but no evidence to support this. Their daughter Mary A. Nelson married David J. Boles, son of Jacob Bowles/Boles and Nancy Jeans. Mary and David are my great great grandparents. It's curious that Harriet J. Shannon 3 yrs old is living with Jeremiah at the time of the 1850 census. No other Shannons appear in that census. James Shannon's name appears numerous times in the Bright Hope Ledger. I can't find anything further on James Shannon. James does appear in the 1830 Census with I male 15-20, 1 male 20-30 and 1 60-70. Females are 15-20, and 40-50. What happened to these folks? Are the older couple Shannon household Elizabeth's parents? Any clues would be appreciated. Jeremiah and Elizabeth are real stumbling blocks. I don't use brick wall any more. I'm too old to jump over or climb them. I just stumble along now. <grin> You may email me directly at rwallace15@comcast.net. Bob Wallace

For those of you who don’t know who Jim Rader is: My goal is to ignore any politics and place as much Greene County Information as I can get on the web site. My goal has always been to promote the research of our ancestors who lived in Greene County TN. My family moved there about 1800 and are still there ! I have been a member of the Greene County Genealogical society for more than 10 years and have contributed to their fine Journal. I have maintained a catalog of research tools, which they offer, on my www.rader.org site for a couple of years. I hosted a “Rader” reunion in Greene county over 10 years ago, which I filmed. I have a fair home library which contains much Greene County information. For more on me, personally, please visit my web site at http://www.rader.org/whoami.htm I hope you are having a fine day ! Seeking Jesus' will in my life ! I am Jim Rader jim@rader.org Visit my web at www.rader.org I hope to hear from you again soon! -----Original Message----- From: janethunter703@aol.com [mailto:janethunter703@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:36 PM To: jim@rader.org Subject: Re: [TNGREENE] The County Website Hi Jim, I have a couple of comments.  I have been on this list continuously (except for vacation breaks/email problems) for almost five and a half years.   I don't think I am on another of my "home lists" -- everybody in the Ozarks by 1850, except Greene Co. Sexton/Marshall/Fortner/DeFord/Jones stragglers who joined their siblings there since 1850 about 1883 -- where there hasn't been a more open discussion when the guard changes. | think it would be a good idea for you and Fred to announce yourselves and your background to the list,  I know that you have been participating actively for a long time, and am quite pleased that you are working with Fred. Bridget (a Marshall cousin by the way), has made some comments about website "politics", though it isn't clear exactly what, or whether it was tngenweb or rootsweb, being the reason that she took the old site off to her own independent address.    While I don't have the faintest idea what went on between anyone and Bridget, I think that it would perhaps be a good step and welcomed by all to add a link to her new website (unless there are discussions between you all).   Turning to the website under construction, I just don't believe it is possible that she has a proprietary/exclusive interest over all of the material she took with her that was contributed by others, and don't see why you can't solicit the same information from the contibutors to Bridget if they give it to you separately (thinks like the Bright Hope Furnace Ledges which I don't find linked yet) but then I'm not particularly savvy Anyway, I sent the email below to the Quaker-Roots list about a week ago.   The following links I think you might add (URLs) in the email: 1830 census complete transcription (independent website); 1860 census complete transcription (US genweb archives); 1880 census (www.familysearch.org -- the most overlooked census link) link to the UsGenWeb archives for Greene Co.with alot of individual documents which I've always wanted linked specifically at county websites -- ie for cemeteries.   Well, those are my two cents worth.  Good Luck!   I haven't contacted Bridgett yet.  I am not particularly pleased, but selfish reasons of having to deal with two websites.  I thought when she gave two weeks notice that she had personal priorities. But who knows!  Maybe the result will be a whole new influx of information and we will all learn to deal with two great Greene Co. websites! My best regards; Janet Hunter Subj: Quakers in Greene Co. TN -- Online Resources Date: 9/20/2003 10:57:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: janethunter703 To: quaker-roots-l@rootsweb.com Hello Everyone, I missed the initial message making the request, and am curious what names are involved. I just note the following sources of online information for Quaker families who lived in Greene Co TN.  Mine are Marshall, Doan, Sexton, DeFord, Fortner, Chambers, Horton, Martin (not all Quakers, many allied lines). "Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy" by William Wade Hinshaw.  Volume 1 includes some minutes and records of New Hope MM in Greene Co. TN, and a couple of other meetings whose names escape me at the moment.  The Volumes of this wonderful nd standard  work are almost always available at libraries in cities that have a genealogy room.  They are also available on CD, and are online via an ancestry.com subscription, which I have found most library systems in larger counties/cities have on subscription available for in-house use at all libraries in the systems. The cemetery reading for the Quaker New Hope MM in Greene Co. is online here: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/greene/cemeteries/newhope.txt The TN GenWeb page for Greene Co. is here: http://www.tngenweb.org/greene/ The Goodspeed's History of Greene Co. published in 1887 includes a discussion of early Quakers and the Manumission Society is found here: http://www.tngenweb.org/greene/goodspeed/goodspeed-greene.html The information of the prior "owner" of the above TN GenWeb site, is at her new site -- she took it with her so the above URL is having to recreate items and find new things is here.  She has a strong Quaker background and there is alot of material, pictures, early tax lists, etc. http://www.genealogyforyou.com/usa/tennessee/greene The 1830 Greene County Census has been transcribed and is here in both alphabetical and page forms: http://www.geocities.com/geniejeanie/indextn.html The 1840 Greene County Census index by SK Publications (also 1830 and 1850) is available at the Greene County Archives here: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/greene/census/1840/ The 1850 Greene County Census has been transcribed and is here: http://www.census-online.com/transcript/tn/greene/ The 1860 Greene County Census has been transcribed and is here: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/greene/census/1860/1860ext1.txt And of course the 1880 Greene Co. and entire U.S. census is online for free at www.familysearch.org, via the Search link. Good Luck! Janet Hunter

Thank you Bridgett for all your hard work and helping so many people to get going on their search. Your web pages are by and far one of the best county websites I have come accross. Thanks again, Nan

Yes please!!! jim@rader.org I hope you are having a fine day ! Seeking Jesus' will in my life ! I am Jim Rader jim@rader.org Visit my web at www.rader.org I hope to hear from you again soon! -----Original Message----- From: Christie Fox [mailto:jgcgfox@adelphia.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:23 AM To: jim@rader.org Subject: geneaology Info Do I email pictures and cemetary transcriptions to you to post? I have some older pics of my great grandparents and such, is that the type of pics you are looking for. Josie Kirk (my GGrandmother)actually descended from Raders which ties into one of your earlier lines. Just let me know what kind of info you are looking for, and I will be happy to share what I have. Thanks, Christie G. Fox

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4187.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your response, though I am a little late in doing so. I do not believe that you obtained information re John's siblings from the Pioneer. I have belonged to the Society for some 15 years and read the Pioneer religiously. I firmly believe there are a number of Roberts in Greene County who are related but don't know how. Names like Jonathan, Jesse (other than John's son Jesse), Nicholas, a Hannah besides the Hannah who was a daughter of James, William (other than John's son). As to Alfred M. Buller. He is the son of Nancy Roberts and Adam Buller. She is a daughter of John and Phebe. She had two other sons - James and Arthur Severe (my ancestor). Do you have anything about Adam Buller? Or the Mary Moyer who married John Bullard? John's son Jesse married a Harriet Bullen. Hope I have helped. June Buller

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: White

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I will keep you info handy. Is this family black or white?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, Kirk, Carter, Wood Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have found several possibles. This is my line: Jim/James Jones b? mar. Jane (possibly Mary Jane) Wood. their Children: A. William Jones b. 9/10/1867 mar.1st Mollie Carter b.7/12/1868 died in Childbirth 3/26/1915 *a. Charlie Edgar Jones b.7/2/1897 d.8/6/1962 (my line) mar. Josie Edith Kirk b. 7/15/1985 d.6/28/1972 b. Curtis Jones b. 2/11/1905 mar. Sallie Carmichael c. Rena Jones mar. Harl masoner d. Shurdon Jones 7/29/1891-7/10/1924 mar. Sallie Carmichael e.Martha Jones b.6/1/1909 d.8/26/1926 f. Raymond Jones b.1900 d.1982 mar. lena B Robinson g. Harvey Jones b. 1902 d.1973 h. Hattie Jones b.3/22/1888 d.12/27/1968 mar. Robert Frank Clowers mar.2nd Martha Jane (Mattie) Gregg b.6/27/1895d.12/23/1982 a. Beryl Blane Jones b. 9/7/1933 d. 9/7/1933 b. Grace Mae Jones b. 3/18/1920 d. 4/5/1981 m.Clevis Otis Knight c. Lemuel Jones d. Pauline Jones b.1931 d. 1/8/1995 e. Ada Jones f. Mary Jones mar. Sam Beach g. Earl wayne Jones 9/7/1933 B. James Jones Jr. b. 1872 Greene Co Tn d. 1932 C. Sam Jones Mar. Bess ? D. Liza Jones mar. Hansel ? E. Charlie Jones F. Sarah Jones G. Clark Jones mar ? Quentin H. Belle Jones mar. Wesley Carter

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Have you searched the Census for them yet? And looked up a marriage record yet? You may have to try for a backwards approach. I do that alot. Research siblings, etc. first.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I do not know for sure. My Grandfather told me that he had heard passed down that our Jones' were from Missouri, but I have hit a wall with Jim Jones and Im not sure where he was born. On one of his son's death certs. his parents Jim Jones and Jane Wood were born in TN, but that is is not always correct either. Christie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/3381.3385.3398.1.1.1 Message Board Post: do you know if this James Jones was ever in Ms.? Born there, died there? Anything at all to help determine which one of the 4,000 James Jones's he is? I've been searching for my James Albert Jones of Ms. for over a year now. Would love to match these up...

Have you visited the Greene county web site lately ?? County Resources Records from Greene T. Elmer Cox Historical and Genealogical Collection of Greeneville- Greene County Public Library Index to the Greene County Pioneer http://www.tngenweb.org/greene/ I hope you are having a fine day ! Seeking Jesus' will in my life ! I am Jim Rader jim@rader.org Visit my web at www.rader.org I hope to hear from you again soon!

Charles F. Rader Charles F. Rader, 79, Kansas City, Kan., died Sept. 15, 2003, at the VA Medical Center, Kansas City, Mo. Funeral services will be 9:30 a.m. Thursday, Sept. 18, at Simmons Funeral Home, where friends may call from 6 to 8 p.m. Wednesday. Burial in Maple Hill Cemetery. Mr. Rader was born July 21, 1924. He was preceded in death by his parents. Survivors include his wife, Juanita May Petzold Rader; two daughters, Alice Jenkins and Kathy Ensley, both of KCK; two sister, Eileen Heath, Merriam, Kan., and Lola Smith, Lee's Summit, Mo.; two brothers, Harold L. Rader and Danny H. Rader, all of KCK; and four grandchildren. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be left at the funeral home. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.520 / Virus Database: 318 - Release Date: 9/18/2003

I have found this naming pattern very helpful and not just for the Irish. Old Irish Naming Patterns 1st son was named after the father's father. 2nd son was named after the mother's father. 3rd son was named after the father. 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother. 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother. 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother. 3rd daughter was named after the mother. 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COLLINS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ihB.2ACI/4020.1.1.1.4 Message Board Post: HI LIST FAMILY, AS I WAS READING DOROTHYS POST, ON THE CHILDREN OF URIAH, I REMEMBERED THE OLD ' NAMING TRADITION ' THAT GOES; 1ST SON after HIS father 2nd SON after HER father 3rd SON, after HIM/the husband 1st DAUGHTER after HER mother, 2nd DAUGHTER,after HIS mother, 3rd DAUGHTER after HERSELF/THE WIFE, i wonder if it applies itself here? does anyone have the birth years on the first born children? in kinship, Deborah willows@enid.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COLLINS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ihB.2ACI/4020.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Hey Cousins, i have a URIAH.W.A.COLLINS,born 1826 wife; NANCY, born 1834 NANCY is the daughter of SILAS born; 1786 and SARAH ,born; 1791, they lived in GRAINGER CO,TENNESSEE, somewhere i have more on this URIAH W.A. COLLINS, in kinship, Deborah home email; willows@enid.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COLLINS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ihB.2ACI/4020.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Hey Cousins, i have a URIAH.W.A.COLLINS,born 1826 wife; NANCY, born 1834 NANCY is the daughter of SILAS born; 1786 and SARAH ,born; 1791, they lived in GRAINGER CO,TENNESSEE, somewhere i have more on this URIAH W.A. COLLINS, in kinship, Deborah home email; willows@enid.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4125.3.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Barbara. Is this Elizabeth the one born in or around 1826 and the one that married Caleb McMillan in 1845? I am trying to get as much information as possible because we may have found another line that we did not know about that would have decended from this marriage. Thank you for all your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4225.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: This is the John Malone line as I have it. John Malone the lst b. 1/1/1772-3 in Carroll Co. Md or Fincastle Co. Va. d. aft. 1795 in Sullivan Co. TN. He married twice; once to Rebecca Brown about whom we know nothing, and to Sarah Edith Cole in MD. Their children were: Mary, Michael 1746, Comfort 1750, John 2nd 1752, William before 1759 and George 1762. John Malone 2nd also married twice, to sisters Charity Posey (1750-60 d. bef. 1781) m. 1773 Shenandoah, VA and had at least 2 children: Zachariah b. 1774 who m. Rachel Casteel 2/17/1798 and John 3rd b. 11/21/1776 who married Margaret (Margary) Casteel on 8/8/1800 in Greene Co. TN. (I have nothing on your line and would like it.) John married Charity's sister Mary Anne Posey on 7/20/1780 in Bedford Co. Md. She was born 1760 and d. after 1830. (This is my line) Their children were: Sally William b. 11/17/1781 (Joy Malone's line) Charity and Anna (twins) b. 1883 Humphrey b. 1885 Joseph lst b. 1785-88 Betsey b. 1790 Solomon b. 1793 Polly Mary b. 1796-1800 d. aft. 1860 (my great great grand- mother) She married Jesse Reynolds on 7/2/1816. He was born1791-3 and died aft. 5/20/1886. Their children were: Jesse 2nd b. 1817 Jacob b. 1818 Jesse K. b. 1825 James Crawford b. 1830 Joshua b. 1/11/1832 Samuel b. 1836 Alfred (Dick) b. 6/1/1897 (my grandfather) And at least three girls whose names are not known I do have additional information if you want it but this is the basic data. There is a move afoot to clean up Malone Graveyard on what used to be Casteel farm which is being spearheaded by Joy Malone if you are interested in helping. Her email address is JMa5582751@Aol.com and I know she would love to have your information and your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: malone casteel weems york brown woodson reynolds weston Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ihB.2ACI/4225.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: hello ;im the son of virgle malone1898 son of anderson malone1854 of clinton co,ky son of john malone b.1803 green co.tn.son of john malone who married margary casteel in 1800..can you help fill in blanks between them and john sr. .im sure that my line goes through john jr and john sr i could use any info that you can give me .from lore i think a large part of my line are buried at malone casteel farm .