Hi, Gail - Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, but I'm not sure about this Alga S. Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? Betty B. From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 To whom it may concern Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 Robert A. Wooten Capt commanding the Co Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 H. Sheperd register ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Hi Gail, Betty B & List, Betty, in regard to your response, I agree that Alfred M. that was posted was the son of John & Sarah Roman Roach. However, there are two Algernon S Roach's that were born about 3 years apart. The one you mention, Algernon (Alga ) brother of Alfred M. was born in 1838 according to my records also. However, my Great Grandfather, Alfred Roach, born 1810 in Grainger Co.- first married Jane McDaniel. Their first born was Algernon S. Roach- born 1835. Although even this date doesn't match perfectly. it is possible Algernon S ( Alga ) was born in 1834. I almost certain this date came from 1850 census- and you know how one can be off a year or so on any census. In fact, my Grandfather was listed on 1860 census as being 5 years old- Henry Dawson Roach.-Grainger CO., TN I think everyone still uses that date of 1855 for his birth, but he was born April 11, 1853. I still can't get people to change that on their web sites. At any rate, I believe the Alga S. Roach that Gail listed information on is this Alga- son of Alfred & Jane McDaniel. I know from family history he served in the Civil War. There are other Alga's, but was born later. I think I have two others that I took pictures of their head stones while in Grainger Co in 2000. One was born in the 1870.s- and another- Alga -b. Sept5, 1891 I think this should clear up who this Alga is. Bill Roach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > Robert A. Wooten > Capt commanding the Co > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > H. Sheperd register > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > >

Dear Betty, I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out of sequence. Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is obvious there were days when people took documents to the Courthouse and had them recorded (probably on "court day"). They were apparently charged by the word. However, I now think that these documents were more likely sent to the Courthouse to be registered by the army or the Department of War, or whatever. Why they were entered in the deed books I don't know. Whether or not Henry Sheperd received the correct information this document is not the best example of his handwriting. When he writes the word twenty or thirty it usually is quite clear and distinguishable. Maybe he scribbled this off in a hurry? The end of a long hard day perhaps? As far as the age goes maybe he was distracted and wrote down the age on another discharge? The truth is I was rechecking the document against my transcription and then noticed that I had picked up the discharge of DANIEL L. Roach. Now I would never confuse or combine two transcriptions because I always CAREFULLY check and recheck my transcriptions particularly if they I am sending them to a list or to a message board. A government official whether county, state or federal one hundred and fifty years ago would probably not be as careful or concerned. They would never realize the difference to us many decades later especially if our ancestors weren't rich and famous and the records are few. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty B <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:54 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > Robert A. Wooten > Capt commanding the Co > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > H. Sheperd register > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Gail and all, I thought, I had copied more than one of the Roach's discharge's but so far all I can find is Anderson J. Roach's so that may be the only one I do have.... Later, Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Dear Betty, > > I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous > transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions > I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on > Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some > difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever > and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out > of sequence. > > Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to > email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this > time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a > photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a > look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but > like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) > > I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the > age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK > twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I > assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them > recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is > obvious there were days when people took documents to the Courthouse and had > them recorded (probably on "court day"). They were apparently charged by > the word. However, I now think that these documents were more likely sent > to the Courthouse to be registered by the army or the Department of War, or > whatever. Why they were entered in the deed books I don't know. Whether or > not Henry Sheperd received the correct information this document is not the > best example of his handwriting. When he writes the word twenty or thirty > it usually is quite clear and distinguishable. Maybe he scribbled this off > in a hurry? The end of a long hard day perhaps? As far as the age goes > maybe he was distracted and wrote down the age on another discharge? The > truth is I was rechecking the document against my transcription and then > noticed that I had picked up the discharge of DANIEL L. Roach. Now I would > never confuse or combine two transcriptions because I always CAREFULLY > check and recheck my transcriptions particularly if they I am sending them > to a list or to a message board. A government official whether county, > state or federal one hundred and fifty years ago would probably not be as > careful or concerned. They would never realize the difference to us many > decades later especially if our ancestors weren't rich and famous and the > records are few. > > Gail > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty B <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:54 > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > > > > Hi, Gail - > > > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) > Roach, > > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > > > Betty B. > > > > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > > > To whom it may concern > > > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled > on > > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes > Dark > > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > > > Robert A. Wooten > > Capt commanding the Co > > > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > > H. Sheperd register > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Gail, If you would be so kind, I would love to have a copy of of Alga S. Roach's discharge since he is in my direct line. I have not researched his Military history. Thanks Bill Roach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Dear Betty, > > I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous > transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions > I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on > Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some > difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever > and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out > of sequence. > > Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to > email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this > time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a > photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a > look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but > like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) > > I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the > age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK > twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I > assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them > recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is . > > > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > >