Gail and All, I did have Julia Caroline MAYES-ROACH's death date, as 1917, the index does not give the day..she was 85, its cert# 513 Hamilton ROACH either died before 1912 or after 1925 death index records..some of them fell in between...as some death records are from 1909-12...then they stopped....until abt 1914 sometime? does anyone have access to 1900 census ? I can look later on Ancestry.. Susan Cabbage b: 1900 who would be abt 103 this year...remembered Hamilton ROACH and family as he was the brother of her Grandfather Absolum ROACH d: 1917 also + Kate YATES SharR