Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, and if so, do you know who his parents were? Thanks for your assistance Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated names in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County 5 May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an earlier family someplace. They had issue: i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; served in Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul 1913 at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont Cemetery, Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. ******************************** 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, TN, son of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul 1806 in Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He married Mary G. Joyce . 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; died in Grainger Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) Louisa McElhaney . DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 in number whose names are referred to in the course of this instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, Clerk. MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA as specified in his last will and testament which see". Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. Ken At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Dear researchers, > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group although I >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to various >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying off" >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage record >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) However, >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse L. >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges living >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. There >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am not sure >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John IS the >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October 1843 >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that John was >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this time the >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger people >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli Greenlee >was bondsman for this marriage. > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's relationship to >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major Mayes. >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although I do >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was also >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed on the >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah ROACH >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is interesting >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a widower. It >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly or >never remarry at all. > >Gail > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

List: I have information which states that the widow of William Mays, Mary, married Samuel Biggerstaff (Jr). I do not have dates but it was before 01/15/1818, and perhaps in or near Cumberland Co., KY. In a quit claim deed, Mary names legetees as: Thomas Johnson and his wife Joanna, formerly Mays, Frederick Mays, Moses Cook and his wife Mary, formerly Mays, James McCarty and his wife Sarah, formerly Mays, and William Mays and his wife Susannah, daughter of the deceased William Mays. Further into this document I find where both Mary and Samuel agree to legacies which are given to Sarah Mays McCarty and Mary Mays Cook which were in the will of William Mays. >From what I gather the William Mays children were Joanna, Frederick, Mary, Sarah and Susannah. I am not clear if Sarah Mays and Mary Mays were children of the deceased William Mays by another spouse. If anyone can clear this up for me, I would appreicate your help. Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop!

1860-Grainger Co.TN The only Bibbins household- Francis Bibbins 65-female Amanda 25 Eliza J. 23 John 16 Andrew A. 7 Francis J. 6-female Joseph A. 4 Robert A. 3 James T. 6/12 Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah > Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, > and if so, do you know who his parents were? > Thanks for your assistance > Eleanor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated > names > in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. > > Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County 5 > > May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" > VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an > earlier family someplace. They had issue: > i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. > ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; served > in > Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. > iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. > iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul > 1913 > at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont > Cemetery, > Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia > Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. > v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. > ******************************** > > 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, TN, > son > of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul 1806 > in > Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in > Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . > > Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: > 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He > married Mary G. > Joyce . > 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; > died in Grainger > Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) > Louisa McElhaney . > > > DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima > DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in > order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John > DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca > SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and > singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 > in number whose names are referred to in the course of this > instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James > KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. > COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac > DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL > among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk > > MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline > McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, > DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet > undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES > land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry > MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: > Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, > Clerk. > > MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at > night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. > CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed > from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William > to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs > W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. > > MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, > Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by > their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph > DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: > Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. > (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to > include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA > as specified in his last will and testament which see". > Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. > > > Ken > > At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Dear researchers, > > > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group > although I > >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to various > >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying > off" > >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage > record > >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) > However, > >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse > L. > >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges > living > >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. > There > >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am not > sure > >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John IS > the > >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October 1843 > >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that John > was > >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this time > the > >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger > people > >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli > Greenlee > >was bondsman for this marriage. > > > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's relationship > to > >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major > Mayes. > >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although I > do > >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was > also > >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed on > the > >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > > > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah > ROACH > >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is > interesting > >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a widower. > It > >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly or > >never remarry at all. > > > >Gail > > > > > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Thanks loads, Tina - appreciate your response. I do have that 1860 census info, which doesn't really answer the question, so I thought I would try it from the Hodge direction. But thanks anyway! Eleanor McCain -----Original Message----- From: R&T_Cooke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges 1860-Grainger Co.TN The only Bibbins household- Francis Bibbins 65-female Amanda 25 Eliza J. 23 John 16 Andrew A. 7 Francis J. 6-female Joseph A. 4 Robert A. 3 James T. 6/12 Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah > Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, > and if so, do you know who his parents were? > Thanks for your assistance > Eleanor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated > names > in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. > > Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County 5 > > May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" > VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an > earlier family someplace. They had issue: > i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. > ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; served > in > Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. > iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. > iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul > 1913 > at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont > Cemetery, > Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia > Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. > v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. > ******************************** > > 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, TN, > son > of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul 1806 > in > Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in > Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . > > Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: > 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He > married Mary G. > Joyce . > 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; > died in Grainger > Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) > Louisa McElhaney . > > > DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima > DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in > order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John > DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca > SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and > singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 > in number whose names are referred to in the course of this > instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James > KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. > COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac > DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL > among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk > > MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline > McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, > DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet > undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES > land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry > MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: > Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, > Clerk. > > MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at > night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. > CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed > from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William > to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs > W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. > > MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, > Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by > their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph > DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: > Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. > (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to > include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA > as specified in his last will and testament which see". > Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. > > > Ken > > At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >Dear researchers, > > > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group > although I > >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to various > >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying > off" > >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage > record > >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) > However, > >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse > L. > >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges > living > >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. > There > >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am not > sure > >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John IS > the > >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October 1843 > >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that John > was > >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this time > the > >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger > people > >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli > Greenlee > >was bondsman for this marriage. > > > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's relationship > to > >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major > Mayes. > >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although I > do > >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was > also > >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed on > the > >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > > > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah > ROACH > >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is > interesting > >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a widower. > It > >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly or > >never remarry at all. > > > >Gail > > > > > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

Hey there I found this on the net.Will it help you out? Here is the link- http://www.rootsweb.com/~tlmorris/bibbins/newqueries.html Mon Nov 9 09:51:21 1998 Home page: Elijah BIBBINS m Frances (Franky) SOLOMON 10-18-1821 in Grainger Co TN. Had several children including Jeremiah (BIBENS) 1823-1906. Most descendants still live in eastern TN (as BIBBINS). Where and when was Elijah born and died? Who were his parents? Charles Bibbins, 58 Maplewood Ave, Maplewood NJ 07040 [email protected] Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > Thanks loads, Tina - appreciate your response. I do have that 1860 > census info, which doesn't really answer the question, so I thought I > would try it from the Hodge direction. But thanks anyway! > Eleanor McCain > > -----Original Message----- > From: R&T_Cooke [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > 1860-Grainger Co.TN > The only Bibbins household- > Francis Bibbins 65-female > Amanda 25 > Eliza J. 23 > John 16 > Andrew A. 7 > Francis J. 6-female > Joseph A. 4 > Robert A. 3 > James T. 6/12 > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:35 PM > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > > > Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah > > Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, > > and if so, do you know who his parents were? > > Thanks for your assistance > > Eleanor > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:34 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > > > The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated > > names > > in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. > > > > Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County > 5 > > > > May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" > > VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an > > earlier family someplace. They had issue: > > i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. > > ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; > served > > in > > Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. > > iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. > > iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul > > 1913 > > at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont > > Cemetery, > > Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia > > Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. > > v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. > > ******************************** > > > > 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, > TN, > > son > > of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul > 1806 > > in > > Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in > > Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . > > > > Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: > > 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He > > married Mary G. > > Joyce . > > 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; > > died in Grainger > > Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) > > Louisa McElhaney . > > > > > > DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima > > DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in > > order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John > > DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca > > SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and > > singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 > > in number whose names are referred to in the course of this > > instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James > > KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. > > COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac > > DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL > > among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk > > > > MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline > > McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, > > DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet > > undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES > > land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry > > MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: > > Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, > > Clerk. > > > > MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at > > night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. > > CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed > > from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William > > to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs > > W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. > > > > MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, > > Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by > > their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph > > DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: > > Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. > > (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to > > include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA > > as specified in his last will and testament which see". > > Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. > > > > > > Ken > > > > At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Dear researchers, > > > > > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group > > although I > > >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to > various > > >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying > > off" > > >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage > > record > > >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) > > However, > > >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse > > L. > > >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges > > living > > >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. > > There > > >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am > not > > sure > > >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John > IS > > the > > >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October > 1843 > > >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that > John > > was > > >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this > time > > the > > >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger > > people > > >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli > > Greenlee > > >was bondsman for this marriage. > > > > > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's > relationship > > to > > >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major > > Mayes. > > >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although > I > > do > > >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was > > also > > >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed > on > > the > > >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > > > > > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah > > ROACH > > >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is > > interesting > > >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a > widower. > > It > > >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly > or > > >never remarry at all. > > > > > >Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Good morning, Tina - thanks for trying. Charlie and I are in touch on a regular basis, although he has determined the TN Bibbins are not his. Sorry I did not respond sooner, I did not see your email come in! I do appreciate everyone's help!! It does begin to look as if Elijah was from Knox Co. KY, but I have not ventured into that angle yet. He was gone from Grainger Co. by 1830. Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: R&T_Cooke [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges Hey there I found this on the net.Will it help you out? Here is the link- http://www.rootsweb.com/~tlmorris/bibbins/newqueries.html Mon Nov 9 09:51:21 1998 Home page: Elijah BIBBINS m Frances (Franky) SOLOMON 10-18-1821 in Grainger Co TN. Had several children including Jeremiah (BIBENS) 1823-1906. Most descendants still live in eastern TN (as BIBBINS). Where and when was Elijah born and died? Who were his parents? Charles Bibbins, 58 Maplewood Ave, Maplewood NJ 07040 [email protected] Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > Thanks loads, Tina - appreciate your response. I do have that 1860 > census info, which doesn't really answer the question, so I thought I > would try it from the Hodge direction. But thanks anyway! > Eleanor McCain > > -----Original Message----- > From: R&T_Cooke [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > 1860-Grainger Co.TN > The only Bibbins household- > Francis Bibbins 65-female > Amanda 25 > Eliza J. 23 > John 16 > Andrew A. 7 > Francis J. 6-female > Joseph A. 4 > Robert A. 3 > James T. 6/12 > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:35 PM > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > > > Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah > > Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, > > and if so, do you know who his parents were? > > Thanks for your assistance > > Eleanor > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:34 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges > > > > The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated > > names > > in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. > > > > Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County > 5 > > > > May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" > > VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an > > earlier family someplace. They had issue: > > i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. > > ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; > served > > in > > Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. > > iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. > > iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul > > 1913 > > at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont > > Cemetery, > > Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia > > Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. > > v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. > > ******************************** > > > > 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, > TN, > > son > > of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul > 1806 > > in > > Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in > > Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . > > > > Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: > > 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He > > married Mary G. > > Joyce . > > 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; > > died in Grainger > > Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) > > Louisa McElhaney . > > > > > > DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima > > DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in > > order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John > > DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca > > SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and > > singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 > > in number whose names are referred to in the course of this > > instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James > > KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. > > COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac > > DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL > > among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk > > > > MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline > > McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, > > DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet > > undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES > > land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry > > MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: > > Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, > > Clerk. > > > > MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at > > night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. > > CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed > > from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William > > to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs > > W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. > > > > MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, > > Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by > > their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph > > DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: > > Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. > > (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to > > include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA > > as specified in his last will and testament which see". > > Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. > > > > > > Ken > > > > At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Dear researchers, > > > > > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group > > although I > > >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to > various > > >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying > > off" > > >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage > > record > > >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) > > However, > > >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse > > L. > > >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges > > living > > >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. > > There > > >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am > not > > sure > > >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John > IS > > the > > >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October > 1843 > > >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that > John > > was > > >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this > time > > the > > >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger > > people > > >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli > > Greenlee > > >was bondsman for this marriage. > > > > > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's > relationship > > to > > >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major > > Mayes. > > >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although > I > > do > > >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was > > also > > >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed > on > > the > > >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > > > > > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah > > ROACH > > >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is > > interesting > > >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a > widower. > > It > > >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly > or > > >never remarry at all. > > > > > >Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

Hi Eleanor, Sorry but I couldn't locate anything on Joseph Bibbins and Sarah. The only thing I found on Bibbins was the following: Subject: #3 school dist 7, 1833 District No. 7 No Children 50 ......20th Augt 1833 A true list of all the Children between the age of six and eighteen in the bounds of District No 7 F BIBBINS........................................4 Ken At 03:35 PM 03/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah >Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, >and if so, do you know who his parents were? >Thanks for your assistance >Eleanor

Thanks Kenneth, sure appreciate your response. I have that info also. It's been like pulling hen's teeth, just finding one tidbit at a time. But they are beginning to add up, slowly. Thanks again for trying Eleanor McCain -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges Hi Eleanor, Sorry but I couldn't locate anything on Joseph Bibbins and Sarah. The only thing I found on Bibbins was the following: Subject: #3 school dist 7, 1833 District No. 7 No Children 50 ......20th Augt 1833 A true list of all the Children between the age of six and eighteen in the bounds of District No 7 F BIBBINS........................................4 Ken At 03:35 PM 03/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Kenneth Hodge - there is a marriage record for Joseph Bibbins to Sarah >Hodge/s 8 Sept. 1878, Grainger Co. Do you have her in your database, >and if so, do you know who his parents were? >Thanks for your assistance >Eleanor ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]