Lists: As many know I am looking for Mayes connections (Mayes, Maize, Maze, Mays, Masye) to many of our east Tennessee families in an attempt to locate and identify ancestors of and children of John Mayes 1774-NC 1848-Grainger Co.,TN. Of all the documents and areas I've searched, and researched, I've only seen one reference to his identity as being called "Big" John Mayes however most know him as Big John Mayes. In the 1850 Hancock Co., TN census I located a John Maze and spouse Elizabeth, with John being born probably between 1822-1824 and Elizabeth around 1828. This young couple had two children, Beverly (a son) and Susan. I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other Mayes lines in that area. I have also found two young Mayes children who were living with a Cox family. I do not have the document with me but it would have been 1850 or 1860, and these children were young. If anyone has any information they can share or an area to point me to for additional research I would appreciate the help. not always, but if an orphan maybe.... of course Orphan usually only meant that the Father had died, but not neccasarily that the Mother had also.. Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheri P. Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > Question: If a child was apprenticed, would that child live with the new family, and be enumerated with them as well? > Sheri > > SharR wrote: > I have this book and I already looked when you first sent that info > in....there was nothing on either of those names, sorry > SharR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:23 AM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > "Grainger County, Tennessee Apprenticeships 1797-1875" by Alan N. Miller > II > > I noticed that this book was mentioned - does someone have it and would be > > willing to do a lookup for me? I am searching for apprenticeship record > on Adam > > STROPES to Mr. THARP in about 1800. It may have just been a guardianship > of > > an orphan, but I suspect it was an apprenticeship as Adam was 8. I do not > > know what happened to his other brothers and sister. > > Thank you > > Denise > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] Sheri Kelly [email protected] VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD "Genealogy IS Perpetual!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Dear Sheri, . You said, "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other Mayes lines in that area. " I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you were getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big John" and Nancy's son. I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is NOT John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, but i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who married Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say that I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting to the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. Will write as soon as the materials come in). How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed the administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the estate. These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with settling the estate. Bye for Now, Gail in MO

Dear Sheri, (and anyone else who is interested in the family of Big John Mayes.) Further re: John Mayes son of "Big" John. If you read the entire thread at GenForum you will note that Ruby Sharp mentioned that the letter of administration gave John Mayes, Jr.'s middle initial, N. and that knowing the middle initial could be helpful. (Unfortunately, no initial is given for the John I believe to be Big John's son on the 1850 census.) I appear to have missed transcribing this John's household on one of my several trips through the 1860 Grainger County census. I don't have this census on CD (CDs are really terrific, but I really hate to buy censuses I already have on microfilm.) I have been trying to find time to run over to my neighbor's (she has a microfilm reader) and see if I can find this John. Anyway I am still hoping to get a chance to do this. I may try ancestry later this evening. I mean REALLY late this evening <grin>, but even on the larger and faster computer my husband usually uses ancestry images are sooo slow loading that I think I would just prefer to wait until I have access to a microfilm reader. I finally got a chance to get off this farm and do some research last week. Unfortunately a microfilm I had ordered into the FHC in St. Joe had not yet come in so I journeyed to my genealogy society library to view the dread 1870 Grainger County census. I discovered many years ago that my gen library had a copy of the 1870 Grainger County census (a census I never intend to purchase in any form and have never even TRIED to view on ancestry.com) and that I could actually read it on the reader/printer at my genealogy library. Unfortunately everyone wants to use the reader/printer so I have to be patient. For some years now whenever I am at the library and have nothing else to work on and the reader/printer is available I have been ploughing through the 1870 Grainger County census. Anyway Sheri, I didn't find the household of the right John Mayes. I did locate Mark Daniel and am hoping to find John next time provided he hadn't died or left the county by 1870. Sorry to natter on so guys<grin>, but there have been quite a few remarks about the 1870 Grainger census on the list recently... I still remember my first attempts to decipher this census on my neighbor's little microfilm machine some years ago. She was sitting quietly in the office working on her own genealogy materials and I was viewing this census in the living room and I kept bursting in on her yelling about all the initials. I eventually calmed down and realized that most of my ancestors and connections were listed under their full names. (Regrettably this is the section of the census that was done in what I am convinced was disappearing ink.) On this first trip through I ONLY transcribed the households of my ancestors and their closest connections. This is not my all time favorite census. Bye for now, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 20:01 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > Dear Sheri, > . > You said, > > "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. > This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other Mayes > lines in that area. " > > I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you were > getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big > John" and Nancy's son. > > I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is NOT > John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. > > See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ > > Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html > > Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, but > i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who married > Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." > > (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say that > I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret > Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son > (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been > discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting to > the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. > Will write as soon as the materials come in). > > How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities > (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? > Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed the > administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a > son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and > son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the estate. > These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't > think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators > would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with > settling the estate. > > Bye for Now, > > Gail in MO > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Gail: When you say St. Joe are you in St. Joseph, Missouri? If so, do you ever get down to the genealogy library at the Mid Continent Library in Independence, MO. They have a pretty good section that includes information from other areas of the US and not just Independence, Jackson County or Missouri. In fact, I have donated some materials I purchased while doing my own family research. I usually make copies of what I want and ship it to them from Ohio. Unfortunately I don't have much from Grainger County because they don't have an active genealogy society that publishes materials. I have recently located some from S-K Publications and plan to order them as my time and money permits. Again, as soon as I finish with them I will donate to the library in Independence. Just a thought in case that's where you are located. Conni Mitchell Braun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > Dear Sheri, (and anyone else who is interested in the family of Big John > Mayes.) > > Further re: John Mayes son of "Big" John. If you read the entire thread at > GenForum you will note that Ruby Sharp mentioned that the letter of > administration gave John Mayes, Jr.'s middle initial, N. and that knowing > the middle initial could be helpful. (Unfortunately, no initial is given > for the John I believe to be Big John's son on the 1850 census.) I appear > to have missed transcribing this John's household on one of my several trips > through the 1860 Grainger County census. I don't have this census on CD > (CDs are really terrific, but I really hate to buy censuses I already have > on microfilm.) I have been trying to find time to run over to my neighbor's > (she has a microfilm reader) and see if I can find this John. > > Anyway I am still hoping to get a chance to do this. I may try ancestry > later this evening. I mean REALLY late this evening <grin>, but even on the > larger and faster computer my husband usually uses ancestry images are sooo > slow loading that I think I would just prefer to wait until I have access to > a microfilm reader. > > I finally got a chance to get off this farm and do some research last week. > Unfortunately a microfilm I had ordered into the FHC in St. Joe had not yet > come in so I journeyed to my genealogy society library to view the dread > 1870 Grainger County census. I discovered many years ago that my gen > library had a copy of the 1870 Grainger County census (a census I never > intend to purchase in any form and have never even TRIED to view on > ancestry.com) and that I could actually read it on the reader/printer at my > genealogy library. Unfortunately everyone wants to use the reader/printer > so I have to be patient. For some years now whenever I am at the library > and have nothing else to work on and the reader/printer is available I have > been ploughing through the 1870 Grainger County census. Anyway Sheri, I > didn't find the household of the right John Mayes. I did locate Mark Daniel > and am hoping to find John next time provided he hadn't died or left the > county by 1870. > > Sorry to natter on so guys<grin>, but there have been quite a few remarks > about the 1870 Grainger census on the list recently... I still remember my > first attempts to decipher this census on my neighbor's little microfilm > machine some years ago. She was sitting quietly in the office working on > her own genealogy materials and I was viewing this census in the living room > and I kept bursting in on her yelling about all the initials. I eventually > calmed down and realized that most of my ancestors and connections were > listed under their full names. (Regrettably this is the section of the > census that was done in what I am convinced was disappearing ink.) On this > first trip through I ONLY transcribed the households of my ancestors and > their closest connections. This is not my all time favorite census. > > Bye for now, > > Gail > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 20:01 > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > > > > Dear Sheri, > > . > > You said, > > > > "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. > > This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other > Mayes > > lines in that area. " > > > > I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you > were > > getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big > > John" and Nancy's son. > > > > I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is > NOT > > John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. > > > > See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ > > > > Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html > > > > Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, > but > > i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who > married > > Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." > > > > (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say > that > > I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret > > Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son > > (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been > > discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting > to > > the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. > > Will write as soon as the materials come in). > > > > How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities > > (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? > > Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed > the > > administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a > > son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and > > son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the > estate. > > These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't > > think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators > > would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with > > settling the estate. > > > > Bye for Now, > > > > Gail in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

--=======26EA33F2======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4C2D1F68; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Conni, Thanks so much for your contributions to MCPL. I live about 20 minutes away and do as much genealogy research in the summer that I can. Right now, I am not able to do research during the school year. Anyway, it really is a great library with a vast amount of resources. It really is worth the trip for anyone in the Kansas City area. At 08:25 PM 07/03/2003, you wrote: >When you say St. Joe are you in St. Joseph, Missouri? If so, do you ever >get down to the genealogy library at the Mid Continent Library in >Independence, MO. They have a pretty good section that includes information >from other areas of the US and not just Independence, Jackson County or >Missouri. In fact, I have donated some materials I purchased while doing my >own family research. I usually make copies of what I want and ship it to >them from Ohio. Unfortunately I don't have much from Grainger County >because they don't have an active genealogy society that publishes >materials. I have recently located some from S-K Publications and plan to >order them as my time and money permits. Again, as soon as I finish with >them I will donate to the library in Independence. > >Just a thought in case that's where you are located. >Conni Mitchell Braun --=======26EA33F2======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4C2D1F68 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 06/30/2003 --=======26EA33F2=======--