Dear Deborah, If you are still interested in further information on Emmeline's children. <smile> William, Mary Alice and Dora would have been EMMELINE'S children by her first marriage to James A. Marsh. I had amy Long information all sealed up in a mailing envelope to send to a fellow researcher and then I remembered that I had not found out what happened to John W.'s "first wife" ??<sgrin> (I really hated to unseal this envelope <smile>) so I decided to take another look at the 1870 Grainger County census. This would NOT be the first time I ever saw this census. <grin> and I should have realized that John W. had NO first wife. Years ago when I first began researching I rented the 1870 Grainger County census. I went to my neighbor's and put the film on her microfilm reader and started trying to "view" it. She was (calmly) working on some of her own research (onstantly interrupted by me as I kept running in and yelling at her <grin>). First I encountered the part where the members of the household are mostly only identified by their initials. (This led to a tirade patiently listened to by my neighbor). Eventually I figured out that the households that I was interested in (or at least interested in at that time) were living in the part of Grainger County that became Hamblen in 1870 and they were identified by their full names, but hat THIS section of the census had obviously been written in invisible ink. <grin> I eventually succeeded in transcribing the households that I was most interested in and over the years I did buy some Grainger and Hamblen County CDs and one film the 1860 Grainger County census although I don't have a reader. I did NOT buy the 1870 Grainger County, Tennessee census in ANY form. Being terminally cheap I did discover that my genealogy society library in St. Joe had the 1870 Grianger County census and since the ONLY reader I could actually READ this census on was the really good reader/printer at the NWMGS which was not always available since it was nearly always in use by people who wanted photocopies...I have NO objection to writing thisngs out although photocopies are very nice (also the quarters do add up <smile>) it was impossible to read this census on any of the other microfilm readers. <smile>) I really THOUGHT that IF John W. had been missing from Nick and Jane Long's household in 1870 I WOULD have looked looked for a marriage..<hmmm> Rather than dragging the notebook of census transcriptions done years ago off the shelf< I decided to just go online and look at the census. For the first year or so after I got online census acess I NEVER looked at the 1870 Grainger County, Tennessee on the grounds that a digitized image would be less readable than the original. Not so they are considerably better..(maybe they are made from a better film or an "enhanced" version????) Hmmm...here we have John still listed in his parents household and glancing down HERE <grin> we have the household of J. A. Stephens...wife Emeline hmmm as I told you Emmeline's name was listed as Stephens on the marriage record. Since the Longs, Stephnens, and Emmeline's parents were buried in Economy, I looked for a J. A. Stephens of the right age. (James A. Stephens July 21, 1847-20 September 1874). One of my favorite researchers <smile> did a lookup "bond only" James Stephens/"Evaline Marsh 13 October 1864. ----- Original Message ----- From: "DEBORAH ONEAL" <DRTONEAL@msn.com> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:57 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Re: Another try > Thanks. Gail for the information. I don't have that much info on Emmeline. > Most of what I do have comes from Census data etc. My main area of > concentration has been that of her sister Elizabeth's family. > > I do show Emmeline and John next household to William and Anna Marsh in > the 1880 census. If the marriage date is correct then it does appear that > John was married before as there are children listed in the home that are > too old from this marriage--Son Wallie 15 and Daughter Dora 8. Lula born > in August of 1879 fits for this couple. The image from 1900 is damaged and > too blurred to read years of marriage for John and Emeline--looks like 22 > years though? Number of children says 7 born and 5 still living with > Martha L Aug 1879 and Ada listed still in the household at census time. > > Debbie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Roorda<mailto:possum2@softhome.net> > To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Re: Another try > > > Deborah, > > Apparently both John W. and Emmeline were married before. Emmeline to a > Stephens and I have not yet figured out who John W.'s first wife would > have > been. (You really have to watch it with the Longs!) > > This is the infromation I have on John Weley's and Emmeline's mutual > children. > > > Family Group Sheet > > Subject John Wesley LONG (461)1,2,3,4 > Birth* 21 Feb 1837 Grainger County, Tennessee.5,6 > Marriage* 24 Sep 1878 Hamblen County, Tennessee.7,8 > Death* 24 Apr 1907 Hamblen County, Tennessee.9 > Burial* __ ___ ____ Economy Cemetery, Morristown, > Hamblen county, Tennessee.10 > Father* Nicholas LONG (177) (b. 15 Jul 1811, d. 26 Jun > 1896) > Mother* Jane COOTER (178) (b. 4 Sep 1814, d. 6 Nov 1900) > > Spouse* Emmeline MARSH (587)11,12,13 > Birth* 8 Sep 1847 Virginia.14,15 > Name- 24 Sep 1878 LONG16,17 > Marr: > Death* 9 Jul 1932 Hamblen County, Tennessee.18 > Burial* __ ___ ____ Economy Cemetery, Morristown, > Hamblen County, Tennessee.19 > Father* William A. MARSH (1299) (b. 17 Aug 1816, d. 13 > Apr 1893) > Mother* Annie MYERS (1300) (b. 17 Aug 1822, d. 24 Feb > 1907) > > Three Known Children > F Martha Lula LONG (736)20,21,22 > Name- HODGE23 > Marr: > Birth* __ Sep 1879 Hamblen County, Tennessee.24 > Son: circa __ ___ Carlisle W. HODGE (1387); Hamblen > 1906 County, Tennessee.25 > Son: circa __ ___ Hubert H. HODGE (1388); Hamblen > 1909 County, Tennessee.26 > Son: circa __ ___ Harold E. HODGE (1389); Hamblen > 1913 County, Tennessee.27 > Daughter: circa __ ___ Ebba O. HODGE (1390); Hamblen > 1917 County, Tennessee.28 > Marriage* Luther B. HODGE (1386) (b. circa > 1879, )29 > F Dochia LONG (588)30,31,32 > Birth* 21 Aug 1881 Hamblen County, Tennessee.33 > Death* 21 Jul 1899 (probably) Hamblen County, > Tennessee.34 > Burial* __ ___ ____ Economy Methodist Church Cemetery, > Morristown, Hamblen County, > Tennessee.35 > > F Ada N. LONG (737) > Birth* 18 Jun 1884 Hamblen County, Tennessee.36 > Name- __ ___ ____ HAZELWOOD > Marr: > Marriage* __ ___ ____ Erastus HAZELWOOD (1241) (b. 1887, > d. 15 Dec 1922), son of Dan W. > HAZELWOOD (1239) and Mary Eva HILL > (1240) > Daughter: circa __ ___ Alma HAZELWOOD (1391); Hamblen > 1918 County, Tennessee.37 > Death* 22 May 1938 Morristown, Hamblen County, > Tennessee.38 > Burial* __ ___ ____ Economy Cemetery, Morristown, > Hamblen County, Tennessee.39 > > Endnotes > > 1. Nicholas Long household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, > Tennessee, > population schedule, district 2, written page 24, dwelling 168, family > 162, > 21 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. > > 2. Nicholas Long household, 1860 U.S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, > population schedule, Rutledge post office, district 2, page 415A, > dwelling > 179, family 179, 12 June 1860, National Archives micropublication M653, > roll 1250. > > 3. 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, > district 2, written page 24, dwelling 168, family 162. > > 4. Ibid. > > 5. Ibid. > > 6. Hamblen County Genealogical Society, Cemeteries of Hamblen County, > Vol. > III, (Morristown, Tennessee: Hamblen County Genealogical Society, 1996), > 33. > > 7. Ibid. > > 8. Hamblen County Marriage Books 1-4 Jan. 1872-Oct. 1899 4: 144, County > Clerk's Office, Morristown, Tennessee, microfilm roll #9, Tennessee > State > Library and Archives, Nashville, Tennessee. > > 9. Marguerite W. Williams, editor, Death Records of Hamblen County, > Tennessee 1902-1950 (Morristown, Tennessee: Hamblen County Genealogical > Society, 1995), 108. Hereinafter cited as Death Records of Hamblen > County. > > 10. Cemeteries of Hamblen County, Vol. III, 33. > > 11. Ibid. > > 12. Marguerite Williams and The Hamblen County Genealogical Society, , > Some > Compiled Death Records from Hamblen County, Tennessee and Nearby Areas, > Helen Danison Richard Griscom and Doris Stump, editors, (Morristown, > Tennessee: The Hamblen County Genealogical Society and the Hamblen County > Archives), 353. > > 13. Ibid. > > 14. Cemeteries of Hamblen County, Vol. III, 33. > > 15. Williams et. al., Death Records from Hamblen County and Nearby Areas, > 353. > > 16. Cemeteries of Hamblen County, Vol. III, 33. > > 17. Hamblen County Marriage Books 1-4: 4: 144, Tennessee State Library > and > Archives, microfilm roll #9. > > 18. Williams et. al., Death Records from Hamblen County and Nearby Areas, > 353. > > 19. Cemeteries of Hamblen County, Vol. III, 33. > > 20. John Long household, 1880 U.S. census, Hamblen County, Tennessee, > population schedule, civil district 4, enumeration district 73, > supervisor's district 1, written page 27, printed page 401B, dwelling > 229, > family 229, 17 June 1880, National Archives micropublication T9, roll > 1258. > > 21. Ibid. > > 22. Ibid. > > 23. Luther B. Hodge household, 1920 U.S. census, Hamblen County, > Tennessee, > population schedule, district 1, enumeration district 52, supervisor's > district 2, sheet 6A, dwelling 102, family 112, 12 January 1920, National > Archives microfilm T625, roll 1742. > > 24. 1880 U.S. census, Hamblen County, Tennessee, population schedule, > civil > district 4, enumeration district 73, supervisor's district 1, written > page > 27, printed page 401B, dwelling 229, family 229. > > 25. 1920 U.S. census, Hamblen County, Tennessee, population schedule, > district 1, enumeration district 52, supervisor's district 2, sheet 6A, > dwelling 102, family 112. > > 26. Ibid. > > 27. Ibid. > > 28. Ibid. > > 29. Ibid. > > 30. Hamblen County Marriage Books 1-4: 4: 144, Tennessee State Library > and > Archives, microfilm roll #9. > > 31. Ibid. > > 32. Ibid. > > 33. Cemeteries of Hamblen County, Vol. III, 33. > > 34. Ibid. > > 35. Ibid. > > 36. Williams et. al., Death Records from Hamblen County and Nearby Areas, > 252. > > 37. Erastus Hazelwood household, 1920 U.S. census, Hamblen County, > Tennessee, population schedule, district 1, enumeration district 52, > supervisor's district 2, sheet 6A, dwelling 101, family 111, 12 January > 1920, National Archives microfilm T625, roll 1742. > > 38. Williams et. al., Death Records from Hamblen County and Nearby Areas, > 252. > > 39. Ibid. > > ______________________________ > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >