one clue I have on Van LONG is,he only had 1 arm and lived in BRIER FORK,Grainger Co. in the 1950,s He may have had another name,but Van is the only one I ever heard him called. Thanks, Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <TNGRAING-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <TNGRAING-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 4:00 AM Subject: TNGRAING-D Digest V06 #29