Here's part 2: ********10/29/99 email, part 2, begins here******** CENSUS RECORDS: 1850 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., p. 70, sheet 36, 10 Sept. 1850, James Cameron, age 30, male, born Tenn., Catherine, 32, f, Tenn., Wm., 6, m, Tenn., Nelson, 4, m, Tenn., James T., 1, m, Tenn. 1850 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 327-45, James Dodson, age 20, male, born Tenn., Rachel M., 20, f, Tenn., John R., 10/12, m, Tenn. 1860 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 86-446, James Cameron, age 40, Catherine, 42, Wm., 16, Nelson, 14, James S., 13, Harden, 11, John, 7. 1860 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 51-428, James Dodson, age 36, male, $1500 real property, $842 personal property, born Tenn., Rachael M., 30, f, Tenn., Tempy G., 3, f, Tenn., Wm. James, 6/12, m, Tenn. 1870 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., p. 4, sheet 40, Rutledge, 11 August 1870, lines 6-14, dwelling 28, family 28, James Cameron, 50, male, white, farmer, $2700 real estate, 4100 personal property, born Tenn., eligible to vote, Rachel, 40, f, w, housekeeping, Tenn., Hardin, 19, m, w, Tenn., John, 17, m, w, Tenn., Columbus T. Dodson, 14, f, w, Tenn., William Dodson, 11, m, w, Tenn., cannot write Tennessee Cameron, 10, f, w, Tenn., David Dodson, 7, m, w, Tenn., Nancy Dodson, 4, f, w, Tenn. 1880 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., E. D. 96, page 2, lines 19-23, 2 June James Cameron, white, male, age 60, born Tenn., father b. Va., mother b. N.C. R. M., w, f, 40, wife, Tenn., Va., Va., W. J. Dodson, w, m, 20, stepson, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., F. J. Dodson, w, m, 17, stepson, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., Norah Dodson, w, f, 15, stepdaughter, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. WILLS AND PROBATE RECORDS: Final Administration of the Estate of James Cameron, 31 January 1889, accounts noted as of 20 March 1886. (Grainger County, Probate Records) Inventory of the Estate of Rachel Cameron by R. H. Grove, Administrator, 1 September 1890. (Grainger County, Probate Records) ******** I can possibly check a little further on the Grove family. I remember looking up some census records on them some time ago to confirm the findings above. Census records are well known for misspelled names and wrong ages. As indicated below, Reuben, Sr., and Nancy were probably living with George in the 1850 census. My spelling of Grove comes from George's signature in my great, great grandfather's Southern Claims Commission file and R. H. Grove's signature on Rachel (Grove) Dodson Cameron's probate records. This spelling also agrees with the marriage records. If I remember correctly, R. H. is Reuben, Jr., another son of Reuben and Nancy (Mayes) Grove. This is probably the Reuben who married Jane Mayes in 1843. And the 1806 marriage is his parents as confirmed below. Although Goodspeed's biographies are not always accurate either, it states that George's parents were Reuben Grove, born 19 Mar 1777, Loudon Co., VA, died 16 Sep 1866, at George's home, Daisydell, Grainger Co., Tenn., and Nancy Mayes, born 13 Oct 1788, Grainger Co., Tenn., and died [no day] Apr 1852, also at George's home in Daisydell. George was postmaster there as well as clerk and master of chancery court for Grainger Co., 1877-and still serving in 1887. The father in 1801 came with his parents to Grainger County, and after marrying in 1806 and living at various places, settled at our subject's home in December, 1810, as a farmer. I hope that this helps, Ross Cameron native Missourian ********10/29/99 email, part 2, ends here******** Ross Cameron >>> "Bruce Roorda" <b-roorda@msc.net> 10/29/99 11:04AM >>> Thanks so much Gail. I did have most of the information except Reuben and Jane's ages. Now I remember the discrepency was what I found puzzling although I have found wives who were that much older than their husbands. At the time I could not figure out whether Jane was Reuben's wife or his mother. However, since then I have run across the marriage between Reuben and Jane.... Well this does provide food for thought. As I have said before I am not trying to do Mayeses in America or even in Grainger County (Oh dear!!) Just my line (or lines <grin>). However, eventually you find that in order to solve the "puzzle" you just need to know more about everyone!! One researcher calls part of his web page the Mayes maze <smile> Anyway some of us are discussing some conflicting information...so thanks for all your help!! I would still like to hear from someone who is researching the Reuben Groves (have also seen this as Graves)/Nancy Mayes branch of the family! Gail in Missouri > Reuben Groves age 36 male Farmer Property Value 6,300 Born Tennessee > Jane Groves age 54 female Born Tennessee > Elizabeth Mayse age 12 female Born Tennessee > > Note - Jane age 54. The 54 is sloppy, could be a 34 or 24. > > Have two marriages that are potentials: > > Reubin Grove to Nancy Mayes 19 February 1806 > Reubin Grove Jr. to Jane Mayes 6 December 1843 > > Didn't see Reuben in the 1860 census. > > Gail in Moreno Valley, Ca. > > ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !