This MAYES is one of mine. I'm descended from Edward through his son James G. and James G.'s son Eli. James G. married Martha McDANIEL and Eli was undoubtedly named for his maternal grandfather Eli McDANIEL. The document is apparently part of how the heirs settled the estate and distributed property after Edward's death. I'm in touch with another descendant of one of James G.'s children (through James' son Jerry), and we're still not sure who Edward's parents were. I'm still working on documenting Eli, so I haven't really moved back to the James G. generation yet -- or Edward. BTW, we refer to this James as "James G." as there are other James MAYES about Grainger Co. and Tennessee and it's not hard to get them confused. Gail, I've seen transcripts of this document before, but never an original -- would you be willing to mail me a copy if I sent you my address off list? Or if you have it scanned, to e-mail me a copy? Happy to reimburse for postage and copying, of course. Regan On Jan 20, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > Deed from heirs of Edward Mayes deceased to John Mayes. > > We James G. Mayes, Hamilton roach and his wife Caroline Roach formerly > Caroline Mayse, David yates and his wife Elizabeth Yates formerly > Elizabeth > Mayse mary Kidwell formerly mary mayse robert owens and his wife > nancy owens > and Phebe mayse heirs at law of Edward mayse deceased for the > consideration > of one hundred and fifty dollars paid or ? to be paid the Receipt > of which > is hereby acknowledged have this day bargained sold and conveyed to > John > Mayse and his heirs forever our undivided interest in a certain > tract of > land situate in Grainger County Tennesssee in the 5th Civil > District of > which the said county which the said Edward mayse dide seized > adjoining the > lands of Samuel Jones John Mayse Enos Hammers and the land formerly > owned by > s? A Brooks now owned by Absolum Cameron containing twenty??? five > acres > more or less to have and to hold the same the said John mayse and > his heirs > forever?? do covenant to and with the said John mayse that we are > lawfully > seized of said land havc a good right to convey it and the same is > unencumbered and we do further covenant that we will ever defend > the title > to said land both in law and Equity witness our hands and seals this > February 14?? 1866. > > It is impossible to reproduce the signatures accurately since the > plain text > permitted in lists doesn't allow formatting. > > The following names were preceeded by acknowlege or various > abbreviations of > acknowlege with seal afterwards and interspersed with his mark or > her mark > and the marks etc. > > The signatotories were James G. Mayes, Hamilton Roach, Julia C. > Roach, David > Yates, Elizabeth Yates, Mary Kidwell, Robert Owerns, Nancy Owens, > Phebe > Mayse. > > State of Tennessee > Grainger County Personally appeard before Me M. Goldman clerk of > the the > county court of said county James G. mayse Hamilton Roach David > Yates Mary > kidwell Robert owens and Phebe Mayse part of the within named > bargainers > with whom I am personally acquainted and who awknowledged that they > Executed > the within Instrument for the purposes therein contained. witness > my hand > at aoffices this 13 day of november A. D. 1866. > > M. Goldman clk. > > and Julia C. Roach Elizabeth Yates and nancy owens wives of the said > hamilton Roach david yates and Robert owens having appeared before me > privately and a part from their said husbands and have??? > awknowledged the > Execution of said deed to have been done by them freely > intentionally and > understandingly without compulsion or constraint from their said > husbands > and for the purposes therein Expressed witness M Goldman Clerk of > said Court > at office the 13th day of November 1866 > > M. Goldman clk > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l- > request@rootsweb.com >

i posted the RICHARD & ELIZABETH MAYES MOORE the other > day. > maybe the ELIZABETH thats Sherod's dau is the same???? Sherrod's oldest daughter Elizabeth married John McCarty. John McCarty BTW was one of the signatories on the petition who WOULD have been over 21. He was born September 27, 1775. This is from John and Elizabeth Mayes family bible. No one has seen this bible for awhile, but a researcher I know has a copy of the information. Some years ago a fellow researcher and I thought we might teach a begiiner's class (we never got around to it). I thought it would be a good to practice ordering someting through Persi. I never had so I ordered a trancription of the McCarty family Bible in hopes of learning more about the Bible. The article I recived was a transcription of an older familily Bible once owned by James McCarty who was born in 1736. It BTW gives the same birthdate for John McCarty September 27 1775. I turned to my husband and said, "Gee the McCarty's really ran to family bibles! Is this fair??? I have varying and conflicting year dates for the birth of John McCarty's brother-in-law, Benjamin Ivy, my ancestor. (I often meditate on the paucity of my information compared to other researchers. Is this FAIR!! <grin> I am nevertheless reasonably certin that Benjamin Ivy was NOT 21 in 1806. Bye for Now, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Moore" <dennyswrexx2@fastmail.fm> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 17:36 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Noe Book The John Mayes who married Magaret d/o of Jacob Noe and Margaret Tate > Hello Gail and all the below MAYES are my lines. SHEROD was my > g-g-g-great grand father. and if any one has any MOOREs that are tied to > this line e me!. i posted the RICHARD & ELIZABETH MAYES MOORE the other > day. > maybe the ELIZABETH thats Sherod's dau is the same???? hmm i hadn't > thought of that. i will reread my files. the MOORE that married NANCY > ANN MAYES dau of STERLING & SALLIE CARR MAYES is who i'm looking for. > if the ELIZABETH that marr RICHARD is SHEROD's dau. then 1 of RICHARD's > sons may well be my missing greatgramp's. thankd Gail! that got me to > rethinking. Ray. > > > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:37:37 -0600, "Gail Roorda" <possum2@softhome.net> > said: >> >> Family Group Sheet >> >> Subject John MAYES (832) >> Birth* __ ___ 1780 >> Marriage* 11 Jan 1805 Grainger County, Tennessee.1 >> Death* circa __ Nov Grainger County, Tennessee. >> 1848 >> Father* >> Mother* >> >> >> Spouse* Nancy MAYES (106) >> Birth* __ ___ 1788 Henry County, Virginia. >> Death* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. >> 1839 >> Father* Sherrod MAYES (87) (b. circa 1751, d. 18 May >> 1834) >> Mother* Elizabeth D. SMITH (88) (b. between 1750 and >> 1760, d. ) >> >> Ten Known Children >> F Elizabeth MAYES (833)2,3,4 >> Name- MAY5 >> Marr: >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.6 >> 1808 >> Marriage* 20 Sep 1829 Frederick MAY (834) (b. circa 1806, >> ); Grainger County, Tennessee.7,8 >> >> >> M William MAYES (873)9,10,11 >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.12 >> 1810 >> Marriage* 20 Aug 1831 Cynthia LYNNN (875); Grainger >> County, Tennessee.13 >> >> >> F Mahala MAYES (858)14,15,16 >> Name- OLIVER17 >> Marr: >> Birth* 3 Jan 1811 Grainger County, Tennessee.18,19,20 >> Marriage* 15 Feb 1832 John L. OLIVER (859) (b. 11 Jan >> 1811, d. 11 Dec 1873); Grainger >> County, Tennessee.21 >> Death* 20 Feb 1885 Grainger County, Tennessee.22 >> Burial* __ ___ ____ Narrow Valley Cemetery, Grainger >> County, Tennessee.23 >> >> >> F Phebe MAYES (856)24,25,26 >> Name- __ ___ ____ HODGE >> Marr: >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. >> 1815 >> Marriage* 27 Feb 1835 Edward HODGE (857) (b. 1809, d. 21 >> Aug 1887); Grainger County, >> Tennessee.27,28 >> >> >> F Martha MAYES (835)29,30,31 >> Name- DANIEL32 >> Marr: >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.33 >> 1818 >> Marriage* 18 Feb 1834 Marcus L. DANIEL (836) (b. circa >> 1813, ); Grainger County, >> Tennessee.34,35 >> >> >> F Nancy MAYES (879)36,37,38 >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.39 >> 1820 >> Name- 27 Dec 1836 JOYCE >> Marr: >> Marriage* 27 Dec 1836 John JOYCE (880) (b. circa 1820, d. >> Jan 1850); Grainger County, >> Tennessee. >> >> >> M John MAYES (848)40,41,42 >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.43 >> 1822 >> Marriage* circa 26 Jun 1840 Margaret NOE (849) (b. circa 1820 No dates >> were listed >> in the TVA records for Noe Private where >> Margaret >> was buried, >> Margaret was reinterred in Heath Chapel when >> Cherokee was built); >> Grainger County, Tennessee.44,45 >> Marriage* 14 Jan 1870 Eliza FLEMING (962); Grainger >> County, Tennessee.46 >> >> >> M Berry MAYES (866)47,48,49 >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.50 >> 1825 >> >> M David MAYES (887)51,52,53 >> Birth* 6 Nov 1826 Grainger County, Tennessee.54 >> Marriage* 5 Aug 1858 Catherine VINSON (888) (b. 8 Dec >> 1836, ); Trigg County, >> Kentucky.55 >> >> >> M Thomas MAYES (892)56,57,58 >> Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.59,60 >> 1829 >> >> >> Endnotes >> >> >> >> 1. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, compiler, Grainger County Marriage Records, >> Vol >> 1 1796-1837 & Vol. 2 1838-1866 (Houston, Texas: Herb Fisher Company, >> 1964), >> : 99, microcopy, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville, >> Tennessee. >> >> 2. Big John Mayes estate settlement (1852), Grainger County Will Book 30- >> 31, Grainger County Clerk's Office, Rutledge, Tennessee, microcopy A-142, >> Tennessee State Library and Archive, Nashville, Tennessee. >> >> 3. Ibid. >> >> 4. Ibid. >> >> 5. Ibid. >> >> 6. Frederick May household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, >> Tennessee, >> population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 913, family >> 950, >> 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. >> >> 7. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 8. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 99. >> >> 9. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 10. Ibid. >> >> 11. Ibid. >> >> 12. William Mayes household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, >> population schedule, district 2, page 374A, dwelling 691, family 691, 25 >> September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. >> >> 13. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 100. >> >> 14. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 15. Ibid. >> >> 16. Ibid. >> >> 17. John L. Oliver household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, >> Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 9, page 64B, dwelling 909, >> family 944, 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, >> roll >> 88. >> >> 18. Ibid. >> >> 19. J. L. Oliver household, 1870 U.S. census, Grainger County Tennessee, >> population schedule, Rutledge post office, page 47A, dwelling 130, >> family >> >> >> 131, lines 13-19, 13 August 1870, National Archives micropublication 593, >> roll 1530. >> >> 20. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, compilers, Grainger >> County, Tennnessee Cemetery Rcords Volume II South of Clinch Mountain >> (Morristown, Tennessee: privately printed, 1985), 92. Hereinafter cited >> as >> Grainger County Cemetery Records Vol. II. >> >> 21. Byron and Barbara Sistler, compiler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, >> Volumes 1 & 2, (Nashville, Tennessee: Byron Sistler and Associates, >> Inc., >> 1987), 2: 235. Hereinafter cited as Early East Tennessee Marriages. >> >> 22. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, Grainger County Cemetery >> Records Vol. II, 92. >> >> 23. Ibid. >> >> 24. Sheila Calhoun , Re: MAYES John b. ca 1774 VA>Grainger Co. TN, >> online >> <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> posted 31 March >> 2003, printout dated 24 May 2001. William Henry Perrin, n.p. >> >> 25. Ibid. >> >> 26. Ibid. >> >> 27. Sistler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, 2: 235. >> >> 28. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online >> <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001, "It is further odered >> by >> the court that Edward Hodges the father of Nancy, Elmira, John, and Jesse >> Hodges, minors and heirs at law of the said John Mayse deceased, be and >> the >> said Edward Hodges is hereby apppointed guardian ad litum of his said >> children and minor heirs as aforesaid". >> >> 29. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 30. Ibid. >> >> 31. Ibid. >> >> 32. Ibid. >> >> 33. Marcus L. Daniel household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, >> Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 4, page 25A, dwelling 350, >> family 362, 31 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll >> 88. >> >> 34. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 35. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 39. >> >> 36. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 37. Ibid. >> >> 38. Ibid. >> >> >> 39. Nancy Joyce household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, >> population schedule, district 2, page 367B, dwelling 591, family 591, 18 >> September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. >> >> 40. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 41. Ibid. >> >> 42. Ibid. >> >> 43. John Mayse household, 1850 US census, Grainger County, Tennessee, >> population schedule, civil district 4, page 23B, dwelling 321, family >> 333, >> 30 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. >> >> 44. Ibid. >> >> 45. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 2: 132. >> >> 46. Grainger County Marriage Book 5, Grainger County Clerk's Office, >> Rutledge, Tennessee, microfilm no., frame 112, Family History Library, >> Salt Lake City Utah. >> >> 47. Grainger County Circuit Court Minutes, 2, Grainger County Courthouse, >> Rutledge, Tennessee. Hereinafter cited as Grainger County Circuit Court >> Minutes. >> >> 48. Ibid. >> >> 49. Ibid. >> >> 50. Jane Mayse household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, >> population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 914, family >> 951, >> 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. >> >> 51. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 52. Ibid. >> >> 53. Ibid. >> >> 54. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online >> <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001. >> >> 55. Ibid. >> >> 56. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. >> >> 57. Ibid. >> >> 58. Ibid. >> >> 59. Ibid. >> >> 60. George K. Redd household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, >> population schedule, district 2, page 366B, dwelling 577, family 577, 17 >> September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to >> tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com >> > DNA done. > STEVE MOORE a 25 marker. at family tree.com D629W. at ysearch MOORE DNA > PROJECT M36142 > mine a 12 marker at familytree.com FYN8F . ysearch MOORE DNA M30219 > Researching: > MOORE, ,MOOR. MOHR. 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I'm not familiar with the original document. If it's essentially just a petition (a letter making a request) then I suppose anyone could sign it. If it's some sort of legal document then probably one had to be at least 21, if not also a landowner. Just like today, different people are eligible to sign different sorts of things. "Please sign our petition to ask the city council to change the hours the gates are open at the park." vs. "Are you a registered voter? Would you like to sign the petition to nominate Joe Smith for mayor?" The first group could be anyone -- 10 years old from the little league team, whoever. The second group would have to fit into the local laws defining who can nominate someone for mayor. So is this document saying "We the undersigned would like a road." Or is it saying "We the undersigned "eligible persons" formally request the state to provide a road on the described route." Or "We the undersigned people who farm or own land agree to grant right-of- way for a road on the described route." More details on the document might give us better indications as to the group that signed. Regan On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:49 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > Dear everyone, > > I try to keep up on such things. Read up on Tennessee law, probate > (the rules changed over the years) etc., BUT is everyone CERTAIN > that one had to be a landowner in order to sign a legislative > petition. I think a little "fudging" was involved by the petioners > as far as age..at least those I know..HOWEVER are we certain that > one had to be a landowner??? > > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" > <eleanormccain@comcast.net> > To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 06:53 > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > > >> I would say yes to that probability, Regan. Thanks for sharing your >> thoughts. >> Eleanor >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Regan Conley [mailto:reganconley@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:05 PM >> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >> >> It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. >> names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been >> landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan >> was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. >> >> I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who >> simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? >> >> Regan >> >> On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: >> >>> Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according >>> to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was >>> list in the tax list. >>> Gail >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" >>> <eleanormccain@comcast.net> >>> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 >>> Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >>> >>> >>>> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >>>> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am >>>> certain >>>> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land >>>> to be >>>> able to sign this petition? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eleanor >> >> >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to >> tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l- >> request@rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l- > request@rootsweb.com >

Dear Regan, I have only the list of petioners. The pettion itself appeared in the issue of Ansearchin that wasn't at the library. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regan Conley" <reganconley@earthlink.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 22:02 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > I'm not familiar with the original document. If it's essentially just a > petition (a letter making a request) then I suppose anyone could sign it. > If it's some sort of legal document then probably one had to be at least > 21, if not also a landowner. > > Just like today, different people are eligible to sign different sorts of > things. "Please sign our petition to ask the city council to change the > hours the gates are open at the park." vs. "Are you a registered voter? > Would you like to sign the petition to nominate Joe Smith for mayor?" > The first group could be anyone -- 10 years old from the little league > team, whoever. The second group would have to fit into the local laws > defining who can nominate someone for mayor. > > So is this document saying "We the undersigned would like a road." Or is > it saying "We the undersigned "eligible persons" formally request the > state to provide a road on the described route." Or "We the undersigned > people who farm or own land agree to grant right-of- way for a road on the > described route." > > More details on the document might give us better indications as to the > group that signed. > > Regan > > > On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:49 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > >> Dear everyone, >> >> I try to keep up on such things. Read up on Tennessee law, probate (the >> rules changed over the years) etc., BUT is everyone CERTAIN that one had >> to be a landowner in order to sign a legislative petition. I think a >> little "fudging" was involved by the petioners as far as age..at least >> those I know..HOWEVER are we certain that one had to be a landowner??? >> >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" >> <eleanormccain@comcast.net> >> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 06:53 >> Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >> >> >>> I would say yes to that probability, Regan. Thanks for sharing your >>> thoughts. >>> Eleanor >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Regan Conley [mailto:reganconley@earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:05 PM >>> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >>> >>> It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. >>> names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been >>> landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan >>> was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. >>> >>> I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who >>> simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? >>> >>> Regan >>> >>> On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: >>> >>>> Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according >>>> to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was >>>> list in the tax list. >>>> Gail >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" >>>> <eleanormccain@comcast.net> >>>> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 >>>> Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >>>>> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain >>>>> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be >>>>> able to sign this petition? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Eleanor >>> >>> >>> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to >>> tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l- >>> request@rootsweb.com >>> >> >> >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l- >> request@rootsweb.com >> > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Deed from heirs of Edward Mayes deceased to John Mayes. We James G. Mayes, Hamilton roach and his wife Caroline Roach formerly Caroline Mayse, David yates and his wife Elizabeth Yates formerly Elizabeth Mayse mary Kidwell formerly mary mayse robert owens and his wife nancy owens and Phebe mayse heirs at law of Edward mayse deceased for the consideration of one hundred and fifty dollars paid or ? to be paid the Receipt of which is hereby acknowledged have this day bargained sold and conveyed to John Mayse and his heirs forever our undivided interest in a certain tract of land situate in Grainger County Tennesssee in the 5th Civil District of which the said county which the said Edward mayse dide seized adjoining the lands of Samuel Jones John Mayse Enos Hammers and the land formerly owned by s? A Brooks now owned by Absolum Cameron containing twenty??? five acres more or less to have and to hold the same the said John mayse and his heirs forever?? do covenant to and with the said John mayse that we are lawfully seized of said land havc a good right to convey it and the same is unencumbered and we do further covenant that we will ever defend the title to said land both in law and Equity witness our hands and seals this February 14?? 1866. It is impossible to reproduce the signatures accurately since the plain text permitted in lists doesn't allow formatting. The following names were preceeded by acknowlege or various abbreviations of acknowlege with seal afterwards and interspersed with his mark or her mark and the marks etc. The signatotories were James G. Mayes, Hamilton Roach, Julia C. Roach, David Yates, Elizabeth Yates, Mary Kidwell, Robert Owerns, Nancy Owens, Phebe Mayse. State of Tennessee Grainger County Personally appeard before Me M. Goldman clerk of the the county court of said county James G. mayse Hamilton Roach David Yates Mary kidwell Robert owens and Phebe Mayse part of the within named bargainers with whom I am personally acquainted and who awknowledged that they Executed the within Instrument for the purposes therein contained. witness my hand at aoffices this 13 day of november A. D. 1866. M. Goldman clk. and Julia C. Roach Elizabeth Yates and nancy owens wives of the said hamilton Roach david yates and Robert owens having appeared before me privately and a part from their said husbands and have??? awknowledged the Execution of said deed to have been done by them freely intentionally and understandingly without compulsion or constraint from their said husbands and for the purposes therein Expressed witness M Goldman Clerk of said Court at office the 13th day of November 1866 M. Goldman clk

Dear everyone, I try to keep up on such things. Read up on Tennessee law, probate (the rules changed over the years) etc., BUT is everyone CERTAIN that one had to be a landowner in order to sign a legislative petition. I think a little "fudging" was involved by the petioners as far as age..at least those I know..HOWEVER are we certain that one had to be a landowner??? Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <eleanormccain@comcast.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 06:53 Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >I would say yes to that probability, Regan. Thanks for sharing your > thoughts. > Eleanor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Regan Conley [mailto:reganconley@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:05 PM > To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > > It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. > names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been > landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan > was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. > > I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who > simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? > > Regan > > On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > >> Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according >> to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was >> list in the tax list. >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" >> <eleanormccain@comcast.net> >> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 >> Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >> >> >>> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >>> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain >>> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be >>> able to sign this petition? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eleanor > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

That's the second half of the list of names on the petition. The first half appeared the previous issue which wasn't in the NWMGS library. The Ansearchin magazine sppeared to have been donated. I don't think the library has a subscription. As I have already said according to tax lists several of these young men owned no land in 1806. Later they did own land. They bought it or inherited or their fathers turned it over to them. Despite the fact that John Ivy's tombstone in Economy says he died in in 1868 in his 85 year. Elizabeth Ivy Consort of 1880 in her 95 year.. (these are indeed their DODs I have the the exact dates.) It is generally agreed that John was the youngest Ivy. Neither John nor his wife were anywhere close to 85 or 95 when they died. A fellow Ivy researcher and I once traded a series of hilarious letters on the various dates we had for the Ivy (Ivey) brothers births. If we move them around according to dates Benjamin becomes older that Thomas etc. "Maybe they were twins." I guess they could have been <grin>..or sometimes they become triplets. Jane Howell Ivy said in a deposition in Henry's Revolutionary pension file that they kept NO record of the birth of their children.... However, although the dates vary the brothers would have been Phillip, Thomas, Benjamin and John No other brother becomes older than Phillip. Phillip WAS the oldest. Robert Alison Iveys book says Phillip Ivey was born 1780. So does George Franks Ivys Iveys in the United States (A really fascinating feature of this book is that it has my line in it twice although this is not immediately apparent on the surface! <grin>) In a deposition in Henry Howells Revolutionary person file in her sister-in- law Jane O. Collins Howells behalf Jane said Phillip was born in 1783. My records indicate this date. Now remember in Henry's file said they kept NO record NOT that she didn't KNOW. Jane was Phillip's mother..a mother would know wouldn't she. <smile> Sorry for this long dissertation but neither John Ivy or Benjamin were I think 21 in 1806. And I don't think Dudley Mayes was 21 either. IF he was 21 he was barely 21. Jesse Hodge could have been 21. Neither Jesse or Moses lived long enough to be on the 1850 census. I thought that both Jesse and Moses would have been in their mid 20s in 1806. However, Jesse was a little younger than I thought and is still listed as a male aged 16 to 26 on the 1810 census. I also looked on the 1805 tax list and several of these young men were not taxed not even as 1 fee poll. As I said years ago when I encountered this document that a little fudging was involved. As I said before I think they REALLy wanted this road change. This is not to say I don't think the document has no value. I copied and keep it in the same notebook as I keep my taxlists information. It is I believe to a certain degree a guide to the age of the petioners. A researcher located this list through a rootsweb search. Although I know nothing of the William Webster on the list of petitioners and she didn't have an exact date just a circa we could pretty well eliminate her ancestor as being the William Webster on the tax list. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <eleanormccain@comcast.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 06:53 Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >I would say yes to that probability, Regan. Thanks for sharing your > thoughts. > Eleanor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Regan Conley [mailto:reganconley@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:05 PM > To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > > It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. > names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been > landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan > was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. > > I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who > simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? > > Regan > > On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > >> Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according >> to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was >> list in the tax list. >> Gail >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" >> <eleanormccain@comcast.net> >> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 >> Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list >> >> >>> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >>> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain >>> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be >>> able to sign this petition? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eleanor > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Hello Gail and all the below MAYES are my lines. SHEROD was my g-g-g-great grand father. and if any one has any MOOREs that are tied to this line e me!. i posted the RICHARD & ELIZABETH MAYES MOORE the other day. maybe the ELIZABETH thats Sherod's dau is the same???? hmm i hadn't thought of that. i will reread my files. the MOORE that married NANCY ANN MAYES dau of STERLING & SALLIE CARR MAYES is who i'm looking for. if the ELIZABETH that marr RICHARD is SHEROD's dau. then 1 of RICHARD's sons may well be my missing greatgramp's. thankd Gail! that got me to rethinking. Ray. On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 16:37:37 -0600, "Gail Roorda" <possum2@softhome.net> said: > > Family Group Sheet > > Subject John MAYES (832) > Birth* __ ___ 1780 > Marriage* 11 Jan 1805 Grainger County, Tennessee.1 > Death* circa __ Nov Grainger County, Tennessee. > 1848 > Father* > Mother* > > > Spouse* Nancy MAYES (106) > Birth* __ ___ 1788 Henry County, Virginia. > Death* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. > 1839 > Father* Sherrod MAYES (87) (b. circa 1751, d. 18 May > 1834) > Mother* Elizabeth D. SMITH (88) (b. between 1750 and > 1760, d. ) > > Ten Known Children > F Elizabeth MAYES (833)2,3,4 > Name- MAY5 > Marr: > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.6 > 1808 > Marriage* 20 Sep 1829 Frederick MAY (834) (b. circa 1806, > ); Grainger County, Tennessee.7,8 > > > M William MAYES (873)9,10,11 > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.12 > 1810 > Marriage* 20 Aug 1831 Cynthia LYNNN (875); Grainger > County, Tennessee.13 > > > F Mahala MAYES (858)14,15,16 > Name- OLIVER17 > Marr: > Birth* 3 Jan 1811 Grainger County, Tennessee.18,19,20 > Marriage* 15 Feb 1832 John L. OLIVER (859) (b. 11 Jan > 1811, d. 11 Dec 1873); Grainger > County, Tennessee.21 > Death* 20 Feb 1885 Grainger County, Tennessee.22 > Burial* __ ___ ____ Narrow Valley Cemetery, Grainger > County, Tennessee.23 > > > F Phebe MAYES (856)24,25,26 > Name- __ ___ ____ HODGE > Marr: > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. > 1815 > Marriage* 27 Feb 1835 Edward HODGE (857) (b. 1809, d. 21 > Aug 1887); Grainger County, > Tennessee.27,28 > > > F Martha MAYES (835)29,30,31 > Name- DANIEL32 > Marr: > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.33 > 1818 > Marriage* 18 Feb 1834 Marcus L. DANIEL (836) (b. circa > 1813, ); Grainger County, > Tennessee.34,35 > > > F Nancy MAYES (879)36,37,38 > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.39 > 1820 > Name- 27 Dec 1836 JOYCE > Marr: > Marriage* 27 Dec 1836 John JOYCE (880) (b. circa 1820, d. > Jan 1850); Grainger County, > Tennessee. > > > M John MAYES (848)40,41,42 > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.43 > 1822 > Marriage* circa 26 Jun 1840 Margaret NOE (849) (b. circa 1820 No dates > were listed > in the TVA records for Noe Private where > Margaret > was buried, > Margaret was reinterred in Heath Chapel when > Cherokee was built); > Grainger County, Tennessee.44,45 > Marriage* 14 Jan 1870 Eliza FLEMING (962); Grainger > County, Tennessee.46 > > > M Berry MAYES (866)47,48,49 > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.50 > 1825 > > M David MAYES (887)51,52,53 > Birth* 6 Nov 1826 Grainger County, Tennessee.54 > Marriage* 5 Aug 1858 Catherine VINSON (888) (b. 8 Dec > 1836, ); Trigg County, > Kentucky.55 > > > M Thomas MAYES (892)56,57,58 > Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.59,60 > 1829 > > > Endnotes > > > > 1. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, compiler, Grainger County Marriage Records, > Vol > 1 1796-1837 & Vol. 2 1838-1866 (Houston, Texas: Herb Fisher Company, > 1964), > : 99, microcopy, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville, > Tennessee. > > 2. Big John Mayes estate settlement (1852), Grainger County Will Book 30- > 31, Grainger County Clerk's Office, Rutledge, Tennessee, microcopy A-142, > Tennessee State Library and Archive, Nashville, Tennessee. > > 3. Ibid. > > 4. Ibid. > > 5. Ibid. > > 6. Frederick May household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, > Tennessee, > population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 913, family > 950, > 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. > > 7. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 8. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 99. > > 9. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 10. Ibid. > > 11. Ibid. > > 12. William Mayes household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, > population schedule, district 2, page 374A, dwelling 691, family 691, 25 > September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. > > 13. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 100. > > 14. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 15. Ibid. > > 16. Ibid. > > 17. John L. Oliver household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, > Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 9, page 64B, dwelling 909, > family 944, 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, > roll > 88. > > 18. Ibid. > > 19. J. L. Oliver household, 1870 U.S. census, Grainger County Tennessee, > population schedule, Rutledge post office, page 47A, dwelling 130, > family > > > 131, lines 13-19, 13 August 1870, National Archives micropublication 593, > roll 1530. > > 20. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, compilers, Grainger > County, Tennnessee Cemetery Rcords Volume II South of Clinch Mountain > (Morristown, Tennessee: privately printed, 1985), 92. Hereinafter cited > as > Grainger County Cemetery Records Vol. II. > > 21. Byron and Barbara Sistler, compiler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, > Volumes 1 & 2, (Nashville, Tennessee: Byron Sistler and Associates, > Inc., > 1987), 2: 235. Hereinafter cited as Early East Tennessee Marriages. > > 22. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, Grainger County Cemetery > Records Vol. II, 92. > > 23. Ibid. > > 24. Sheila Calhoun , Re: MAYES John b. ca 1774 VA>Grainger Co. TN, > online > <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> posted 31 March > 2003, printout dated 24 May 2001. William Henry Perrin, n.p. > > 25. Ibid. > > 26. Ibid. > > 27. Sistler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, 2: 235. > > 28. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online > <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001, "It is further odered > by > the court that Edward Hodges the father of Nancy, Elmira, John, and Jesse > Hodges, minors and heirs at law of the said John Mayse deceased, be and > the > said Edward Hodges is hereby apppointed guardian ad litum of his said > children and minor heirs as aforesaid". > > 29. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 30. Ibid. > > 31. Ibid. > > 32. Ibid. > > 33. Marcus L. Daniel household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, > Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 4, page 25A, dwelling 350, > family 362, 31 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll > 88. > > 34. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 35. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 39. > > 36. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 37. Ibid. > > 38. Ibid. > > > 39. Nancy Joyce household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, > population schedule, district 2, page 367B, dwelling 591, family 591, 18 > September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. > > 40. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 41. Ibid. > > 42. Ibid. > > 43. John Mayse household, 1850 US census, Grainger County, Tennessee, > population schedule, civil district 4, page 23B, dwelling 321, family > 333, > 30 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. > > 44. Ibid. > > 45. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 2: 132. > > 46. Grainger County Marriage Book 5, Grainger County Clerk's Office, > Rutledge, Tennessee, microfilm no., frame 112, Family History Library, > Salt Lake City Utah. > > 47. Grainger County Circuit Court Minutes, 2, Grainger County Courthouse, > Rutledge, Tennessee. Hereinafter cited as Grainger County Circuit Court > Minutes. > > 48. Ibid. > > 49. Ibid. > > 50. Jane Mayse household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, > population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 914, family > 951, > 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. > > 51. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 52. Ibid. > > 53. Ibid. > > 54. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online > <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001. > > 55. Ibid. > > 56. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. > > 57. Ibid. > > 58. Ibid. > > 59. Ibid. > > 60. George K. Redd household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, > population schedule, district 2, page 366B, dwelling 577, family 577, 17 > September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > DNA done. STEVE MOORE a 25 marker. at family tree.com D629W. at ysearch MOORE DNA PROJECT M36142 mine a 12 marker at familytree.com FYN8F . ysearch MOORE DNA M30219 Researching: MOORE, ,MOOR. MOHR. MAYES, MAYS, MAZE, MIZE, MAISE, MAIZE, CARR, COX, COURTNEY, MYERS, TOWNSLEY, POWERS, GRUBBS, GRUBB, POE, (SMITH 4 lines) RUSSELL, LEWIS, DUNN, WHITEAKER, WHITAKER, REECE, HUNDLEY/HUNLEY, MANIS, MOLES, NEWBY. 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Family Group Sheet Subject John MAYES (832) Birth* __ ___ 1780 Marriage* 11 Jan 1805 Grainger County, Tennessee.1 Death* circa __ Nov Grainger County, Tennessee. 1848 Father* Mother* Spouse* Nancy MAYES (106) Birth* __ ___ 1788 Henry County, Virginia. Death* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. 1839 Father* Sherrod MAYES (87) (b. circa 1751, d. 18 May 1834) Mother* Elizabeth D. SMITH (88) (b. between 1750 and 1760, d. ) Ten Known Children F Elizabeth MAYES (833)2,3,4 Name- MAY5 Marr: Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.6 1808 Marriage* 20 Sep 1829 Frederick MAY (834) (b. circa 1806, ); Grainger County, Tennessee.7,8 M William MAYES (873)9,10,11 Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.12 1810 Marriage* 20 Aug 1831 Cynthia LYNNN (875); Grainger County, Tennessee.13 F Mahala MAYES (858)14,15,16 Name- OLIVER17 Marr: Birth* 3 Jan 1811 Grainger County, Tennessee.18,19,20 Marriage* 15 Feb 1832 John L. OLIVER (859) (b. 11 Jan 1811, d. 11 Dec 1873); Grainger County, Tennessee.21 Death* 20 Feb 1885 Grainger County, Tennessee.22 Burial* __ ___ ____ Narrow Valley Cemetery, Grainger County, Tennessee.23 F Phebe MAYES (856)24,25,26 Name- __ ___ ____ HODGE Marr: Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee. 1815 Marriage* 27 Feb 1835 Edward HODGE (857) (b. 1809, d. 21 Aug 1887); Grainger County, Tennessee.27,28 F Martha MAYES (835)29,30,31 Name- DANIEL32 Marr: Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.33 1818 Marriage* 18 Feb 1834 Marcus L. DANIEL (836) (b. circa 1813, ); Grainger County, Tennessee.34,35 F Nancy MAYES (879)36,37,38 Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.39 1820 Name- 27 Dec 1836 JOYCE Marr: Marriage* 27 Dec 1836 John JOYCE (880) (b. circa 1820, d. Jan 1850); Grainger County, Tennessee. M John MAYES (848)40,41,42 Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.43 1822 Marriage* circa 26 Jun 1840 Margaret NOE (849) (b. circa 1820 No dates were listed in the TVA records for Noe Private where Margaret was buried, Margaret was reinterred in Heath Chapel when Cherokee was built); Grainger County, Tennessee.44,45 Marriage* 14 Jan 1870 Eliza FLEMING (962); Grainger County, Tennessee.46 M Berry MAYES (866)47,48,49 Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.50 1825 M David MAYES (887)51,52,53 Birth* 6 Nov 1826 Grainger County, Tennessee.54 Marriage* 5 Aug 1858 Catherine VINSON (888) (b. 8 Dec 1836, ); Trigg County, Kentucky.55 M Thomas MAYES (892)56,57,58 Birth* circa __ ___ Grainger County, Tennessee.59,60 1829 Endnotes 1. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, compiler, Grainger County Marriage Records, Vol 1 1796-1837 & Vol. 2 1838-1866 (Houston, Texas: Herb Fisher Company, 1964), : 99, microcopy, Tennessee State Library and Archives, Nashville, Tennessee. 2. Big John Mayes estate settlement (1852), Grainger County Will Book 30- 31, Grainger County Clerk's Office, Rutledge, Tennessee, microcopy A-142, Tennessee State Library and Archive, Nashville, Tennessee. 3. Ibid. 4. Ibid. 5. Ibid. 6. Frederick May household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 913, family 950, 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. 7. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 8. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 99. 9. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 10. Ibid. 11. Ibid. 12. William Mayes household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, population schedule, district 2, page 374A, dwelling 691, family 691, 25 September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. 13. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 100. 14. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 15. Ibid. 16. Ibid. 17. John L. Oliver household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 9, page 64B, dwelling 909, family 944, 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. 18. Ibid. 19. J. L. Oliver household, 1870 U.S. census, Grainger County Tennessee, population schedule, Rutledge post office, page 47A, dwelling 130, family 131, lines 13-19, 13 August 1870, National Archives micropublication 593, roll 1530. 20. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, compilers, Grainger County, Tennnessee Cemetery Rcords Volume II South of Clinch Mountain (Morristown, Tennessee: privately printed, 1985), 92. Hereinafter cited as Grainger County Cemetery Records Vol. II. 21. Byron and Barbara Sistler, compiler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, Volumes 1 & 2, (Nashville, Tennessee: Byron Sistler and Associates, Inc., 1987), 2: 235. Hereinafter cited as Early East Tennessee Marriages. 22. Clarence McGinnis and Stella Grace McGinnis, Grainger County Cemetery Records Vol. II, 92. 23. Ibid. 24. Sheila Calhoun , Re: MAYES John b. ca 1774 VA>Grainger Co. TN, online <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> posted 31 March 2003, printout dated 24 May 2001. William Henry Perrin, n.p. 25. Ibid. 26. Ibid. 27. Sistler, Early East Tennessee Marriages, 2: 235. 28. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001, "It is further odered by the court that Edward Hodges the father of Nancy, Elmira, John, and Jesse Hodges, minors and heirs at law of the said John Mayse deceased, be and the said Edward Hodges is hereby apppointed guardian ad litum of his said children and minor heirs as aforesaid". 29. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 30. Ibid. 31. Ibid. 32. Ibid. 33. Marcus L. Daniel household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 4, page 25A, dwelling 350, family 362, 31 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. 34. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 35. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 1: 39. 36. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 37. Ibid. 38. Ibid. 39. Nancy Joyce household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, population schedule, district 2, page 367B, dwelling 591, family 591, 18 September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219. 40. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 41. Ibid. 42. Ibid. 43. John Mayse household, 1850 US census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, civil district 4, page 23B, dwelling 321, family 333, 30 August 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. 44. Ibid. 45. Billie Wyrick Kennerly, Grainger County Marriage Records, 2: 132. 46. Grainger County Marriage Book 5, Grainger County Clerk's Office, Rutledge, Tennessee, microfilm no., frame 112, Family History Library, Salt Lake City Utah. 47. Grainger County Circuit Court Minutes, 2, Grainger County Courthouse, Rutledge, Tennessee. Hereinafter cited as Grainger County Circuit Court Minutes. 48. Ibid. 49. Ibid. 50. Jane Mayse household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, population schedule, Civil District 9, page 65A, dwelling 914, family 951, 03 October 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 88. 51. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 52. Ibid. 53. Ibid. 54. Sheila Calhoun, "History of Trigg County, Kentucky," online <http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes> 24 May 2001. 55. Ibid. 56. Grainger County Will Book 30-31. 57. Ibid. 58. Ibid. 59. Ibid. 60. George K. Redd household, 1850 U.S. Census, Trigg County, Kentucky, population schedule, district 2, page 366B, dwelling 577, family 577, 17 September 1850, National Archives micropublication M432, roll 219.

I would say yes to that probability, Regan. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: Regan Conley [mailto:reganconley@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:05 PM To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? Regan On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according > to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was > list in the tax list. > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" > <eleanormccain@comcast.net> > To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > > >> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain >> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be >> able to sign this petition? >> >> Thanks, >> Eleanor ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com

It also strikes me that there are a lot of well known Grainger Co. names missing from that, too. People who likely would have been landowners and over 21. Given how thick on the ground the Mayes clan was, it seems unusual that there is just one one the whole list. I wonder if the petitioners are those people/heads of household who simply lived or farmed along the proposed road? Regan On Jan 19, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Gail Roorda wrote: > Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according > to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was > list in the tax list. > Gail > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" > <eleanormccain@comcast.net> > To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > > >> Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 >> legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain >> they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be >> able to sign this petition? >> >> Thanks, >> Eleanor

Thank you...David & Phoebe are mine. My Moses would be much older than the one listed in the 1860 census; however, I am sure the 1830 census is mine. Thanks for your info. -----Original Message----- From: Grace McGinnis [mailto:mcginnis@planetc.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:20 AM To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Re: 1806 Legislative Petition of the citizens of Grainger and Claiborne Counties to changes the road to Kentucky John Duke married Susanna Easley 1803 in Grainger Co., Tn. I believe the Pleasant Duke on the petition is his brother. John and Susanna also had a son Pleasant Duke. The younger Pleasant is named in the settlement of the estate of Miller Easley, father of Susanna, 1846 in Grainger. Regarding Moses Collins- he is listed on the 1830 and 1840 census of Claiborne Co., Tn. A Moses Collins married Elizabeth Atkins 10 March 1850 in Grainger Co., Tn. I believe this Moses is listed on the 1860 census of Claiborne Co., Tn., 6th sub-div Tazewell- Moses Collins 58, Elizabeth 25, Louverna 3, Milam Shiplet 23, Jane 28, John 3, Mary A. 6/12 1850 census Claiborne Co., Tn #1021-1021 David Collins 60, b Va, Phebe 50, b Tn, Cassa 35, b Tn, William D. 3 b Tn. Sorry I can't be of more help. Grace ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: 1/14/2006

Arlene You said, > Published in 1998 by Virginia Rowland of Haysville, KS. Probably sold out > by now. Few years ago didn't have many left. > Arlene There are errors in this book. Which is not to say it has no value. It sounds to me as if it is a pretty good book and I would love to have this book as well as the earlier Noe book by Paula Yost. I am not descended from the Noes just endlIessly "connected" to them. I am not able to afford all genealogical publications, even though I would like to. I try not to critique books by living authors at least in public. However, since I have already shot my mouth off at the list several years ago..I might as well continue. How do I know there are errors in a book that I have never seen? Here is a resend of a message that Grace sent to the list: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace McGinnis" <mcginnis@planetc.com> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:02 Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Re: John Mayes and Margaret Noe > Sheri- > This is what I have on this family. > > Margaret Noe b 1820 married 26 June 1840 Grainger Co., Tn > John Mayes, son of Edward P. Mayes Sr. Children: > 1. Comfort Mayes b 1841 mar Thomas Rich > 2. Nancy Mayes b 1843 > 3. Margaret Mayes b 1845 mar Joseph Beets > 4. Mary Catherine Mayes b 1846 mar G. G. Hill > 5. Amanda Mayes b 1847 > 6. Martha Mahalia Mayes b 1850 mar John Beets > > This information from "Peter Noe and his Noe/Noey/Noah Descendants" by > Virginia Rowland. > > Grace > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Further Moses and Jesse Hodge and John McCarty at least according to the 1810 tax list owned no land in 1810 or at least no land was list in the tax list. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELEANOR McCAIN" <eleanormccain@comcast.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 07:10 Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list > Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 > legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain > they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be > able to sign this petition? > > > > Thanks, > > Eleanor > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com > >

Thanks, James! I figured as much, just wanted to be sure. Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: JAMES K COOK [mailto:JKC837@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:12 AM To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list MOST LIKELY THE PETITIONERS WOULD HAVE HAD TO OWN LAND. JAMES ----- Original Message ----- From: ELEANOR McCAIN<mailto:eleanormccain@comcast.net> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be able to sign this petition? Thanks, Eleanor ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com

> MOST LIKELY THE PETITIONERS WOULD HAVE HAD TO OWN LAND. Re land ownership. Perhaps that is true, but regarding land ownership on the 1810 Grainger County and the persons in column 1 which are as I said the only signatories I know anything about.... Dudley Mayes and his brother-in- law my 3rd great grandfather Benajmin Ivy were only taxed on a free poll iun the 1810 Grainger County tax list. Maybe you didn't have own land? OTOH <grin> maybe the petioners wanted a change in the road pretty badly. <samile> However, one would assume eligibility to vote WOULD be a prerequisite for signing a petition..<smile> Re the AGES of these signatories. Years ago when I first posted this petition to the East Tennessee L list...is this list still funtioning? I don't seem to have much time for lists anymore except for this one...My question being whether you wouldn't have had to be 21 to sgn such a petition. Nobody answered my question, but as I informed this list IF you HAD to be 21 then it seemed to me that the signers wanted the road to Kentucky pretty badly. I am convinced that at least one of the signers and poossibly several of the petioners in column 1 were NOT 21. Gail

Listers, i'm still looking for my missing great grand father JACK MOORE. a son said his dad was from TX. as i search i sort of doubt it. bad blood started when JACK left the family about 1880-81. he returned about 20 yrs later. an argument started, he left, never heard of again. lost to history. my MOOREs were a secretive,non talking bunch. NOTE: a cuz & i have had DNA done, he a 25 marker,me a 12. my 12 has matched exactly FIX & MATTOCKS. never heard of ot found these names. anyone here have those names?. NOTE: E me off list. as it seems our greatgrand mother was NANCY ANN MAYES, b.1845 in RAY Co.MO. as a child the family moved back to CLAIBORNE Co.TN. Nancy's parents: STERLING & SALLIE CARR MAYES were b.there. Sallies mom was a McCUBBINS. this is our home county. along with GRAINGER *& KNOX Cos.TN. Trying to find any of this family: RICHARD MOORE m.ELIZABETH MAYS-MAYES. seems most kids moved to GIBSON Co.TN. i sort of think some where in these lines are my missing MOORE link. also below a line of MOOREs moved to DADE Co.MO. theres a JOHN MOORE. seems he may have married a Nancy MAYES. a Mr.SMOTHERS was in touch about this. and i was wondering if Mr.SMOTHERS is on here?. if so has any of your MOORES done DNA?. below are MOORE-GRANTHAM-MAYES & others. thank you Ray Moore. No parents listed for Elizabeth Mays. Parents of Richard Moore: James M. Moore b: 21 NOV 1795 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Death: 24 JUN 1845 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Married: 13 DEC 1817 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Rhoda Grantham b: 9 NOV 1796 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Children: Richard b: 1817 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee (married Elizabeth, listed above) Samuel b: 1817 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Robert b: 1818 William b: 1818 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee George Watt b: 1819 in Trenton, Gibson Cty, Tennessee Nancy: b: 1819 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee James B. b: 1825 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rhoda Grantham's parents: Richard Grantham Sr. b: 16 MAR 1754 in Dobbs Cty, North Carolina Death: 22 JUN 1846 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Married: 4 APR 1785 in Hawkins Cty, Tennessee Frances Amis b: 15 APR 1766 in Northampton Cty, North Carolina Death: 27 APR 1857 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Children: Penelope GRANTHAM b: 10 JUN 1786 in Tennessee Mary GRANTHAM b: 8 FEB 1788 in Hawkins Cty, Tennessee Ann GRANTHAM b: 29 SEP 1789 in Tennessee Amis GRANTHAM b: 1 SEP 1791 in Tennessee Tabitha GRANTHAM b: 27 MAY 1793 in Tennessee Rachel GRANTHAM b: 5 MAR 1795 in Tennessee Rhoda GRANTHAM b: 9 NOV 1796 in Grainger Cty, Tennessee Lincoln GRANTHAM b: 13 AUG 1798 John Thomas GRANTHAM b: 9 JAN 1800 in Tennessee James H GRANTHAM b: 8 OCT 1801 in Tennessee Alice Gale GRANTHAM b: 7 MAY 1803 in Tennessee Richard GRANTHAM , Jr b: 23 JAN 1805 in Hawkins Cty, Tennessee Willis GRANTHAM b: 17 NOV 1806 Richard Grantham Sr.'s parents.. names only listed, no dates: John Grantham and Ann (no maiden name listed) T--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Generation No. 1 1. STEPHEN1 MOORE was born April 24, 1812 in Tennessee, and died March 23, 1876 in Dade County, Missouri. He married ANICE NANCE, daughter of REUBEN NANCE and ROSANA ?. She was born 1817 in Grainger County, Tennessee, and died Abt. 1865 in Dade County, Missouri. Children of STEPHEN MOORE and ANICE NANCE are: i. BENJAMIN2 MOORE, b. September 04, 1835, Grainger County, Tennessee; d. April 09, 1836. 2. ii. JOHN MOORE, b. February 17, 1837, Grainger County, Tennessee. iii. REUEBN NELSON MOORE, b. April 13, 1839, Grainger County, Tennessee; m. SERENS E. CLOPTON; b. 1846. iv. ROSANNA J. MOORE, b. August 25, 1841, Hamilton County, Tennessee; m. JOHN DILL. v. WILLIAM J. MOORE, b. May 30, 1844. vi. AMANDA L. MOORE, b. January 24, 1847; m. DR. DAVID E. F. BIRCH. vii. MARTHA MOORE, b. October 18, 1849, Hamilton County, Tennessee; m. JAMES WILSON. viii. THOMAS M. MOORE, b. November 18, 1852; d. November 15, 1854, Dade County, Missouri. 3. ix. RACHEL ADELINE MOORE, b. April 02, 1855, Greenfield, Missouri; d. July 23, 1919, Dade County, Missouri. x. MALVINA T. MOORE, b. June 19, 1858; m. SAMUEL STEVENSON. xi. EFFANITAS MOORE, b. September 09, 1862; m. HARTLEY GOFORTH. DNA done. STEVE MOORE a 25 marker. at family tree.com D629W. at ysearch MOORE DNA PROJECT M36142 mine a 12 marker at familytree.com FYN8F . ysearch MOORE DNA M30219 Researching: MOORE, ,MOOR. MOHR. MAYES, MAYS, MAZE, MIZE, MAISE, MAIZE, CARR, COX, COURTNEY, MYERS, TOWNSLEY, POWERS, GRUBBS, GRUBB, POE, (SMITH 4 lines) RUSSELL, LEWIS, DUNN, WHITEAKER, WHITAKER, REECE, HUNDLEY/HUNLEY, MANIS, MOLES, NEWBY. PARKER, CHEATHAM,CHITTUM, BROWN, HAUN, OGLESBY, LONG, DUNN, SHIPLEY & VOWELL & ROSS, LIPPS, MOCK, SHIRLEY, PENDLEY, JORDON. my pages: http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm Friends: PECK,LAMBERT,MEADOWS -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin

MOST LIKELY THE PETITIONERS WOULD HAVE HAD TO OWN LAND. JAMES ----- Original Message ----- From: ELEANOR McCAIN<mailto:eleanormccain@comcast.net> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Legislative list Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be able to sign this petition? Thanks, Eleanor ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:tngraing-l-request@rootsweb.com>

John Duke married Susanna Easley 1803 in Grainger Co., Tn. I believe the Pleasant Duke on the petition is his brother. John and Susanna also had a son Pleasant Duke. The younger Pleasant is named in the settlement of the estate of Miller Easley, father of Susanna, 1846 in Grainger. Regarding Moses Collins- he is listed on the 1830 and 1840 census of Claiborne Co., Tn. A Moses Collins married Elizabeth Atkins 10 March 1850 in Grainger Co., Tn. I believe this Moses is listed on the 1860 census of Claiborne Co., Tn., 6th sub-div Tazewell- Moses Collins 58, Elizabeth 25, Louverna 3, Milam Shiplet 23, Jane 28, John 3, Mary A. 6/12 1850 census Claiborne Co., Tn #1021-1021 David Collins 60, b Va, Phebe 50, b Tn, Cassa 35, b Tn, William D. 3 b Tn. Sorry I can't be of more help. Grace

Can anyone tell me if the lists of names Gail posted for the 1806 legislative petition just consisted of property owners? I am certain they all had to be over 21, but did they also have to own land to be able to sign this petition? Thanks, Eleanor