Hi Grp Sandy and Jean, just to let you know, there are also two other kids in this family, somehow not listed below, #6 Martha "Effie" b: ca 1853/4.....md Andrew Loving #7 Susan (Susannah) ..b: ca 1855/6.....md 24 Sep 1871....William A. Roach # 3 Eliza J. b: ca 1846....md ____ Joice Sharon On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:05:07 EST JBrand1056@aol.com writes: > > Descendants of Susan Roach > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. SUSAN1 ROACH was born March 14, 1823 in TN, and died June 04, > 1885. She > married HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT April 18, 1843 in Grainger Co., > Tn., son > of JAMES MALLICOAT and RHODA WITCHER. He was born 1812 in TN, and > died 1859 > in Grainger Co., Tn.. > > More About SUSAN ROACH: > Fact 2: April 18, 1843, marriage has Susanna Roach > > Notes for HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT: > Rhoda (Roda) listed living with son in 10-8-1850 page 73B, family # > 1082 as > Hamilton's mother. > > More About HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT: > Census: October 08, 1850, Federal Census for Grainger Co., TN page > 73B, > Family # 1082. > > Children of SUSAN ROACH and HAMILTON MALLICOAT are: > i. AMANDA2 MALICOAT, b. 1844, TN. > ii. JOHN J. MALICOAT, b. 1845, Grainger Co., TN; m. MARY REBECCA > OWENS, > December 06, 1866, Grainger Co., TN. > > Notes for JOHN J. MALICOAT: > John and Mary moved to Greene Co., MO in 1873. per: William Owens > (WJOWENS@world.att.net) > > iii. ELIZA J. MALICOAT, b. 1846, TN. > iv. MARGARET ELIZABETH MALICOAT, b. 1847, TN; m. HNERY A. OWENS, > Abt. > 1866, Grainger Co., TN. > > Notes for MARGARET ELIZABETH MALICOAT: > Henry and Margaret moved to Greene Co., MO in 1873. > > v. RODA ANN MALICOAT, b. 1850, TN; m. SAMUEL A. JOYCE. > > More About RODA ANN MALICOAT: > Census: October 08, 1850, Federal Census lists age 7 months.. >

Sorry, Grp I thought that was going just to Jessie...have to watch that address thingy Sharon

Jessie, yes Al and I are in contact alot now, I had to straighten him out on alot of stuff, and he has corrected alot, we are right now working on Thompson's, have found alot of new info on this family, and are trying to prove all the way back....Al is a good guy ,I like them all, but when people try to straighten out too many of these lines at once they get more mixed up...thats why I only worked on proveing my husbands lines to begin with, just to untangle them, those Tennesse hill billys<VBG> are a caustion, Grainger Co. is so inter-woven, our line especially.. but fun, very interesting people I keep telling my husband I'm going to stop on the Roachs by such and such a time, and get caught up on my own dead end, Yea Right !! then someone writes me abt Roach's/ Owens /Galyon or one of them, and I think I'll never be done with them..... > <<<< Do you have John Green Roach as the son of James Roach and Ann > Thompson ?>>>> Most defineatly.....that much is proven and there was a Henry Roach in Or Co. NC in 1770 (reference,) and James Roach did have Ashcroft/Ashcraft neibors....so that is possible, but not positive beyound that its pretty fuzzy...lots of people assumeing things with out proof Sharon. > > > Jessie > > -----Original Message----- > From: froach598@juno.com <froach598@juno.com> > To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] ROACH - Grainger Co. > > > >Hi Jessie > > > >Yes, It all looks familar.......just one spelling error, wasn't > Alfred > >who md Ellenor a Culliver too? > > > >Sharon > > > > > >On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:09:36 -0800 "Jessie Coffey" > ><JRCoffey@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >> Here is some ROACH info that I have recieved. > >> Any one look familar ? Any Corrections ? > >> I descend from William Henry Roach, through his son Samuel P.M. > >> Roach (1825/6 -1892; died and buried in Jackson Co., KY) > >> > >> Jessie > >> > >> Descendants of Absalom Roach > >> > >> 1 Absalom Roach 1770 - 1839 b: 1770 in Orange County, N.C. d: > >> 1839 in Grainger Co., Tenn. > >> .. +Mary Middleton Abt. 1774 - b: Abt. 1774 in NC m: December > 16, > >> 1794 in Orange Co., NC > >> .. 2 Ann Roach Abt. 1795 - Aft. 1850 b: Abt. 1795 in Orange > >> County, NC d: Aft. 1850 in Grainger Co., TN > >> .. 2 James Roach Abt. 1797 - Aft. 1870 b: Abt. 1797 in Orange > >> County, NC d: Aft. 1870 in Knox Co., TN > >> ...... +Catherine (unknown) m: Abt. 1820 in Grainger Co., TN > >> .. 2 John Roach 1799 - 1872 b: 1799 in NC d: 1872 in Grainger > >> County, TN > >> ...... +Sarah Sally Romans Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in VA m: > >> December 22, 1820 > >> .. 2 William Henry Roach Abt. 1801 - Abt. 1857 b: Abt. 1801 in > TN > >> d: Abt. 1857 in died Arkansas, on journey to Missouri > >> ...... +Margaret Jane Watson ( Pirot ?) Abt. 1793 - 1889 b: Abt. > >> 1793 m: May 14, 1823 in Grainger County, TN d: December 18, 1889 > in > >> Missouri > >> .. 2 Hannah Roach Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in Grainger County, > TN > >> > >> .. 2 Ellenor Roach Abt. 1809 - b: Abt. 1809 in Grainger County, > TN > >> d: in Grainger Co., TN > >> ...... +Alfred Culliner m: June 15, 1853 in Grainger Co., TN > >> .. 2 Alfred Roach Abt. 1811 - b: Abt. 1811 in Grainger County, > TN > >> > >> ...... +Jane McDaniel Abt. 1814 - b: Abt. 1814 m: August 28, > 1833 > >> in Grainger County, TN > >> .. *2nd Wife of Alfred Roach: > >> ...... +Mary Ann (Culliver) Bateman Abt. 1818 - b: Abt. 1818 in > NC > >> m: December 15, 1843 in Grainger County, TN > >> .. 2 Absalom Roach Abt. 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Grainger County, > TN > >> > >> ...... +Lavicey Vicey Janeway Abt. 1815 - b: Abt. 1815 in TN m: > >> December 10, 1834 in Grainger County, TN > >> > >> > > >

Hi Mickey, Don't forget about the marriage record of James and Martha Davis. I hope you got my money order. If possible I would like to have the marriage bond. I don't know Martha's maiden name. Thanks, Mary

Sharon, You are probably correct. The information I have was sent to me from someone else. Have you ever been in contact with Al Roach from Oklahoma ? Most of my info came from him. Do you have John Green Roach as the son of James Roach and Ann Thompson ? Jessie -----Original Message----- From: froach598@juno.com <froach598@juno.com> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 01, 1999 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] ROACH - Grainger Co. >Hi Jessie > >Yes, It all looks familar.......just one spelling error, wasn't Alfred >who md Ellenor a Culliver too? > >Sharon > > >On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:09:36 -0800 "Jessie Coffey" ><JRCoffey@worldnet.att.net> writes: >> Here is some ROACH info that I have recieved. >> Any one look familar ? Any Corrections ? >> I descend from William Henry Roach, through his son Samuel P.M. >> Roach (1825/6 -1892; died and buried in Jackson Co., KY) >> >> Jessie >> >> Descendants of Absalom Roach >> >> 1 Absalom Roach 1770 - 1839 b: 1770 in Orange County, N.C. d: >> 1839 in Grainger Co., Tenn. >> .. +Mary Middleton Abt. 1774 - b: Abt. 1774 in NC m: December 16, >> 1794 in Orange Co., NC >> .. 2 Ann Roach Abt. 1795 - Aft. 1850 b: Abt. 1795 in Orange >> County, NC d: Aft. 1850 in Grainger Co., TN >> .. 2 James Roach Abt. 1797 - Aft. 1870 b: Abt. 1797 in Orange >> County, NC d: Aft. 1870 in Knox Co., TN >> ...... +Catherine (unknown) m: Abt. 1820 in Grainger Co., TN >> .. 2 John Roach 1799 - 1872 b: 1799 in NC d: 1872 in Grainger >> County, TN >> ...... +Sarah Sally Romans Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in VA m: >> December 22, 1820 >> .. 2 William Henry Roach Abt. 1801 - Abt. 1857 b: Abt. 1801 in TN >> d: Abt. 1857 in died Arkansas, on journey to Missouri >> ...... +Margaret Jane Watson ( Pirot ?) Abt. 1793 - 1889 b: Abt. >> 1793 m: May 14, 1823 in Grainger County, TN d: December 18, 1889 in >> Missouri >> .. 2 Hannah Roach Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in Grainger County, TN >> >> .. 2 Ellenor Roach Abt. 1809 - b: Abt. 1809 in Grainger County, TN >> d: in Grainger Co., TN >> ...... +Alfred Culliner m: June 15, 1853 in Grainger Co., TN >> .. 2 Alfred Roach Abt. 1811 - b: Abt. 1811 in Grainger County, TN >> >> ...... +Jane McDaniel Abt. 1814 - b: Abt. 1814 m: August 28, 1833 >> in Grainger County, TN >> .. *2nd Wife of Alfred Roach: >> ...... +Mary Ann (Culliver) Bateman Abt. 1818 - b: Abt. 1818 in NC >> m: December 15, 1843 in Grainger County, TN >> .. 2 Absalom Roach Abt. 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Grainger County, TN >> >> ...... +Lavicey Vicey Janeway Abt. 1815 - b: Abt. 1815 in TN m: >> December 10, 1834 in Grainger County, TN >> >> >

Mickey and all, I am in Overton Co, TN and a group from our Overton Co Historical Society have begged and finally received a room in the Courthouse Annex to archive our old records which were also in a deplorable condition. So far, we have worked hundreds of VOLUNTEER hours sorting, cleaning and filing our records which date into the early 1800's. When we first started we had contacted the LDS people and they sent us a couple of missionaries who worked with us for about a year helping us get organized and giving us pointers about how to go about our work, now we are on our own. We have a elected a County Archivist who organizes our schedule and we work on Monday nights for about 3 hours and anytime thru the week that we can. It is dirty and tedious work but just think of the "treasures" that you find and we also have fun working together. We also contacted the TN State Library and Achives who sent some of their staff for an all-day workshop and this helped us also. As someone who has "been there" and is still there, my hat goes off to Mickey and the others and I wish you luck in you endeavor. After we elected our Archivist and the County Commissioners approved of this (they are not really behind us, just go along to keep us happy!) we have accepted donations from individuals to use for supplies, copies, etc. which is handled by our Society treasurer and have really been blessed with financial help from many states. Good luck, Paula Swallows Stover, President Overton Co Historical and Genealogical Society Paula in Overton Co, Tn Researching: SWALLOWS,NEAL,GORE,GIBBONS,HYDER,GREEN,HARDY,ADAMS,COPELAND,TOWNSEND, DODSON,BILBREY,STOVER,WINNINGHAM,DENNIS,PRYOR,MOORE, PHILLIPS, CRAWFORD,FINLEY,REID,JUDD,CONNER,JACKSON,KINDER,JOHNSON,SIMCOE(SIMCOCK).

Does anyone know the NICHOLS family whose daughter, Polly Ann (b ca 1766/NC or TN), married Thomas Kemble EDGEMOND (b 1768/NC, son of William and Elizabeth KEMBLE EDGEMOND) on 10-10-1797/Grainger Co. TN? I am looking for a possible NICHOLS Cherokee blood line in E TN. Who were Polly Ann NICHOL'S parents?? Thanks for helping, April aerobbins@earthlink.net

Mickey, Would you like some help with going through the records on a not very regular basis? My husband's family is from Rutledge (most still live there) and we are there on a pretty regular basis. In fact, we'll be there this weekend. Whenever I am there I would love to help if you'll tell me how. It has to be on the weekends because I have a kindergartner and a preschooler so we are in Chattanooga during the week. My husband's mom knows everyone at the Courthouse really well so I'm sure I can get a key, etc., to the old school. Let me know! Mary Carol Roach

Here's part 2: ********10/29/99 email, part 2, begins here******** CENSUS RECORDS: 1850 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., p. 70, sheet 36, 10 Sept. 1850, James Cameron, age 30, male, born Tenn., Catherine, 32, f, Tenn., Wm., 6, m, Tenn., Nelson, 4, m, Tenn., James T., 1, m, Tenn. 1850 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 327-45, James Dodson, age 20, male, born Tenn., Rachel M., 20, f, Tenn., John R., 10/12, m, Tenn. 1860 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 86-446, James Cameron, age 40, Catherine, 42, Wm., 16, Nelson, 14, James S., 13, Harden, 11, John, 7. 1860 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., 51-428, James Dodson, age 36, male, $1500 real property, $842 personal property, born Tenn., Rachael M., 30, f, Tenn., Tempy G., 3, f, Tenn., Wm. James, 6/12, m, Tenn. 1870 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., p. 4, sheet 40, Rutledge, 11 August 1870, lines 6-14, dwelling 28, family 28, James Cameron, 50, male, white, farmer, $2700 real estate, 4100 personal property, born Tenn., eligible to vote, Rachel, 40, f, w, housekeeping, Tenn., Hardin, 19, m, w, Tenn., John, 17, m, w, Tenn., Columbus T. Dodson, 14, f, w, Tenn., William Dodson, 11, m, w, Tenn., cannot write Tennessee Cameron, 10, f, w, Tenn., David Dodson, 7, m, w, Tenn., Nancy Dodson, 4, f, w, Tenn. 1880 Census, Grainger Co., Tenn., E. D. 96, page 2, lines 19-23, 2 June James Cameron, white, male, age 60, born Tenn., father b. Va., mother b. N.C. R. M., w, f, 40, wife, Tenn., Va., Va., W. J. Dodson, w, m, 20, stepson, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., F. J. Dodson, w, m, 17, stepson, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., Norah Dodson, w, f, 15, stepdaughter, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. WILLS AND PROBATE RECORDS: Final Administration of the Estate of James Cameron, 31 January 1889, accounts noted as of 20 March 1886. (Grainger County, Probate Records) Inventory of the Estate of Rachel Cameron by R. H. Grove, Administrator, 1 September 1890. (Grainger County, Probate Records) ******** I can possibly check a little further on the Grove family. I remember looking up some census records on them some time ago to confirm the findings above. Census records are well known for misspelled names and wrong ages. As indicated below, Reuben, Sr., and Nancy were probably living with George in the 1850 census. My spelling of Grove comes from George's signature in my great, great grandfather's Southern Claims Commission file and R. H. Grove's signature on Rachel (Grove) Dodson Cameron's probate records. This spelling also agrees with the marriage records. If I remember correctly, R. H. is Reuben, Jr., another son of Reuben and Nancy (Mayes) Grove. This is probably the Reuben who married Jane Mayes in 1843. And the 1806 marriage is his parents as confirmed below. Although Goodspeed's biographies are not always accurate either, it states that George's parents were Reuben Grove, born 19 Mar 1777, Loudon Co., VA, died 16 Sep 1866, at George's home, Daisydell, Grainger Co., Tenn., and Nancy Mayes, born 13 Oct 1788, Grainger Co., Tenn., and died [no day] Apr 1852, also at George's home in Daisydell. George was postmaster there as well as clerk and master of chancery court for Grainger Co., 1877-and still serving in 1887. The father in 1801 came with his parents to Grainger County, and after marrying in 1806 and living at various places, settled at our subject's home in December, 1810, as a farmer. I hope that this helps, Ross Cameron native Missourian ********10/29/99 email, part 2, ends here******** Ross Cameron >>> "Bruce Roorda" <b-roorda@msc.net> 10/29/99 11:04AM >>> Thanks so much Gail. I did have most of the information except Reuben and Jane's ages. Now I remember the discrepency was what I found puzzling although I have found wives who were that much older than their husbands. At the time I could not figure out whether Jane was Reuben's wife or his mother. However, since then I have run across the marriage between Reuben and Jane.... Well this does provide food for thought. As I have said before I am not trying to do Mayeses in America or even in Grainger County (Oh dear!!) Just my line (or lines <grin>). However, eventually you find that in order to solve the "puzzle" you just need to know more about everyone!! One researcher calls part of his web page the Mayes maze <smile> Anyway some of us are discussing some conflicting information...so thanks for all your help!! I would still like to hear from someone who is researching the Reuben Groves (have also seen this as Graves)/Nancy Mayes branch of the family! Gail in Missouri > Reuben Groves age 36 male Farmer Property Value 6,300 Born Tennessee > Jane Groves age 54 female Born Tennessee > Elizabeth Mayse age 12 female Born Tennessee > > Note - Jane age 54. The 54 is sloppy, could be a 34 or 24. > > Have two marriages that are potentials: > > Reubin Grove to Nancy Mayes 19 February 1806 > Reubin Grove Jr. to Jane Mayes 6 December 1843 > > Didn't see Reuben in the 1860 census. > > Gail in Moreno Valley, Ca. > > ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Gail in Missouri, When I got your direct email, I checked and found that the message I sent to the list last Friday was never delivered. Apparently it was too long, but the listserver never informs the sender that it is refusing to forward the message and I just forgot to "watch" for it to be delivered. So I will break it into two parts and hope that they get through this time. ********10/29/99 email, part 1, begins here******** l in Missouri You may be speaking of me, though I am not a descendant nor am I researching this family extensively. However my widower great, great grandfather, James Cameron, of Grainger County, Tennessee, married as his second wife, widow Mrs. Rachel (Grove) Dodson, whom my records show was the daughter of Reuben and Nancy (Mayes) Grove, rather than Groves or Graves. I will put a portion of the record below and then comments: ******** 2. af. James Cameron born 23 Dec 1819, Grainger Co., Tenn. died c. 1886, Grainger Co., Tenn. mar., 1st, 10 Sep. 1842, Grainger Co., Tenn. 2. af-1. Katherine Clark born 8 Feb. 1818, Tennessee died c. 1860-1868, Grainger Co., Tenn. children: 3. afa. William M. Cameron, born 1 Jul 1843, Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. afb. Nelson Cameron, born 18 Jul 1845, Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. afc. James Taylor Cameron, born 25 Jun 1848. Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. afd. Hardin Cameron, born 20 Jan 1851, Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. afe. John A. Cameron, born 21 Oct 1853, Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. aff. Mary C. Cameron, born 7 Jul 1856, Grainger Co., Tenn. 3. afg. Tennessee Cameron, born 8 Aug 1860, Grainger Co., Tenn. mar., 2nd, 3 Nov. 1868, Grainger Co., Tenn. 2. af-2. Rachel M. (Grove) Dodson 2. af-2-f. daughter of Reuben Grove 2. af-2-m. and Nancy Mayes born c. 1840, Tenn. mar., 1st, 25 Apr 1848, Grainger Co., Tenn. 2. af-2-s1. James M. Dodson children: 2. af-2-s1a. John R. Dodson, born ca. 1849, Tenn. 2. af-2-s1b. Columbus T./Tempy G. Dodson, born ca. 1857, Tenn. 2. af-2-s1c. William James Dodson, born 17 Dec. 1859, Tenn. 2. af-2-s1d. David/F. J. Dodson, born ca. 1863, Tenn. 2. af-2-s1e. Nancy/Norah Dodson, born ca. 1865, Tenn. children: none Notes: FAMILY BIBLE RECORDS: James Cameron, born, 23 December 1819 Katherine Cameron, born 8 February 1818 William M. Cameron, born 1 July 1843 Nelson Cameron, born 18 July 1845 James T. Cameron, born 25 June 1848 Hardin Cameron, born 20 January 1851 John A. Cameron, born 21 October 1853 Mary C. Cameron, born 7 July 1856, died 29 October 1857 Tennessee Cameron, born 8 August 1860 (Bible record in the possession of Hugh Venoy Cameron, 1968) MARRIAGE RECORDS: Marriage License Bond for James Cameron to Katherine Clark, bonded and issued on 10 September 1842, James Cameron and Arthur L. C. Garrett, Security. This couple was maried by me within a few days of the isuence of those license, James Lacy, Minister of the Gospel. (Grainger County, Marriage Bonds) Marriage License for James Cameron to Rachael Dotson, issued 3 November 1868. I solemnized the rites of matrimony between the above named parties on the 3d day of Nov 1868, J. H. Carmichael, M. G. [Minister of the Gospel]. (Grainger County, Marriage Book, p. 99) Marriage License Bond for James M. Dodson to Rachel M. Grove, 25 April 1848. (Grainger County, Marriage Bonds) James Cameron, Security, for marriage of James A. Clark to Elizabeth Smith, bonded 19 September 1846, married, 24 September 1846, by Clisbe Austin, LDMEC. (Grainger County, Marriage Bonds) MISCELLANEOUS FEDERAL RECORDS: George H. Grove identifies himself as a brother-in-law of James Cameron in his affidavit for the Southern Claims Commission. (Claim Nos. , James Cameron, Records of the Southern Claims Commission, Record Group 217, National Archives, Washington, DC) PUBLISHED LOCAL HISTORIES: George H. Grove, planter, and clerk and master of chancery court, was born 19 March 1832, the son of Reuben and Nancy (Mayes) Grove (Biographical Sketch of George H. Grove, Goodspeed's History of East Tennessee, p. 1154.) ********10/29/99 email, part 1, ends here******** Look for comments on the above at the end of part 2 coming soon. Ross Cameron >>> "Bruce Roorda" <b-roorda@msc.net> 10/29/99 11:04AM >>> Thanks so much Gail. I did have most of the information except Reuben and Jane's ages. Now I remember the discrepency was what I found puzzling although I have found wives who were that much older than their husbands. At the time I could not figure out whether Jane was Reuben's wife or his mother. However, since then I have run across the marriage between Reuben and Jane.... Well this does provide food for thought. As I have said before I am not trying to do Mayeses in America or even in Grainger County (Oh dear!!) Just my line (or lines <grin>). However, eventually you find that in order to solve the "puzzle" you just need to know more about everyone!! One researcher calls part of his web page the Mayes maze <smile> Anyway some of us are discussing some conflicting information...so thanks for all your help!! I would still like to hear from someone who is researching the Reuben Groves (have also seen this as Graves)/Nancy Mayes branch of the family! Gail in Missouri > Reuben Groves age 36 male Farmer Property Value 6,300 Born Tennessee > Jane Groves age 54 female Born Tennessee > Elizabeth Mayse age 12 female Born Tennessee > > Note - Jane age 54. The 54 is sloppy, could be a 34 or 24. > > Have two marriages that are potentials: > > Reubin Grove to Nancy Mayes 19 February 1806 > Reubin Grove Jr. to Jane Mayes 6 December 1843 > > Didn't see Reuben in the 1860 census. > > Gail in Moreno Valley, Ca. > > ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Trying to straighten out my line. I have a John Nash born 1730 marries Mary Baskett in 1761 in Goochland County, Virginia they lived in Grainger County. Then I have a John Nash marries Ann Adkins (Atkins) 1755 in London England. Does anyone have Nash/Adkins or Nash/Baskett connections? Cindy

Bless you all

Mickey & All, I'm not sure what you offered at the Grainger Court House, but I have a William Edgemand (various spellings) who was in Grainger/Hawkins from 1778 until his death in 1816. He is supposed to be buried there. Are you familiar with any possible paper work on someone in that time frame? Thanks for helping me. Regards, Leonard IMsMickey@aol.com wrote: > > I have received a couple of E-mails regarding my trips to the Grainger Co. > Courthouse. Yes I am still going, I'm trying to go at least 1 day a week. > Last week was a busy week at my children's school so I didn't get to > Rutledge. I have a limited supply of Book #1 (1796-1809) and also a limited > supply of Book #2 (1810-1819). If you would like a copy send a $15.00 money > order to the address below, and please be sure to let me know if you want > book #1 or book #2. Book #3 should be ready by the end of this week, it > covers the years 1820-1829. You can go ahead and order book #3 also at the > address below if you wish. Thank you, IMsMickey@aol.com > > Mickey Morris > P.O. Box 34 > Powell, TN 37849

Hello, Thank you for the information. I want all 3 books and my check will be in the mail today. I don't expect you to mail them until you receive my check. I have seen the records in that message and it was so sad. I also copied some old records on my line I found. Thank you for all your hard work. Jean Brand 2533 W. McKinley Sp. 226 Fresno, CA 93728 559-233-2922

Hi, I guess I should let everyone know what is going on with the records in Grainger Co. Most if not all know the records are a mess. Several years ago the Courthouse basement flooded, this is where a lot of the records had been stored. When the basement was cleaned they moved a lot of records to the old Rutledge High School. It has been told that some of the soaked papers were thrown away but I don't have first hand knowledge of this. But I have been to the old school and the records are a mess. They are stored in the auditorium. There are boxes of records sitting on the floor and in chairs. I along with a couple of friends worked one day this summer going through boxes trying to retrieve marriage records. We did find a lot of them and took them back to the courthouse. We are not certain that we found them all. I along with another friend have been going through the boxes of marriage license and bonds and making an index of these and at the same time putting them in order. They are boxed in order of a 10 year period. We have found one marriage license that was issued in Hancock Co. and one that was issued in Jefferson Co. How these came to Grainger Co. is a mystery. We made copies of these and mailed it to the county where the license was issued to let them know where the original is filed. As we sort through these files we have made an index and I typed them and have printed copies and had them bound. These are in a 10 year period starting with the oldest files. The first book contains the license and/or bonds for 1796-1809. There are over 500 couples listed. Several people had contacted me about contributing money toward our work in Grainger Co. I don't feel comfortable just taking their money so I thought the books would at least give them something for their money. The books are bound with the comb type binding with a heavy paper front and back cover. They are typed in alphabetical order using the grooms last name. It lists the grooms name, bride's name and the date the license and/or bond was issued. Anyone that orders the book and would like a copy of something in the book we do that for a small charge. We also will do other research but you will need to contact me privately about the charge for that. The books are $15.00 each and this covers postage of mailing the book back to you 1st class mail. If you would like to order a copy of any of the books just mail a money order for $15.00 to: Mickey Morris P.O. Box 34 Powell, TN 37849 Book #1 (1796-1809) Book #2 (1810-1819) Book #3 (1820-1829) Be sure to make a note of which book(s) you are ordering. Be sure to e-mail me if you have any questions. Also if you have any questions about our work you may contact Barbara Jackson (county court clerk of Grainger Co.) at the courthouse in Grainger Co. Thanks! Mickey

Descendants of Susan Roach Generation No. 1 1. SUSAN1 ROACH was born March 14, 1823 in TN, and died June 04, Notes for HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT: <<< Rhoda (Roda) listed living with son in 10-8-1850 page 73B, family # 1082 as Hamilton's mother.>>> one problem with this is, this Roda was only 10... she was (I believe) the daughter of Elizabeth "Eliza Ann"(Roach) dec'd and Sterling Mallicoat ..child of a sister of Susan's and I 'm told a brother of Hamilton's

Sandy, Do you have the correect information on this line? I believe that was something you sent me. Jean

Here is some ROACH info that I have recieved. Any one look familar ? Any Corrections ? I descend from William Henry Roach, through his son Samuel P.M. Roach (1825/6 -1892; died and buried in Jackson Co., KY) Jessie Descendants of Absalom Roach 1 Absalom Roach 1770 - 1839 b: 1770 in Orange County, N.C. d: 1839 in Grainger Co., Tenn. .. +Mary Middleton Abt. 1774 - b: Abt. 1774 in NC m: December 16, 1794 in Orange Co., NC .. 2 Ann Roach Abt. 1795 - Aft. 1850 b: Abt. 1795 in Orange County, NC d: Aft. 1850 in Grainger Co., TN .. 2 James Roach Abt. 1797 - Aft. 1870 b: Abt. 1797 in Orange County, NC d: Aft. 1870 in Knox Co., TN ...... +Catherine (unknown) m: Abt. 1820 in Grainger Co., TN .. 2 John Roach 1799 - 1872 b: 1799 in NC d: 1872 in Grainger County, TN ...... +Sarah Sally Romans Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in VA m: December 22, 1820 .. 2 William Henry Roach Abt. 1801 - Abt. 1857 b: Abt. 1801 in TN d: Abt. 1857 in died Arkansas, on journey to Missouri ...... +Margaret Jane Watson ( Pirot ?) Abt. 1793 - 1889 b: Abt. 1793 m: May 14, 1823 in Grainger County, TN d: December 18, 1889 in Missouri .. 2 Hannah Roach Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in Grainger County, TN .. 2 Ellenor Roach Abt. 1809 - b: Abt. 1809 in Grainger County, TN d: in Grainger Co., TN ...... +Alfred Culliner m: June 15, 1853 in Grainger Co., TN .. 2 Alfred Roach Abt. 1811 - b: Abt. 1811 in Grainger County, TN ...... +Jane McDaniel Abt. 1814 - b: Abt. 1814 m: August 28, 1833 in Grainger County, TN .. *2nd Wife of Alfred Roach: ...... +Mary Ann (Culliver) Bateman Abt. 1818 - b: Abt. 1818 in NC m: December 15, 1843 in Grainger County, TN .. 2 Absalom Roach Abt. 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Grainger County, TN ...... +Lavicey Vicey Janeway Abt. 1815 - b: Abt. 1815 in TN m: December 10, 1834 in Grainger County, TN

Hi Jessie Yes, It all looks familar.......just one spelling error, wasn't Alfred who md Ellenor a Culliver too? Sharon On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 22:09:36 -0800 "Jessie Coffey" <JRCoffey@worldnet.att.net> writes: > Here is some ROACH info that I have recieved. > Any one look familar ? Any Corrections ? > I descend from William Henry Roach, through his son Samuel P.M. > Roach (1825/6 -1892; died and buried in Jackson Co., KY) > > Jessie > > Descendants of Absalom Roach > > 1 Absalom Roach 1770 - 1839 b: 1770 in Orange County, N.C. d: > 1839 in Grainger Co., Tenn. > .. +Mary Middleton Abt. 1774 - b: Abt. 1774 in NC m: December 16, > 1794 in Orange Co., NC > .. 2 Ann Roach Abt. 1795 - Aft. 1850 b: Abt. 1795 in Orange > County, NC d: Aft. 1850 in Grainger Co., TN > .. 2 James Roach Abt. 1797 - Aft. 1870 b: Abt. 1797 in Orange > County, NC d: Aft. 1870 in Knox Co., TN > ...... +Catherine (unknown) m: Abt. 1820 in Grainger Co., TN > .. 2 John Roach 1799 - 1872 b: 1799 in NC d: 1872 in Grainger > County, TN > ...... +Sarah Sally Romans Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in VA m: > December 22, 1820 > .. 2 William Henry Roach Abt. 1801 - Abt. 1857 b: Abt. 1801 in TN > d: Abt. 1857 in died Arkansas, on journey to Missouri > ...... +Margaret Jane Watson ( Pirot ?) Abt. 1793 - 1889 b: Abt. > 1793 m: May 14, 1823 in Grainger County, TN d: December 18, 1889 in > Missouri > .. 2 Hannah Roach Abt. 1805 - b: Abt. 1805 in Grainger County, TN > > .. 2 Ellenor Roach Abt. 1809 - b: Abt. 1809 in Grainger County, TN > d: in Grainger Co., TN > ...... +Alfred Culliner m: June 15, 1853 in Grainger Co., TN > .. 2 Alfred Roach Abt. 1811 - b: Abt. 1811 in Grainger County, TN > > ...... +Jane McDaniel Abt. 1814 - b: Abt. 1814 m: August 28, 1833 > in Grainger County, TN > .. *2nd Wife of Alfred Roach: > ...... +Mary Ann (Culliver) Bateman Abt. 1818 - b: Abt. 1818 in NC > m: December 15, 1843 in Grainger County, TN > .. 2 Absalom Roach Abt. 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Grainger County, TN > > ...... +Lavicey Vicey Janeway Abt. 1815 - b: Abt. 1815 in TN m: > December 10, 1834 in Grainger County, TN > >

Susan Roach is the daughter of John Green Roach and Margaret Elizabeth "Peggy" McDaniel, after Hamilton Mallicoat died pre 1860 , Susan md C.C. Nance in 1866...he was alot older than she and they had no children.....she however is buried as Susan Mallicoat...which I think is odd, does anyone know why?, I have seen this happen before....maybe just the children's preference? Thanks, Sharon On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:05:07 EST JBrand1056@aol.com writes: > > Descendants of Susan Roach > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. SUSAN1 ROACH was born March 14, 1823 in TN, and died June 04, > 1885. She > married HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT April 18, 1843 in Grainger Co., > Tn., son > of JAMES MALLICOAT and RHODA WITCHER. He was born 1812 in TN, and > died 1859 > in Grainger Co., Tn.. > > More About SUSAN ROACH: > Fact 2: April 18, 1843, marriage has Susanna Roach > > Notes for HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT: > Rhoda (Roda) listed living with son in 10-8-1850 page 73B, family # > 1082 as > Hamilton's mother. > > More About HAMILTON STERLING MALLICOAT: > Census: October 08, 1850, Federal Census for Grainger Co., TN page > 73B, > Family # 1082. > > Children of SUSAN ROACH and HAMILTON MALLICOAT are: > i. AMANDA2 MALICOAT, b. 1844, TN. > ii. JOHN J. MALICOAT, b. 1845, Grainger Co., TN; m. MARY REBECCA > OWENS, > December 06, 1866, Grainger Co., TN. > > Notes for JOHN J. MALICOAT: > John and Mary moved to Greene Co., MO in 1873. per: William Owens > (WJOWENS@world.att.net) > > iii. ELIZA J. MALICOAT, b. 1846, TN. > iv. MARGARET ELIZABETH MALICOAT, b. 1847, TN; m. HNERY A. OWENS, > Abt. > 1866, Grainger Co., TN. > > Notes for MARGARET ELIZABETH MALICOAT: > Henry and Margaret moved to Greene Co., MO in 1873. > > v. RODA ANN MALICOAT, b. 1850, TN; m. SAMUEL A. JOYCE. > > More About RODA ANN MALICOAT: > Census: October 08, 1850, Federal Census lists age 7 months.. >