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    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Give address where to send donation. Jean

    11/10/1999 03:20:50
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Kay, The file cabinets would be wonderful. Check on how much it would cost to send them to me. We'll see what we can do about getting you the funds to send them. There have been alot of people want to contribute money and I have accepted none but I will accept money for this. Thanks a bunch. Mickey

    11/10/1999 03:05:19
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Yep she did it
    2. Sandy, On your e-mail listing your family, I recognized alot of the surnames. There were alot of Malicoats, Daniel, Leffew and Majors in Grainger Co. While transcribing the marriage records I have seen theses names over and over. Yesterday while sorting through boxes I do remember a will for a Malicoat. I'll let everyone know when we have an index for the wills. Thanks! Mickey

    11/10/1999 02:38:00
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Dr James Law Warren-1801
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. Dr James Law Warren-b. 1801, a son of Robert Warren and Mary Law. He married 1825 in Grainger Co., Tn to Jane Taylor-b. 1802 in Grainger Co., Tn, a dau of Daniel Taylor and Jane Rowland. Jane Taylor grew up in Grainger Co., Tn. Does anyone have information on this family? Mary

    11/10/1999 01:10:08
    1. [TNGRAING-L] William Harris 1784
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. William Harris-b. 1874...married 1810 in Grainger Co., Tn. to Mourning Taylor-b. 1791 in Va. Although she was born in Va, she grew up in Grainger Co.TN...William Harris was a son of Peter Harris. Mourning's Taylor's sister, Keziah Taylor married William Harris' brother, James Harris. Does anyone know anything about this family? Mary

    11/10/1999 12:58:58
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Yep she did it
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. I was looking at my book "Taylors and Tates of the South" and I found a Barbara Leffew who married Robert Turley in 1872. Robert Turley was born 1824 in Grainger Co., TN. his 1st wife was Mary Mayes-b 1826 and she and Robert Turley were married in 1842 in Grainger Co. Barbara (Leffew) Turley moved to Dallas, Tx after the death of Robert Turley in 1910. Mary Mayes was a daughter of James Mayes and Jane Howell. Mary

    11/10/1999 12:41:51
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] School house records
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. That was very interesting, I have the Holliday name in my line, but I don't know very much about it. I will see what else I can find on this. A gr gr uncle was named William Holliday Lee. The families of Lee ,Davis, McDaniel, Turley, Whitesides, Taylor lived and some were born in Grainger Co. Other related families were Stubblefield, McAnally and etc. Thanks for this information. Mary

    11/10/1999 12:23:26
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Yep she did it
    2. Sandy
    3. I agree with my 6th cuzz (per the Family Tree Maker 7). We will all be glad to make donations to save our heritage for us and those that follow. It is bad enough that some of it was lost in the fire in ?was it 1890?? My Mallicoats were all over there (and all the different spellings) they had a lot of land in that area. William Crawley Malllicoat had 10,000 acres on and around Clinch mountain. He married Margaret Dotson and their son John Daniel married a Mariah 'Necy '"on her tombstone"' Majors (her parents Thomas Majors and mother Phebe/Pheobe Leffew (Farmer first husband) Majors.... It is passed down through this one family (John Daniel and Mariah Majors Mallicoat) that Mariah had Cherokee blood in her line..... Also in studying this family, along with Jean and many others we know that the Mallicoats had it from another line as some in OK put in for their Indian line. Jean knows as some/many were in her line of the Mallicoats (or one of its many spellings). Back to the original statement. I would be proud to help with donations or what ever we can do to help, "hey we can also write to whoever Mickey thinks we should.... in this way we can show the powers that be that there are many of us willing to help if not in person then by donations. We will all stick together and get this started and then carry on with the regular things we want in this list. Hang in there everyone we will get it done and continue looking for information for ALL OF US. Sandy in Tucson ----- Original Message ----- From: <JBrand1056@aol.com> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 8:00 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Yep she did it > What a way to go Mickey. Get em. Proud of you. If you need a donation to help > pay for gas, boxes, paper, etc, just let me know > > Jean > >

    11/09/1999 09:33:09
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] School house records
    2. Governor Bush may be Governor of Texas, but some of his roots lay in East Tn. ( Blount County) Children of Wm. G. Wear James Hutchenson Wear II David Walker Wear Louisa A. Wear Mildred A. Wear James H. married Nancy Eliza Holliday Their daughter: Lucretia Wear married George Herbert Walker Their daughter: Dorothy Walker married Prescott Sheldon Bush Their son was: PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES Lucretia was the great granddaughter of Jonathan Weir. The Knoxville News-Sentinel dated Feb. 2, 1990 had an article titled: WELCOME, PRESIDENT BUSH, Presidential ancestors traced to Blount County. No, Governor Bush isn't Governor of Tennessee, but he does have ties there, and he might even have ties to Grainger Co. Who knows ? There could even be papers in that school right now that can be traced to his ancestors. Jane Weir ( of this same family line ) married my GGGGrandfather Rev. John TATE and I do know that my TATE line was in Grainger Co. in the early to mid 1800's. It may be worth a try to contact Governor Bush and explain this. At this point I say, like we say in our researching genealogy records, leave no stone unturned... Rebecca Tate1899Shells2@webtv.net Please visit my web site: http://community.webtv.net/AmericafayeII/Reflections0

    11/09/1999 09:27:48
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. Thanks, Mickey!! Mary

    11/09/1999 08:28:47
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Kay Davis
    3. What a nice e-mail to read. And what hard work ahead. I have two three draw metal filing cabinets that are in great shape that I was thinking of selling in a garage sale - who cares what the cost would be - I could send them slow mail to you. kay

    11/09/1999 07:16:44
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Betty Allen
    3. Hi, Is there any known reason why the Historical Society or Genealogy Society in Grainger County couldn't see about renting a building? If they could, why couldn't the records be donated to them for safekeeping? Just a little something to think about~ You all are doing publications now, and it seems that would be a great way to pay the rent for a building, and there is also the possibility of creating a Non-profit entity, whereby grants would perhaps be available from the government or philanthophists somewhere. Betty At 02:41 PM 11-09-1999 EST, you wrote: >Yesterday (Monday) I had the opportunity to talk to Grainger Co. Executive >Mickey Hammer. He wasn't in the office when I was at the courthouse but his >secretary took my cell phone number and had him call me. He was very >interested in my concerns for the old records. He hasn't been in the old >school in a while but I did inform him that part of the ceiling had fell. He >understood that the records needed to be preserved but the county didn't have >the funding to hire someone to sort the records nor did the county have a >place to store them once they were sorted. I ask him about the house that the >city of Rutledge had been given and he said he hopes that they could at least >have a room for the records but will have to wait until it is restored to >see. The county is planning a new justice center so there will be room in the >present courthouse to store the records. At this point it's just wait and >see. I ask him about myself and my (friend) helper getting started on sorting >the records. He said there was no funds available. I told him we would do >this at no cost to the county. He was very appreciative and ask what the >county could do to help. I told him all I needed was permission to get to the >records and the permission to take the records to a place where I could work. >He said anything I needed such as file folders and boxes the county would >furnish. The thrift store you have to go through is closed on Mondays so I >couldn't get in yesterday but I made another trip to Rutledge this morning. >We collected 4 large boxes of wills and we will start working on them >immediately. I took pictures of the building on the outside and pictures of >the auditorium where the records are stored. You can tell people have went >through boxes because there were records just laying on top of other boxes. I >ask Mr. Hammer (if at all possible) not to let just anyone into the boxes >that we get in order. I know alot of genealogist wants to look at wills and >marriage records but alot of them don't take the time to put them back where >they belong. I feel that once we get these 4 boxes sorted and filed in order >they will not go back to the auditorium. I will take them to Mr. Hammer and >request that they be put in a safe place. He was very nice and understanding >so I have faith at these will be put in a safe place. When we get these in >order I will type up an index if anyone is interested they will be able to >purchase a copy. This will help fund our work in Grainger Co. If anyone has >any questions please contact me privately so it will not upset anyone on the >list who doesn't want to hear any more about the records. > > >

    11/09/1999 06:42:10
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Richard H. Soard
    3. Mickey, Congratulations on the success of your effort. Count me in on financial contributions, just let me know how to do it. Perhaps there are some business people in Rutledge or the county that might be interested in the records preservation that might have some space available. Maybe some of the real estate people in Grainger might know of some property owners that have vacant buildings/houses that would be willing to offer them temporarily or permanently -- could be a tax write off. Great job. Richard Soard At 02:41 PM 11/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >Yesterday (Monday) I had the opportunity to talk to Grainger Co. Executive >Mickey Hammer. He wasn't in the office when I was at the courthouse but his >secretary took my cell phone number and had him call me. He was very >interested in my concerns for the old records. He hasn't been in the old >school in a while but I did inform him that part of the ceiling had fell. He >understood that the records needed to be preserved but the county didn't have >the funding to hire someone to sort the records nor did the county have a >place to store them once they were sorted. I ask him about the house that the >city of Rutledge had been given and he said he hopes that they could at least >have a room for the records but will have to wait until it is restored to >see. The county is planning a new justice center so there will be room in the >present courthouse to store the records. At this point it's just wait and >see. I ask him about myself and my (friend) helper getting started on sorting >the records. He said there was no funds available. I told him we would do >this at no cost to the county. He was very appreciative and ask what the >county could do to help. I told him all I needed was permission to get to the >records and the permission to take the records to a place where I could work. >He said anything I needed such as file folders and boxes the county would >furnish. The thrift store you have to go through is closed on Mondays so I >couldn't get in yesterday but I made another trip to Rutledge this morning. >We collected 4 large boxes of wills and we will start working on them >immediately. I took pictures of the building on the outside and pictures of >the auditorium where the records are stored. You can tell people have went >through boxes because there were records just laying on top of other boxes. I >ask Mr. Hammer (if at all possible) not to let just anyone into the boxes >that we get in order. I know alot of genealogist wants to look at wills and >marriage records but alot of them don't take the time to put them back where >they belong. I feel that once we get these 4 boxes sorted and filed in order >they will not go back to the auditorium. I will take them to Mr. Hammer and >request that they be put in a safe place. He was very nice and understanding >so I have faith at these will be put in a safe place. When we get these in >order I will type up an index if anyone is interested they will be able to >purchase a copy. This will help fund our work in Grainger Co. If anyone has >any questions please contact me privately so it will not upset anyone on the >list who doesn't want to hear any more about the records. rsoard@mindspring.com

    11/09/1999 06:22:46
    1. [TNGRAING-L] time for a chuckle ot two to break up the tension
    2. Hi Grp, this from another list.....SLR..... ......................................................................... ......................................... Murphy's Genealogy Laws a.. The will you need is in a safe onboard the Titanic. b.. You finally find the wedding record for your gggrandfather only to discover he married Mary SMITH whose father was John SMITH and mother was Mary JONES! c.. You have finally found the information you needed to solve the family mystery you have been working on for 2 years and your elderly aunt says "I could have told you that!" d.. You find an old family photo album and upon close examination, there are no names on the pictures. e.. You learn that your great grandmother's family bible (passed down through the family for 3 generations) was sold at an estate sale in New York City. f.. You find your family in the census and write to the county where they lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county records burned. g. You learn there is a county history on microfilm of the county your ancestors originated. It has 16000 pages and is not indexed. h.. The public ceremony in which your distinguished ancestor participated and at which the platform collapsed under him, turned out to be a hanging. Where is that guy Murphy anyway?? I really do have a few things to say to him! ==== ROACH Mailing List ==== Fred W. Reese freese@netins.net Listowner of ROACH-L, Rootsweb donor please visit http://members.home.net/jfroache/

    11/09/1999 03:05:22
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Yep she did it
    2. What a way to go Mickey. Get em. Proud of you. If you need a donation to help pay for gas, boxes, paper, etc, just let me know Jean

    11/09/1999 03:00:27
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] time for a chuckle ot two to break up the tension
    2. Hahahaha,, I like the "chuckle",,, we needed that :-) That "chuckle" hits home. John Linkes

    11/09/1999 02:38:00
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] School house records
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. I'm sorry but I already wrote to George Bush and the others. Let's don't start another battle over who to write to. Just write to someone (your choice), your letter may not even be read, but then again , who knows. I think Al Gore has already been written to, it was my understanding back in 1993. mary

    11/09/1999 02:29:18
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records
    2. Betty B
    3. Sorry, Mickey, but this is going to be public - THANK YOU !!!! Betty Roach Braune >From: IMsMickey@aol.com >Reply-To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Good News about Records >Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:41:14 EST > >Yesterday (Monday) I had the opportunity to talk to Grainger Co. Executive >Mickey Hammer. He wasn't in the office when I was at the courthouse but his >secretary took my cell phone number and had him call me. He was very >interested in my concerns for the old records. He hasn't been in the old >school in a while but I did inform him that part of the ceiling had fell. >He >understood that the records needed to be preserved but the county didn't >have >the funding to hire someone to sort the records nor did the county have a >place to store them once they were sorted. I ask him about the house that >the >city of Rutledge had been given and he said he hopes that they could at >least >have a room for the records but will have to wait until it is restored to >see. The county is planning a new justice center so there will be room in >the >present courthouse to store the records. At this point it's just wait and >see. I ask him about myself and my (friend) helper getting started on >sorting >the records. He said there was no funds available. I told him we would do >this at no cost to the county. He was very appreciative and ask what the >county could do to help. I told him all I needed was permission to get to >the >records and the permission to take the records to a place where I could >work. >He said anything I needed such as file folders and boxes the county would >furnish. The thrift store you have to go through is closed on Mondays so I >couldn't get in yesterday but I made another trip to Rutledge this morning. >We collected 4 large boxes of wills and we will start working on them >immediately. I took pictures of the building on the outside and pictures of >the auditorium where the records are stored. You can tell people have went >through boxes because there were records just laying on top of other boxes. >I >ask Mr. Hammer (if at all possible) not to let just anyone into the boxes >that we get in order. I know alot of genealogist wants to look at wills and >marriage records but alot of them don't take the time to put them back >where >they belong. I feel that once we get these 4 boxes sorted and filed in >order >they will not go back to the auditorium. I will take them to Mr. Hammer and >request that they be put in a safe place. He was very nice and >understanding >so I have faith at these will be put in a safe place. When we get these in >order I will type up an index if anyone is interested they will be able to >purchase a copy. This will help fund our work in Grainger Co. If anyone has >any questions please contact me privately so it will not upset anyone on >the >list who doesn't want to hear any more about the records. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    11/09/1999 11:43:42
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Interested but discouraged
    2. Hansson
    3. I've been through all this the same as Barbara and agree that we should let it rest. Offer our support and stop bringing it to the list daily. At 10:00 AM 11/9/99 -0800, you wrote: >Please stop bickering. We are all interested in saving the records. I first got on the net in 1997 and this is the third time through this for me. On first hearing about this, I was outraged and wanted badly to seek out a remedy. We wrote to officials and the people living near enough went to see and report the damage. We flogged the dead horse for all we were worth. Finally, blocked at every doorway, we simmered down. A few months later, same thing, but this time a group said they were getting something done. (At first they were not even allowed into the old school building. Then someone got in and gave a report on the deplorable condition of the records. Then came some pictures.) The group "getting something done" said to back off and they were making progress on the situation. >Finally we simmered down again. >Now we are back to square one. I understand how some of you feel, well, most of you feel. I have been through the many emotions involved here so I am willing to let you vent your frustrations. Just don't get mad at each other as you thrash about. Don't write thoughtless unkind things, because it is important that we work together on this list. Remember, we all want the same things. Something positive >about the records and information available to all. We all feel like the key to our past lies in that pile of records. >We need a group working on this, who know what they are doing and are doing it. The rest of us will support such an effort. SO, don't drop out, don't complain and don't flame each other and maybe we will eventually conquer the powers that be. >Barbara >

    11/09/1999 11:10:07
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Interested but discouraged
    2. imadiggin
    3. Please stop bickering. We are all interested in saving the records. I first got on the net in 1997 and this is the third time through this for me. On first hearing about this, I was outraged and wanted badly to seek out a remedy. We wrote to officials and the people living near enough went to see and report the damage. We flogged the dead horse for all we were worth. Finally, blocked at every doorway, we simmered down. A few months later, same thing, but this time a group said they were getting something done. (At first they were not even allowed into the old school building. Then someone got in and gave a report on the deplorable condition of the records. Then came some pictures.) The group "getting something done" said to back off and they were making progress on the situation. Finally we simmered down again. Now we are back to square one. I understand how some of you feel, well, most of you feel. I have been through the many emotions involved here so I am willing to let you vent your frustrations. Just don't get mad at each other as you thrash about. Don't write thoughtless unkind things, because it is important that we work together on this list. Remember, we all want the same things. Something positive about the records and information available to all. We all feel like the key to our past lies in that pile of records. We need a group working on this, who know what they are doing and are doing it. The rest of us will support such an effort. SO, don't drop out, don't complain and don't flame each other and maybe we will eventually conquer the powers that be. Barbara

    11/09/1999 11:00:24