Actually, Debbie, I was looking for Isaac Beeler born sometime between 1847 and 1857. Any help? Steve > Yes, if I am not mistaken there is an 1860 and 1870 Grainger Co., census. > They may not be on-line yet though. > I see that your last name is PIERCE.... is this the surname that you > are researching? If so, what given names are you looking for? Debbie

Thanks Mickey & everyone responding, I wasn't sure so, I asked:-) Which never hurts (ha ha). I will be checking back. Hope to get back down that way again soon (Grainger Co.) to do a little more digging myself. Would love to find where my OLE GGG.Grandfather, John Barnett Linkous/Lincas, is buried, and other info. about him. Thanks again, John Linkes

Hi Gail, Hows it down there?...Question on the book right below.....for Union & Confederate. those were only taken for people who would have been alive in 1914-20? Is that correct? that would narrow them down a bit.....or were the questions asked of the vets earlier and compiled in 1914-20? little confused .... Thanks, Sharon TENNESSEE CIVIL WAR QUESTIONNAIRES, 5 VOLS. ed. Elliott & Armstrong, > 1985: > Wide ranging personal, biographical, genealogical and historical > data > revealed by 1500 Tennessee veterans, Union and Confederate, compiled > 1914-20 > by Tenn. State Library. 2473 pp. altogether. Indexed. (#12). Per > volume > $36.00, the set $150.00 > > Also have "Twenty-Four Hundred Tennessee Pensioners - Revolution War > of 1812 > by Zella Armstrong. Published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. > 1981 > > PLEASE SEND TO ME PRIVATELY AND NOT TO THE LIST. INDICATE WHICH > RECORD/S YOU > WOULD LIKE CHECKED AND THE NAME OF THE PERSON. > > > Gail in Moreno Valley, Ca. > genenut@aol.com >

But the reason I was looking for the Grainger >County Census is that I am looking for Isaac N. Beeler (my ggrandfather >on my mother's side). I have info on an Isaac Beeler whose parents were Daniel Henry Beeler and Wyney Lavina Wolfenbarger and an Isaac or Isacc Beeler whose parents were Robert Beeler and Penelope Shelton. Regards, Duane Mills Stavanger, Norway

Steven, A distant PIERCE relative has done about 18 years of research on the PIERCE lines from Jefferson and Grainger Co. However I do not believe that I recall anyone in Union, Claiborne, or Campbell Counties. Union may have been part of Jefferson or Grainger at one time though. Therefore, I would not rule out the possibility of a connection. She has given me copies of all of her work and has given me permission to share her work as I see need to. I have input this all into a FTM program. I would be happy to help if I can. My gg-grandmother was a PIERCE. Her name was Nancy Adaline PIERCE and she married David Tate Travis in 1865 in Jefferson Co.,TN. Debbie blakley3@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Pierce" <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> > Yes, I am looking for Pierce info... either in Union, Claiborne, Campbell, or Grainger County.

Evelyn, There are several records accessible through the Grainger County GenWeb page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngraing/ The records are at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngraing/research.htm Surname indices to the 1830, 1840, and 1850 census are available here at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngraing/census.htm And also throught the USGENWEB Archives at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/grainger.htm There is a published 1860 Grainger Co. census book but I don't think it is still available for purchase. Byron Sistler and Associates have published several Tennessee census indexes 1830-1880, including Grainger County for 1840 and 1880. For other counties try the USGENWEB archives which you can get to from the Grainger County site above. Also try Cyndi's List. Hope this helps. Ross Cameron >>> Hansson <rethanss@ekucolonel.com> 12/15/99 08:58PM >>> Ross, where would I look on the net to find the Census Schedules that are on-line? Thanks, Evelyn Hansson Richmond, KY At 09:39 AM 12/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >Grainger County Federal Census Population Schedules open for research are: > >1810 (partial) >1830 >1840 >1850 (Free and Slave) >1860 (Free and Slave) >1870 >1880 >1890 (Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans schedule only; no population schedule) >1900 >1910 >1920 >The 1930 census will open in 2002. > >Some census or parts thereof are available online, some are printed, some are microfilm. > >Ross Cameron > >>>> "Stephen Pierce" <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> 12/15 5:35 AM >>> >Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a >thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > >Steve > >

The special census of Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans in 1890 was probably for use by the United States Pension Bureau which at that time only pensioned Union veterans, widows, and minor children. The Federal Government did not give pensions to Confederate veterans and widows until many many years later. This census was not supposed to list Confederate veterans and widows, but in some counties these persons were also included and in some cases the names were then crossed out. Usually they were not included. I do not know whether Confederates were erroneously included for Grainger County or not. There are some books published on Tennessee Confederates and Pensions. For a start see the Byron Sistler & Associates web page at: http://www.mindspring.com/~sistler/ Among those listed on Confederates and the 1890 Census are: INDEX TO TENNESSEE CONFEDERATE PENSION APPLICATIONS by TN State Library, 1964, revised by Samuel Sistler, 1994: Essential information from over 28,000 files, including applications of soldiers, widows, and "colored" soldiers. Copies of the original complete pension files are available at theTennessee State Library in Nashville. 300 entries not in original book. 400 pp. Hardbound. (#9501) $36.50 TENNESSEANS IN THE CIVIL WAR, 2 vol. by Civil War Centennial Comm. (#11A) Part 1, 1964, reprinted 1984: A military history of Confederate and Union units, including place of residence of participants by company and similar unit. 470 pp. $38.00 / (#11B) Part 2, 1965, reprinted 1981: A listing in alphabetical order of all TN residents known to have participated on either Union or Confederate side in the Civil War, with rank and unit served with. 612 pp. $48.00 TENNESSEE CIVIL WAR QUESTIONNAIRES, 5 VOLS. ed. Elliott & Armstrong, 1985: Wide ranging personal, biographical, genealogical and historical data revealed by 1500 Tennessee veterans, Union and Confederate, compiled 1914-20 by Tenn. State Library. 2473 pp. altogether. Indexed. (#12). Per volume $36.00, the set $150.00 TENNESSEE'S CONFEDERATE WIDOWS AND THEIR FAMILIES by Edna Wiefering & Charles Sherrill, 1992: Abstracts of 11,200 TN Confederate pension applications. Includes widow's maiden name plus data on the soldier and his wife such as birth dates and places, marriages, his death date, etc. 60,000 names mentioned altogether. Hardcover. 479 pp. Fully indexed. (#9308) $45.00 EAST TENNESSEE AND THE CIVIL WAR by Oliver B. Temple, 1899, repr. 1995: Social, political, and military history; beginning with the state's first settlers. Describes the rise of abolitionism and secessionism, then details the war itself, finally documenting the siege and relief of Knoxville. A thorough and objective treatment of the subject. 588 pp. Hardcover. Indexed. (#9742) $32.50 1890 CIVIL WAR VETERANS CENSUS--TENNESSEE by Byron & Barbara Sistler, 1978: A listing of all known veterans as enumerated in the 1890 U.S. Census. Includes names of veterans & their widows, rank & unit served with, dates of service, current PO address, & disability incurred in the war. Names arranged in alphabetical order. Though this special census was intended to cover only Union veterans, about 10% of the 26,000 men were Confederates. (#9) $45.00 -- Detail available from this book for $5 each surname. 1890 CIVIL WAR VETERANS CENSUS--TENNESSEANS IN TEXAS by Byron & Barbara Sistler, 1978: About 550 men living in Texas in 1890 who served in Tennessee units during the Civil War (similar to #9); mostly Union veterans. Soft cover. (#10) $7.00 You might also check Civil War websites which may contain information. If you don't know how to find them, start with Cyndi's List of web sites about the Civil War at: http://www.CyndisList.com/cw.htm Hope this helps. Ross Cameron >>> <JNWatson@aol.com> 12/16/99 06:38AM >>> Hello Mr Cameron, I saw your answer to a post regarding the existence of the census records of Grainger Co TN and the fact that there is a listing for Union Veterans and Union Veterans Widows for 1890. My question is whether there is also such a listing for Confederate soldiers and widows too. Would these records be online somewhere? Thanks in advance, JN

Thanks to all who have replied to my cry for help. Steve > Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a > thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? >

Yes, I am looking for Pierce info... either in Union, Claiborne, Campbell, or Grainger County. But the reason I was looking for the Grainger County Census is that I am looking for Isaac N. Beeler (my ggrandfather on my mother's side). > Hi, > I dunno about the census but are you looking for Pierce info? Garron. > > > >Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a > >thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > >

I have the following books that were referenced. I am willing to do lookups from them, however need for you to be fairly specific. Can't do any "anyone with a surname of _ _ _ _ _ _ _". Please also be patient, have ran into some time constraints recently. Should correct itself after the first of the year. INDEX TO TENNESSEE CONFEDERATE PENSION APPLICATIONS by TN State Library, 1964, revised by Samuel Sistler, 1994: Essential information from over 28,000 files, including applications of soldiers, widows, and "colored" soldiers. Copies of the original complete pension files are available at theTennessee State Library in Nashville. 300 entries not in original book. 400 pp. Hardbound. (#9501) $36.50 TENNESSEANS IN THE CIVIL WAR, 2 vol. by Civil War Centennial Comm. (#11A) Part 1, 1964, reprinted 1984: A military history of Confederate and Union units, including place of residence of participants by company and similar unit. 470 pp. $38.00 / (#11B) Part 2, 1965, reprinted 1981: A listing in alphabetical order of all TN residents known to have participated on either Union or Confederate side in the Civil War, with rank and unit served with. 612 pp. $48.00 TENNESSEE CIVIL WAR QUESTIONNAIRES, 5 VOLS. ed. Elliott & Armstrong, 1985: Wide ranging personal, biographical, genealogical and historical data revealed by 1500 Tennessee veterans, Union and Confederate, compiled 1914-20 by Tenn. State Library. 2473 pp. altogether. Indexed. (#12). Per volume $36.00, the set $150.00 Also have "Twenty-Four Hundred Tennessee Pensioners - Revolution War of 1812 by Zella Armstrong. Published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. 1981 PLEASE SEND TO ME PRIVATELY AND NOT TO THE LIST. INDICATE WHICH RECORD/S YOU WOULD LIKE CHECKED AND THE NAME OF THE PERSON. Gail in Moreno Valley, Ca. genenut@aol.com

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For some good census links, you might check here: http://censuslinks.com Donna GeneaSearch.com http://www.geneasearch.com GeneaSearch Tools http://www.geneasearch.com/tools.htm Surname Site http://surnamesite.com ----- Original Message ----- From: blakley <blakley3@earthlink.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 8:55 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] ROOTSWEB Census URL'S > "Forgive me if this is a newbie question" > > > Steve, > I looked on Rootsweb and they do not yet have the Grainger census info > posted. Someone else may have that info on line already though? As you > may have need of the other States and counties sometime, I am sending you > this URL. :~) > http://www.usgenweb.org/census/states.htm > > The next URL is one of Rootsweb's main pages and it list's all sorts of > neat things that you might find of use. If you already know about this > page...please just "deleat". Thanks, Deb > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > >

Hi, I dunno about the census but are you looking for Pierce info? Garron. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Pierce <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> To: TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 2:36 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Census >Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a >thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > >Steve > >

Yes, there is an 1860 and 1870 census for Grainger County. Also you should be aware that if you had ancestors living in the part of Grainger County and Jefferson Counties that became present day Hamblen County they would still be listed on the 1870 census in Jefferson and Grainger Counties. Hamblen County dates from 1870, but the first federal census for Hamlen County was taken in 1880. Gail in MO > Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a > thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > > Steve > >

Grainger County did not exist in 1790, but there are no known schedules for any counties in Tennessee for 1790. There are no known 1800 nor 1820 schedules for Grainger County. Pollyanna Creekmore discusses the lost East Tennessee census schedules in her Introduction to the published 1810 partial census schedule: "It is not known whether the Tennessee schedules (except for Rutherford County) were lost while in the custody of the Clerks of the Federal District Courts or whether they were lost or burned subsequently to being sent to Washington" in 1830. Ross >>> "Ross Cameron" <ross.cameron@arch2.nara.gov> 12/15 9:44 AM >>> Grainger County Federal Census Population Schedules open for research are: 1810 (partial) 1830 1840 1850 (Free and Slave) 1860 (Free and Slave) 1870 1880 1890 (Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans schedule only; no population schedule) 1900 1910 1920 The 1930 census will open in 2002. Some census or parts thereof are available online, some are printed, some are microfilm. Ross Cameron >>> "Stephen Pierce" <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> 12/15 5:35 AM >>> Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? Steve

"Forgive me if this is a newbie question" > Steve, I looked on Rootsweb and they do not yet have the Grainger census info posted. Someone else may have that info on line already though? As you may have need of the other States and counties sometime, I am sending you this URL. :~) http://www.usgenweb.org/census/states.htm The next URL is one of Rootsweb's main pages and it list's all sorts of neat things that you might find of use. If you already know about this page...please just "deleat". Thanks, Deb http://www.rootsweb.com/

Grainger County Federal Census Population Schedules open for research are: 1810 (partial) 1830 1840 1850 (Free and Slave) 1860 (Free and Slave) 1870 1880 1890 (Union Veterans and Widows of Union Veterans schedule only; no population schedule) 1900 1910 1920 The 1930 census will open in 2002. Some census or parts thereof are available online, some are printed, some are microfilm. Ross Cameron >>> "Stephen Pierce" <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> 12/15 5:35 AM >>> Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? Steve

Hi Steve -- There certainly should be censuses for those years. Every now and again, a census gets destroyed, but to my knowledge, Grainger's fine. However, I've just started my research here, so I could be wrong. The 1890 census was almost completely destroyed for the entire country. That's about the only one that you shouldn't be able to get. Good luck with your research. Stephen Pierce wrote: > Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a > thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > > Steve

Hi Stephen.... Yes, if I am not mistaken there is an 1860 and 1870 Grainger Co., census. They may not be on-line yet though. I see that your last name is PIERCE.... is this the surname that you are researching? If so, what given names are you looking for? Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Pierce" <stephen.pierce@worldnet.att.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 4:38 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Census > Forgive me if this is a newbie question, but is there such a > thing as an 1860 and 1870 Grainger County Census ? > > Steve > >

Looking for any information about William Ellis m. Phebe Lacy in Grainger Co, TN 1817. Moved to McMinn County then Maries Co, MO in the 1850's. Thanks, Donna GeneaSearch.com http://www.geneasearch.com GeneaSearch Tools http://www.geneasearch.com/tools.htm Surname Site http://surnamesite.com