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    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Re:Stubblefield
    2. Do you have an approximate year for the marriage of Wyatt Stubblefield?

    01/17/2000 03:06:46
    1. Marr lookups
    2. Steve or Diana Reints
    3. Dear group: You might not all believe this but I am offering to help those who do not have the money or the understanding that the original marriage records have been perserved. I am not offering copies of the originals. I am not telling people what is a noble cause and what is not or how to spend THEIR money. If you want to get hot under the collar and flame me, I was expecting that. I can quickly delete. If you want me to do a lookup in the marriage books that I have access to, then email me. And I still maintain that this rootsweb list is not meant for the selling of genealogy materials or services not matter how noble the reason, that can be done on a personal website. For those of you who requested lookups or want lookups, I will be going down tomorrow night to do them for this week. Diana

    01/17/2000 01:30:57
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Re:Stubblefield
    2. Does anyone know where I might find documentation of the marriage of Wyatt Stubblefield (Native American) to Sarah (also Native American)? in TN?

    01/17/2000 12:45:13
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger Co TN: Wife of Samuel Dodson 1774-1860
    2. MARY ELIZABETH BATEMAN
    3. Bill, Please check out the following site: http://www.greencis.net/~sandysq/gra_ty.htm Partial Records Grainger Co.,TN Marriages 1796-1827 I see listed: Samuel Dodson married Mary Williams Aug 3,1820 bondsman Samuel Dodson/William Moore I hope this helps. Mary Bill Waller wrote: > > To ALL: Anyone willing to share their ideas about the first wife of Samuel > Dodson (b VA 1774- d Grainger Co TN 1860)? Two quotes follow: (1) the Lucas > Dodson book (v1 p189) says of this Samuel "His first wife MAY HAVE BEEN Mary > (Polly) Dalton, [my emphasis]. Probably based on Reuben Dalton's 1822 Grainger > Co TN will, mentioned daughter Polly Dodson. Someone may have looked at the > 1810 partial Grainger Co TN Census and picked Samuel for her husband. ANY > PROOF FOR DALTON WIFE FOR SAMUEL? And (2) statement of this Samuel's grandson. > Grandson's father would have known his mother's name. Thanks.--Bill > ----------------------- > "The Dodson (Dotson) Family of North Farnham Parish, Richmond County, > Virginia: A History and Genealogy of Their Descendants" said of this Samuel: > > "His first wife may have been Mary (Polly) Dalton, daughter of Reuben Dalton, > Sr. If this proves to be true, they were married during the early 1790's." > > "Samuel Dotson's first wife died before 1830 as that census shows no females > in Samuel Dotson's household. Some of the researchers on this family have the > belief that the first wife of Samuel Dotson was a Stone, but nothing has been > found to confirm this belief." > > "According to information supplied by Mr C H Dotson to family researchers, the > wife of Samuel Dodson was a Clontz. Evidently this was his second wife, Susan, > in his household on the 1850 census,..." etc. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > 1921 statement re wives of Samuel Dodson by Claiborn Hicks Dotson. > [Claiborn Hicks Dotson, 1838-1921 was grandson > and lived in the same area/county > of this Samuel Dodson/Dotson, 1774-1860. > Claiborn's marriage in 1861, one year after Samuel's death, > put him in the home of Samuel's son, William Dotson, > (father of my great grandmother, Elizabeth Minerva Dotson Waller) > who would certainly know his mother's name.] > > "Aunt Sallie McANALLY was Born March 24 1789 Died April 5, 1877 > She married Charles BURNS > too them was Born two Children Charles and Ruth > She then maried Samuel DOTSON > she was his 3rd wife > his first wife was a CLOUNCH [CLONTZ] > his Second was a STONE > Aunt Sallie as we all called her was Sallie BURNS Formily Sallie McANALLY > a sister to Grandpap McANALLY Charles a Preacher." > --------------------------------------------------------------

    01/17/2000 12:32:25
    1. [TNGRAING-L] forgot first close quote mark
    2. Bill Waller
    3. Sorry. I left out first close quote.--Bill To ALL: Anyone willing to share their ideas about the first wife of Samuel Dodson (b VA 1774- d Grainger Co TN 1860)? Two quotes follow: (1) the Lucas Dodson book (v1 p189) says of this Samuel "His first wife MAY HAVE BEEN Mary (Polly) Dalton," [my emphasis]. Probably based on Reuben Dalton's 1822 Grainger Co TN will, mentioned daughter Polly Dodson. Someone may have looked at the 1810 partial Grainger Co TN Census and picked Samuel for her husband. ANY PROOF FOR DALTON WIFE FOR SAMUEL? And (2) statement of this Samuel's grandson. Grandson's father would have known his mother's name. Thanks.--Bill

    01/16/2000 10:44:40
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. I only have one complaint on these books, why are the bondsmans not put into those? as they can sometimes be important clues because they are usually relatives, on one side or the other Is there a good reason why that is NOT included?or wasn't in the 1820-29 book anyway Thanks, Sharon On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:39:21 EST Mcrincha@aol.com writes: > Hang in there, Mickey, and keep up the good work! > > Mary Carol in Chattanooga > Sharon R WA State

    01/16/2000 10:42:51
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Grainger Co TN: Wife of Samuel Dodson 1774-1860
    2. Bill Waller
    3. To ALL: Anyone willing to share their ideas about the first wife of Samuel Dodson (b VA 1774- d Grainger Co TN 1860)? Two quotes follow: (1) the Lucas Dodson book (v1 p189) says of this Samuel "His first wife MAY HAVE BEEN Mary (Polly) Dalton, [my emphasis]. Probably based on Reuben Dalton's 1822 Grainger Co TN will, mentioned daughter Polly Dodson. Someone may have looked at the 1810 partial Grainger Co TN Census and picked Samuel for her husband. ANY PROOF FOR DALTON WIFE FOR SAMUEL? And (2) statement of this Samuel's grandson. Grandson's father would have known his mother's name. Thanks.--Bill ----------------------- "The Dodson (Dotson) Family of North Farnham Parish, Richmond County, Virginia: A History and Genealogy of Their Descendants" said of this Samuel: "His first wife may have been Mary (Polly) Dalton, daughter of Reuben Dalton, Sr. If this proves to be true, they were married during the early 1790's." "Samuel Dotson's first wife died before 1830 as that census shows no females in Samuel Dotson's household. Some of the researchers on this family have the belief that the first wife of Samuel Dotson was a Stone, but nothing has been found to confirm this belief." "According to information supplied by Mr C H Dotson to family researchers, the wife of Samuel Dodson was a Clontz. Evidently this was his second wife, Susan, in his household on the 1850 census,..." etc. - ---------------------------------------------------------- 1921 statement re wives of Samuel Dodson by Claiborn Hicks Dotson. [Claiborn Hicks Dotson, 1838-1921 was grandson and lived in the same area/county of this Samuel Dodson/Dotson, 1774-1860. Claiborn's marriage in 1861, one year after Samuel's death, put him in the home of Samuel's son, William Dotson, (father of my great grandmother, Elizabeth Minerva Dotson Waller) who would certainly know his mother's name.] "Aunt Sallie McANALLY was Born March 24 1789 Died April 5, 1877 She married Charles BURNS too them was Born two Children Charles and Ruth She then maried Samuel DOTSON she was his 3rd wife his first wife was a CLOUNCH [CLONTZ] his Second was a STONE Aunt Sallie as we all called her was Sallie BURNS Formily Sallie McANALLY a sister to Grandpap McANALLY Charles a Preacher." - ------------------------------------------------------------

    01/16/2000 10:28:03
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mallicoat
    2. Mickey, Sure do appreciate it. Yes, I have your books and a great help on others. Keep up the good work. It seems my Larkin has become a ghost as far as marriage. Thanks, really do appreciate all you hard work. Jean In a message dated 1/16/00 7:05:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, IMsMickey@aol.com writes: << ean, I believe you ordered my book(s) so I guess you know that there isn't a record still on file for Larkin Mallicoat. I will try to keep an eye out for it just in case it is misfiled. As we transcribe these we are refiling the records so they will be in the correct boxes. If I run across it I will get you a copy of it. Thanks for your support. Mickey >>

    01/16/2000 03:44:18
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Barry and Rebecca Millet
    3. unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred White <milly@kiva.net> To: <TNGRAING-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups > Sorry > I meant right in Rebecca!!!!!!!! > Mildred > > Rebecca McGowan wrote: > > > Diana, > > > > I'm replying to the list in case their are others that feel the same way you > > do. Perhaps you were not around when this first started. The GROUP asked > > Mickey to do this for us. She is not making money off of the enterprise. > > The money is covering the cost of printing and shipping. You are under no > > obligation to participate if you prefer other sources. We know other > > sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the original document > > still exists, since the records are in such bad shape since the flood and > > the movement of the originals to the old school. If it shows up in another > > source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to get a copy of the > > original record. But if it shows up on Mickey's list. Its still there. > > And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for you if > > you asked. So, lighten up and press the delete key if you're not > > interested. > > > > Rebecca > > > > Steve or Diana Reints wrote: > > > > > Dear group- > > > > > > I object to someone using this list to sell genealogy materials. Even > > > if some of you don't mind, this list is not intended for one selling > > > their services. The second reason I object is that many people on this > > > list are not aware that there are printed marriages books in existence > > > that are more detailed than Mickey's and and there is a microfilm that > > > can be ordered free from the TN library and the FHC. And I am also > > > dismayed that the pages in each book are so few that all the pages could > > > be combined into one book for a reasonal price. > > > > > > Everyone has the choice of what they do and how they spend their money > > > but to help out those that really need the information and would rather > > > not buy a book, I will do look ups for you FOR FREE! for your Grainger > > > marriages. I will be happy to do it because so many people have helped > > > me the same way with my research. And that is the way it is done on > > > lists like this and in the genealogical world. The most people usually > > > asked for the postage. > > > > > > Diana > >

    01/16/2000 03:38:59
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mallicoat
    2. Jean, I believe you ordered my book(s) so I guess you know that there isn't a record still on file for Larkin Mallicoat. I will try to keep an eye out for it just in case it is misfiled. As we transcribe these we are refiling the records so they will be in the correct boxes. If I run across it I will get you a copy of it. Thanks for your support. Mickey

    01/16/2000 03:04:19
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Mildred White
    3. Sorry I meant right in Rebecca!!!!!!!! Mildred Rebecca McGowan wrote: > Diana, > > I'm replying to the list in case their are others that feel the same way you > do. Perhaps you were not around when this first started. The GROUP asked > Mickey to do this for us. She is not making money off of the enterprise. > The money is covering the cost of printing and shipping. You are under no > obligation to participate if you prefer other sources. We know other > sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the original document > still exists, since the records are in such bad shape since the flood and > the movement of the originals to the old school. If it shows up in another > source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to get a copy of the > original record. But if it shows up on Mickey's list. Its still there. > And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for you if > you asked. So, lighten up and press the delete key if you're not > interested. > > Rebecca > > Steve or Diana Reints wrote: > > > Dear group- > > > > I object to someone using this list to sell genealogy materials. Even > > if some of you don't mind, this list is not intended for one selling > > their services. The second reason I object is that many people on this > > list are not aware that there are printed marriages books in existence > > that are more detailed than Mickey's and and there is a microfilm that > > can be ordered free from the TN library and the FHC. And I am also > > dismayed that the pages in each book are so few that all the pages could > > be combined into one book for a reasonal price. > > > > Everyone has the choice of what they do and how they spend their money > > but to help out those that really need the information and would rather > > not buy a book, I will do look ups for you FOR FREE! for your Grainger > > marriages. I will be happy to do it because so many people have helped > > me the same way with my research. And that is the way it is done on > > lists like this and in the genealogical world. The most people usually > > asked for the postage. > > > > Diana

    01/16/2000 02:54:06
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Mildred White
    3. Right on Diana!!! Mildred Rebecca McGowan wrote: > Diana, > > I'm replying to the list in case their are others that feel the same way you > do. Perhaps you were not around when this first started. The GROUP asked > Mickey to do this for us. She is not making money off of the enterprise. > The money is covering the cost of printing and shipping. You are under no > obligation to participate if you prefer other sources. We know other > sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the original document > still exists, since the records are in such bad shape since the flood and > the movement of the originals to the old school. If it shows up in another > source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to get a copy of the > original record. But if it shows up on Mickey's list. Its still there. > And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for you if > you asked. So, lighten up and press the delete key if you're not > interested. > > Rebecca > > Steve or Diana Reints wrote: > > > Dear group- > > > > I object to someone using this list to sell genealogy materials. Even > > if some of you don't mind, this list is not intended for one selling > > their services. The second reason I object is that many people on this > > list are not aware that there are printed marriages books in existence > > that are more detailed than Mickey's and and there is a microfilm that > > can be ordered free from the TN library and the FHC. And I am also > > dismayed that the pages in each book are so few that all the pages could > > be combined into one book for a reasonal price. > > > > Everyone has the choice of what they do and how they spend their money > > but to help out those that really need the information and would rather > > not buy a book, I will do look ups for you FOR FREE! for your Grainger > > marriages. I will be happy to do it because so many people have helped > > me the same way with my research. And that is the way it is done on > > lists like this and in the genealogical world. The most people usually > > asked for the postage. > > > > Diana

    01/16/2000 02:52:57
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Hang in there, Mickey, and keep up the good work! Mary Carol in Chattanooga

    01/16/2000 02:39:21
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Mary Tuley
    3. I have one marriage of James Davis to Martha Long Feb 14 1849 Grainger County, Tn. He married to Julia (Last name unknown) Do you happen to have a date for this marriage and her last name ? Thanks, Mary

    01/16/2000 02:14:35
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Thank you Mickey for all you help and I sure do enjoy my books. Ca does the same on lookups. If nothing found they keep the money. A cousin asked me to look up a person here in Fresno, she had written to Sacramento for the records, my cousin had one letter in the name misspelt and they kept her money. I found it right off when I went down to the Hall of Records. Now onto genealogy. Does anyone have the marriage date for Larkin Mallicoat abt 1817-1818 believe Grainger Co., TN? Might be under different spelling: Larken Malicoat/ Larken Malicoate. Only know his wife's first name from 1850 census. Mary and 1860 census states Polly for Campbell Co., TN. Thanks Jean

    01/16/2000 12:11:08
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. I have spent way too much time trying to assure Diana that I'm not trying to take advantage of anyone. She is going to have her opinion no matter want I say or do. I just want everyone to know why I posted more info about making copies for anyone and about the books. I posted it to the list because I had so many people interested that there was no way I could sit and send email to each individual. Below you will find the address for the Grainger County Court Clerk. They will do lookups for you for $20.00 per search whether or not anything is found. If you find a marriage record on microfilm you can send your $20.00 to get a copy, if it is no longer there all you will be out is $20.00. But Diana can get you a copy for free. So Diana please post your mailing address so everyone can send their request to you for their free copies. Grainger Co. Court Clerk Rutledge, TN 37861 Attn: Barbara Jackson

    01/16/2000 11:45:28
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Hi folks, ------------------> SNIP >----------------------> > We know other sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the >original document still exists, since the records are in such bad shape >since the flood and the movement of the originals to the old school. >If it shows up in another source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will >be able to get a copy of the original record. But if it shows up on >Mickey's list. Its still there. >And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for >you if you asked. ------------------> SNIP >------------------------> I would like to pass on an important lesson that I learned early on when I started researching. If two different people write a book and some of the time frames overlap, believe it or not, but for that time period both books will not show the same marriages. Either because the transcriber couldn't read the writing and didn't take the time to really decipher it or the page/loose paper with the info was misfiled/missing. I have found this to be true in more than one instance. You might go to the courthouse and not find the record even though you know "whatever" did occur in that county, check ALL and ANYTHING WRITTEN or FILMED. I did meet someone who had gone to the courthouse and had spent hours going through books but couldn't find anything, she came to the archives and just decided to check the microfilm of the same records. Guess what, she FOUND the info she had been looking for. In the case of GRAINGER County records it is important to know what still exists today, as we have had several list members who have said that they were told they could take the original records after they had been microfilmed, and I remember one person actually saying, "if I'd known that, I would have taken all of my relatives' records". Very IRRESPONSIBLE on the part of the clerk and ANYONE taking original info or for that matter cutting pages out of books. YES! that happens also. Personally, I always try to see ORIGINAL records because I may read a name one way and you might read it another way. An example of this is misreading David and Daniel. There are many others because we are not familiar with the old styles of handwriting. Actually, I have to be very careful if I have anyone type anything that I have written because they always misread my "r" as an "n" because I was not educated in the U.S. Off my soapbox. Happy Hunting, Donna ------------------> SNIP >----------------------> > We know other sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the >original document still exists, since the records are in such bad shape >since the flood and the movement of the originals to the old school. >If it shows up in another source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will >be able to get a copy of the original record. But if it shows up on >Mickey's list. Its still there. >And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for >you if you asked.

    01/16/2000 11:32:04
    1. [TNGRAING-L] Smith
    2. I am searching for James Smith who married Isabell Dukes. The marriage occurred between 1875 and 1895 in Grainger County. They had three children: Clifford, Charlie, and May. Isabel is my great grandmother. This was her first marriage and no one in our family has any records of her first marriage and their descendants. Veronica Fox

    01/16/2000 10:44:25
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. Rebecca McGowan
    3. Diana, I'm replying to the list in case their are others that feel the same way you do. Perhaps you were not around when this first started. The GROUP asked Mickey to do this for us. She is not making money off of the enterprise. The money is covering the cost of printing and shipping. You are under no obligation to participate if you prefer other sources. We know other sources exist. What we don't know is whether or not the original document still exists, since the records are in such bad shape since the flood and the movement of the originals to the old school. If it shows up in another source, it doesn't necessarily mean you will be able to get a copy of the original record. But if it shows up on Mickey's list. Its still there. And she was nice enough to offer to make copies of the originals for you if you asked. So, lighten up and press the delete key if you're not interested. Rebecca Steve or Diana Reints wrote: > Dear group- > > I object to someone using this list to sell genealogy materials. Even > if some of you don't mind, this list is not intended for one selling > their services. The second reason I object is that many people on this > list are not aware that there are printed marriages books in existence > that are more detailed than Mickey's and and there is a microfilm that > can be ordered free from the TN library and the FHC. And I am also > dismayed that the pages in each book are so few that all the pages could > be combined into one book for a reasonal price. > > Everyone has the choice of what they do and how they spend their money > but to help out those that really need the information and would rather > not buy a book, I will do look ups for you FOR FREE! for your Grainger > marriages. I will be happy to do it because so many people have helped > me the same way with my research. And that is the way it is done on > lists like this and in the genealogical world. The most people usually > asked for the postage. > > Diana

    01/16/2000 09:12:25
    1. Re: [TNGRAING-L] M's marr bks&lookups
    2. I agree. This discussion has gone on long enough. If you are not interested just simply hit "DELETE" and you won't be involved. HOWEVER, THERE ARE MANY OF US WHO PREFER TO HAVE THE REFERENCE MATERIAL AT HAND RATHER THAN GO THROUGH MICRO FILMS, and we are quite willing to buy the books in any form they are published. We who are interested are not complaining about the price.

    01/16/2000 04:26:12