In a message dated 3/7/2003 6:48:12 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since I > >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let > >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably > >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked away > >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in > >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! Excuse me, but wouldn't that constitute THEFT?

Is there someone who will do lookups in Grainger Co.? I'm looking for an 1862 court record involving Sarah/Sallie Acuff Dodson/Dotson. It lists 4 of her children who were still living at the time. I think it has to do with her estate or dower. If anyone has access to this type of record, I would like to hear from them. This is one I really need. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Conni Braun [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records I hope for everyone's sake that the records were microfilmed. Like you I live out of state and have to rely on the wonderful people on the mail lists who will do lookups. Happy Researching! ----- Original Message ----- From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > Conni, > > This is only partly true. My understanding is that most of these > records were supposed to have been (microfilmed?) or at least > transcribed by the WPA and these were sent to TSLA. The records > themselves remained at the county level. > > I long knew when my ggggfather married in Grainger Co. but thanks to > Mickey Morris and Debbie (do not remember last name) who used to > research the records and even made a set of mg. books, I got a copy > of the original to match against the transcript. It was both > wonderful and productive to see the original mg. liscense and bond > because it clearly showed he was literate and could sign his name. > > I wish I lived near Grainger Co. as I would gladly volunteer to help. > > Duane > > >I didn't take it that way but just to let you know that it is happening. > >That's a bad situation that is going to hurt the rest of us who are > >searching for documentation about our ancestors. I tend to document > >everything and there are a number of holes in my family history that I may > >never be able to find because there are documents which are no longer > >available to me. > > > >Conni > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:39 AM > >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > > > > > >> Conni, > >> > >> I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if it > >> is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required > >> to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future > >> researchers are not penalized. > >> > >> Duane Mills > >> > >> >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since > >I > >> >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let > >> >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably > >> >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked > >away > >> >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in > >> >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > >> > > >> >Conni > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach > >(LONG) > >> > > >> > > >> >> SharR, > >> >> > >> >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents > >out > >> >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > >> >> > >> >> Duane Mills > >> >> > >> >> >Gail and any Cousins... > >> >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > >> >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach > >and > >> >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > >> >> > > >> >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > >> >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > >> > > >SharR > >> > >> > >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >> > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

I have also heard that some records have 'disappeared' over the years, but am happy to report that at this time the records are being cleaned up and filmed. People are wearing masks as they work because of bird droppings and all that stuff - anyway, according to reports, they are making good progress. Some they are having to soak in a special solution because they are so brittle and they cannot unfold them until they correct the dried out condition. The state has made some funds available and the building is being repaird to keep the rain out and shelving has been furnished. If I understand correctly, 4 people are working full time on this project and have been for some months. sue --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 02/25/2003

Duane: I didn't take it that way but just to let you know that it is happening. That's a bad situation that is going to hurt the rest of us who are searching for documentation about our ancestors. I tend to document everything and there are a number of holes in my family history that I may never be able to find because there are documents which are no longer available to me. Conni ----- Original Message ----- From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > Conni, > > I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if it > is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required > to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future > researchers are not penalized. > > Duane Mills > > >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since I > >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let > >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably > >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked away > >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in > >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > > > >Conni > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM > >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > > > > > >> SharR, > >> > >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents out > >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > >> > >> Duane Mills > >> > >> >Gail and any Cousins... > >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and > >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > >> > > >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > > > >SharR > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Does anyone have a book or information on Mitchell marriages that took place in Grainger County in the 1800s? If so could you take the time to do some postings? I have several family members for which I have no information, especially the females. I am especially interested in marriages for the following: Tabitha, born 1791 William Jr. born 1793 Aquilla born 1795 Isaac born 1800

Duane Mills: That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since I started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked away with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! Conni ----- Original Message ----- From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > SharR, > > You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents out > of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > > Duane Mills > > >Gail and any Cousins... > >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and > >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > > > >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > >SharR > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

SharR, You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents out of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. Duane Mills >Gail and any Cousins... >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two >SharR

Dear Sheri, I am still trying to keep up with all this Mayes "stuff". It is great to see so much interest, but like I said I type very slowly. I will try to keep up with these two separate threads, if I can. <grin> I know you are working hard to correct your corrspondent's data. Anyway I just noticed this. In your letter which appeared on the list February 28, You said: "says but need to read on this). This report indicates that Jane Mayes 1792-1846, sister of Nancy, married Benjamin Ivey 1791-?. I have no other information on Jane." My third great grandmother Jane "Jenny" Mayes Ivy (or Ivey) was still alive in 1870. She is listed on the 1870 Grainger County census and is living with her two unmarried children Susannah "Susan" Ivy and Patrick Birdwll Ivy. I am not sure when she died. The exact or at least approximate death dates of many of Sherrod's children are known and I think it is up to me since I am descended from Jane to find out. <grin> This may involve a trip to Tennessee so I think I will get up tomorrow morning and jsut drive there (probably not.. <wry grin>. Real life does go on doesn't it?) Jane may have been the last of Sherrod's children to die. I am not sure when Jonathon Mayes died though. I will see what I can find out about this. Jane's husband Benjamin died in 1853 in Grainger County (Benjamin Ivy will (1853) Grainger County will book 3:107&108). I am not sure where the date 1846 comes from. Perhaps there is some confusion here between Jane and her mother-in-law Jane Howell Ivy, although Jane Howell Ivey died in 1848 not in 1846. I notice that a lot of researchers have after 1843 9 for Jane Howel Ivy that is. (I think that this came from researchers readiug the last page of Henry Ivy (Ivey)'s Revolutionary pension file. The files were not filmed in any particualr order and in Henry's Revolutionary pension file is deposition by Jane dated February 1848. There is a separate deposition by Jane filed the same date in which Jane testified in her sister=in-laws Jane O. Collins Howells behalf. She died about July of that year. Forgive me for this excursion into the generation proceeding Jane Mayes Ivy, but you also have questions <smile> about the Collinses and the Howells. Bye for Now, Gail Gail in Missouri: > I have a printout which was sent to me by the gentleman I'm helping research his Mays/Maise/Mayes/Mayes/Maize (and others, I'm sure) lines. I see in the snippet below that you have information on a Jane Mayes Ivey. In this printout I have John "Big John" Maize as a second spouse of Nancy Mayes 1788-1830 (daughter of Sherrod it says but need to read on this). This report indicates that Jane Mayes 1792-1846, sister of Nancy, married Benjamin Ivey 1791-?. I have no other information on Jane. I would like to know if there is any mention of a Dolly anywhere in your transcriptions? I hope to find out if Dolly was a nickname for one of Big John's wives, or another wife. > > I also have a copy of what appears to be a marriage contract (or intention of marriage) for John Maize and Nancey Maize dated Jan 11, 1805. John, William Cooper, and Daniel Clayton are bonded for $1250.00 for the marriage. It is Grainger Co., TN. The witness or man who drew up the contract was Samuel D. _rrick. It looks like Carrick but cannot be absoutely sure. > > As always, still seeking East Tennessee Coffey and Jordan information. > > Sheri

Gail: Thank you for getting back to me on these many questions. I simply never realized how involved this Mayes thing would be, but I also am finding information on my own lines while trying to help others. The worst part is that I cannot have dedicated research time. I have printed out your email and will make additions and corrections to my data concerning your family. I came very close to making a major error in my family linkings (the Mayes) when I assigned the wrong father to Nancy. If you hadn't mentioned Henry was the Jane's father, not Sherrod, who knows what terribly mixed up things I would have done. Thanks for that. BTW, I had started my Collins research in 1998 when I happened to try to help another on the Coffey lines. Then somehow the Coffeys took over until I had a 2001 reunion whereas I was appointed the McCool family historian. At that time I dropped all other research and dedicated 1 full year at about 20 hours a week doing McCools. So by reunion 2002 I had a nice piece of work which cost me $52 each to print out to donate to the 4 oldest of each family represented there. I then began back on the Coffeys and chose to research any Jordan (any spelling) line to all Coffeys to try to determine who Caswell Coffey's wi! ves were and who could be the possible mother of my 3rd ggf, Thomas Nelson Coffey. I became so overwhelmed with grabbing bits and pieces of crumbs of Tennessee Jordans that I was glad to take a break and try to help Tom Mays. Tom's ancestor was Frederick Mays who married Martha Cassandra Jordan. Martha Cassandra was a daughter of Tilman Jordan. Must go. I will be posting questions to the list for the most part in hopes it will continue to trigger questions and queries and corrections for the Mayes researchers. I also keep watch for all my connections. Thanks again, Sheri --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Shar, You said, "If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.." I hear you!! I think the name of the list should be changed to Grainger County Cousins-L <grin> Gail

I found it very interesting to read. Thanks for posting. I guess Green as a first name was quite common. Interesting that it didn't survive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:04 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > Gail and any Cousins... > this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and > I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > > other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > SharR > ========================== > Petition > Hamilton Roach & Others > vs > Green Roach & Others > Filed 8th Oct 1867 > M. Goldman, Clk > > 1 > To the Worshipful J.D. Curl, Chairman of the Couny Court of > Grainger County and the associate Justices Sitting and holding the County > Courts for Said County at Rutledge- > The petition of a number of the legal heirs and Representatives of > the late Green Roach decd and all of whom Reside in Grainger County > Tennessee- > to wit: John Roach, Hamilton Roach, Absolam Roach, Alfeus Owens & his wife > Margaret formerly Roach , C C Nance and his wife Susan formerly Roach, > Nathaniel McElhaney and his wife Mary formerly Roach-all of whom are the > Sons and Daughters of the Said Green Roach, and the husbands of his Said > Daughters- > Filed against his widow Margaret Roach and James H. Peck > administrator of the estate of the Said Green Roach, deceased, and against > Green Roach Son > of Said decedent who has been declared a Lunatic, and against John H > Hammers his Guardian, who Reside in Grainger County Tennessee-And against > Green Arnett who married Nella formerly Roach and whose said wife some > time Since departed this life and whose Said husband is also dead-And > against > the children of Said Nella to wit: Adam Tutor and his wife Susan, ie, > formerly Arnett and whose whareabouts is unknown to petitioners-and > (sic) Coffee and his wife Mary Ann formerly Arnett- > 2 > and Margaret Arnett, and Jacob Arnett, and Lerisa Arnett, and Tabbitha > Arnett, the last named four being minors and who together with the Said > Coffee & wife and the Said Margaret and Jacob Arnett Reside in the State > of Missouri,- > And against Sterling Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown and against > the children of his wife Eliza Ann deceased formerly Roach, to wit:Jessie > C Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown, and Rachael Mallicoat resides in > Grainger County and Sarah J Mallicoat her whareabouts are unknown and the > Said Sarah J has no General Guardian,(and also Roda Mallicoat who is a > minor and of unsound mind and has no General Guardian and who resides in > Grainger County, Eliza Ann who Resides in Jefferson County and against > the children of "Sarah ROACH", Nelson Roach and Nancy J Roach, and against > William Mayse also a Son of Said Sarah after her marriage with Edward > Mayse-the Said Sarah and her husband Mayse are both decd-and Said > children Reside in Grainger County and are minors & have perhaps a > General Guardian,has been assigned to him maybe & the other two have none > 3 > And against James Roach, and David Ray and Wife Anna formerly Roach, who > reside in Missouri- > Petitioners here Show all the names of the Children of Green > Roach > deceased and who either Represent themselves or are themselves > Represented by Grand children of Said Green Roach to wit: Mary, Susan, > Hamilton, > Absolam, Green, Margaret, John, Nella, Elizabeth, James, Anna and Sarah- > Petitioners show that Green Roach died Sometime Since in Grainger > County > at his domicil in the 5th district, leaving a widow Margaret Roach > Surviving him and the above named children or there children Representing > the parent and who are the legal heirs of Said decedent, and whose names > and Residence are Set out in the Caption as full as they are known to > your petitioners-together with husbands and Representatives- > Said decedent died the Rightful owner of considerable personal > property, > and James H Peck has been by your Court duly appointed administrator of > his estate, which is ample and fully Sufficient to pay all unpaid > indebtness > against > 4 > the estate of Said decedent & any costs that may accrue in this case > Decedent also died the Rightful owner of about 302 acres of land, Situate > in Grainger County 5th district adjoining the land of Robt Loyal James > James John A Hamers and others And it is further Shown that out of Said > land his Said Widow has been assigned dower by your Court And it is > further > Shown-that after the Assignment of dower which Consists of about 100 > acres-there is a remainder of about 202 acres that is owned and held by > your petitioners and the defendants named in the Caption as tenants in > Common-And it is Shown to the Court, that Said 202 acres Can be divided > into 12 lots or Shares of equal Value, it is true the lots will be Small > but your > petitioners show that a number of the legatees are feared Covert, and > desire that there Shares be assigned in the land of which they are the > Rightful owners-and So do all your petitioners believe land the best > property and avow the fact that they wish to Remain in Tennessee about > whare Raised > 5 > The pr__isses considered the prayer of petitioners is that the > parties > named in the Caption as defendants be made Such by due process and > _________ as to the resident ones and that due notice be given the > nonresident and unknown defendants by publication in a news paper to > afford ample time for notice to all the defendants that this cause be set > for hearing at the next Dec term of this Court- > And it is further prayed that on the hearing that competent > commissioners be appointed to lay off and assign to each Son and daughter > of the Said > deceased or to the children of the deceased ones who represent the > parents there share of the Said lands So held by them as tenants in > Common and that the Same be set out in Severalty and that they have full > power to > make them all equal in Value by the more valuable lots paying the > difference > to the > lesser and that a lien be declared upon the lots that pay to others until > the equality money be fully paid- > And it is further prayed that a Guardian ad litum be assigned to > Represent the minor defendants > 6 > And if deemed necessary by your worships in the mean time that a jury of > inquisition of Lunacy be had as to Roda Mallicoat and that a Regular > Guardian be assinged her-And it is further prayed that on final hearing > among others that if the adm has funds or assetts sufficient in his hands > belonging to the Said heirs entitled to these Shares of land that he pay > the Costs and expences of this partition and that he have a Credit pro > rata for the amount paid for each heir on his settlement as > administrator- > And if in anything petitioners are ___ to ______ there interest and > Rights they pray for Such other Relief as they may be entitled to > agreeable to the laws of the land- > > A recapitulation-The lands ask to be partitioned and assigned in > Severalty are those not included in the widows dower-They do not now seek > to disturb the dower in any way-but those now ocuupied by the heirs as > tenants in common- > Explanation the object desire is to have the land allotted in twelve > equal Shares some to children in there own Right and the others to grand > children representing the parent as tenants in common > 7 > Recapitulation of the Representing Shares to wit: The children of > Elizabeth deceased who married Sterling Mallicoat-The children of Nella > Roach decd who married Green Arnett-The children of Sarah Roach decd who > married > Edward Mayse deceased-Anna Roach who married David Ray-and James > Roach-Green Roach, John Roach, Mary Roach who married Nathaniel > McElhaney-Susan Roach who married C.C. Nance Margaret who married Alfeus > Owens, Absolam Roach and Hamilton Roach > > P M Senter Atty for Petitioners > > State of Tennessee) Personally Came > Grainger County ) before me Hamilton Roach > and made oath in due form of law that the facts Stated in the foregoing > Petition of his own knowledge are true and those stated on information he > believes to be true > ) his > Sworn to and Subscribed)Hamilton X Roach > before me Oct 8th, 1867) mark > > M Goldman Clerk > ============================================================== > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Gail and All, I did have Julia Caroline MAYES-ROACH's death date, as 1917, the index does not give the day..she was 85, its cert# 513 Hamilton ROACH either died before 1912 or after 1925 death index records..some of them fell in between...as some death records are from 1909-12...then they stopped....until abt 1914 sometime? does anyone have access to 1900 census ? I can look later on Ancestry.. Susan Cabbage b: 1900 who would be abt 103 this year...remembered Hamilton ROACH and family as he was the brother of her Grandfather Absolum ROACH d: 1917 also + Kate YATES SharR

Gail, no... I don't think I do, I don't think anyone does, there are some old unreadable tombstones on the old Green ROACH land...that might be theirs..but could be Green or Margarets also... all I have noted, is they died after 1880 census...and I don't think they were still around in 1900 census, but not sure about that. If I find anything I'll let ya 'll know SharR <<< Do you have DODs for Hamilton and Julia Caroline Roach?>>>

Clarka was the sister of Robert OWENS + Nancy MAYES... Clarka OWENS md: 1844 Grainger Co TN. John ROACH Jr....s/o Green ROACH + Margaret MCDANIEL ; John Jr. bro of Hamilton ROACH + Julia Caroline MAYES another bro of Clarka's , Alpheus OWENS Jr. md: Margaret ROACH youngest sister of John Jr....Margaret also child of Green ROACH If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.. SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > Dear Shar, > > You said > > ".. also the Robert OWENS + Nancy MAYES Owens listed in Edward's > Estate...was the bro of Clarka OWENS who md: John ROACH Jr.( GG-Grandparents > of my husband) > > I do know who Clarka and John were..I noticed them on the 1860 census when I > was looking for Hamilton and Julia Caroline. This is all so interesting. I > did vaguely know that there were connections between the Mayes and Roach > families. Also I have been reading msgs on this list from various Roach > researchers over the years <smile> It is nice to talk to one of you and > have the opportunity to share some information. > > You said: > > "they are all buried in Greene Co. MO except Hamilton ROACH & Julia C. > MAYES-ROACH who stayed and died in Grainger.." > > Do you have DODs for Hamilton and Julia Caroline Roach? > > Gail > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Thank you.. Yes, that was a middle name though...probably because he was John Green Roach...but there were far too many John's already in the family.. SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conni Braun" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > I found it very interesting to read. Thanks for posting. I guess Green as > a first name was quite common. Interesting that it didn't survive. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:04 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > > > > Gail and any Cousins... > > this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > > Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and > > I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > > > > other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > > I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > > SharR > > ========================== > > Petition > > Hamilton Roach & Others > > vs > > Green Roach & Others > > Filed 8th Oct 1867 > > M. Goldman, Clk > > > > 1 > > To the Worshipful J.D. Curl, Chairman of the Couny Court of > > Grainger County and the associate Justices Sitting and holding the County > > Courts for Said County at Rutledge- > > The petition of a number of the legal heirs and Representatives > of > > the late Green Roach decd and all of whom Reside in Grainger County > > Tennessee- > > to wit: John Roach, Hamilton Roach, Absolam Roach, Alfeus Owens & his > wife > > Margaret formerly Roach , C C Nance and his wife Susan formerly Roach, > > Nathaniel McElhaney and his wife Mary formerly Roach-all of whom are the > > Sons and Daughters of the Said Green Roach, and the husbands of his Said > > Daughters- > > Filed against his widow Margaret Roach and James H. Peck > > administrator of the estate of the Said Green Roach, deceased, and against > > Green Roach Son > > of Said decedent who has been declared a Lunatic, and against John H > > Hammers his Guardian, who Reside in Grainger County Tennessee-And against > > Green Arnett who married Nella formerly Roach and whose said wife some > > time Since departed this life and whose Said husband is also dead-And > > against > > the children of Said Nella to wit: Adam Tutor and his wife Susan, ie, > > formerly Arnett and whose whareabouts is unknown to petitioners-and > > (sic) Coffee and his wife Mary Ann formerly Arnett- > > 2 > > and Margaret Arnett, and Jacob Arnett, and Lerisa Arnett, and Tabbitha > > Arnett, the last named four being minors and who together with the Said > > Coffee & wife and the Said Margaret and Jacob Arnett Reside in the State > > of Missouri,- > > And against Sterling Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown and against > > the children of his wife Eliza Ann deceased formerly Roach, to wit:Jessie > > C Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown, and Rachael Mallicoat resides > in > > Grainger County and Sarah J Mallicoat her whareabouts are unknown and the > > Said Sarah J has no General Guardian,(and also Roda Mallicoat who is a > > minor and of unsound mind and has no General Guardian and who resides in > > Grainger County, Eliza Ann who Resides in Jefferson County and against > > the children of "Sarah ROACH", Nelson Roach and Nancy J Roach, and > against > > William Mayse also a Son of Said Sarah after her marriage with Edward > > Mayse-the Said Sarah and her husband Mayse are both decd-and Said > > children Reside in Grainger County and are minors & have perhaps a > > General Guardian,has been assigned to him maybe & the other two have none > > 3 > > And against James Roach, and David Ray and Wife Anna formerly Roach, who > > reside in Missouri- > > Petitioners here Show all the names of the Children of > Green > > Roach > > deceased and who either Represent themselves or are themselves > > Represented by Grand children of Said Green Roach to wit: Mary, Susan, > > Hamilton, > > Absolam, Green, Margaret, John, Nella, Elizabeth, James, Anna and Sarah- > > Petitioners show that Green Roach died Sometime Since in Grainger > > County > > at his domicil in the 5th district, leaving a widow Margaret Roach > > Surviving him and the above named children or there children Representing > > the parent and who are the legal heirs of Said decedent, and whose names > > and Residence are Set out in the Caption as full as they are known to > > your petitioners-together with husbands and Representatives- > > Said decedent died the Rightful owner of considerable personal > > property, > > and James H Peck has been by your Court duly appointed administrator of > > his estate, which is ample and fully Sufficient to pay all unpaid > > indebtness > > against > > 4 > > the estate of Said decedent & any costs that may accrue in this case > > Decedent also died the Rightful owner of about 302 acres of land, Situate > > in Grainger County 5th district adjoining the land of Robt Loyal James > > James John A Hamers and others And it is further Shown that out of Said > > land his Said Widow has been assigned dower by your Court And it is > > further > > Shown-that after the Assignment of dower which Consists of about 100 > > acres-there is a remainder of about 202 acres that is owned and held by > > your petitioners and the defendants named in the Caption as tenants in > > Common-And it is Shown to the Court, that Said 202 acres Can be divided > > into 12 lots or Shares of equal Value, it is true the lots will be Small > > but your > > petitioners show that a number of the legatees are feared Covert, and > > desire that there Shares be assigned in the land of which they are the > > Rightful owners-and So do all your petitioners believe land the best > > property and avow the fact that they wish to Remain in Tennessee about > > whare Raised > > 5 > > The pr__isses considered the prayer of petitioners is that the > > parties > > named in the Caption as defendants be made Such by due process and > > _________ as to the resident ones and that due notice be given the > > nonresident and unknown defendants by publication in a news paper to > > afford ample time for notice to all the defendants that this cause be set > > for hearing at the next Dec term of this Court- > > And it is further prayed that on the hearing that competent > > commissioners be appointed to lay off and assign to each Son and daughter > > of the Said > > deceased or to the children of the deceased ones who represent the > > parents there share of the Said lands So held by them as tenants in > > Common and that the Same be set out in Severalty and that they have full > > power to > > make them all equal in Value by the more valuable lots paying the > > difference > > to the > > lesser and that a lien be declared upon the lots that pay to others until > > the equality money be fully paid- > > And it is further prayed that a Guardian ad litum be assigned to > > Represent the minor defendants > > 6 > > And if deemed necessary by your worships in the mean time that a jury of > > inquisition of Lunacy be had as to Roda Mallicoat and that a Regular > > Guardian be assinged her-And it is further prayed that on final hearing > > among others that if the adm has funds or assetts sufficient in his hands > > belonging to the Said heirs entitled to these Shares of land that he pay > > the Costs and expences of this partition and that he have a Credit pro > > rata for the amount paid for each heir on his settlement as > > administrator- > > And if in anything petitioners are ___ to ______ there interest and > > Rights they pray for Such other Relief as they may be entitled to > > agreeable to the laws of the land- > > > > A recapitulation-The lands ask to be partitioned and assigned in > > Severalty are those not included in the widows dower-They do not now seek > > to disturb the dower in any way-but those now ocuupied by the heirs as > > tenants in common- > > Explanation the object desire is to have the land allotted in twelve > > equal Shares some to children in there own Right and the others to grand > > children representing the parent as tenants in common > > 7 > > Recapitulation of the Representing Shares to wit: The children of > > Elizabeth deceased who married Sterling Mallicoat-The children of Nella > > Roach decd who married Green Arnett-The children of Sarah Roach decd who > > married > > Edward Mayse deceased-Anna Roach who married David Ray-and James > > Roach-Green Roach, John Roach, Mary Roach who married Nathaniel > > McElhaney-Susan Roach who married C.C. Nance Margaret who married Alfeus > > Owens, Absolam Roach and Hamilton Roach > > > > P M Senter Atty for Petitioners > > > > State of Tennessee) Personally Came > > Grainger County ) before me Hamilton Roach > > and made oath in due form of law that the facts Stated in the foregoing > > Petition of his own knowledge are true and those stated on information he > > believes to be true > > ) his > > Sworn to and Subscribed)Hamilton X Roach > > before me Oct 8th, 1867) mark > > > > M Goldman Clerk > > ============================================================== > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Dear Shar, You said ".. also the Robert OWENS + Nancy MAYES Owens listed in Edward's Estate...was the bro of Clarka OWENS who md: John ROACH Jr.( GG-Grandparents of my husband) I do know who Clarka and John were..I noticed them on the 1860 census when I was looking for Hamilton and Julia Caroline. This is all so interesting. I did vaguely know that there were connections between the Mayes and Roach families. Also I have been reading msgs on this list from various Roach researchers over the years <smile> It is nice to talk to one of you and have the opportunity to share some information. You said: "they are all buried in Greene Co. MO except Hamilton ROACH & Julia C. MAYES-ROACH who stayed and died in Grainger.." Do you have DODs for Hamilton and Julia Caroline Roach? Gail

Gail and any Cousins... this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two SharR ========================== Petition Hamilton Roach & Others vs Green Roach & Others Filed 8th Oct 1867 M. Goldman, Clk 1 To the Worshipful J.D. Curl, Chairman of the Couny Court of Grainger County and the associate Justices Sitting and holding the County Courts for Said County at Rutledge- The petition of a number of the legal heirs and Representatives of the late Green Roach decd and all of whom Reside in Grainger County Tennessee- to wit: John Roach, Hamilton Roach, Absolam Roach, Alfeus Owens & his wife Margaret formerly Roach , C C Nance and his wife Susan formerly Roach, Nathaniel McElhaney and his wife Mary formerly Roach-all of whom are the Sons and Daughters of the Said Green Roach, and the husbands of his Said Daughters- Filed against his widow Margaret Roach and James H. Peck administrator of the estate of the Said Green Roach, deceased, and against Green Roach Son of Said decedent who has been declared a Lunatic, and against John H Hammers his Guardian, who Reside in Grainger County Tennessee-And against Green Arnett who married Nella formerly Roach and whose said wife some time Since departed this life and whose Said husband is also dead-And against the children of Said Nella to wit: Adam Tutor and his wife Susan, ie, formerly Arnett and whose whareabouts is unknown to petitioners-and (sic) Coffee and his wife Mary Ann formerly Arnett- 2 and Margaret Arnett, and Jacob Arnett, and Lerisa Arnett, and Tabbitha Arnett, the last named four being minors and who together with the Said Coffee & wife and the Said Margaret and Jacob Arnett Reside in the State of Missouri,- And against Sterling Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown and against the children of his wife Eliza Ann deceased formerly Roach, to wit:Jessie C Mallicoat whose whareabouts is unknown, and Rachael Mallicoat resides in Grainger County and Sarah J Mallicoat her whareabouts are unknown and the Said Sarah J has no General Guardian,(and also Roda Mallicoat who is a minor and of unsound mind and has no General Guardian and who resides in Grainger County, Eliza Ann who Resides in Jefferson County and against the children of "Sarah ROACH", Nelson Roach and Nancy J Roach, and against William Mayse also a Son of Said Sarah after her marriage with Edward Mayse-the Said Sarah and her husband Mayse are both decd-and Said children Reside in Grainger County and are minors & have perhaps a General Guardian,has been assigned to him maybe & the other two have none 3 And against James Roach, and David Ray and Wife Anna formerly Roach, who reside in Missouri- Petitioners here Show all the names of the Children of Green Roach deceased and who either Represent themselves or are themselves Represented by Grand children of Said Green Roach to wit: Mary, Susan, Hamilton, Absolam, Green, Margaret, John, Nella, Elizabeth, James, Anna and Sarah- Petitioners show that Green Roach died Sometime Since in Grainger County at his domicil in the 5th district, leaving a widow Margaret Roach Surviving him and the above named children or there children Representing the parent and who are the legal heirs of Said decedent, and whose names and Residence are Set out in the Caption as full as they are known to your petitioners-together with husbands and Representatives- Said decedent died the Rightful owner of considerable personal property, and James H Peck has been by your Court duly appointed administrator of his estate, which is ample and fully Sufficient to pay all unpaid indebtness against 4 the estate of Said decedent & any costs that may accrue in this case Decedent also died the Rightful owner of about 302 acres of land, Situate in Grainger County 5th district adjoining the land of Robt Loyal James James John A Hamers and others And it is further Shown that out of Said land his Said Widow has been assigned dower by your Court And it is further Shown-that after the Assignment of dower which Consists of about 100 acres-there is a remainder of about 202 acres that is owned and held by your petitioners and the defendants named in the Caption as tenants in Common-And it is Shown to the Court, that Said 202 acres Can be divided into 12 lots or Shares of equal Value, it is true the lots will be Small but your petitioners show that a number of the legatees are feared Covert, and desire that there Shares be assigned in the land of which they are the Rightful owners-and So do all your petitioners believe land the best property and avow the fact that they wish to Remain in Tennessee about whare Raised 5 The pr__isses considered the prayer of petitioners is that the parties named in the Caption as defendants be made Such by due process and _________ as to the resident ones and that due notice be given the nonresident and unknown defendants by publication in a news paper to afford ample time for notice to all the defendants that this cause be set for hearing at the next Dec term of this Court- And it is further prayed that on the hearing that competent commissioners be appointed to lay off and assign to each Son and daughter of the Said deceased or to the children of the deceased ones who represent the parents there share of the Said lands So held by them as tenants in Common and that the Same be set out in Severalty and that they have full power to make them all equal in Value by the more valuable lots paying the difference to the lesser and that a lien be declared upon the lots that pay to others until the equality money be fully paid- And it is further prayed that a Guardian ad litum be assigned to Represent the minor defendants 6 And if deemed necessary by your worships in the mean time that a jury of inquisition of Lunacy be had as to Roda Mallicoat and that a Regular Guardian be assinged her-And it is further prayed that on final hearing among others that if the adm has funds or assetts sufficient in his hands belonging to the Said heirs entitled to these Shares of land that he pay the Costs and expences of this partition and that he have a Credit pro rata for the amount paid for each heir on his settlement as administrator- And if in anything petitioners are ___ to ______ there interest and Rights they pray for Such other Relief as they may be entitled to agreeable to the laws of the land- A recapitulation-The lands ask to be partitioned and assigned in Severalty are those not included in the widows dower-They do not now seek to disturb the dower in any way-but those now ocuupied by the heirs as tenants in common- Explanation the object desire is to have the land allotted in twelve equal Shares some to children in there own Right and the others to grand children representing the parent as tenants in common 7 Recapitulation of the Representing Shares to wit: The children of Elizabeth deceased who married Sterling Mallicoat-The children of Nella Roach decd who married Green Arnett-The children of Sarah Roach decd who married Edward Mayse deceased-Anna Roach who married David Ray-and James Roach-Green Roach, John Roach, Mary Roach who married Nathaniel McElhaney-Susan Roach who married C.C. Nance Margaret who married Alfeus Owens, Absolam Roach and Hamilton Roach P M Senter Atty for Petitioners State of Tennessee) Personally Came Grainger County ) before me Hamilton Roach and made oath in due form of law that the facts Stated in the foregoing Petition of his own knowledge are true and those stated on information he believes to be true ) his Sworn to and Subscribed)Hamilton X Roach before me Oct 8th, 1867) mark M Goldman Clerk ==============================================================

Gail... that mesage was mine, Jo Anne just answered it....she and my husabnds both descend from that same Owens Family... Robert and Nancy MAYES-OWENS are both buried in Dodson Cemetery, Greene Co. MO. OWENS : Buried in Dodson Cemetery,Greene Co.Missouri----were born or raised in Grainger Co.TN. Tombstone Inscriptions: Robert Owens: b: 21 Sep 1827-----d: 16 Oct 1899 Nancy (Mayes) Owens b: 28 Jun 1826----d:22 May 1899 nearest stones: KINDER-DAWSON-McDANIEL-RUSSELL-CLARK-KINSER Several of their children are also buried there. SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Owens and Mayes > Dear Jo Anne, > > Youi seem to have the exact birth and death date for Robert Owens. Do you > have a DOD for Nancy?? Do you know where Robert and Nancy are buried?? I > am working on a family group sheet for the children of Edward Mayes to post > to the list.. I would really appreciate any further information. > > Gail in MO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jo Anne Turner <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 19:45 > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Owens and Mayes > > > > <<...also the Robert OWENS+Nancey MAYES Owens listed in Edwards > estate...was > > the bro of Clarka OWENS who married John ROACH Jr( GG-grandparents of my > > husband)>>>>>> > > > > If this Robert Owens was born on 9-21-1827 and died 10-16-1899 and > married > > Nancey Mayes,, could you please contact me? > > JoAnne Turner > > digging for Haley, Goin, Burk > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Jo Anne, Youi seem to have the exact birth and death date for Robert Owens. Do you have a DOD for Nancy?? Do you know where Robert and Nancy are buried?? I am working on a family group sheet for the children of Edward Mayes to post to the list.. I would really appreciate any further information. Gail in MO ----- Original Message ----- From: Jo Anne Turner <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 19:45 Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Owens and Mayes > <<...also the Robert OWENS+Nancey MAYES Owens listed in Edwards estate...was > the bro of Clarka OWENS who married John ROACH Jr( GG-grandparents of my > husband)>>>>>> > > If this Robert Owens was born on 9-21-1827 and died 10-16-1899 and married > Nancey Mayes,, could you please contact me? > JoAnne Turner > digging for Haley, Goin, Burk > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Good Evening, List: Questions I have on some Mayes in order to clarify my own thoughts are: A James Mayes married Jane Howell (Thanks Gail). This Jane Howell's parents were Henry Howell and Jane O. Collins. Would anyone know who James Mayes parent(s) were, and does anyone know which line of Collins does Jane O. come from? Has anyone determined Jane Howell's date of birth? She was older than her second husband, Ruben Groves, Jr. I have also seen the Ruben Groves, Sr and Jr noted as Graves. Is it Groves or Graves? Thanks for any help. Sheri Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more