Thank You Mary....I like the way they played her name back and forth from census to census...some people think she is two different women, married to two different Hamilton ROACH's but not so..... there was only one after 1850 Census,(as far as I know anyway) the other one was son of Drury ROACH , and I don't know where he went to..Hamilton s/o Green ROACH is the one that md: Julia Caroline MAYES SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Bateman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Julia Caroline / Caroline J. Roach > Here is the 1910 TN Grainger Co Dist 1 (old Dist 5) ED 53 > > Caroline is living with a son: > > John W. Roach head 39 M 16 TN > Mary M wife 23 M 16 8 6 TN (her age doesn't seem right) > Robert H. son 12 S TN > Treecy E. dau 10 S TN > Letha M. dau 6 S TN > Alice E. dau 4 S TN > Marcus C. son 3 S TN > Martha H. dau 4/12 (age hard to read) S TN > Caroline J. Mother 77 WD 10 4 TN > William brother 46 D TN > > I hope this helps you although this is not my family. All the other censuses > they lived in Dist 5 and so it was easy to find them in the 1910 census on > ancestry.com . > > Mary in CA > researching Jeremiah Wyrick m. 1838 Anna Coffman > ********************************* > > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > > > > Thank You Tina, > > I looked at ancestry but they don't have index for 1900 and some other > > critical ones like 1870...I hope they will index them all someday > > > > ANYWAY, Hamilton ROACH must have died before there were any death records > > for Grainger Co. TN. or TN period, > > so possibly between 1900-1910.....Julia Caroline MAYES-ROACH died 1917, > so > > she could be alone on census or more likely living with a child ? > > > > Thanks, > > SharR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:16 AM > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > > > > > > > Hey there, > > > 1860 Grainger Co.TN > > > Hamilton Roach 30 > > > Caroline 28 > > > Luther 6 > > > Louisa 4 > > > Henry 1 > > > > > > next door was > > > Green Roach 69 > > > Margaret 66 > > > Green 30 > > > Absolem 28 > > > Nelson 14 > > > > > > 1870 Grainger Co.TN > > > M.Roach 76 > > > Green 30 > > > > > > next door > > > W.Roach 38 > > > Carline 37 > > > L. 16-male > > > M.D. 12-female > > > Henry 10 > > > William 8 > > > James 3 > > > W. 3/12-male > > > > > > 1880 Grainger Co.TN > > > Hamilton Roach 49 > > > Julia C. 47 > > > James 13 > > > Wesley 11 > > > John W. 8 > > > General G. 4 > > > > > > Absolem Roach 47 > > > Catherine 38 > > > Cordelia 17 > > > James F. 16 > > > Alice A. 14 > > > Susan M. 11 > > > Drury 10 > > > Nelson 7 > > > Auther 3 > > > Samuel 2 > > > Margaret 85 > > > > > > 1900 Grainger Co.TN > > > Hamilton Roach 68-married 49 yrs.-born Aug.1831 > > > Julia C. 67-born Nov.1832-10 kids 4 living > > > William 39-born Mar.1861-son > > > Belle J. 12-born June 1887-daughter > > > > > > Hamilton or Julia weren't listed in the 1910........ > > > > > > Tina Lephew Cooke > > > Union Co.TN > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Hi, have a book of Marr indexs for 1820-29 from MM&DS 1.the only marr. I see is: HOLT, John to DENSON, Catherine 29 Jan 1829 2.Various Records...has a HOLT.. John,(p.42) 1848 1st.School Dist 3 children John (p. 43) same 2nd Dist...1 child Sarah (p.43) same 1-child John Jr., (p.62) 1830 Voters List Preston (p.54) same Dist. 10...doesn't show any# SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "CLIFF SIMPSON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] HOLT FAMILY > Does anyone have anything about the HOLTS in Grainger Co. Marriages, > deaths, places they lived etc. Some names might be Seth, Preston, > Sherman,David , Bassie, John, William, Ben, Porter, Sterling, Pleasant. > Any and all info appreciated. > Thanks, Pat > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Folks - this is one story. I had this message from someone I wrote because I knew one person who had a story to tell about one incident regrding the records. Perhaps there is someone out there who would know how to get word to this family that the records are being cleaned, filmed and shelved. Unfortunately, I don't have a date of when this incident happened but probably not more than 20 years ago. "I do not remember his name, but we went to his house and he had a book of court records that his father or grandfather had been a Sheriff at the time that the book was logged. You went by the old jail and crossed the creek and went up around a curve and his house was on the left. He was moving to Fla. The next time we went there to see him, he had moved. He worked on the records for a while he said, before he got upset over people not wanting to preserve them. I have a name: Ray Greenlee--Rt. 3, Box 1--Rutledge Tn. Not sure if it is his name or not. Do not know why I have this name. Check on that for me. It is connected to our Shelton history. The book had court records in it and it was the year we thought that James was 17. There was a lot of records about a William Shelton who stayed in trouble all the time. For lewdness, drunkenness, and fighting in the book. He was wild and sounded like a lot of trouble. I think he had some other books also. He said if they ever done anything to save all the info, he would return the books. He also told me that they were moving to Fla. and if I wanted anymore info to contact him. He was referred to me by the librarian. He was really into family history and fighting with everyone to preserve the records. He was upset because the Mormon's had offered to come in and help and the committee said no. He was furious at the people for letting the records get in the shape they were in. He would get so upset when he talked about it that I worried about him. He was really a good man and I think that he did not want to see all the records eaten by bugs. He really preserved what he had as they were in excellent condition compared to what I saw at the school. Actually he saved a good part of history. If they are trying to salvage the mess they made of everything by being stubborn, then he should be contacted and the records returned. Let me know what you find out." When I got this, I looked in the "History of Tennessee" written in 1887 and found this listing. Sheriffs- Martin Ashburn, 1796-1800; Robert Young, 1800-04; John Lea, 1804-06; James Conn, 1808-12; Charles McAnally,1812-21; Samuel Bunch, 1821-86; Robert Lloyd, 1836-38; Elisha Thomason, 1838-42; Robert Lloyd, 1842-44; A. P. Green, 1844-46; Elisha Thom­ason, 1846-48; L. M. Ellis, 1848-54; John Kinder, 1854-56; Anderson Donaldson, 1856-58; John F. Noe, 1858-68; Chesley Morgan, 1868-72; C. J. Morgan, 1872-74; S. J. Jones, 1874-76; C. J. Morgan, 1876-78; A. L. Mauly, 1878-80; Jerry Jarnagin, 1880-84; S. P. Greenlee, 1884-. Also there was a George M. Greenlee who was a trustee 1876-78. sue --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 02/25/2003

Milly, Absolum ROACH b: 27 Aug 1831 md: Catherine "Kate" YATES -17 Dec 1861 Grainger Co TN. I'm not sure if I know who Kate belonged to...they are buried in Grainger Co. SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "milly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > I agree that Grainger seems to be one big happy family. My families in > Grainger are Chesher and Yates. I see names my Dad (born and raised in > Grainger Co.) talked about endlessly. Some I'm sure are related by mg - > Roach, Michell and vineyard. If anyone sees A Chesher or Yates in their > trees, would they please contact me? > Thanks for reading and any reply I might get > Milly [email protected] > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Greer, Nancy Ms <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:34 AM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > Dear Possible, Probable and Potential Cuzzins, > > I have at LEAST 3 families who intermarried: my GREERs, MYNATTs & > VINEYARDs. > > I've seen others, but perhaps a bit out of my direct lines. Explanation? > > Perhaps it was just too much trouble to travel over the mountain...HA! > > Nancy in Alexandria, Virginia USA > > > > ========================== > > "If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.." > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Conni, I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if it is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future researchers are not penalized. Duane Mills >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since I >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked away >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > >Conni > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > > >> SharR, >> >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents out >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. >> >> Duane Mills >> >> >Gail and any Cousins... >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, >> > >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > > >SharR

Tina, Your a JEWEL,.... Thank You...well that does pin Hamilton ROACH's death down to between 1900-1910...about as close as we can get... SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > Hey there, > 1910 Grainger Co.TN > John W. Roach 39 -married 16 yrs. > Mary M. 23-8 kids 6 living > Robert H. 12 > Trucy E. 10 > Letha M. 6 > Alice E. 4 > Marcus C. 3 > Martha H. 4/12 > Calroline J. 77-mother-widow-10 kids 4 living > William 46-brother-divorced > > I had to look through the entire Roach surname but I found it. > They never listed her as a seperate Roach,like they did in the other > census,so if they have the same surname as the head of the household,you > just have to look at them,until you find it......I hadn't thought about > that............. > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN

Bobby: Is this book available for purchase? I'm sure there are some of us newbies who might want to add this book to our collection. If not, could you please provide name of publisher to see if we can obtain a copy? Does anyone know Edythe Rucker? Would she give permission to transcribe this book and put on internet for others? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] MITCHELL: Grainger County Marriages 1796--1837 > MITCHELL Marriages in Grainger Co, TN 1796--1837: > (33) Example page number in Grainger County Marriage Book by Edythe Rucker > WHITLEY > > Please note that when several pages numbers are listed by one name it does > not necessarily mean they were married that many times; some are when they > were bondsman or Minister of Gospel who performed wedding........ > > MITCHEL, Anny (1) > Aquilla (33) > Brick (27) > Greenberry (16) > John (75) > Jubel (67) > Matilda (86) > Polly (16) > Robert (59), (84) > > MITCHELL, Amy (62) > Andrew J. (82), (86) > Andrew P. (85) > Aquilla (62) > Benjamin (45), (47) > Berry (26) > Betsey (74) > Cily (22) > Diedima (54) > Elijah (24), (28), (33), (54), (75) > Elijah, Jr. (75) > Elizabeth (2) > Green (67) > Greenberry (15) > Isaac (73), (75) > James (12) > James D. (86), (88) > John (75), (86) > Mary (61) > Merry (29) > Nancy (45) > Nelly (74) > Preston (73) > Rhoda (39) > Robert (57), (80), (86) > Robt. (56), (65) > Ruth (54) > Serena (86) > Susanna (87) > William (29), (47), (54), (62), (76) > > I hope this is of some help to someone. > Bobby G. Carwile > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Here are the marriages for Grainger Co that I found listed in my marriage cd for Aquilla, Isaac and William MITCHELL. Did not find Tabitha. Aquilla MITCHEL to Elizabeth FURGERSON May 23, 1815 Aquilla MITCHELL to Nancy HARRIS July 29, 1827 Aquilla MITCHELL, Jr. to Neoma MITCHELL June 7, 1838 Isaac MITCHELL to Catherine H. KIRKHAM Nov 22, 1831 Isaac MITCHELL to Sarah NANCE March 14, 1850 William MITCHELL to Mary BUNCH Jan 24, 1813 William MITCHELL to Ruth MITCHELL Aug 24, 1824 William M. MITHCELL to Louisa RAY April 18, 1840 Does any one know who the parents are for James R. MITCHELL who married Margaret E. CATES Aug 23, 1848 Grainger Co, TN? Margaret later married Calvin COTNER May 20, 1851 Grainger Co, TN. Vicki

I can tell you in the late 1960s before we became interested in genealogy, on weekend drives my husband and I visited abandoned buildings including school houses in North Dakota and in the furnaces and school stoves were found remenents of school documents that had been burned. No one had thought to save any of those for future generations. At least these people you are speaking of left photocopies. Buildings had been left exactly as they had been vacated...desks still in place, books in book shelves covered in mold and this was true of a church. It still had the moldy books in the pews and the organ that was gathering mold. I agree any items such as these should be given to state libraries and/or museums for retention if they are in the conditon to be done so. The items we saw were past this stage. Earline in Oregon Member of Columbia Gorge Genealogical Society c/o The Dalles/Wasco County Public Library 722 Court Street The Dalles, Oregon 97058 http://community.oregonlive.com/cc/genealogy Browse http://historysavers.com/orwasco/ recently updated information regarding Wasco County - Links are at the bottom of page http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl "Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds you plant." Robert Louis Stevenson _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hey there, 1860 Grainger Co.TN Hamilton Roach 30 Caroline 28 Luther 6 Louisa 4 Henry 1 next door was Green Roach 69 Margaret 66 Green 30 Absolem 28 Nelson 14 1870 Grainger Co.TN M.Roach 76 Green 30 next door W.Roach 38 Carline 37 L. 16-male M.D. 12-female Henry 10 William 8 James 3 W. 3/12-male 1880 Grainger Co.TN Hamilton Roach 49 Julia C. 47 James 13 Wesley 11 John W. 8 General G. 4 Absolem Roach 47 Catherine 38 Cordelia 17 James F. 16 Alice A. 14 Susan M. 11 Drury 10 Nelson 7 Auther 3 Samuel 2 Margaret 85 1900 Grainger Co.TN Hamilton Roach 68-married 49 yrs.-born Aug.1831 Julia C. 67-born Nov.1832-10 kids 4 living William 39-born Mar.1861-son Belle J. 12-born June 1887-daughter Hamilton or Julia weren't listed in the 1910........ Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > Gail, > no... I don't think I do, I don't think anyone does, there are some old > unreadable tombstones on the old Green ROACH land...that might be > theirs..but could be Green or Margarets > also... > all I have noted, is they died after 1880 census...and I don't think they > were still around in 1900 census, but not sure about that. If I find > anything I'll let ya 'll know > SharR > > <<< Do you have DODs for Hamilton and Julia Caroline Roach?>>> > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Thank You Tina, I looked at ancestry but they don't have index for 1900 and some other critical ones like 1870...I hope they will index them all someday ANYWAY, Hamilton ROACH must have died before there were any death records for Grainger Co. TN. or TN period, so possibly between 1900-1910.....Julia Caroline MAYES-ROACH died 1917, so she could be alone on census or more likely living with a child ? Thanks, SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > Hey there, > 1860 Grainger Co.TN > Hamilton Roach 30 > Caroline 28 > Luther 6 > Louisa 4 > Henry 1 > > next door was > Green Roach 69 > Margaret 66 > Green 30 > Absolem 28 > Nelson 14 > > 1870 Grainger Co.TN > M.Roach 76 > Green 30 > > next door > W.Roach 38 > Carline 37 > L. 16-male > M.D. 12-female > Henry 10 > William 8 > James 3 > W. 3/12-male > > 1880 Grainger Co.TN > Hamilton Roach 49 > Julia C. 47 > James 13 > Wesley 11 > John W. 8 > General G. 4 > > Absolem Roach 47 > Catherine 38 > Cordelia 17 > James F. 16 > Alice A. 14 > Susan M. 11 > Drury 10 > Nelson 7 > Auther 3 > Samuel 2 > Margaret 85 > > 1900 Grainger Co.TN > Hamilton Roach 68-married 49 yrs.-born Aug.1831 > Julia C. 67-born Nov.1832-10 kids 4 living > William 39-born Mar.1861-son > Belle J. 12-born June 1887-daughter > > Hamilton or Julia weren't listed in the 1910........ > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Mayes and Roach, Owens etc. > > > > Gail, > > no... I don't think I do, I don't think anyone does, there are some old > > unreadable tombstones on the old Green ROACH land...that might be > > theirs..but could be Green or Margarets > > also... > > all I have noted, is they died after 1880 census...and I don't think they > > were still around in 1900 census, but not sure about that. If I find > > anything I'll let ya 'll know > > SharR > > > > <<< Do you have DODs for Hamilton and Julia Caroline Roach?>>> > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

MITCHELL Marriages in Grainger Co, TN 1796--1837: (33) Example page number in Grainger County Marriage Book by Edythe Rucker WHITLEY Please note that when several pages numbers are listed by one name it does not necessarily mean they were married that many times; some are when they were bondsman or Minister of Gospel who performed wedding........ MITCHEL, Anny (1) Aquilla (33) Brick (27) Greenberry (16) John (75) Jubel (67) Matilda (86) Polly (16) Robert (59), (84) MITCHELL, Amy (62) Andrew J. (82), (86) Andrew P. (85) Aquilla (62) Benjamin (45), (47) Berry (26) Betsey (74) Cily (22) Diedima (54) Elijah (24), (28), (33), (54), (75) Elijah, Jr. (75) Elizabeth (2) Green (67) Greenberry (15) Isaac (73), (75) James (12) James D. (86), (88) John (75), (86) Mary (61) Merry (29) Nancy (45) Nelly (74) Preston (73) Rhoda (39) Robert (57), (80), (86) Robt. (56), (65) Ruth (54) Serena (86) Susanna (87) William (29), (47), (54), (62), (76) I hope this is of some help to someone. Bobby G. Carwile

GOOD GRIEF !!! I didn't mean to start a riot...HEY I live near the WEST coast....and don't usually turn my puter on this early, but my hubbie was playing games.. SO, I'll tell ya'all.. just calm down !!!! nobody stole any documents for us...it was MR. Collins who was/is the president of the Hist Soc., I believe...he made 3 sets of copies of the contents of File boxs 52-67..in the old school back in Summer of 97, when no one was doing anything about the mess...I'm sure he put them back.. Ed Elkin(Dec'd) Mary Roach of Knoxville, and I ,paid Mr. Collins to do this..Ed transcribesd them before he died... I'm very glad to hear they are being cleaned and filmed AT LAST !!!!!...If I live any where near there I'd be there helping also....but over 2000 miles each way, is a bit much for me <Smile> SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > Dear Duane, > > You have not really given Shar an opportunity to answer HAVE youe. Maybe > she is busy during the day or something! > > Gail > > > > > This may or may not be the case here but it has happened before. SharR > > has not answered, but the transcriber was Ed Elkin if anyone knows him > > > > Duane Mills > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Possible, Probable and Potential Cuzzins, I have at LEAST 3 families who intermarried: my GREERs, MYNATTs & VINEYARDs. I've seen others, but perhaps a bit out of my direct lines. Explanation? Perhaps it was just too much trouble to travel over the mountain...HA! Nancy in Alexandria, Virginia USA ========================== "If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.."

I would love to see a list of MITCHELL marriages also, if available. Thanx, Nancy

I don't know how much was microfilmed and sent to the state library at Nashville. Idoknow mg liscence ate on microfilm there. Don't know if this will help or not. Mildred ----- Original Message ----- From: Conni Braun <[email protected]> To: <TNGRAI[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > I hope for everyone's sake that the records were microfilmed. Like you I > live out of state and have to rely on the wonderful people on the mail lists > who will do lookups. > > Happy Researching! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > > > > Conni, > > > > This is only partly true. My understanding is that most of these > > records were supposed to have been (microfilmed?) or at least > > transcribed by the WPA and these were sent to TSLA. The records > > themselves remained at the county level. > > > > I long knew when my ggggfather married in Grainger Co. but thanks to > > Mickey Morris and Debbie (do not remember last name) who used to > > research the records and even made a set of mg. books, I got a copy > > of the original to match against the transcript. It was both > > wonderful and productive to see the original mg. liscense and bond > > because it clearly showed he was literate and could sign his name. > > > > I wish I lived near Grainger Co. as I would gladly volunteer to help. > > > > Duane > > > > >I didn't take it that way but just to let you know that it is happening. > > >That's a bad situation that is going to hurt the rest of us who are > > >searching for documentation about our ancestors. I tend to document > > >everything and there are a number of holes in my family history that I > may > > >never be able to find because there are documents which are no longer > > >available to me. > > > > > >Conni > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:39 AM > > >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > > > > > > > > >> Conni, > > >> > > >> I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if > it > > >> is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required > > >> to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future > > >> researchers are not penalized. > > >> > > >> Duane Mills > > >> > > >> >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list > since > > >I > > >> >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just > let > > >> >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There > probably > > >> >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked > > >away > > >> >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are > in > > >> >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > > >> > > > >> >Conni > > >> > > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > > >> >To: <[email protected]> > > >> >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM > > >> >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach > > >(LONG) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> SharR, > > >> >> > > >> >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) > documents > > >out > > >> >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > > >> >> > > >> >> Duane Mills > > >> >> > > >> >> >Gail and any Cousins... > > >> >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) > a > > >> >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary > Roach > > >and > > >> >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > > >> >> > > > >> >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY > etc. > > >> >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or > two > > >> > > >SharR > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Dear Sheri, I really enjoyed reading your letter about your own research. I always love hearing what other researchers are doing! HOWEVER please RECHECK the message I sent to the list last evening. In your reply to this message you said: "..assigned the wrong father to Nancy. If you hadn't mentioned Henry was the Jane's father, not Sherrod, who knows what terribly mixed up things I would have done.." I said Henry IVEY (IVY) was Jane MAYES IVY's FATHER-IN-LAW <smile> and that Jane HOWELL IVY was Jane MAYES IVY's MOTHER-IN-LAW (<smile>don't mean to "shout" just trying to get the point across.) which could have caused your Frederick MAYES descendent's confusion regarding DODs (I KNOW all the Jane's, Henrys and Nancys are terribly confusing. <smile>) My third great grandmother, Jane MAYES IVY, WAS Shrerrod MAYES and Elizabeth SMITH MAYES's daughter. Jane MAYES IVY was born in 1792 and died sometime after 1870 most likely in Hamblen County, Tennessee. Her husband, Benjamin IVY, died in 1853 in Grainger County. Benjamin was the son of Henry IVY or IVEY (1754-16 July 1836) and his wife, Jane HOWELL (1759-circa July 1848). Bye for Now, Gail

Dear Duane, You have not really given Shar an opportunity to answer HAVE youe. Maybe she is busy during the day or something! Gail > > This may or may not be the case here but it has happened before. SharR > has not answered, but the transcriber was Ed Elkin if anyone knows him > > Duane Mills >

Dear Fellow Researchers, Why don't we all just calm down here. As I understand it through years of participation on this list that a lot of people went out there and photocopied the records. (at that time you were allowed to take the records someplace and have them photocopied). Once again I have NEVER been out there so I do NOT know the situation, but as I understand it at least one family group wnt out there and parked their RV st the Courthouse and spent three days photocopying records. Actually I thought it maybe it WAS some of the Roaches. I do remember that whoever the lady was she said that her husband suggested that it might be a good idea to "rescue" the documents (at least on a temporary basis, but they DID NOT remove the records. Of course, I am not sure it was Roach family members, but like I said said I don't think we should go off "half cocked" here. Gail in MO ----- Original Message ----- From: duane mills <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 06:39 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > Conni, > > I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if it > is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required > to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future > researchers are not penalized. > > Duane Mills > > >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since I > >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let > >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably > >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked away > >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in > >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > > > >Conni > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM > >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach (LONG) > > > > > >> SharR, > >> > >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents out > >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > >> > >> Duane Mills > >> > >> >Gail and any Cousins... > >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach and > >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > >> > > >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > > > >SharR > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

I hope for everyone's sake that the records were microfilmed. Like you I live out of state and have to rely on the wonderful people on the mail lists who will do lookups. Happy Researching! ----- Original Message ----- From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > Conni, > > This is only partly true. My understanding is that most of these > records were supposed to have been (microfilmed?) or at least > transcribed by the WPA and these were sent to TSLA. The records > themselves remained at the county level. > > I long knew when my ggggfather married in Grainger Co. but thanks to > Mickey Morris and Debbie (do not remember last name) who used to > research the records and even made a set of mg. books, I got a copy > of the original to match against the transcript. It was both > wonderful and productive to see the original mg. liscense and bond > because it clearly showed he was literate and could sign his name. > > I wish I lived near Grainger Co. as I would gladly volunteer to help. > > Duane > > >I didn't take it that way but just to let you know that it is happening. > >That's a bad situation that is going to hurt the rest of us who are > >searching for documentation about our ancestors. I tend to document > >everything and there are a number of holes in my family history that I may > >never be able to find because there are documents which are no longer > >available to me. > > > >Conni > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:39 AM > >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Records > > > > > >> Conni, > >> > >> I do not mean to imply that this is what happened in this case, but if it > >> is, and SharR knows who has the documents, they should be required > >> to make copies for themselves and return the originals so that future > >> researchers are not penalized. > >> > >> Duane Mills > >> > >> >That's the information that has been going around on this mail list since > >I > >> >started my research a couple of years ago. The clerk's office just let > >> >anyone have the key to look through the old documents. There probably > >> >wasn't any supervision or method to make copies so people just walked > >away > >> >with documents. And from what I understand the remaining records are in > >> >disray and poor shape. It's so heartbreaking! > >> > > >> >Conni > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "duane mills" <[email protected]> > >> >To: <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 1:01 AM > >> >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Petition to Partition land of Green Roach > >(LONG) > >> > > >> > > >> >> SharR, > >> >> > >> >> You seem to be saying that a researcher took 114 (original) documents > >out > >> >> of the old schoolhouse. I really hope this is not true. > >> >> > >> >> Duane Mills > >> >> > >> >> >Gail and any Cousins... > >> >> >this is a transription by Ed Elkin, of a document, (one of 114) a > >> >> >Researcher got out of the old school house in 97..for Ed, Mary Roach > >and > >> >> >I...see: Sarah ROACH + Edward MAYES, > >> >> > > >> >> >other names:COFFEE, MALLICOAT, OWENS, MCELHANEY, ARNETT,& RAY etc. > >> >> >I know this is long, but maybe someone might solve a mystery or two > >> > > >SharR > >> > >> > >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >> > > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >