Looking for ATKINS/ADKINS family and related connections. Would absolutely LOVE to know the parents of Louis & Richard ATKINS and where they came from in VA. They married MONROE sisters in 1804 & 1805 in Grainger co. Karen

Greetings List, I am so thrilled to see the wonderul and giving exchange of information that is happening on the Grainger List regarding the Roach family. This is how I imagine the List is to best serve us. Everyone shares. In the hopes that I can jump my family into this momentum, I wonder who of you out there is working on your ROOKARD, BROCKUS, BRANHAM, NORRIS family? Wanna join in on the fun? Dyers, Oakes, & Massengills welcome, too. Here is the short list of my Grainger Roots: 1 William Franklin ROOKARD 2 William Franklin ROOKARD b: 1806 d: 1860's + Nancy BROCKUS b: 1802 d: Aft 1880 3 Lewis ROOKARD b: 16 June 1835 d: 30 Jun 1910 + Eliza Jane BRANHAM b: May 1838 d: 29 April 1904 4 William Franklin ROOKARD b: 2 Feb 1869 d: 1 Nov 1905 Anyone? Debra GenExchange County Coordinator, City of Williamsburg http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?State=va&County=williamsburg

--=======7455107E======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3FF17D8; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am new to the list, and would like to let all the members know what surname I am looking for information on. and that would be GRIFFIN 1801--to at least 1850, they may have crossed back and forth into Jefferson Co. also. Thanks for your consideration, Kay Searching East TN for, GRIFFIN, HARVEY, SHARP, REDMAN, ROBERTSON, DANIEL Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people. - Giordano Bruno --=======7455107E=======--

Hi, Gail, Some years ago, Sam, a descendant of James C. W. or James K. Roach told me that his father had interviewed his own father and had a tape of that conversation. On tape, Sam's grandfather stated that his dad was James "Cannon" Roach. I had long suspected that whatever the K. stood for was interchangeable with C. So it could be James Cannon or James Kennon/Kannon, I suspect. James C. W. or James K. was born 22 Jan 1829 Grainger Co. TN, d. Feb 1904 Grainger Co. TN, bd. Indian Ridge Cemetery, Blaine, TN. He md. Rachel Dyer 10 Feb 1850 Grainger Co. TN, Samuel Jones, MG, Baptist Church. Rachel was b. 7 April 1831 Grainger Co. TN, d. ca 3 Feb 1910 Grainger Co. TN. Also bd. Indian Ridge Cemetery. According to Sam, she was the daughter of Isaac Dyer and Rachel _____. James' brother, Absalom, was bondsman when he married Rachel Dyer. This Absalom is my line. Figuring out the marriages between various Roaches and Dyers presents quite a challenge. Like the Roaches, the Dyers seem to have named their kiddos the same names over and over and over. I have William Carter Roach as being born ca 1872 Grainger Co. TN, md. Ella Mynatt 1895. Have she was born 1879 and died 1899. He md. 2) Nancy Mondale Hensley, born 1883, died 1921. No other information there. Have William Carter's children as: Mary Florentha Roach Tellice Verona Roach (b. 1904, d. 1939) Nettie Golda (b. 1906, d. 1958, md. Frank Tippins) Marti Maxe Roach (b. 1910, d. 1949, md. Edward Carmack Cook and 2) Leonard Bowlin) James Marion Roach (b. 1911 Knoxville TN, d. 1994, md. Mabel Lloyd, md. 2) Pearl Claybo Ellen Catherine Roach (b. 1912 Grainger Co., d. 1995, md. Charles Bailey) Vonnie Dora Roach (b. 1914, d. 1944 in childbirth, md. Parrott Brabson. They had three children: Doris Jean Brabson, Caroline Jo Brabson, and Wiliam Carter "Bill" Brabson, the latter being the child born when Vonnie died, who survived the ordeal.) Joel Everett Roach (b. 1917, d. 1991, md. Pearl Claybough.) [Is this the same as the Pearl Claybo that James Marion married?] Unless Mary Florentha was the daughter of Ella Mynatt, it does not appear that they had any offspring .......... ? When did William Carter die? Hope this helps. Betty From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Carter Roach Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 10:16:09 EST I now believe I have found the William Carter Roach who married (1) Ella Mynatt 20 Oct 1895 and (2) Nancy Mondalee Hensley after 1900. I think he must be the Carter Roach, son of James and Rachel (Dyer) Roach. My question now is what was James' full name? I see him listed as James H., James Kennon and James C. W. My other question is which Rachel Dyer did he marry? There were quite a few of them about that time. Gail Mynatt Zeigler ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Betty, & All.. Yes, your almost correct...it is Jn Greens line...actually his son John ROACH jr. + Clarka OWENS their eldest son was James Anderson ROACH...and he md: Susan Emeline DYER....her father was a James .& Biddy DYER ....I don't know how they connect to Isaac DYER or if they do? SharR <<< It seems to me that John Green's line has a James Anderson Roach that > married a Dyer as well. Susan or something like that

Thats who it was....YES!!! I have deed records(so do you) of John A. & Amandy...getting land from the estate of Isaac DYER... that was Rachels sister SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Carter Roach > > Ooops, I forgot to turn my Rich Text Editor on, so I don't know if it went > or not. If it did, it was all messed up. Reply is below. Sorry! > > > > SharR - > > > I think John was probably Rachel's older brother, but I've not dug into that > enough to prove it. Martha Ann did marry John Dyer, though. And there's > some indication that the Amanda Dyer that was John A. Roach's second wife, > was also a sister. Again, I haven't even tried to prove that one way or the > other. > > > It seems to me that John Green's line has a James Anderson Roach that > married a Dyer as well. Susan or something like that ..........? I don't > know what Dyer she belonged to. > > > Betty B. > > > > > > > > > From: "SharR" > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Carter Roach > > > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:32:11 -0800 > > > > > Hi Ya'll > > > isn't Rachel DYER the sister of John DYER that md: James ROACH's sister > > > Martha ROACH?....and it seems she had another sister____ DYER that md: into > > > the ROACH's or another close family also... > > > > > SharR > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:16 AM > > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Carter Roach > > > > > > > >I now believe I have found the William Carter Roach who married (1) Ella > > > >Mynatt 20 Oct 1895 and (2) Nancy Mondalee Hensley after 1900. I think he > > > must > > > >be the Carter Roach, son of James and Rachel (Dyer) Roach. My question now > > > is > > > >what was James' full name? I see him listed as James H., James Kennon and > > > >James C. W. My other question is which Rachel Dyer did he marry? There > > > were > > > >quite a few of them about that time. > > > >Gail Mynatt Zeigler > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Hi Ya'll isn't Rachel DYER the sister of John DYER that md: James ROACH's sister Martha ROACH?....and it seems she had another sister____ DYER that md: into the ROACH's or another close family also... SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 7:16 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Carter Roach > I now believe I have found the William Carter Roach who married (1) Ella > Mynatt 20 Oct 1895 and (2) Nancy Mondalee Hensley after 1900. I think he must > be the Carter Roach, son of James and Rachel (Dyer) Roach. My question now is > what was James' full name? I see him listed as James H., James Kennon and > James C. W. My other question is which Rachel Dyer did he marry? There were > quite a few of them about that time. > Gail Mynatt Zeigler > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Betty, Thanks for the verification. I have two interests in this man. First, he Married Ella Mynatt (my Grandfather's older sister) and after she died he married Mondalee Hensley (my Grandmother's younger sister). Secondly, I have a number of pictures that I took at Mynatt reunions back in the late 40s/early 50s, some only labeled with things like "the Roach contingent" and no names. I would love to find one of the Roach kids in those pictures who could identify them. Ella and Carter had three sons. They were Hobart (17 Aug 1895 - Oct 1968), Henry (1897 - ?) and Wm. Carter, Jr., who died at about three weeks of age. He was born on March 22, 1899, Ella died March 30 and the baby on April 7. Carter took Hobart (I don't know what happened to Henry) and went back home to James and Rachel where they were in the 1900 census. Florentha is a Hensley name so I'm sure she was Mondalee's kid. I think I remember my grandmother saying that she died either in infancy or early childhood. When did Carter die? I haven't a clue. What you had on the second bunch of kids is what I have with no major differences. I do have some of the later generations if you are interested but don't want to post them to the list because I don't want to put anything out on living folks. Thanks again, Gail

I now believe I have found the William Carter Roach who married (1) Ella Mynatt 20 Oct 1895 and (2) Nancy Mondalee Hensley after 1900. I think he must be the Carter Roach, son of James and Rachel (Dyer) Roach. My question now is what was James' full name? I see him listed as James H., James Kennon and James C. W. My other question is which Rachel Dyer did he marry? There were quite a few of them about that time. Gail Mynatt Zeigler

Hi, Group ~ I've been reading all the May/Mayes, Owens, Roach, etc., etc. and have enjoyed it, though I defer to SharR when it comes to Mayes and Owens. I have an Ivy/Ivey question though. James Roach md. Martha Ivy/Ivey 31 Dec 1819 Orange Co. NC James was the son of William Roach and Milly Cate. James md. 2) Elizabeth O'Daniel 5 Dec 1835 Orange Co. NC, B. Corbett Bondsman. The James Roach family eventually moved to TN, and then on to MS. Does anyone know who this Martha Ivey/Ivy was, and do you have information on her and/or James? Thanks much, Betty B. From: "Sheri P. Kelly" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Jane May Mayse Ivey Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 05:02:37 -0800 (PST) Gail, Thanks again for the help. I will enter all information below in my data and make sure I have the connections placed properly. Unless someone else wants more detailed information, what you have now sent is fine. You have enough other work and research to do without trying to find more. I appreciate all you have done in regards to helping me with the Mayes research. I know I will have other questions in the near future as I continue to enter the data I've downloaded and printed. Enjoy your day! Sheri Gail Roorda <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Sheri You said, "Jane Howell Ivey is in no way related to the Jane Howell who married James Mayes, then Reuben Groves, Jr, or at least that's what I have determined. The surname Howell happens to be merely coincidential, right?" No concidence here Sherry. Jane "Jincey" "Jenny" Howell Mayes Grove was my 4th great grandmother Jane Howell Ivey's niece. Jane Howell Mayes Grove was the daughter of my Jane Ivey's brother, Henry Howell and his wife Jane O. Collins. (Some sources: Henry Howell's Revolutionary pension file #795. In a deposition dated Feby 1848 shortly before Jane Ivy's death, Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell was her brother (actually Henry's pension file is Jane O. Collins Howell's application for a pension, Henry Howell died in 1819.) Also Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell had served two tours with her husband (Henry Ivey or Ivy). Jane O. Howell left a nocuperative will in 1849?? in Grainger County mentioning her daughters Jane now Jane Grove and Prudence Carmichael. I don't think Jane Grove or Jane Mayes as she would have been then was mentioned in her brother Thomas K. Howells earlier will. He "remembered" Prudence Carmichael and Prudy's children and some of the Countses. James Mays and Jane his wife are mentioned as heirs of Henry Howell, dec'd in land records after Henry died.. I am working from memory here since I don't have time to dig all the "stuff"out right now. It is getting very late here and I need to get up very early so bye for Now, Gail ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Tina, Thanks, hmmm are you thinking the Elsey C.23 is Catherine Yates? SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > Hey there, > I checked with the 1860 census > I looked at all the Yates and the only one that came close is in this > household- > Meridith Yates 60 > Martha 55 > Jackson S. 26 > Elsey C. 23 > Temple L.C. 9 > > next door was > Vicy Roach 45-widow > Hannah 22 > Nancy W. 18 > Amanda W. 16 > Martha L. 13 > Henry 11 > Mary J. 9 > Lafayette 6 > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:55 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > Milly, > > Absolum ROACH b: 27 Aug 1831 md: Catherine "Kate" YATES -17 Dec 1861 > > Grainger Co TN. I'm not sure if I know who Kate belonged to...they are > > buried in Grainger Co. > > SharR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "milly" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > > > > I agree that Grainger seems to be one big happy family. My families in > > > Grainger are Chesher and Yates. I see names my Dad (born and raised in > > > Grainger Co.) talked about endlessly. Some I'm sure are related by mg - > > > Roach, Michell and vineyard. If anyone sees A Chesher or Yates in their > > > trees, would they please contact me? > > > Thanks for reading and any reply I might get > > > Milly [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Greer, Nancy Ms <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:34 AM > > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > > > > > > > Dear Possible, Probable and Potential Cuzzins, > > > > I have at LEAST 3 families who intermarried: my GREERs, MYNATTs & > > > VINEYARDs. > > > > I've seen others, but perhaps a bit out of my direct lines. > Explanation? > > > > Perhaps it was just too much trouble to travel over the mountain...HA! > > > > Nancy in Alexandria, Virginia USA > > > > > > > > ========================== > > > > "If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.." > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Good Evening List: Would anyone know who Susannah Mayes Bridges first husband was? The information provided to me states that William Mayes (son of Sherrod), b 10/03/1776 in VA, married Susannah Mayes Bridges b 9/20/1777 in VA. Thanks for any help. Sheri Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

SharR, I have really enjoyed all the Roach mail lately. All the other contributors have added to my family information. I wonder who could have been the father to Sarah's children, Nancy and Nelson. Nelson was my gggrandfather. Thanks again everyone. Other connections: Luster and Heath. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: SharR <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Another MAYES-ROACH Connection >Gail, >on how I know this "that Edward was much older" the 1860 census with child >William age 6, I know Sarah was born ca: 1825 ,so in 1860 she would only >have been abt 35 or so... > >she isn't on the 1850 census with her father Green ROACH, where was she, I >dunno ?, but she had two children (out of wedlock) we assume, because they >are Nancy & Nelson Roach.. before she married Edward MAYES in 1853 > >busy Girl, she and her two ROACH children are mentioned along with Edward >MAYES and William as heirs...in Estate records in of Green ROACH 1867 and >later in Land records in 1913 > >I wonder who this William MAYES b: ca 1854 married? >SharR >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:17 PM >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Another MAYES-ROACH Connection > > >> Shar, >> >> Here goes, <wheew> I have been trying to get to this message for more than >a >> week. I was trying to think of a Mayes I could ask about Edward and Sarah >> and I guess I needed a Roach researcher you <grin> instead. >> >> You said: >> >> "Gail, >> > another MAYES Connection is Edward MAYES who md: 17 Feb 1853 Sarah >ROACH >> b: ca 1835 d: pre: 1867 (a dau of Jn Green ROACH ) they had one son >William >> MAYES...., which Edward is this? he was much older than she..." >> >> How do you know this <smile>?? and that Edward was much older than Sarah. >I >> think you might have the piece of the puzzle I am missing.. oops I am >> getting a little a head of myself. I think I will just type out the >> information on Edward so you and the other Mayes or Roach researchers can >> see what I am talking about. >> >> Edward was born circa 1796 (1850 and 1860 census) in Virginia (probably >> Henry County) the son of Liggen and Esther Daniel Mayes and the grandson >> Henry and Phebe ? Mayes. His other grandparents were Edward Daniel, Sr. >and >> Anna ? his wife. (sources Henry Mayes will (1787) Henry County, Virginia. >> Edward Daniel, Sr, will (1833) Grainger County, Tennessee Will Book 1 page >> 24.) >> >> He married Nancy "Nanie" Greenlee (born about 1898) 23 December 1814 in >> Grainger County, Tennessee. >> >> Edward's household in 1830. (Edward is listed on the same page with his >> Greenlee in-laws.) >> >> Edward Mays household, 1830 U. S. census Grainger County, Tennessee, page >> 395, line 13. >> >> 2 males under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 30-40, 1 female under 5, 2 females >> 5-10, 1 female 10-15, 1 female 30-40. >> >> Edward Mayes household 1840 U. S. census Grainger County, Tennessee, page >> 102, line 27. (Edward is still listed near his Greenlee in-laws. Besides >> the only OTHER Edward that I know of (keep this in mind) living in the >> county at this time, Edward, the son of Dudley was younger, and is >> undoubtedly the Edward listed next to Dudley on page 119). >> >> 2 males 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 15-20, 1 male 40-50, 1 female 5-10, 2 >> females 10-15, 2 females 15-20, 1 female 20-30. >> >> (Please note, there is no female in the household old enough to be Nanie >> Greenlee so I think Nanie was quite likely dead by 1840, but so far I have >> not been able to find any information on this.) >> >> Edward's son-in-law, David Yates is listed as HOH on the 1850 Grainger >> County census. >> >> David Yates household, 1850 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, >> population schedule, civil district 5, page 34 B, dwelling 475, Family >492. >> >> David Yates 23 male Farmer born Tenn >> Elizabeth 27 female born " >> Edward Mayes 54 male Farmer born Virg >> Phebe " 33 female born Tenn >> Major L. " 14 male born " >> >> In 1860 we have: >> >> Edward Mayes household, 1860 U. S. census, Grainger County, Tennessee, >> population schedule, civil district 5, Rutledge post office, page 436B, >> dwelling 483, family 483, 16 July 1860. >> >> Edward Mayes 65 male farmer >> Phebe 34 female domestic >> Wm 6 male >> >> Now the information I have is that Phebe Mayes never married. You will >also >> note that Phebe's age is given as 34. (or as I read it? One of these >> spinster ladies who only age a year between censuses?? <smile> On the >other >> hand who knows who answers the census takers questions?? Maybe it was >> William. <grin>) My transcription also reads (I have no photocopy for >> Edward's household so maybe I should recheck this entry ) that Edward was >> born in Tennessee and Edward was almost assuredly born Virginia. (like I >> said who knows who answers the census takers questions). >> >> Hunting for an explanation for William, I checked marriage records and >found >> the following: >> >> Edward Mayes married Sarah Roach 17 February 1853 in |Grainger County. >> >> So in answer to your question, Shar, I think the Edward who married Green >> Roach's daughter, Sarah, was Hamilton Roach's father-in-law, Edward Mayes, >> son of Liggen, the Edward we have been discussing. >> >> I think I should just send this on to the list. I have more, but we have >> Ash Wednesday services tonight, and like I said I have been trying to get >> this posted for days. >> >> Gail in MO >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >> > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Gail and Carolyn, Hi cousin Carolyn....yes, I'm curious abt Nancy & Nelson's father too Gail: Question ?? if the elder Edward MAYES is the father of Sarah ROACH's son William MAYES...which we believe is the case.....why doesn't he list William in his 1866 estate records? unless we don't have all the info for that Estate.. William would have been abt 12 then...Did Edward list the guardian of William instead...?hmmm one Mystery leads to another.... SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne May" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Another MAYES-ROACH Connection > SharR, > > I have really enjoyed all the Roach mail lately. All the other contributors > have added to my family information. I wonder who could have been the > father to Sarah's children, Nancy and Nelson. Nelson was my gggrandfather. > Thanks again everyone. > > Other connections: Luster and Heath. > > Carolyn >

Check the LDS Family History Center. I've used microfilm of Grainger, Knox & Union county marriage records through them. It costs about $3.75 for four or five weeks loan--and it can be renewed. Karen

Some people don't believe it is theft because it is THEIR ancestor (although it could also be yours or mine too), and if the records are in danger of deteriorating because of poor care--they can easily rationalize that it is better to have it in their hands than to not have it available at all. Karen

Gail, Thanks again for the help. I will enter all information below in my data and make sure I have the connections placed properly. Unless someone else wants more detailed information, what you have now sent is fine. You have enough other work and research to do without trying to find more. I appreciate all you have done in regards to helping me with the Mayes research. I know I will have other questions in the near future as I continue to enter the data I've downloaded and printed. Enjoy your day! Sheri Gail Roorda <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Sheri You said, "Jane Howell Ivey is in no way related to the Jane Howell who married James Mayes, then Reuben Groves, Jr, or at least that's what I have determined. The surname Howell happens to be merely coincidential, right?" No concidence here Sherry. Jane "Jincey" "Jenny" Howell Mayes Grove was my 4th great grandmother Jane Howell Ivey's niece. Jane Howell Mayes Grove was the daughter of my Jane Ivey's brother, Henry Howell and his wife Jane O. Collins. (Some sources: Henry Howell's Revolutionary pension file #795. In a deposition dated Feby 1848 shortly before Jane Ivy's death, Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell was her brother (actually Henry's pension file is Jane O. Collins Howell's application for a pension, Henry Howell died in 1819.) Also Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell had served two tours with her husband (Henry Ivey or Ivy). Jane O. Howell left a nocuperative will in 1849?? in Grainger County mentioning her daughters Jane now Jane Grove and Prudence Carmichael. I don't think Jane Grove or Jane Mayes as she would have been then was mentioned in her brother Thomas K. Howells earlier will. He "remembered" Prudence Carmichael and Prudy's children and some of the Countses. James Mays and Jane his wife are mentioned as heirs of Henry Howell, dec'd in land records after Henry died.. I am working from memory here since I don't have time to dig all the "stuff"out right now. It is getting very late here and I need to get up very early so bye for Now, Gail ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more

Thank you so much Shari. This is the family. I really appreciate it. Their records are so hard to find. Thanks, Pat

Hey there, I checked with the 1860 census I looked at all the Yates and the only one that came close is in this household- Meridith Yates 60 Martha 55 Jackson S. 26 Elsey C. 23 Temple L.C. 9 next door was Vicy Roach 45-widow Hannah 22 Nancy W. 18 Amanda W. 16 Martha L. 13 Henry 11 Mary J. 9 Lafayette 6 Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > Milly, > Absolum ROACH b: 27 Aug 1831 md: Catherine "Kate" YATES -17 Dec 1861 > Grainger Co TN. I'm not sure if I know who Kate belonged to...they are > buried in Grainger Co. > SharR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "milly" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > I agree that Grainger seems to be one big happy family. My families in > > Grainger are Chesher and Yates. I see names my Dad (born and raised in > > Grainger Co.) talked about endlessly. Some I'm sure are related by mg - > > Roach, Michell and vineyard. If anyone sees A Chesher or Yates in their > > trees, would they please contact me? > > Thanks for reading and any reply I might get > > Milly mi[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Greer, Nancy Ms <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:34 AM > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Intermarrying in Grainger County, TN > > > > > > > Dear Possible, Probable and Potential Cuzzins, > > > I have at LEAST 3 families who intermarried: my GREERs, MYNATTs & > > VINEYARDs. > > > I've seen others, but perhaps a bit out of my direct lines. Explanation? > > > Perhaps it was just too much trouble to travel over the mountain...HA! > > > Nancy in Alexandria, Virginia USA > > > > > > ========================== > > > "If you ask me ,Grainger Co. is just ONE big family.." > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Sheri You said, "Jane Howell Ivey is in no way related to the Jane Howell who married James Mayes, then Reuben Groves, Jr, or at least that's what I have determined. The surname Howell happens to be merely coincidential, right?" No concidence here Sherry. Jane "Jincey" "Jenny" Howell Mayes Grove was my 4th great grandmother Jane Howell Ivey's niece. Jane Howell Mayes Grove was the daughter of my Jane Ivey's brother, Henry Howell and his wife Jane O. Collins. (Some sources: Henry Howell's Revolutionary pension file #795. In a deposition dated Feby 1848 shortly before Jane Ivy's death, Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell was her brother (actually Henry's pension file is Jane O. Collins Howell's application for a pension, Henry Howell died in 1819.) Also Jane Ivy stated that Henry Howell had served two tours with her husband (Henry Ivey or Ivy). Jane O. Howell left a nocuperative will in 1849?? in Grainger County mentioning her daughters Jane now Jane Grove and Prudence Carmichael. I don't think Jane Grove or Jane Mayes as she would have been then was mentioned in her brother Thomas K. Howells earlier will. He "remembered" Prudence Carmichael and Prudy's children and some of the Countses. James Mays and Jane his wife are mentioned as heirs of Henry Howell, dec'd in land records after Henry died.. I am working from memory here since I don't have time to dig all the "stuff"out right now. It is getting very late here and I need to get up very early so bye for Now, Gail