Gail, all is ok. What I now need help on is this Big John's approximate birth date as well as any children born to the John & Nancy marriage. I have corrected my data to read Nancy as a daughter of Henry already. Yes, the children attributed to John and Nancy, most did leave Grainger Co., as a 6 to 8 wagon train with several neighbors. I have names the neighbors names somewhere as well as the approximate date. This group passed through Stewart Co., TN and onto Trigg Co., KY, where descendents live today. I have noted that very little information has been seen on Big John Mayse. At this point I do not know who his father, mother, sibs were but if the birthday someone provides me is what I think it to be, then he's a Virginia born Mayes. Any help appreciated by anyone on this list. Also I must tell the list how much I appreciate their help and input to this Mayes research for me. This is not my ancestor, I am helping another do this research because he does not have a computer and lives in Missouri. We correspond by snail mail at this point. I hope to be able to provide him and his family an as correct as I can get it, family. I also will be sending all printed out emails and other documents to him for his use in continuing his research. Sheri Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Yes, that would be Phebe. Elizabeth Yates was her sister. And I am sure the age given on the 1860 census is way too young. I said so when I sent the census extraction to the list. Thank you very much Tina. <sigh> We are still left with the question where is William? Gail in MO ----- Original Message ----- From: R&T_Cooke <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 00:04 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES found > I thought that I would go ahead and look in 1870 to see if there was another > Phebe,but there wasn't.... > I did look in the > 1860- > Edward Mayse 65 > Phebe 34 > William 6 > > Was there a typo or was it misread ? > But nevertheless,here is a William......... > What do you think,,,,,,? > I wondered,if by chance of there being another Phebe,so I kept looking in > the 1860,but never saw one. > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:53 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES found > > > > Tina, > > thats her, b: ca 1817.....Thank you ! I guess she didn't raise william > > MAYES.b: ca 1854 Hmmmm... > > . > > SharR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > > > > > > > Well how old would this Phebe be in 1870 ???? > > > 1870-Grainger Co.TN > > > David Yates 46 > > > Elizabeth 49 > > > Pryre L. 18 > > > John F. 17 > > > George T. 9 > > > Phebe Mays 57 > > > > > > Would this be the one,,,,if not I will check in the other > > > households............ > > > Tina Lephew Cooke > > > Union Co.TN > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:46 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shar, > > > > > > > > I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dedar Sheri, Big John Mayes was the father of these children. <grin> Henry's Nancy was "Big John"'s first wife." <grin> Please reread my correspondence. (I hope I don't sound sharp because I am smiling :) :) I never know how I am coming acrross in my email messages and I do not mean to sound cross or abrupt. (like I said I am a slow typist so I tend to "offend" people by my brevity). I do know that these people can be very confusing. I really have not followed up on Big John and Nancy's children. I believe some of them had left Grainger County. This would be according to either documents connected with the slave case or with documents connected with Big John's estate settlement. (I don't have this information in front of me right now.) You should recheck Larry Hodge's transcriptions of "Big" John's estate settlement at Selena's website. I can check my 1850 census CD sometime because I have meant to see if I can do some follow up work on Big John's and Nancy's children. Also now that I have a census subscription I should be able to track some of them down. One of the children, Greenbery I believe was mentally handicapped or as they put it in those days an "idiot" so he would be most likely living with Big John's 2nd wife Nancy May Mayes or somebody else. I will look at the 1850 census and see what I can figure out. Gail > > To the List, and to Gail: > I need to know if anyone can provide me with the parents and any dates of: > David Mayes 1826-?, Thomas Mayes, Mahala Mayes (married John Oliver), Nancy Mayes (married John Joice), Greenberry Mayes, Pheby Mayes (married Edward Hodges), Martha Mayes (married Marcus Daniel), Elizabeth Mayes, and John Jr. Mayes, and William Mayes 1801-?. > At this current time I have all the above as siblings. I also have them as children of Nancy, daughter of Henry (thanks to Gail). If this is true, I need to know, and I really would like to know who the father was of these children, if they are sibs. If not sibs, I need help with who they should be assigned to. > Thanks for any help or suggestions. > > > Gail Roorda <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Shar, > > I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger County census is about > the worst census that ever was. Years ago when I first started researching > I was trying to read it on my neighbor's microfilm reader and I kept running > into where she was calmly working on some of her genaealogical projects > yelling, "I can't BELEVE this census!" In the end I only extracted my > immediate ancestors and very close collateral kin. > > I have begun going through this census again (very sloooowly) My > genealogical society in St. Joe has a copy of the 1870 Grainger census and > one day I decided to try to read it on the society's really great > reader/printer and found out I can read it when usiing this machine.. > However it has been months since I have been able to get to St. Joe! I am > really hoping to go soon so I can order in film at the FHC and get a copy of > this Edwad Mayes heirs document. > > One can't expect Ancestry.com censuses to be better than the original > microfilm especially since they are scanned images, but I will try to find > Phebe in the next couple of days. Apparently Ancestry was experiencing some > trouble this weekend, but I didn't try the site so I wouldn't know. (Unless > Tina comes through in the meantime . I am sure we all really > appreciate your help, Tina!) Maybe the census for that section of the county > is better. Most of my folks lived in that part of Grainger County which > became Hamblen County in 1870. However, I think Edward and your Roaches and > all those folks lived in what is PRESENT day Grainger County. > > Bye for Now, > > Gail in MO > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' > > VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. > > SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

I thought that I would go ahead and look in 1870 to see if there was another Phebe,but there wasn't.... I did look in the 1860- Edward Mayse 65 Phebe 34 William 6 Was there a typo or was it misread ? But nevertheless,here is a William......... What do you think,,,,,,? I wondered,if by chance of there being another Phebe,so I kept looking in the 1860,but never saw one. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES found > Tina, > thats her, b: ca 1817.....Thank you ! I guess she didn't raise william > MAYES.b: ca 1854 Hmmmm... > . > SharR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > > > > Well how old would this Phebe be in 1870 ???? > > 1870-Grainger Co.TN > > David Yates 46 > > Elizabeth 49 > > Pryre L. 18 > > John F. 17 > > George T. 9 > > Phebe Mays 57 > > > > Would this be the one,,,,if not I will check in the other > > households............ > > Tina Lephew Cooke > > Union Co.TN > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > > > > > > > Dear Shar, > > > > > > I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Well how old would this Phebe be in 1870 ???? 1870-Grainger Co.TN David Yates 46 Elizabeth 49 Pryre L. 18 John F. 17 George T. 9 Phebe Mays 57 Would this be the one,,,,if not I will check in the other households............ Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > Dear Shar, > > I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger County census is about > the worst census that ever was. Years ago when I first started researching > I was trying to read it on my neighbor's microfilm reader and I kept running > into where she was calmly working on some of her genaealogical projects > yelling, "I can't BELEVE this census!" In the end I only extracted my > immediate ancestors and very close collateral kin. > > I have begun going through this census again (very sloooowly) My > genealogical society in St. Joe has a copy of the 1870 Grainger census and > one day I decided to try to read it on the society's really great > reader/printer and found out I can read it when usiing this machine.. > However it has been months since I have been able to get to St. Joe! I am > really hoping to go soon so I can order in film at the FHC and get a copy of > this Edwad Mayes heirs document. > > One can't expect Ancestry.com censuses to be better than the original > microfilm especially since they are scanned images, but I will try to find > Phebe in the next couple of days. Apparently Ancestry was experiencing some > trouble this weekend, but I didn't try the site so I wouldn't know. (Unless > Tina comes through in the meantime <smile>. I am sure we all really > appreciate your help, Tina!) Maybe the census for that section of the county > is better. Most of my folks lived in that part of Grainger County which > became Hamblen County in 1870. However, I think Edward and your Roaches and > all those folks lived in what is PRESENT day Grainger County. > > Bye for Now, > > Gail in MO > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Does anyone have any more info on Mary Elizabeth Hammock? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Joyce

Tina, thats her, b: ca 1817.....Thank you ! I guess she didn't raise william MAYES.b: ca 1854 Hmmmm... . SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > Well how old would this Phebe be in 1870 ???? > 1870-Grainger Co.TN > David Yates 46 > Elizabeth 49 > Pryre L. 18 > John F. 17 > George T. 9 > Phebe Mays 57 > > Would this be the one,,,,if not I will check in the other > households............ > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Phebe MAYES > > > > Dear Shar, > > > > I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger

To the List, and to Gail: I need to know if anyone can provide me with the parents and any dates of: David Mayes 1826-?, Thomas Mayes, Mahala Mayes (married John Oliver), Nancy Mayes (married John Joice), Greenberry Mayes, Pheby Mayes (married Edward Hodges), Martha Mayes (married Marcus Daniel), Elizabeth Mayes, and John Jr. Mayes, and William Mayes 1801-?. At this current time I have all the above as siblings. I also have them as children of Nancy, daughter of Henry (thanks to Gail). If this is true, I need to know, and I really would like to know who the father was of these children, if they are sibs. If not sibs, I need help with who they should be assigned to. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Gail Roorda <[email protected]> wrote:Dear Shar, I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger County census is about the worst census that ever was. Years ago when I first started researching I was trying to read it on my neighbor's microfilm reader and I kept running into where she was calmly working on some of her genaealogical projects yelling, "I can't BELEVE this census!" In the end I only extracted my immediate ancestors and very close collateral kin. I have begun going through this census again (very sloooowly) My genealogical society in St. Joe has a copy of the 1870 Grainger census and one day I decided to try to read it on the society's really great reader/printer and found out I can read it when usiing this machine.. However it has been months since I have been able to get to St. Joe! I am really hoping to go soon so I can order in film at the FHC and get a copy of this Edwad Mayes heirs document. One can't expect Ancestry.com censuses to be better than the original microfilm especially since they are scanned images, but I will try to find Phebe in the next couple of days. Apparently Ancestry was experiencing some trouble this weekend, but I didn't try the site so I wouldn't know. (Unless Tina comes through in the meantime . I am sure we all really appreciate your help, Tina!) Maybe the census for that section of the county is better. Most of my folks lived in that part of Grainger County which became Hamblen County in 1870. However, I think Edward and your Roaches and all those folks lived in what is PRESENT day Grainger County. Bye for Now, Gail in MO ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Yes, you never know. I'll be interested to see if there is a response to my question of anyone researching this Brockers/Brockus family. I don't recall any posts regarding the name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 4:31 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Rookard-Brockers : your welcome, : I almost didn't send it as I figured you already had this info...but you : just never know what little tidbit might help, I guess... : : the index says BROCKERS...but maybe the original was hard to read?...I just : noticed another one for BROCKERS. maybe BROCKUS also? : BROCKERS, Jerry to CALVYHOUSE. Nancy 2-27-1822 : : this list has helped me so much, and I don't have many Grainger books to : help with, I have two films, but no reader or I could help more..so I'm glad : that little bit did help. : : : SharR : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> : To: <[email protected]> : Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:34 AM : Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Rookard-Brockers : : : > Thanks Shar, : > : > This is certainly interesting. No, I didn't have this. : > : > The third listing is my William b 1806, but have him married to Nancy : BROCKUS. I had the : > year, but not the date.Never have been able to find any info on Nancy. : Does anyone know of this family in Grainger?

Contact Kevin directly...his e-mail address is at the end of message Andersonville Civil War Prison, Georgia I will do free Volunteer research at Andersonville Civil War Prison, Andersonville, Georgia. There are 1200 prisoners on record from the state of Tennessee and almost 800 who died here. There are 2 online databases to do lookups..one by name...one by Company and Regiment. I also have a copy of the Dorence Atwater Death List which has names and grave numbers of 12960 graves with only 460 marked as “UNKNOWN”. This along with a CD I have which contains 34,000 names of the 45,000 who were imprisoned there which helps me find prisoner records because of misspellings of the names or alternate names. I visit the prison site every couple of weeks and have access to the onsite databases as well as the physical files. I will take photos of the graves for a small fee. Kevin Frye Local Andersonville Historian/National Park Service Volunteer [email protected] Source: [email protected] Written permission to reprint given by The Dalles Chronicle, The Dalles, Oregon Copied and submitted by Earline Wasser Member of Columbia Gorge Genealogical Society c/o The Dalles/Wasco County Public Library 722 Court Street The Dalles, Oregon 97058 http://community.oregonlive.com/cc/genealogy Browse http://historysavers.com/orwasco/ recently updated information regarding Wasco County - Links are at the bottom of page http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl "Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds you plant." Robert Louis Stevenson >From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Confederate records >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:45:17 -0600 > >Dear Eleanor, > >I am NO expert in original research regarding Civil War prisoners (and I >unintentionally misled you.) How I know more of them died in camps than in >battle is more through general research into their families. Some of the >families I am searching have many researchers who share information. For >instance it is commonly is known that Marmaduke Mayes son of the "other" >Edward Mayes of Grainger County died at Camp Lookout. (This was a Union >Prison Camp. It seems that most of Dudley Mayes descendents were >Confederate sympathizers as I know of their service, but this does not >necessarly apply to all the Mayeses as far as I can tell.) Marmaduke died >and was buried at Camp Lookout. I have seen a listing in those buried in >Camp Lookout online. I surely would have saved this URL, I will check >through my favorites and see if I can locate it. > >I am not sure whether you are looking for soldiers who died in prison camp >or those who survived and came home. Like I said I haven't done tons of >original research into this topic. My great great grandmother's Louisa >Gray >Mayes's brother-in-law Edward Tate was supposed to have died in a >CONFDERATE >prison camp, but I am certain I got this from the Tate section in Leaves >From the Family Tree, a common book found in many genealogy libraries >including mine in St. Joe. > >Somehow I knew James S. Kidwell died at Andersonville although I am not >descended from the Kidwells. I could go on and on, but most of what I knw >comes from pretty common references. That is why I asked for help on James >S. Kidwell. Probably I should do more checking with original sources >rather >than just passing this stuff on. >Nevertheless as I said it seems that many of my family "connections" died >in >prison camps and the only "cousin" I can think of that died in battle was >Calvin Ivey who died at Vicksburg. Calvin was the son of my third great >grandfather Benjamin (Ivey)Ivy's brother John and his wife Elizabeth >Kidwell. (Elizabeth Kidwell would have been James Stirling Kidwell's half >sister.) > >However, you have piqued my curiosity. There is a vast trove of Civil War >information online. However, it is all over the place, and sometimes >difficult to find. I have already found one truly great source and I am >going to look some more and then send this information on to the list. > >Gail > >----- Original Message ----- >From: ELEANOR McCAIN <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 13:44 >Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Confederate records > > > > Gail - am following the discussion for Civil War participation by > > Tennessee folks. You mentioned on Mar. 9th that you had had some > > experience with researching prisoners - from both sides. Do you have a > > good source for such info regarding Confederate soldiers - Tennessee or > > otherwise? Would appreciate any leads. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Eleanor > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to >[email protected] > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Shar, I can try to find Phebe. However, the 1870 Grainger County census is about the worst census that ever was. Years ago when I first started researching I was trying to read it on my neighbor's microfilm reader and I kept running into where she was calmly working on some of her genaealogical projects yelling, "I can't BELEVE this census!" In the end I only extracted my immediate ancestors and very close collateral kin. I have begun going through this census again (very sloooowly) My genealogical society in St. Joe has a copy of the 1870 Grainger census and one day I decided to try to read it on the society's really great reader/printer and found out I can read it when usiing this machine.. However it has been months since I have been able to get to St. Joe! I am really hoping to go soon so I can order in film at the FHC and get a copy of this Edwad Mayes heirs document. One can't expect Ancestry.com censuses to be better than the original microfilm especially since they are scanned images, but I will try to find Phebe in the next couple of days. Apparently Ancestry was experiencing some trouble this weekend, but I didn't try the site so I wouldn't know. (Unless Tina comes through in the meantime <smile>. I am sure we all really appreciate your help, Tina!) Maybe the census for that section of the county is better. Most of my folks lived in that part of Grainger County which became Hamblen County in 1870. However, I think Edward and your Roaches and all those folks lived in what is PRESENT day Grainger County. Bye for Now, Gail in MO

Yes, and they are probably in the 5th dist. but that film has alot of Initials instead of names...as I remember... I have a problem with my eyes and can't stare at those films for any length of time, like I used too... Ta' SharR <<<Edward and your Roaches and > all those folks lived in what is PRESENT day Grainger >>>County. > > Bye for Now, > > Gail in MO > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

your welcome, I almost didn't send it as I figured you already had this info...but you just never know what little tidbit might help, I guess... the index says BROCKERS...but maybe the original was hard to read?...I just noticed another one for BROCKERS. maybe BROCKUS also? BROCKERS, Jerry to CALVYHOUSE. Nancy 2-27-1822 this list has helped me so much, and I don't have many Grainger books to help with, I have two films, but no reader or I could help more..so I'm glad that little bit did help. SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Rookard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Rookard-Brockers > Thanks Shar, > > This is certainly interesting. No, I didn't have this. > > The third listing is my William b 1806, but have him married to Nancy BROCKUS. I had the > year, but not the date.Never have been able to find any info on Nancy. Does anyone know of > this family in Grainger? > > This makes me think that they are all brothers, since there are several young males listed > for William Rookard in the 1810 Brunswick, VA Census. The other is Robert, but haven't > conclusively connected him. > > Don't know about Aubrose/Ambrose. I have been trying to figure out Henry's relationship for > years. He and Dolly removed to MO and wasn't aware he was ever in Grainger. William and > Nancy's g'son William b 1869 d 1905 in Campbell County, named his 2nd son Henry, who in > turn named his son, my father Henry. Hmmm ... > > Thank you very much for this, > Debra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:12 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Rookard-Brockers > > > : Debra, > : for the Person that wants to be a Roach ; ^ ) > : > : this is all I could find on your surnames, and you probably already have this... > : > : Marriages for Grainger Co TN: > : > : ROOKARD, Aubrose-- to-- LAIM, Elizabeth 3-5-1826 > : Henry L. -- to --LANE, Dolly 1-9-1828 > : William----to---BROCKERS,Nancy 1-8-1829 > : > : SharR > : > : > : ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > : To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > : > : > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Okey Dokey....and as I lay awake this Am trying to get one more little nap....Genealogy prevents sleep.. Ha Ha I thought of something else...(Ut-Oh) Where was Phebe MAYES in 1870 Census?...maybe we need to follow her also....did she raise little William MAYES? after their father died....would be logical...(which doesn't make it true of course ; ^) TINA HELP....I wish that ancestry had more indexs so I wouldn't have to pester Tina... SharR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] additional info > I meant to put in Sarah's parents myself (they were Hamilton's parents too, of course. and I will add Catherine Wolf and Reverand John Kidwell These people were so interconnected I really try to find out about the spouse's > parents). Also I just typed in Grace's information without citations. I > need to go back and do that some more work (this is a work in progress). > > Perhaps I should NOT have said "probably not Edward", because I think it > COULD have been Edward. Actually I did think it interesting that Edward > remarried after being so a widower for some time even before I knew about > Sarah's other children. Or it sunk in about Edward and Sarah and Sarah's > older children. Actually you all have been discussing this since 1998 and > it just all went right over my head. I did catch the reference to Edward, > of course and I think I knew Edward was Liggen and Esther's son. > > The reason I know you have been discussing this for years is because I have > all my Grainger List mail since 1998 (at least the significant parts). I > ran across some of your early postings when I was looking to find out who > parked the RV beside the schoolhouse and copied records for three days. > <grin> I was wrong it wasn't Roach researchers, it was some of the > Mallicoats. <smile> Now that's dedication, and three people working for > three days can get a lot of photocopying done. I hope to get out there > someday myself.<sigh> > > Anyway I certainly haven't discounted Edward being the older children's > father. However, as you said the question is where was Sarah in 1850? > Edward, Major and Phebe are listed with David and Elizabeth Mayes Yates. > Quite a mystery here. > > Gail > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

The following are some of the Hodge/s mentioned with other associated names in Grainger. I'm researching all the Hodge/s in early Grainger. Thomas Hodges (no idea where he came from) married in Jefferson County 5 May 1840 Catherine Miller, d/o of Robert Miller and Sarah "Sally" VanDyke. He was 20 years older than Catherine, so he probably had an earlier family someplace. They had issue: i. Sarah F. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1843. ii. Rufus M. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1844; served in Union Army, pvt, Co "G", 9th Cav. iii. Mary A. Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1845. iv. Thomas Hodge was born 1 Oct 1847. Thomas died 22 Jul 1913 at 65 years of age. His burial was after 22 Jul 1913 in Piedmont Cemetery, Piedmont Community, Jefferson County, Tennessee. He married Celia Unknown. Celia was born 17 Oct 1848. v. Nancy Hodge was born in Tennessee circa 1849. ******************************** 1. Jesse1 Hodge , born abt 1783 in NC; died 1838 in Grainger County, TN, son of Ambrose???? or William Welcome??? Hodge . He married on 29 Jul 1806 in Grainger Co, Tn Anna Daniel , born abt 1787 in NC; died aft 1850 in Grainger Co., TN, daughter of Edward Daniel and (---) Anna . Children of Jesse Hodge and Anna Daniel were as follows: 2 William B. Hodge , born abt 1807 in Grainger Co, Tn. He married Mary G. Joyce . 3 Edward D. Hodge , born abt 1809 in Grainger Co., TN; died in Grainger Co., TN. He married (1) Phebe Mayes ; (2) Orlena McDaniel ; (3) Louisa McElhaney . DANIEL, Edward, Sr., Wife Anna, son Isaac, daughter, Jemima DANILE, son, William; named to receive equal part of $500.00 in order of age Ester MAYES, Elizabeth MAYES, Anna HODGE, John DANIEL, Joseph DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, Jr., Mary MAYES, Rebecca SUNDERLAND, Sally MAYES, and Jemima DANIEL... among all said and singular of legal heirs in my family of children there being 12 in number whose names are referred to in the course of this instrument. Signed Edward DANIEL, 6 Feb 1830. Witnesses: James KENNON, James LACY, James GREENLEE. Recorded 9 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk. (2nd entry) Account of Sale - mentions Isaac DANIEL, William DANIEL, Edward DANIEL, John DANIEL, Philip DANIEL among others, recorded 11 Nov 1833, P.S. COCKE, Clerk MAYES, Dudley, deceased. To Jane KIDWELL $5.00; Scytha Caroline McCARTY $5.00; Green Berry MAYES 100 acres land joining HOWELS, DANIELS & KIDWELLS & also interest in my fathers land yet undivided; to Anna BURNETT $5.00; Edward MAYES & William MAYES land where I now live; my two sons Edward & William; Green Berry MAYES, Executor. Signed Dudley MAYES, 2 Aug 1844. Attested: Isaac DANIEL, Goodwin MAYES. Recorded 10 Sep 1844, E. TATE, Clerk. MAYES, James, deceased (noncupative will). Made by him 17 Sep at night, 1842; my son Henry MAYES, Elika A. TAYLOR & Daniel C. CARMICHAEL to be my Executors; all my children; money borrowed from Ethelred WILLIAM for my son William; money owed by William to Daniel C. CARMICHAEL. Signed 10 Oct 1842 A. H. TARR & Hughs W. TAYLOR. Recorded 8 Nov 1842, E. TATE, Clerk. MAYS, Shurrad, deceased. Wife Elizabeth, 5 sons Thomas, William, Goodwin, Dudley and Jonathan MAYS; daughters each provided for by their grandfather Thomas SMITH of VA; Levi SATTERFIELD and Joseph DANIEL, Executors. Signed Shurrad MAYS, 11 Apr 1829. Witnesses: Elijah SIMS, Joshua KIDWELL. Recorded 5 Nov 1834, Thos S. COCKE. (2nd entry) Shurrad MAYS added additional statement to will to include the following "for by their grandfather Thos SMITH of VA as specified in his last will and testament which see". Settlement recorded 12 Oct 1837. Ken At 10:05 AM 03/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Dear researchers, > >I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group although I >believe that he is Edwatd's son. (I might also have written to various >researchers on this list that I have gotten really wary of "marrying off" >various members of the Mayes family solely on the basis of a marriage record >due to the Mayes tendency to give their children the same names.) However, >the oldest child listed in John and Mary's houshold in 1850 was Jesse L. >aged 5. There was also a James G. <grin> aged 3. There were Hodges living >close to the Edward Mayes family (BTW the name was spelled Hodges. There >were Hodge families and Hodges families in Grainger County and I am not sure >how or even IF they are all connected.) Anyway I DO think that John IS the >John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October 1843 >(approximately the right date). I don't think that the fact that John was >designated as John, Jr. on the marriage means much. Even at this time the >Grainger County records still use Jr. to designate older and younger people >of the same name rather than just father and son. FURTHERMORE Eli Greenlee >was bondsman for this marriage. > >However, I did want to include a word of caution re John's relationship to >Edward. Also I have been unable to find out what happened to Major Mayes. >OR to little William son of Edward's marriage to Sarah Roach although I do >agree with Shar that it would be interesting to find out. There was also >apparently another son, but so far I have found this son only listed on the >internet (no sources) and I want to check this out a little further. > >It would also be interesting to find out who was the father of Sarah ROACH >MAYES's two oldest children. Probably not Edward. OTOH it is interesting >to speculate as to why Edward remarried after being so long a widower. It >has been my experience that widowers either marry again very quickly or >never remarry at all. > >Gail > > > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Thanks Shar, This is certainly interesting. No, I didn't have this. The third listing is my William b 1806, but have him married to Nancy BROCKUS. I had the year, but not the date.Never have been able to find any info on Nancy. Does anyone know of this family in Grainger? This makes me think that they are all brothers, since there are several young males listed for William Rookard in the 1810 Brunswick, VA Census. The other is Robert, but haven't conclusively connected him. Don't know about Aubrose/Ambrose. I have been trying to figure out Henry's relationship for years. He and Dolly removed to MO and wasn't aware he was ever in Grainger. William and Nancy's g'son William b 1869 d 1905 in Campbell County, named his 2nd son Henry, who in turn named his son, my father Henry. Hmmm ... Thank you very much for this, Debra ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Rookard-Brockers : Debra, : for the Person that wants to be a Roach ; ^ ) : : this is all I could find on your surnames, and you probably already have this... : : Marriages for Grainger Co TN: : : ROOKARD, Aubrose-- to-- LAIM, Elizabeth 3-5-1826 : Henry L. -- to --LANE, Dolly 1-9-1828 : William----to---BROCKERS,Nancy 1-8-1829 : : SharR : : : ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] : :

Mention of the Hodges name makes me recall that I have been interested to learn who Nancy Jane Hodges was that lived with John Roach and wife, Sarah, at the time he wrote his will 31 Dec 1872. There's a Nancy J., aged 10 years, on the 1860 Grainger Co. Census in the household of Welcome and Isabella Hodge. Do we have any Hodge/Hodges researchers out there that can help with this question? Thanks, Betty B. From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] John Mayes/Mary Hodges Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:05:57 -0600 Dear researchers, I considered not even including John Mayes in this family group although I believe that he is Edwatd's son. John who married Mary Hodges. The marriage took place 28 October 1843 (approximately the right date). _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

1850-Cl.Co.TN 1114,James,Hill,33,m,,Farmer,,Tenn, 1114,Evira,Hill,23,f,,,,Tenn, 1114,Polly A.,Hill,3,f,,,,Tenn, 1114,John Tayler,Hill,2,m,,,,Tenn, 1860-Cl.Co.TN 1094,James,Hill,50,M,W,Farmer,200,121,Te,,,1,,, 1094,Elvira,Hill,35,F,W,,,,Va,,,1,,, 1094,Mary,Hill,14,F,W,,,,Te,,1,,,, 1094,Zachariah,Hill,11,M,W,,,,Te,,1,,,, 1094,Louisa,Hill,9,F,W,,,,Te,,1,,,, 1094,Agnes,Hill,7,F,W,,,,Te,,1,,,, 1094,Hetta,Hill,5,F,W,,,,Te,,,,,, 1094,William F.,Hill,2,M,W,,,,Te,,,,,, next door was- 1093,Moris,Tibble,47,M,W,Farmer,600,400,SC,,,,,, 1093,Harriet,Tibble,47,F,W,,,,Te,,,,,, 1093,Roxanna,Tibble,14,F,W,,,,Te,,,,,, 1093,Jeremiah,Tibble,1,M,W,,,,Te,,,,,, 1093,Eseneth,Hill,96,F,W,,,,NC,,,,,, 1870-Cl.Co.TN 09111094,Hill,James M,58,M,W,Farmer,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Elvira,43,F,W,Keeping house,Virginia, 09111094,Hill,Louiza,20,F,W,,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Agnes,18,F,W,,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Hetta,15,F,W,,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Finley,12,M,W,,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Margaret,10,F,W,,Tenn., 09111094,Hill,Melvina,4,F,W,,Tenn., next door was 09110093,Hill,Taylor,22,M,W,Farmer,Tenn., 09110093,Hill,Susan,18,F,W,Keeping house,Tenn., 09110093,Hill,John,2/12,M,W,,Tenn.,Born Mar. 1870 1880-Cl.Co.TN 108,225,233,9,Hill,Elvira,W,F,53,,W,Keeping house,VA,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Mary,W,F,34,Daughter,W,At home,TN,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Hariett,W,F,24,Daughter,S,At home,TN,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,William,W,M,22,Son,S,Laborer,TN,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Margaret,W,F,18,Daughter,S,At home,TN,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Melvina,W,F,14,Daughter,S,At home,TN,VA,VA, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Taylor,W,M,13,Grandson,S,Laborer,TN,NC,TN, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Samuel,W,M,2,Grandson,S,,TN,NC,TN, 108,225,233,9,Hill,Mary,W,F,4/12,Granddaughter,S,,TN,TN,TN,Born February This was on Leon's census website of Cl.Co.TN Just in case someone doesn't have the link-here it is http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnclaib2/ Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Elvira Dalton > I would like to know if anyone would have any > information on an Elvira Dalton who married a James M. > Hill. Elvira's birth/death dates are about/between the > years of 1825-1880. I believe that she could be from > Graninger County, Tennessee. > > Barbara > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

This was on the LDS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Elvira Dalton Compact Disc #24 Pin #589655 Sex: F ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Birth: abt 1825 Place: Tennessee Death: aft 1880 Place: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriage(s): Spouse: James M. Hill Disc #24 Pin #589654 Marriage: abt 1845 Place: Claiborne County, Tennessee ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Notes and Sources: Notes: None Sources: None ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submitter: Jack MONEY 4639 Elm Drive\t, West Branch, MI, 48661, United States of America ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submission Search: 3164-0126101232047 URL: http://www.geocities.com/jackamoney Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Elvira Dalton > I would like to know if anyone would have any > information on an Elvira Dalton who married a James M. > Hill. Elvira's birth/death dates are about/between the > years of 1825-1880. I believe that she could be from > Graninger County, Tennessee. > > Barbara > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Unfortunately,I do not have the 1850 Grainger census,but I am planning on getting it in the very near future. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Sarah ROACH _ MAYES > Tina , > In your Census records for Grainger does the index show Sarah Roach living > with any other family ? prob in 5th Dist ?....I just checked 1850 at > Ancestry.com...but didn't find, her although, I have searched before and > found them not on their indexs, but know they were on Census > Thanks > SharR > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >